SW macro proxy 646

[Hivolts]

All,

My first post. Happy to be here. I've been lurking for a while and have a concern/question..

I found a company to epoxy my garage. Yesterday they came out and grinded it and acid washed due to it has paint or previous epoxy on it. There still is a lot of previous paint on it and they said today they will be back to epoxy it.

I went out after they left and can scrape the old stuff up still. Picture attached.

I've heard the macro epoxy 646 is good stuff but do you think it will stick to this grinded application they have done?

Should I tell them to get lost or continue hoping this new stuff will stick?

Pictures are coming.

Thanks

 

[Hivolts]

Pictures attached

 

[Hivolts]

Another, this one you can see where I scraped the old stuff into a pile.

 

[Hivolts]

Different view

 

[Shea]

From your pictures, it doesn't look like a grinder touched the concrete. Did you watch them do it? If it was ground properly, the paint would have come up and you would have a clean and properly profiled surface. Also, you do not acid etch if concrete has been ground. Acid etching does not remove paint either.

If you are scraping stuff up into piles, the epoxy is going to stick to the stuff that is coming up and not the concrete. Result - a floor that peels up.

Is this an actually garage floor coating company/contractor or a guy who says he's done this before?

 

[Hivolts]

It looked like a floor buffer. I did see them acid etch it. Company is a painting company that says they do garage floors too.

 

[Shea]

Yes, that is what I suspected. They just used a floor buffer with a scrub pad and then tried to acid etch afterwords. In all honesty, I would think twice about having them do your floor, but that is up to you. They may know their stuff when it comes to painting walls, but applying coatings to concrete is a whole different ball game. Most painters think it's the same, but it's not.

Concrete prep is the most important aspect of the job and their poor prep illustrates this. If they apply the epoxy to your floor in its current condition you will have peeling issues for sure.

I would suggest temporarily halting the current work and contact an actual garage floor coating company or contractor to have them look at the floor and give you a free estimate if you have doubts or questions. They can look at the floor in its current state and give you info about it as well.

 

[CombatNinja]

Do not have them finish the job. They have no idea what they are doing and the poor result will begin to show soon after they are paid.

 

[Hivolts]

End result,

They did come back today. Told him my concerns with putting epoxy over the floor in its current condition. Hey said the epoxy would stick, no problem.

Original cost as of receipt yesterday is written up as a $200 grind and a $450 epoxy. $650 total.

I say, no thanks... I'll pay you for the horrible grind you did yesterday and that's it. $200 was for the grind.

He became extremely upset, yelling, wanted to call police, take me to civil court, pay for the nights hotel, pay for his gas, pay for his food, etc..

I once again told him I'd pay the $200 as written on the receipt from yesterday for the grind. Which I did and now the final receipt says I paid the $200 but still owe him $100 for an acid rinse.

Now he texted "see you in court"..

Wow, all this for $100 in which he thinks I owe him.

Clearly, I will grind again correctly then epoxy myself.

 

[James-W]

I seriously doubt you will end up in court, but if you do, take someone with you as a witness, someone who knows what they are doing when it comes to putting epoxy on concrete. Depending on who the judge is, you may even get your $200 back as well because he did not actually grind the floor, he ran a buffer with a scratch pad over it.

 

[Armorpoxy]

Anyone that knows what they are doing won't etch a coating since it does nothing. Also anyone that grinds never etches, Thats why they grind. Suggest moving on. Let him take the time and expense to sue.

 

[Hivolts]

Thanks all. Can't see him doing anything with this for $100. If anything I should get my $200 back. I paid him just to basically get him off the property. My wife, who was in the house did call the police because he was screaming and acting like he was going to escalate the situation.

Police did arrive after he left. We made statement.

Now today I'm scraping and grinding.

Pics will be posted as I continue and upon completion.