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lt1driver

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need a camera and monitor for front door only just to keep eye out now and then if noises heard or to see who is at door, what brands/systems do you recommend and ideas. thanks
 
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Beemer533

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I have a setup pretty much exactly what you describe ;

I use this camera http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00JPJJPQC/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?qid=1418959543&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70

With this NVR connected to my main tv
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FJHI9UM/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I have other hikvision cameras and a primary nvr for my security system, but just these 2 work really well for the front door. The audio is actually not bad either.

Keep in mind that you will need a poe injector with the setup above to power the camera. You will also need a hard drive if you want to record. Although the camera in my link can take a micro SD card, so that would work as well.

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HoosierGarage

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I recommend using IP cameras and a good NVR package that supports a wide variety of cameras. Exacq makes a great NVR software package and the cost is pretty reasonable (per camera license ). I have been buying some 360 and 180 degree cameras and they cover a large area using just one license and camera.

The IP cams I use are all PoE (power over ethernet) which saves time and money considering you only have one cable. This also gives you more freedom when placing cameras because dedicated power for each camera is not needed.

The initial cost of setting up a system like this is a little steep but it lets you scale out quickly and cheaply when you start growing.

At work we had a hybrid IP and analog system that was not really great.

I ended up moving to the exacq system and all IP system and the system has grown from 2 cameras to 10 for our small manufacturing facility.

The owners of the business ended up wanting this at ther houses I used the same system and was able to integrate some of the existing analog cameras in his home using a couple of 4 port encoders.

All three of the camera systems work great and the iPhone app works well too.
 

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I bought the HF system on sale awhile back and installed it over Thanksgiving. I put four cameras up three to monitor anyone coming up to the building and one inside showing anyone approaching my main tool box. The recorder works great and camera quality is good enough to see license plate numbers if they pull into the driveway.
 

Wuaname

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I recommend using IP cameras and a good NVR package that supports a wide variety of cameras. Exacq makes a great NVR software package and the cost is pretty reasonable (per camera license ). I have been buying some 360 and 180 degree cameras and they cover a large area using just one license and camera.

The IP cams I use are all PoE (power over ethernet) which saves time and money considering you only have one cable. This also gives you more freedom when placing cameras because dedicated power for each camera is not needed.

The initial cost of setting up a system like this is a little steep but it lets you scale out quickly and cheaply when you start growing.

At work we had a hybrid IP and analog system that was not really great.

I ended up moving to the exacq system and all IP system and the system has grown from 2 cameras to 10 for our small manufacturing facility.

The owners of the business ended up wanting this at ther houses I used the same system and was able to integrate some of the existing analog cameras in his home using a couple of 4 port encoders.

All three of the camera systems work great and the iPhone app works well too.

Who would sell these ip cameras?
 

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We have installed Hikvision and Dahua IP cameras for several years and both work great.

If you want a package deal and have a Costco near by, check out their Swann packages. They are rebranded Hikvision cameras.

You don't have to use a NVR if you are only running a few cameras and are only going to record off the motion triggers. TP-Link males a nice little 4 POE switch that you can plug into your router and run 4 cameras off of and record to your computer with something like Blue Iris software.

You will need a pretty fast processor though if running more than 2-3 cameras to your computer.

Avoid Foscam camera systems. There are much better quality cameras available for less.
 

propav8r

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NVR: Network Video Recorder...kinda like a DVR.
POE: Power Over Ethernet. Means that you dont' have to provide the cameras a seperate power source...the cat5 carries the power for the camera.
TP-Link is just one of many manufacturers.

Used to do fire alarm/security/camera installation full-time.

On the residential/consumer side of things, Swan(n?) makes some good stuff that's relatively affordable.
 
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HoosierGarage

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Who would sell these ip cameras?

I like to buy cameras from B&H photo.
They have a good customer service record from me.

I like Acti for their weatherproof bullet cameras, reasonable cost and a decent feature set.

For the NVR pc all you really need is a decent PC and a UPS.
That's the other nice thing about IP cameras, you can easily provide backup power for your cameras.

I would caution anyone into getting complete systems from the bargin bin... I have seen lots of cheap "weatherproof" cameras fail within 12 months.

:beer:
 

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I'm running 8 Dahua ip cams 5mega pixel with infrared, and the pictures are very clear. I would suggest getting the wide angle ones (3.x mm lens) unless you have a very long hallway.

I would shop alibaba and get them shipped straight from china. The ones i got were sold for almost $200 each here in the US, I picked mine up while overseas for about $80 a pop.

Can anyone explain for the uninitiated...NVR, POE, TP-Links?

Thanks in advance.

POE - Power over Ethernet. security cameras are assigned an IP address (internet protocal address), so it behaves like a mini-server in your home network. POE uses two of the conductors in the ethernet cable to power your security camera. The advantage of this is you dont have to run two cables (an ethernet cable for the data that the camera is sending, and a DC power line. The disadvantage of this is you need to get a POE switch/hub ($15-$150, depend on number of camera and level of sophistication)

NVR - Network Video Recorder. All those security cameras send their videos to a NVR so you can record and view them. If you have cameras that have panning feature, NVR is where you control this function. Think of it like the VHS recorder, but with much more functions.
 

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I wasn't being a smart ***.....I'm on Google all the time looking up definitions on this stuff.....it's all Greek to me. Ya need a degree in Security Science to follow all this.
 

HoosierGarage

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Hikvision Outdoor Domes (720p @ ~$100ea) + Cheap POE Injector + Switch + iSpy on my Server

I will have to check the Hikvision cameras out, that is the second time I have read a good review on them. Thanks for the recommendation :thumbup:

One thing about going with the Cheap PoE injectors over a PoE switch is that you loose the ability to remotely reboot a camera that is locked up. And you can check the power utilization per port. The other plus is that with the PoE switch you only have one AC adapter eating up power from dropping the 120v down to 48v dc or whatever the selected switch is.

I have a couple of installations where having a remote reboot is really helpful.

Here is a decent PoE switch and it has 2 SFP ports. It's about $120 right now.
http://support.netgear.com/product/GS110TP
 

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I would ask your local cops (investigators) as to what they recommend. If you have to use the video to ID a bad guy, you want something usable. I know alot of PDs use video enhancing software for the crappy set ups.
 

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I have the Lorex wireless setup. It comes with an LED display that can 'look' like a digital picture frame.

It uses an SD card for storage. Depending on activity, we get from 2-4 days of recording. It also includes audio which comes in handy.

It's most common use is keeping an eye on the kids in the front yard. When we hear yelling we know to look to see what is going on.
 

Beemer533

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Here is a link to another thread here with
some good info ;
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259609

As I linked in my first post here (post #2), I also use the hikvision cameras, they are excellent especially at the price point . I would go with the 3mp cameras though, you can zoom in (digital zoom) a lot more than the 720p cameras..

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