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68-camaro

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Just ordered and received a set of Sunex 14pc metric angle head wrenches. I thought I would compare them to my Matco 11pc standard 3/8 - 1" angle head wrenches.
Matco 11pc set 3/8 - 1" 456.15 Matco truck list price.
Sunex 14pc 6mm - 19mm 34.78 Tool Topia on sale.
The Matco wrenches are used. The Sunex wrenches are new.
I'am comparing a 16mm to 5/8 wrench.
Both wrenches are about the same size, width and length.
The Matco has more of an rounded body.
Both have very nice chrome and polishing.
Now before you beat me up the Sunex wrenches are from China. And the Matco wrenches are US made. I ordered the Sunex's to suppliment my metric collection for my home tool box. I really did not want to spend alot of money. For the money these wrenches are excellent. We all decide how to spend our money and where to draw the line. As much as I would like to buy all US sometimes it,s just not practical.
 

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I have been wanting a set of AH wrenches but not all of us can spend big $ for wrenches we don't use every day. Thanks for the review. Have you used them yet? Do they work like they should?
 

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Excuse, me, but did you type that correctly?
11 wrenches, the largest being 1", and they cost $456
Holy ****! That's almost $41.50 per wrench!
What else do they do besides turn nuts and bolts?
 

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For $35 I'd give them a chance too if I needed them :thumbup:

They look fine to me.

Thanks for taking the time and making the effort to post the pics. I've seen a lot of ads for Sunex stuff and always wondered what fit and finish looked like

$456 a set for 11 wrenches... I'd say they were over priced. Maybe the Matcos are great wrenches, but there is a bunch of markup in there between manufacturing and in your hand.

Buy American, hell yes.

Buy American and pay markup for 15 people in the middle before it gets to me... no way.
 
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I have been looking hard at the Sunex wrenchs. Love them for there price. Heck, alot of there tools. I have read of atleast 2 people who use them everyday next to there snap-on wrenchs, and havnt had a single thing to complain about. look good to me!!!!! Now, of course we all want to buy US made, but sometimes we just cant always afford too buy US made. After all, I bet that 95% of the "things" people are typing on this here forum with, arent made in the US ;)
 

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Dude.. for spending 450 on a goofy specialty wrench set like that Id hope you have snap on stuff already pouring out of your ***.. Damn man If i was spending that much money for wrenches you could bet i wouldnt be on the matco truck.
 
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I've had these Matco wrenches for about fifteen years, can't remember exactly what I paid for them but list right now is 456.00. List price, which of course is the game the truck people play.
Let me defend myself a liitle bit here. Everybody works on different things.
Example#1. I'am at work , working on a 4 million dollar Letuorneau Loader, Because this loader is down there are five two million dollar coal trucks sitting there, can,t load coal. In this equipment is sitting 6 operators all making over 35.00 an hour. If the one wrench I need to do the job (Matco)at 40.00 gets it done, it paid for itself really fast.
Example#2. I'am at home working on my 8,000.00 dollar chevy pickup and I need a tool (Sunex) to help me do my job I probally don't need a 40.00 tool, a two dollar tool may work just fine. Thanks for the input, Love the site, Merry Christmas to everyone.
 
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Excuse, me, but did you type that correctly?
11 wrenches, the largest being 1", and they cost $456
Holy ****! That's almost $41.50 per wrench!
What else do they do besides turn nuts and bolts?

Man, I just paid $52 for a Caterpillar 15/16" combo (brand new from Cat) that I needed to fill in a set . It's a rebranded Williams Super Combo. To put that in perspective, the whole set of (11) Williams wrenches can be had new for about $150 on Ebay. The markup is ridiculous....luckily I got a deal on the rest of the set used.
 

