Swisstrax tile for only 2.89/sf

[jskco]

We do not offer this on GarageFloor.com yet, but SwissTrax is one of the best tiles we sell and is currently on sale at http://www.jnkproducts.com/swisstrax-diamondtrax.htm for only $2.89/sf. That means it is no more expensive than the Daytona or Daytona Coin for a much heavier tile.

Justin Krauss
www.garagefloor.com

 

[Value]

We do not offer this on GarageFloor.com yet, but SwissTrax is one of the best tiles we sell and is currently on sale at http://www.jnkproducts.com/swisstrax-diamondtrax.htm for only $2.89/sf. That means it is no more expensive than the Daytona or Daytona Coin for a much heavier tile.

Justin Krauss
www.garagefloor.com

Please explain in terms of thickness, material, etc, why SwissTrax is "better" than RaceDeck. Both are made from similar material. How much thicker is Swisstrax? Thanks.

 

[jskco]

The product you mentioned is a great product which I do not sell and as such I am not going to compare it because my opinion is biased by the fact that I sell the Swisstrax.

Diamondtrax has 5 locks, is 100% virgin material and is guaranteed not to permanently stain. I have been very impressed that Swisstrax does not separate when you turn your tires.

I would request a sample of each and make up your own mind as to which is best.

Justin Krauss
GarageFloor.com

 

[Value]

The product you mentioned is a great product which I do not sell and as such I am not going to compare it because my opinion is biased by the fact that I sell the Swisstrax.

Diamondtrax has 5 locks, is 100% virgin material and is guaranteed not to permanently stain. I have been very impressed that Swisstrax does not separate when you turn your tires.

I would request a sample of each and make up your own mind as to which is best.

Justin Krauss
GarageFloor.com

Your response is "weak" at best. For example, if you sold BMW and not Mercedes Benz you would still be able to list ADVANTAGES of your brand over the other without negative comments.

Again, what is the THICKNESS of your tile vs. RaceDECK? Is SwissTrax made with BETTER material than Racedeck? If you won't defend your product against the competition then who will?

We both agree SWisstrax and RaceDeck are good products but why buy the lesser known brand over the "number one garage tile floor in the USA"?

 

[jskco]

As a matter of company policy we believe it to be unprofessional to compare our product to a product we don't sell. The product you speak of is a great product. So are Daytona as well as others. I've sold many types of garage tiles and if I were using a garage tile in my own garage I would use Swisstrax.

I can absolutely list what I believe the highlights of Swisstrax to be for you, but as I do not sell the product you reference, how would it be fair for me to say what it will or won't do?

The car industry has basic facts that can be presented based on industry testing. 0-60, Federal Tests, etc. When it comes to tile, you have thickness (both products are 1/2", you have material: Both products are a polypropylene, number of locks: Swisstrax has 5, ability of product to resist stains: Swisatrax guarantees it.

Additional information:
Warranty: 12 year limited
Material: Polypropylene copolymer
Chemical Resistance: (UV Stabilized)
Alkalis - Excellent
Oil, Gas & other Auto Fluids - Excellent
Acids / Solvents - Good
Tile Weight: 17.5 ounces
Tile Size: 13" square
Slide: Non Slip
Temperature Tolerances: -22F + 248F
Compressive Strength: 5120 psi
Fire Rating: UL94 (USA) or BS476 - part 7 - class 1 (UK)

Most other statements are a matter of opinion. Just like in your example the only way to truly get an answer is to go for a test drive! You seem like an intelligent individual. I’m sure you would not buy one car over another just because the manufacturer says its better?

 

[Value]

As a matter of company policy we believe it to be unprofessional to compare our product to a product we don't sell. The product you speak of is a great product. So are Daytona as well as others. I've sold many types of garage tiles and if I were using a garage tile in my own garage I would use Swisstrax.

I can absolutely list what I believe the highlights of Swisstrax to be for you, but as I do not sell the product you reference, how would it be fair for me to say what it will or won't do?

The car industry has basic facts that can be presented based on industry testing. 0-60, Federal Tests, etc. When it comes to tile, you have thickness (both products are 1/2", you have material: Both products are a polypropylene, number of locks: Swisstrax has 5, ability of product to resist stains: Swisatrax guarantees it.

Additional information:
Warranty: 12 year limited
Material: Polypropylene copolymer
Chemical Resistance: (UV Stabilized)
Alkalis - Excellent
Oil, Gas & other Auto Fluids - Excellent
Acids / Solvents - Good
Tile Weight: 17.5 ounces
Tile Size: 13" square
Slide: Non Slip
Temperature Tolerances: -22F + 248F
Compressive Strength: 5120 psi
Fire Rating: UL94 (USA) or BS476 - part 7 - class 1 (UK)

Most other statements are a matter of opinion. Just like in your example the only way to truly get an answer is to go for a test drive! You seem like an intelligent individual. I’m sure you would not buy one car over another just because the manufacturer says its better?

I am ordering my samples (SwissTrax) today. Then, I will make my own determination.

 

[Value]

Samples ordered. Price is very similar and warranty is 15 years for RaceDeck.
The locking mechanism of SwissTrax seems better but I will compare them directly. As for "staining" the RaceDeck is a high quality tile and I am not buying any white tiles.

My wife designed a multi-colored floor so 12" tiles are easier to work with over 13". But, I am open to spending a bit more on SwissTtrax if they hold together better than RaceDeck.

 

[jskco]

Be careful about warranties. Most of them are so pro rated that once you get out a couple years they have no value. As to staining, no white is a good choice. Even some other colors can stain from certain tires. If you have high performance tires or vehicles you will want to be extra careful on this.

