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DSLTRK

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Hydraulic fittings are expensive. Brake line nuts are a b**** to change if damaged. I imagine you value your hands as well.

IDK why anyone would take a chance on junk imported flare line wrenches.

SK makes a good line wrench. For 77 bucks, they are worth it imo.
 

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Watch the video as you'll see that Snap-on gets to the final size using a cold broach method with a very strong hydraulic ram and lots of cold, water based cutting fluid.
You say that like it's some super-secret patented process that Snap-On. That's literally the standard way things have been broached for 150 years.

Oh look. Here's a video of "cold broaching with cold, water based cutting fluid"
...in India.
 

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You say that like it's some super-secret patented process that Snap-On. That's literally the standard way things have been broached for 150 years.

Oh look. Here's a video of "cold broaching with cold, water based cutting fluid"
...in India.

That video makes me even more proud of my Snap-on tools than I already was.
 
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I showed my wife the India junk, she laughed at just how bad they are. She noticed that on the 19x21mm you can see a shadow in the cloudy chrome of where they buffed off someone else's text that said "Chrome Vandium" and laser etched their part number over it. The handles are somewhat flattened from removing the previous logo, very obvious in the hand. Check out the pics of the text.

I'm buying something better.

SK - Highly recommended, my current first choice. The 3 piece SAE and 3 piece metric are about $115, 11 piece set is $180.
Williams - they only have a US made set in SAE for $85, their metric are made in Taiwan and cost $50, the Taiwan SAE is $30.
Proto - 3 piece SAE and 5 piece metric sets for about $130, US made.
Wright - 3 piece SAE and 5 piece metric sets for about $200, US made.
Snap On - from ebay, looks like $200 or so for SAE and metric.

What else should I be looking at?
 

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I went Proto/Blackhawk as they are a reasonably priced "industrial" brand (where line wrenches are commonly used). Satin are Proto and polished are Blackhawk.
 

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SK - Highly recommended, my current first choice. The 3 piece SAE and 3 piece metric are about $115, 11 piece set is $180.
Williams - they only have a US made set in SAE for $85, their metric are made in Taiwan and cost $50, the Taiwan SAE is $30.
Proto - 3 piece SAE and 5 piece metric sets for about $130, US made.
Wright - 3 piece SAE and 5 piece metric sets for about $200, US made.
Snap On - from ebay, looks like $200 or so for SAE and metric.

What else should I be looking at?

I'm looking at the Wrights myself, been looking at them for awhile but not much info on them. This thread almost made me pull the trigger but I really only need the 11mm
 
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I went Proto/Blackhawk as they are a reasonably priced "industrial" brand (where line wrenches are commonly used). Satin are Proto and polished are Blackhawk.

The Blackhawk look like they would have a better grip on the fastener since the slot in the head is narrower. I found the Blackhawk 8 piece set for $116 plus tax. Looks like it skips 11mm and 16mm, Proto sells a 9x11mm wrench for $13.

I did find the Proto sets on eBay for $70 shipped, SAE is used, Metric is an old stock that has one Proto marked wrench and the rest Easco marked.
 
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G-Ram

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Buys cheap wrenches, then complains that the quality is on par with the price paid. Makes sense....


can't work fast, can't work slow, can only work as fast as the wrench will go. how much time have you got??
 

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I bought used SNAP ON Metric 6 piece set for $130.00 3 weeks ago.
Paid $51.99 for a SNAP ON 5 piece SAE set 4 weeks ago.
Both were on EBAY and are MINT used condition.
 

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I've seen complete metric sets go for $100 brand new. You've got to be patient and wait it out though.

Check out this Blackhawk. It's frickin' ****.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Blackhawk-...105188?hash=item56c825c224:g:fnkAAOSwCxxdn8S5
 
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The Blackhawk look like they would have a better grip on the fastener since the slot in the head is narrower. I found the Blackhawk 8 piece set for $116 plus tax. Looks like it skips 11mm and 16mm, Proto sells a 9x11mm wrench for $13.

I did find the Proto sets on eBay for $70 shipped, SAE is used, Metric is an old stock that has one Proto marked wrench and the rest Easco marked.

As bad as the India wrenches look, they should work just fine for light useage. My watch hobby taught me this: skip the mid grade stuff, either go cheap for fun, or go highend for workmanship and value. If you can't find acceptable wrenches at lower cost, just get Snap On.
 

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I recently purchased a metric and sae set of GearWrench. Think they're made in CN (I think) and for approximately the same price as what you paid. I really like them and I'm picky. They're quality wrenches and the finish on them is impressive. Maybe check 'em out.
 
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As bad as the India wrenches look, they should work just fine for light useage. My watch hobby taught me this: skip the mid grade stuff, either go cheap for fun, or go highend for workmanship and value. If you can't find acceptable wrenches at lower cost, just get Snap On.

I have the same thought - the "good enough" seems to be a minefield, which is a shame
 

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Tekton doesn’t have any flare nut wrench sets on their site, I looked before ordering the Sunex junk.

They had them though I had two sets on my flea mkt tool table one SAE and one Metric. My brother took the metric and I believe still have the SAE boxed up in my tool inventory.

Nobody really wanted them generally looked good very nice chrome, IIRC had the same broaching marks as the OP picture, Taiwan COO I'm pretty sure.

The caveat they were very thick.

I' would take a picture just to show them but everything is stored down in a barn at my work

Myself I do have 2 SAE sets of USA Craftsman never needed metric years ago for anything much I did.

I suppose could use the metric line wrenches today though I have other tools that probably more than likely get the job done good enough for me. My tractor loaders hydraulic lines may very well be metric as it was made in Canada IIRC. Hard to really say as both 3/4(19mm) and 13/16"(21mm) will fit.
 

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I've only ever needed a couple sizes of flares for what I worked on so I just got a few of SO and SK as needed.

I also have a lone park tool 8/10mm wrench that is US made and I really like it
 
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Steve_P

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Watch the video as you'll see that Snap-on gets to the final size using a cold broach method with a very strong hydraulic ram and lots of cold, water based cutting fluid.

IIRC, you initially said it was forged to size. Again, broaching is the standard method for finishing a wrench, and also many automotive components with internal splines; this is not some special process unique to Snap On- essentially everyone uses it.
 
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I ordered the Blackhawk complete set of line wrenches from Toolup today, they had a 10% off hand tools coupon that made it $30 cheaper than Amazon. Not Snap On, but USA made for half the price.
 

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As I posted above. Did exactly the same thing only a few weeks ago. Deals are out there, take advantage and buy the best you can afford. I wanted SNAP ON, I found them and bought them.


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I went through the same ordeal of using cheaper flare nut wrenches and finally became frustrated enough that I just set some alerts on eBay. I got the full set of the RXFSM set for $60, deals are out there just gotta keep your eye out or even buy the ones you need like 10/12 or 9/11.




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