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I've had these Matco wrenches for about fifteen years, can't remember exactly what I paid for them but list right now is 456.00. List price, which of course is the game the truck people play.
Let me defend myself a liitle bit here. Everybody works on different things.
Example#1. I'am at work , working on a 4 million dollar Letuorneau Loader, Because this loader is down there are five two million dollar coal trucks sitting there, can,t load coal. In this equipment is sitting 6 operators all making over 35.00 an hour. If the one wrench I need to do the job (Matco)at 40.00 gets it done, it paid for itself really fast.
Example#2. I'am at home working on my 8,000.00 dollar chevy pickup and I need a tool (Sunex) to help me do my job I probally don't need a 40.00 tool, a two dollar tool may work just fine. Thanks for the input, Love the site, Merry Christmas to everyone.

Thanks for the info, but you certainly don't have to defend yourself. Lot's of us are here for the learning. NOBODY here is all USA all the time, not a one. I have some Sunex tools, they're good.
 
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Now before you beat me up the Sunex wrenches are from China. . .

Not beating you up, but MY Sunex impact sockets say they were made in Taiwan. BIG DIFFERENCE! (oops, just noticed the "China" stamped on your wrench. I have heard people from Taiwan say they are the true China though.)

Merry Christmas everyone,
Steve
 
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Man, I just paid $52 for a Caterpillar 15/16" combo (brand new from Cat) that I needed to fill in a set . It's a rebranded Williams Super Combo. To put that in perspective, the whole set of (11) Williams wrenches can be had new for about $150 on Ebay. The markup is ridiculous....luckily I got a deal on the rest of the set used.

Cat tools are actually re branded from Snap On
 

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I recently picked up a set of sunex flare crowfoot wrenches and I was impressed with them. I really had to torque on one for a PS nut that was stuck on and they held up great. The finish is nice, too. For the price they were a great deal. Thanks for the comparison thread - I might have to put these on my wish list.
 

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The difference between the two is the way it fits the bolt head. The Matco version has the point to grip the fastener on 4 sides rather than just 2 and also the Matco is machined to more exact tolerances. If you are needing a wrench like this, it’s normally because it is in a VERY bad place with extremely limited access and it’s probably pretty damn tight as well. The way that wrench head fits that fastener and that 0.010”-0.015” tighter tolerance could very easily be the difference between a successfully completed job and a rounded off fastener.

If you’re a home user, this may not be the biggest issue. You cuss at it a bit, find another way to get it off that will probably mean cutting or damaging something else and it costs you a few more dollars.

If you’re a professional, that rounded off head can cost you HOURS and having to bill the customer for another part or having to eat the cost of something. Billing a customer for something else can cause the loss of a long-term customer as well as their family and friends as well as the $100+ an hour you lose while you’re fixing what just happened. Time is money and that customer has a mouth and fingers to tell everyone they know both good things and bad things about you. A rounded off head can end up costing you TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars in the long run from the time lost that you could have been getting paid to work on something else as well as all the business the word of mouth could have brought you.

When you look at this from the professional/business standpoint, that $422 extra you spend to PREVENT a time-loss and/or customer-loss event is WELL worth it when you look at how much something could cost. A professional working on flat-rate can easily lose his *** in the event of ONE fastener rounding off. Yes, crowfoot wrenches are nice and yes, there are flare-nut/line wrench crowfoot sets, but sometimes those aren’t practical to use. If you’re having to put them on a ratchet to get the angle right, you’re in a super tight spot, and the stupid ratchet keeps spinning while you’re trying to get the crowfoot on the fastener, it can cause a LOT of frustration and consume time that isn’t necessary. A breaker bar may not work either because you can only attach the crowfoot in 90° increments but you need 30° or 60°. Sometimes you just need something fixed that will not cause you more problems than it does good. I’ve sat there on an airplane before trying to turn a B-nut on a hydraulic line and I had to use an angle wrench as well as a standard combination wrench with the 15° angle open end, switching sides of the angle wrench and to the standard wrench, flipping that wrench, and turning that stupid nut 7.5°-15° at a time for 10 rotations while my supervisor was breathing down my neck because the flight was already delayed 45 minutes when the plane got to the hangar and little Johnny wants to see his grandma. Do you think I had time to fumble with a bunch of bullsh!t under that kind of pressure?!? No, I didn’t. My company was losing $5,000 a MINUTE that we didn’t have the airplane at the gate because we were a contracted regional carrier and we got fined that much when we had delays. And then what if I was using a cheap wrench that had 0.010”-0.015” more tolerance between the nut and the wrench plus only turning on 2 sides, that nut got rounded off, and we didn’t have a replacement line in stock so if it got damaged, we had to do an AOG (Aircraft On Ground) rush from BRAZIL?? It would have resulted in a cancellation which would have cost the company $250,000 in fines plus having to reroute or refund passengers. And that is just for that ONE flight. What about all of the subsequent flights that plane was supposed to make until that part arrives, is installed, and is finally signed off as airworthy? That $422 prevented MILLIONS of dollars from being lost and probably me losing my job. Then you have the whole tool truck advantage, at least with my dealer. What if my tool breaks in the middle of a job and I can’t just go drive to Sears while I’m on the clock? My Matco guy will RUSH to me and replace my tool in about 15 minutes while I work on a different part of the job.

