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Rogers954

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Hey fellas got a suggestion in another thread from a member saying that he used super lube’s oil in his ratchets and that it made a big difference in how smooth it was, reason he responded was i just put a DT 80 kit in my old SK 45170 and it feels a whole lot better than the old drive but it was still kind of Clanky and i thought it would be a lot smoother. I know everyone uses the grease as do I, but i wasn’t aware that they made an oil as well as i have never seen it anywhere, anyone else using the oil and if so what are you using it on, and is it any good? Thanks


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Bacon!

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Don't see any benefit, is not a tight tolerance, nor high heat, or high RPM application. I'll speculate that the difference was just the lower viscosity and after greasing (or mixed in with your grease) you could put a couple drops of oil to achieve a similar effect, or just choose a lower NLGI # grease than the #2 most prevalent for other consumer applications.

Then again if the smoothness is not from the mechanism itself but instead the grease, did you really gain anything or just make the mechanism more likely to slip when it shouldn't?

Lower the viscosity too much and it's going to run out and make a mess and loss of lube, eventually. No I would not use ONLY an oil for that reason and as above, it's not tight tolerance, high RPM.
 

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Could have been me but the reason I mentioned oil in addition to grease is that the spring is inside for me it makes the pawls a little loser. I grease the ratchet head lightly and then oil the pawls insides.

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I recently picked up some Super Lube (grease) from HF, with the intent of lubricating some ratchets I have in an attempt to make them as smooth as possible.

Dumb question, but is there a right/wrong way to pack a ratchet head with grease?
 

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Less is more generally speaking pear heads get grease round heads get oil. Super lube is pretty thin for grease though. Here they sell super lube in oil, oil spray can , and grease all pretty cheap. The oil is good but a bit thin
Marvel mystery oil is also good. As well as ams oil 2 stroke 100:1 oil seems thick enough but not grease like thick. It really isn't all that important. But too much grease can cause skipping sometimes.

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I recently picked up some Super Lube (grease) from HF, with the intent of lubricating some ratchets I have in an attempt to make them as smooth as possible.

Dumb question, but is there a right/wrong way to pack a ratchet head with grease?

I wouldn't pack the lube in per se. A little goes a long ways and even then it will ooze out as the oil separates and leak into your drawer. Just a little bit to keep things lubricated is all that is needed. To be honest a thorough cleaning before lubing is more important than what lube you actually use.
 

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I wouldn't pack the lube in per se. A little goes a long ways and even then it will ooze out as the oil separates and leak into your drawer. Just a little bit to keep things lubricated is all that is needed. To be honest a thorough cleaning before lubing is more important than what lube you actually use.

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That being said, I bought a used Snap-on dual 80 that skipped. The price reflected it, but at home when I took it apart it was literally crammed full of some really nasty looking grease. I cleaned it and lubed it, worked perfect.

I normally oil round head ratchets with whatever motor oil I have on hand, either Shell Rotella or Mobil1 0w-20 full syn.
I just cleaned an old Fairmount (Wright) 3/8 single pawl, I'm going to try a Super Lube experiment in it. I put a small amount in there, initial thoughts: it quiets the ratchet down noticeably, feels very smooth.
 

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I've been using Super Lube grease on all 30 of my ratchets with great success. Also, SK usually ships a small packet of Super Lube along with their replacement parts and the DT100 kits.
 
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Rogers954

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I've been using Super Lube grease on all 30 of my ratchets with great success. Also, SK usually ships a small packet of Super Lube along with their replacement parts and the DT100 kits.

Yep that's what came with my DT80 kit and I applied it per the instructions and didn't go over board at all, I totally understand that in a ratchet as well as in a fishing reel less is more. I was just surprised as how clunky the drive was after install, maybe I had my hopes set to high and didn't know what to expect this is after all my first sk ratchet.
 

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I'm more of a fan of Superlube oil as a degreaser, then Tri-Flow or another PTFE based oil to finish. This was through years of using SuperLube on bicycle chain, but it not lasting like TriFlow or other "wet" oils.
 

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In a regular SK ratchet I like to use Lucas Assembly Oil and in my DT kits I use Super Lube. Once the DT is broken in, it is as smooth as the regular mechanisms.
 

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I use red lithium and 3 or 4 drops of atf .
Worked good in everything from usa german japanese to taiwan ...
 

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Hey fellas got a suggestion in another thread from a member saying that he used super lube’s oil in his ratchets and that it made a big difference in how smooth it was, reason he responded was i just put a DT 80 kit in my old SK 45170 and it feels a whole lot better than the old drive but it was still kind of Clanky and i thought it would be a lot smoother. I know everyone uses the grease as do I, but i wasn’t aware that they made an oil as well as i have never seen it anywhere, anyone else using the oil and if so what are you using it on, and is it any good? Thanks


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Superlube is one of the new wonders of the world. I cram as much as I can pack in all my ratchets. They operate like silk.
 

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I use oil (40 tooth and above) or a low-tackiness grease (less than 40 teeth).

Though I am leaning towards just soaking all of my ratchets' heads in Supco 88 for 24 hours, then let drip till they stop and put 'em to work. Repeat twice a year or if things get dirty. The active ingredients in the Supco penetrate small pores in metal surfaces and help reduce wear, and contains anti-oxidant and anti-sludge properties. Works as a great extreme pressure lube in machines - should work well in ratchets. Get it at appliance or AC supply houses.
 

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I use a thin brushing of Super lube grease in any ratchet except for the thin profile type (Matco/Gearwrench/Armstrong), those get air tool oil typically since it's convenient. Might be worth trying the Super lube oil in those. I prefer not to use oil in round heads mainly as it leaks out and annoys me.
 

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If you can't find superlube oil locally, you can buy it on ebay, probably Amazon also. I bought a quart bottle on ebay a few years ago as it does not exist at anyplace local to me.
 
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Ratchet heads should be treated like the moving parts of a gun. Too much lube is a bad thing. A couple drops of oil is all that’s needed. Packing with grease can actually cause the pawl to skip as the oil separates from the soap and your left with goo.
 

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Best part of SuperLube is it's non-toxic and very safe. The safety sheets are all like "Our legal team recommends to rinse after contact to skin or eyes, but no irritation has ever been recorded. Food safe."

If your read something like 3-in-1, it says "Wear eye and skin protection, if you get any on your skin, wash vigorously, if you ingest or get in your eyes, continue to rinse eyes while someone immediately contacts a poison center"

Many oils are known to absorb through you skin, increase the risk of cancer, and is bad for you liver and kidneys. SuperLube is none of that.
 
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Bacon!

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Best part of SuperLube is it's non-toxic and very safe. The safety sheets are all like "Our legal team recommends to rinse after contact to skin or eyes, but no irritation has ever been recorded. Food safe."

If your read something like 3-in-1, it says "Wear eye and skin protection, if you get any on your skin, wash vigorously, if you ingest or get in your eyes, continue to rinse eyes while someone immediately contacts a poison center"

Many oils are known to absorb through you skin, increase the risk of cancer, and is bad for you liver and kidneys. SuperLube is none of that.

Not much of an issue on the small scale contact you'd have in these scenarios. I've never had any reaction to them, nor had any serious eye irritation.

On the other hand, their "legal team" is full of it. Look at the MSDS for their products. The very first one I looked at, states right on it quote "May cause slight irritation in contact with skin and eyes."

http://www.americangranby.com/msds/SLGrease.pdf

Most relevant is used motor oil getting all over you (combustion byproduct toxins), or some propellants or especially solvents, not a dab of grease that you wash off your hands. Exposure level means a lot, you wouldn't want to take a bath in it all day, every day at work.
 
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