 

[BreBar21]

What other colors have staining issues??? I'm going to be tiling part of my garage soon and am curious. I was leaning towards a graphite/black combination.

 

[jskco]

What other colors have staining issues??? I'm going to be tiling part of my garage soon and am curious. I was leaning towards a graphite/black combination.

With Swisstrax any color tile can be buffed using a floor cleaner to remove any stubborn stains. If you are unable to remove such a stain the tile would be replaced for free. I know of no one else who makes that offer. In general the darker the tile the better as the chemical from some tires can rub off on any tile but is less likely to be seen on black and other dark tiles.

 

[speadrider]

Prior to doing my floor a few years ago, I got samples from many companies including Swisstrax. The first thing I took into account was the response times and Race Deck had "Free" sample to me within two days, while Swisstrax took over a week and they charged me for samples. Of all the samples I received, it came down to Race Deck and Swisstrax. Unlike the professional response from JSKO, the people at Swisstrax had no problem with trashing Race Deck, which I found distasteful. The salesperson at Race Deck really on mentioned some of their features and when I pressed them to compare only said mentioned Race Deck was not brittle like others and to take their tile and Swisstrax over my knee ( upside down) and try to break it. The Swisstrax tile shattered and the Race Deck did not. I also find the Race Deck pattern not as busy as the Swisstrax.
In regards to warranty, I had damaged a few tiles trying to weld something and went to order about 5 replacement tiles since it was obviously my fault. When I explained what happened, she said she would send me new ones at no charge, now that is customer service.
If I were going to buy another garage floor today, it would be without a doubt be Race Deck based on product and service. My second choice would be the Costco tile that is on sale in the store for around $2.00.
I think JSKO seems to be an ethical businessman by taking the high road on this and if he sold Race Deck he would be another choice for me.

 

[jskco]

Free samples of several types of garage floor tiles are available via garagefloor.com. Personally, I think price should be your last consideration when it comes to tile. You’ll find people biased towards all sorts of products, especially those who work with them and are not up front about it. I wonder who makes the Costco tile?? I’m surprised to see RaceDeck will match the $2.89 price. But speadrider sure does seem to know and talk about racedeck a lot so I am sure if he says they will match the price they will.

As for the old bend the tile over your knee trick. I’ve seen to many people play to many games with this one. I have a hunch that some manufacturers send seconds out as samples (which probably is not the best idea) and other manufacturers exploit it. I have never had a Swisstrax tile break, but then again I have never driven a truck over one while sitting over something resembling someone’s knee (and upside down to boot!.)

I went back to the office and grabbed a couple of samples of every brand of tile I could find. I’m here to tell you that upside down you can break all of them!


Justin Krauss
GarageFloor.com

 

[speadrider]

JSKO-
I know a lot about Race Deck because I have had in my garage for some time now and I also spent a considerable amount of time researching all of the products on the market, this was a significant investment for me at the time. There are a lot of people on this forum who know a lot about whatever product they have in their garage. The reason I know they will match the price is because they did it for me when I called. I DO NOT WORK FOR RACE DECK! I just like their product.

 

[ThisOldGarage]

I have Swisstrax in my garage and I love it. I saw it at SEMA last year and I talked to Swisstrax and Racedeck. RaceDeck definitely has more momentum in this country. I've seen pics of Racedeck and Daytona 'tenting' in the middle.

If you really want to know what a tile is made of pull your F250 on it and crank your wheels!

 

[speadrider]

ThisOldGarage- Agreed! up until about two months ago I had Hummer H-1 that I had to drive in and turn to fit in the garage, my Race Deck held up to the test everyday. The good news is we both love our floors, compared to the Epoxy disaster I had before

 

[XLR-V]

I hate to drag up a old thread, but I'm in the process of deciding on Swisstrak (ribtrax) and I was told by someone that just had it installed in his garage that he would not recommend attempting to do it yourself. Anybody done it themself and agree/disagree with his assessment? Below is his post he made on another forum:

OK..Now that I see you serious let me say there's no way you can do a custom install yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I had installation included as well as shipping and paid the approx. price you quoted within $50 but added one more garage for an additional $800. (i have a three car garage) There are tools necessary to cut tiles and make the edges fit perfectly. THERE'S NO WAY I WOULD ATTEMPT TO DO THIS MYSELF!!!! Imperfect tiles were in a few boxes and were replaced by the installers with new perfect tiles. I would accept nothing but perfection and watched the entire install which took about 5 hours. The installers had 2 big cutters, drills, honing equipment, sand paper, special clippers and years of expertise. They ran into a few tight spots where the edges of the garage were not perfectly straight and make the individual cuts to make the tiles fit perfectly. When I asked about people installing this product themselves I was looked at with a stare and was told some people try. If you are installing in a free floating space in the center of a floor and not going out to the edges it can be done easily as long as there are no things to cut around but if you want to go out to the sides with zero tolerance edges like I have ....forget it. Demand free installation from the local rep. They gave it to me.

 

[gsw]

One tile that gets overlooked on this forum on all the threads about tiles is the Autodeck tile from Instant Garage Floors in NY. It has 7 interlocking connectors compared to the 5 on Racedeck but the real diff is underneath the tile. Much more support and strength than the others. Great support from buying direct and in my opinion a better tile than the others.

 

[RaceDeck1]

I have been watching this thread from the sidelines and agree with Justin ( JNK) on not bashing anyone... I believe Justin is a stand up guy and his company is a reputable internet reseller.

For the Record, SpeadRider does not work for RaceDeck and I do not kow who he is other than a happy customer. He is correct that RaceDeck will match or beat any competitors price on similair products and RaceDeck sample tiles are free.