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Submersible or Pedestal?

pconley

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So, we have power outages here a few times a year and I always worry about my finished basement flooding. I have a portable generator setup for mine. I have two backup pedestal sump pumps. One of them is rather old that I rebuilt. The other two are a few years old. But sometime when it rains hard for a few days my sump pump will run as fast as every three minutes to pump out the water under my house. They have about an 18" height of float movement. I have always seen the submersible pumps, but I was recently reading that the pedestal pumps last as much as twice as long as the submersible ones. I believe it is because of the shorter height of the float before it pumps each time on the submersible pumps. I was just wondering if anyone had any pros or cons to each of them. Mine is set up for the pedestal type and I think I would rather prefer them over the submersible ones. And opinions on either one?
 
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larry4406

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Can't help you much, but in our new homes we use submersible 1/2 HP units, piggy back float, and they can pass 1/2" solids.

You have a lot of groundwater!

Pipe your downspouts away a long distance and make sure your grade is proper.
 

zendriver

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I had a pedastel pump at the old house said if it ran a lot the motor got pretty hot and occasionally I’d have problems with the float sticking

Submersible seem to held up much longer at the newer house

Just my two cents
 

308guru

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They still make pedestal pumps? I thought those went the way of the dodo. Why would anyone use one?
 

Tuhls

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I have had both, I prefer the pedestal style.
I had one submersible fail, the case ‘rotted’, that doesn’t mean that all submersibles should be avoided, but personally I like the idea of all of the electric workings residing above water.
I have a second pedestal pump sitting there with the check valve and rubber coupler attached ready for service. When I experience a failure I am one worm gear clamp away from being pumping again. When the backup is put into service I purchase and outfit with a check valve my next backup pump.
Over the years I have upgraded from 1/3hp to 1/2hp, the difference is noticeable draining the tub.
I recently added an active backup pump, a Simer 2385 suspended in the tub controlled by a remote (mounted across the tub) vertical float switch. The Simer is plugged into an SEC America 1733 1800 watt inverter with pass-thru 120vac and inverted 12vdc supplied by two Mighty Max ML125-12 AGM batteries connected in parallel for a bank total of 250Ah. With this setup rather than connecting the main pump into the inverter system I am protected by both main pump failure and a power outage. Should the outage go on for days I have a 4hp generator converted to run on natural gas with receptacles in the basement to take over with powering the pump(s).
 

Snapped-off

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I have a pedestal installed since 2012. I'll probably end up replacing it with a submersible so I can put a proper lid on it.
 
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Caa311

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I've had both. One was a very expensive explosion prof one that the shaft rusted through at the impeller. I would get a cheap submersible if I were buying one..
 

HoosierMark

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If you’re worried about running a sump pump during a power outage and have city water check out a water powered sump pump. My friend says it saved him a couple of times due to power outage.
 

T444e

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I would, and have, put in a submersible over a pedestal. Easier to use a sealed cover and the water will help cool the motor. I have never put anything but submersibles in commercial applications.
 
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