Again, the home user cannot see these benefits or disadvantages but the professional and/or business owner can certainly see them. So, don’t knock on the guys that do spend big money on tools; a lot of times there is an EXPONENTIALLY higher dollar amount at stake. Now, if you’re trying to change your steering gearbox on your 1998 Chevy K1500 and you need an angle wrench to get one of the power steering lines off in your driveway, fine, go buy the cheap ones because the most they will cost you is having to cut the line so you can get a deep socket on it and you’ll have to buy a new line for $85 or make a new one yourself for $25. You’re still into it less than 1/4 the price of the Matco set. Hopefully my detailed explanation didn’t bore everyone!

@jgromada: I added some breaks to make it easier to read. Sorry, I get a little carried away sometimes!
 
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I have some Sunex stuff, particularly some crows foot flare nut wrench set and they are fine for my needs. I'm just a backyard mechanic so $456 is a non-starter. Yes i would love me some USA made stuff but its just not possible when there is such a premium. I do have a bunch of SK/Proto/Williams but most of those sockets & hand tools are older used stuff.

jwtservicellc: I tried reading your post but it was impossible to read even on a laptop. Put some line breaks in there! There was some good points in there, but just frustrating to try and read.
 

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The difference between the two is the way it fits the bolt head. The Matco version has the point to grip the fastener on 4 sides rather than just 2 and also the Matco is machined to more exact tolerances. If you are needing a wrench like this, it’s normally because it is in a VERY bad place with extremely limited access and it’s probably pretty damn tight as well. The way that wrench head fits that fastener and that 0.010”-0.015” tighter tolerance could very easily be the difference between a successfully completed job and a rounded off fastener.

If you’re a home user, this may not be the biggest issue. You cuss at it a bit, find another way to get it off that will probably mean cutting or damaging something else and it costs you a few more dollars.

If you’re a professional, that rounded off head can cost you HOURS and having to bill the customer for another part or having to eat the cost of something. Billing a customer for something else can cause the loss of a long-term customer as well as their family and friends as well as the $100+ an hour you lose while you’re fixing what just happened. Time is money and that customer has a mouth and fingers to tell everyone they know both good things and bad things about you. A rounded off head can end up costing you TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars in the long run from the time lost that you could have been getting paid to work on something else as well as all the business the word of mouth could have brought you.

