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I am not in favour of these chinese chainsaws. I have not used them and never tried to use them. But, yes if you don't need chainsaw quite often, instead of moving towards chinese, you can buy cheap chainsaws of well-known brands like oregon, remington. You will find chainsaws under 100 which will be very much useful for milling, cutting and pruning small tree branches.
 
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I am not in favour of these chinese chainsaws. I have not used them and never tried to use them. But, yes if you don't need chainsaw quite often, instead of moving towards chinese, you can buy cheap chainsaws of well-known brands like oregon, remington. You will find chainsaws under 100 which will be very much useful for milling, cutting and pruning small tree branches.
Most of them are manufactured in China. Or else the parts are made there, and they're assembled here, or in Mexico or Taiwan. So you're getting much the same thing, only you are being somewhat lied to about where it came from.

In fact, a lot of the parts will interchange. I get the whole "hate China" thing. But with today's global manufacturing market, along with false branding of American names like Westinghouse, McCulloch, and Bell & Howell, you're not going to find much made here, unless you want to go into the hundreds of dollars for a name brand like Stihl, Husqvarna, or Echo.

I didn't need or require that. My Chinese saw does what is required of it.... At a far lower price. Just look under the hood of your new "American" car. And try to find something that was both made and assembled in Detroit. Not gonna happen anymore.
 

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I was tempted to get one too recently when I needed a bit bigger saw, but the issue is parts and even chains.

Totally agree on the Poulan 5020 and even the 4218. Both have been in production for over a decade and parts are easy to find, they even have aftermarket replacement parts. Husqvarna has an outlet store on ebay and you get a three year warranty on their refurbished Poulan saws, the 5020 goes for under $200. I got a refurb 4218 for $52 pre COVID and it was a brand new saw.
 
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For digging out tree roots, buy a digging bar.
It’s basically a long steel rod, with a chisel tip on one end, and another end that may have a point, or a tamper.
Basically, you lift the bar up, and spear the chisel end of the bar into the ground, using the weight of the steel bar.
You can also use the bar as a giant pry bar once you’ve cut around the roots.
Admittedly, cutting around the roots with a chainsaw would be quicker, but more deleterious to the chainsaw, and somewhat more dangerous.
Home Depot gas a “San Angelo” model for $40.
 

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Probably not the fastest, but my compromise is to just chew out the middle of the stump with the chainsaw, essentially turn it into a planter and fill with dirt. Granted it doesn't disappear overnight but it also doesn't involve having to dump a stump and find the dirt to fill its spot.
 

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Not sure if your in a rural area or not, if so can also drill holes in stump soak with kerosene and burn it out.

Here is a review on a Stihl clone I am considering.

Another knock off saw with a bad review

I probably will end up getting a Husqavarna 460 myself
 

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I probably will end up getting a Husqavarna 460 myself

Check out the Echo 590 or its big brother the 620. Echo runs 20% off sales in the spring or you might be able to find a retailer that will discount. I ordered a Husky 460 but CPO outlets cancelled my order, so instead I got the Echo 620 for $500. To me it wasn't worth saving $100 to get a clone and playing the QC lotto, plus Echo has a 5 year warranty.
 

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FWIW, problems with gas-powered equipment seems to be directly correlated to humidity. The 10% ethanol absorbs water from the air and east of the Rockies gets progressively worse.
Maybe that's it. But I can't control the humidity. I can control the ethanol. Before I could get E0 gas, I ran 100LL and re-tuned for it.
What I can say is that I haven't ever replaced a fuel line or primer bulb since I dropped ethanol gas. That alone is worth it to me.

Only thing better (for "consumer" use)? Electric. Works or it doesn't.
 

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I usually dig down around them and cut the roots and pull the stump. A little extra work but now can replace another tree there.
One house I rented had a 3' tall, 18" diameter stump sitting in a bad place and in the way. I dug it up used my sawzall to cut the roots and worked at it til it was out. Maybe 45 min total. Then I dug another hole near the patio and buried it there and used it as a outdoor table base.

My current house has a large stump in the front yard I want to remove and replace with a new tree.


I also bought a small electric saw from a estate sale. Keep the chain sharp & oiled and works great. :)
^^this

Palms have no taproot, so a 4' stump might give plenty of leverage to just snap everything right out.
 

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Check out the Echo 590 or its big brother the 620. Echo runs 20% off sales in the spring or you might be able to find a retailer that will discount. I ordered a Husky 460 but CPO outlets cancelled my order, so instead I got the Echo 620 for $500. To me it wasn't worth saving $100 to get a clone and playing the QC lotto, plus Echo has a 5 year warranty.
ordered a 620 Echo last night My Ryobi has done ok but it failed me when I needed it due to plastic parts in rewind. the 620 looked good after watching some reviews.
 

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ordered a 620 Echo last night My Ryobi has done ok but it failed me when I needed it due to plastic parts in rewind. the 620 looked good after watching some reviews.
Cool, I hope you like it as much as I do. It’s a gentle beast. Usually fires up on the first or second pull and just chugs away. It took about 4 tanks for mine to really wake up but I was super gentle on breakin.
 