When you look at this from the professional/business standpoint, that $422 extra you spend to PREVENT a time-loss and/or customer-loss event is WELL worth it when you look at how much something could cost. A professional working on flat-rate can easily lose his *** in the event of ONE fastener rounding off. Yes, crowfoot wrenches are nice and yes, there are flare-nut/line wrench crowfoot sets, but sometimes those aren’t practical to use. If you’re having to put them on a ratchet to get the angle right, you’re in a super tight spot, and the stupid ratchet keeps spinning while you’re trying to get the crowfoot on the fastener, it can cause a LOT of frustration and consume time that isn’t necessary. A breaker bar may not work either because you can only attach the crowfoot in 90° increments but you need 30° or 60°. Sometimes you just need something fixed that will not cause you more problems than it does good. I’ve sat there on an airplane before trying to turn a B-nut on a hydraulic line and I had to use an angle wrench as well as a standard combination wrench with the 15° angle open end, switching sides of the angle wrench and to the standard wrench, flipping that wrench, and turning that stupid nut 7.5°-15° at a time for 10 rotations while my supervisor was breathing down my neck because the flight was already delayed 45 minutes when the plane got to the hangar and little Johnny wants to see his grandma. Do you think I had time to fumble with a bunch of bullsh!t under that kind of pressure?!? No, I didn’t. My company was losing $5,000 a MINUTE that we didn’t have the airplane at the gate because we were a contracted regional carrier and we got fined that much when we had delays. And then what if I was using a cheap wrench that had 0.010”-0.015” more tolerance between the nut and the wrench plus only turning on 2 sides, that nut got rounded off, and we didn’t have a replacement line in stock so if it got damaged, we had to do an AOG (Aircraft On Ground) rush from BRAZIL?? It would have resulted in a cancellation which would have cost the company $250,000 in fines plus having to reroute or refund passengers. And that is just for that ONE flight. What about all of the subsequent flights that plane was supposed to make until that part arrives, is installed, and is finally signed off as airworthy? That $422 prevented MILLIONS of dollars from being lost and probably me losing my job. Then you have the whole tool truck advantage, at least with my dealer. What if my tool breaks in the middle of a job and I can’t just go drive to Sears while I’m on the clock? My Matco guy will RUSH to me and replace my tool in about 15 minutes while I work on a different part of the job.

Again, the home user cannot see these benefits or disadvantages but the professional and/or business owner can certainly see them. So, don’t knock on the guys that do spend big money on tools; a lot of times there is an EXPONENTIALLY higher dollar amount at stake. Now, if you’re trying to change your steering gearbox on your 1998 Chevy K1500 and you need an angle wrench to get one of the power steering lines off in your driveway, fine, go buy the cheap ones because the most they will cost you is having to cut the line so you can get a deep socket on it and you’ll have to buy a new line for $85 or make a new one yourself for $25. You’re still into it less than 1/4 the price of the Matco set. Hopefully my detailed explanation didn’t bore everyone!

@jgromada: I added some breaks to make it easier to read. Sorry, I get a little carried away sometimes!
I will agree with you to a degree but there is a flip side you've not mentioned. When I began sending TOPTUL wrenches, which have very tight specs with respect to fitment, to Eric O. in the great salt-belt state of New York one of his complaints was that the tolerances were too tight and at times these wrenches would not fit onto the swollen rust infested nuts and bolts he deals with on a daily basis. You'd probably love them on an airplane as these are thankfully meticulously maintained but on rusty cars tight tolerances aren't always the best solution.
 

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Those Matco's sure have a Bonney-made look to them. :drool:

But heck the Sunex's works then go for it.
 

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The Sunex & matco/Bonney look nice, but are inferior to the 30°/60° Snap On angle wrench with regards to angle and wrench bite in tight areas.

Here is a nice video showing what I mean:
 

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The difference between the two is the way it fits the bolt head. The Matco version has the point to grip the fastener on 4 sides rather than just 2 and also the Matco is machined to more exact tolerances. If you are needing a wrench like this, it’s normally because it is in a VERY bad place with extremely limited access and it’s probably pretty damn tight as well. The way that wrench head fits that fastener and that 0.010”-0.015” tighter tolerance could very easily be the difference between a successfully completed job and a rounded off fastener.

If you’re a home user, this may not be the biggest issue. You cuss at it a bit, find another way to get it off that will probably mean cutting or damaging something else and it costs you a few more dollars.

If you’re a professional, that rounded off head can cost you HOURS and having to bill the customer for another part or having to eat the cost of something. Billing a customer for something else can cause the loss of a long-term customer as well as their family and friends as well as the $100+ an hour you lose while you’re fixing what just happened. Time is money and that customer has a mouth and fingers to tell everyone they know both good things and bad things about you. A rounded off head can end up costing you TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars in the long run from the time lost that you could have been getting paid to work on something else as well as all the business the word of mouth could have brought you.

When you look at this from the professional/business standpoint, that $422 extra you spend to PREVENT a time-loss and/or customer-loss event is WELL worth it when you look at how much something could cost. A professional working on flat-rate can easily lose his *** in the event of ONE fastener rounding off. Yes, crowfoot wrenches are nice and yes, there are flare-nut/line wrench crowfoot sets, but sometimes those aren’t practical to use. If you’re having to put them on a ratchet to get the angle right, you’re in a super tight spot, and the stupid ratchet keeps spinning while you’re trying to get the crowfoot on the fastener, it can cause a LOT of frustration and consume time that isn’t necessary. A breaker bar may not work either because you can only attach the crowfoot in 90° increments but you need 30° or 60°. Sometimes you just need something fixed that will not cause you more problems than it does good. I’ve sat there on an airplane before trying to turn a B-nut on a hydraulic line and I had to use an angle wrench as well as a standard combination wrench with the 15° angle open end, switching sides of the angle wrench and to the standard wrench, flipping that wrench, and turning that stupid nut 7.5°-15° at a time for 10 rotations while my supervisor was breathing down my neck because the flight was already delayed 45 minutes when the plane got to the hangar and little Johnny wants to see his grandma. Do you think I had time to fumble with a bunch of bullsh!t under that kind of pressure?!? No, I didn’t. My company was losing $5,000 a MINUTE that we didn’t have the airplane at the gate because we were a contracted regional carrier and we got fined that much when we had delays. And then what if I was using a cheap wrench that had 0.010”-0.015” more tolerance between the nut and the wrench plus only turning on 2 sides, that nut got rounded off, and we didn’t have a replacement line in stock so if it got damaged, we had to do an AOG (Aircraft On Ground) rush from BRAZIL?? It would have resulted in a cancellation which would have cost the company $250,000 in fines plus having to reroute or refund passengers. And that is just for that ONE flight. What about all of the subsequent flights that plane was supposed to make until that part arrives, is installed, and is finally signed off as airworthy? That $422 prevented MILLIONS of dollars from being lost and probably me losing my job. Then you have the whole tool truck advantage, at least with my dealer. What if my tool breaks in the middle of a job and I can’t just go drive to Sears while I’m on the clock? My Matco guy will RUSH to me and replace my tool in about 15 minutes while I work on a different part of the job.

Again, the home user cannot see these benefits or disadvantages but the professional and/or business owner can certainly see them. So, don’t knock on the guys that do spend big money on tools; a lot of times there is an EXPONENTIALLY higher dollar amount at stake. Now, if you’re trying to change your steering gearbox on your 1998 Chevy K1500 and you need an angle wrench to get one of the power steering lines off in your driveway, fine, go buy the cheap ones because the most they will cost you is having to cut the line so you can get a deep socket on it and you’ll have to buy a new line for $85 or make a new one yourself for $25. You’re still into it less than 1/4 the price of the Matco set. Hopefully my detailed explanation didn’t bore everyone!

@jgromada: I added some breaks to make it easier to read. Sorry, I get a little carried away sometimes!
My, you have a vivid imagination.
 

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I have Snap On angles wrenches in the shop. But I also have a few NOS SK angle wrenches. Some Martin’s as well. Then one metric Tekton. They all work just fine.

My service truck I have Sunex angle wrenches. They’re fine too. I actually bought them from my Matco guy. He sells a lot of Sunex and Martin angle wrenches just cuz the Matco cost so much.
 
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