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Speaking about 'getting rid of roots,' we hired a service to trim a 30'+ pongam tree and to remove roots which had crossed under a sidewalk, into the frontyard, and also ruined a driveway apron, the land between the driveway/sidewalk, and the street (in the swale). It was raised 3" in places. We had the swale concrete removed, and the roots removed by one crew, and they replaced the swale concrete w/a new pour. The arborist crew who came next trimmed the pongam tree, and that allowed much-more light into the front windows and the door (a single-pane impact glass door). It will also allow sun to reach the yard to promote grass growth. We had a sprinkler system installed, w/a timer, it's fed by a well. The yard was sodded after the sprinkler system.

The machine for cutting roots (Carlton) was very neat, it's made in NC, I think the owner said, the operator can ride it, or he can operate it via wireless remote control (he's holding it). It made short work of the roots anywhere in the yard, and it went down about 1 ft.

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Like others, I use a recip saw for roots. I have a 120V Porter-Cable Tiger saw, and a couple of Craftsman C3 19.2V cordless. I use a long pruning blade.

Like member neophyte, I use a breaker bar, I call it, steel w/a wide chisel profile on one end and a maybe 3 to 4" disc of thickness on the opposite end. I bought it new many years ago, I can't recall where. It's a good tool. Nearly as tall as me, a bit < 6'.
 
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I am not in favour of these chinese chainsaws. I have not used them and never tried to use them. But, yes if you don't need chainsaw quite often, instead of moving towards chinese, you can buy cheap chainsaws of well-known brands like oregon, remington. You will find chainsaws under 100 which will be very much useful for milling, cutting and pruning small tree branches.
Those aren’t well known chainsaw brands now.
 

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Palms have no taproot, so a 4' stump might give plenty of leverage to just snap everything right out.
Because of our soil here, this is how we do it also on all tree types. Leave 4' of truck, bump with big *** skid/steer / loader. Pops most of 'em right out.
 

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ordered a 620 Echo last night My Ryobi has done ok but it failed me when I needed it due to plastic parts in rewind. the 620 looked good after watching some reviews.
I just looked, apparently this saw comes tuned pretty well and does not have a cataylist.
 

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You're not going to get a lot of love for a import off-brand chainsaw on a tool enthusiast forum, but I get it. It's cheap and does what it's supposed to. I used a Poulan Pro-branded Chinese-made saw for ten years before it blew up. It started reliably, had enough power and worked well until the one day it didn't.

I wasn't cutting a lot, mind you, but I used it somewhat regularly to fuel the woodstove in my shop or out on camping trips.

When I went shopping for a replacement, the internet was full of advice basically amounting to Stihl or Husqvarna are the only brands worth having (unless you want to spend even MORE).

I know parts aren't so readily available for random-branded saws, carb adjustments might be locked and the materials could be inferior, but if you get a decade of moderate use out of a lower-quality saw that costs 1/5th as much, there's a value proposition there.

I ended up buying a Dewalt Flexvolt saw, but mostly because I got a great deal and had other uses for the Flexvolt battery power. I can see a "cheap saw" being a reasonable purchase for certain users.
 

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I have a couple of Poulan saws in my junk pile. Neither one has more tha five hours on them before they gave up. After that I went to Stihl. But if I were looking for a new one today, I would go with Farmertek. They are Stihl clones and so close that you can use Farmertek parts to repair Stihl saws. Or vice versa. Project Farm did a comparison of a number of popular brands. Farmertek was not included, but Stihl was a very clear winner.
 

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I have a couple of Poulan saws in my junk pile. Neither one has more tha five hours on them before they gave up. After that I went to Stihl. But if I were looking for a new one today, I would go with Farmertek. They are Stihl clones and so close that you can use Farmertek parts to repair Stihl saws. Or vice versa. Project Farm did a comparison of a number of popular brands. Farmertek was not included, but Stihl was a very clear winner.
If the Poulan's are such junk, why are you hanging on to them??? I find it funny people condemn a brand but give absolutely ZERO details on why or what model, just happy to condemn a brand...

Along those lines Stihl is trash too. I bought an MS250 from a guy on FB market that thought it was junk too. Too bad for him he ran it with a blade so dull that it clogged up the clutch with dust and made it so it wouldn't even engage. He had to buy another saw.
 

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I have a couple of Poulan saws in my junk pile. Neither one has more tha five hours on them before they gave up. After that I went to Stihl. But if I were looking for a new one today, I would go with Farmertek. They are Stihl clones and so close that you can use Farmertek parts to repair Stihl saws. Or vice versa. Project Farm did a comparison of a number of popular brands. Farmertek was not included, but Stihl was a very clear winner.
Less than 5 hours!! Did you know you're supposed to put oil in the gas? :p

I'm just joking. I have no reason to dispute your claim. Mine worked fine for several years of moderate use, but that's a sample size of one - you literally have twice as much evidence. 😄

If that's the typical longevity though, you'd think reviews would be terrible and warranty returns rampant.
 

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If the Poulan's are such junk, why are you hanging on to them??? I find it funny people condemn a brand but give absolutely ZERO details on why or what model, just happy to condemn a brand...
They are in my sell pile for parts. Instead of buyer, I keep getting people asking if I want to buy theirs.
 
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