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Switching neutral wire instead of hot...harmless or not?

JackOfDiamonds

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My house does not have GFCI in the garage. I was wiring up a new GFCI receptacle in an easily accessible location, and then I was going to have that receptacle protect the rest of my garage circuit. To do this I need to disconnect both the hot and the neutral wires of the original circuit in the panel, and wire them to the output of the new GFCI receptacle.

Because I'm stupid, I didn't turn off the main breaker in the panel. I only turned off the breaker to the garage circuit, and then disconnected the neutral wire from the neutral bus bar. However, it turns out I traced the wires wrong, and so I accidentally disconnected the neutral wire for the kitchen receptacles (fridge, microwave, kettle, toaster oven) instead. The way I found out is my wife yelled from the kitchen. I threw the kitchen breakers off, reconnected the neutral, and turned everything back on. Everything works, except the GFI for the microwave was tripped, and....there's smoke in the kitchen, and a strong burnt electrical smell in the kitchen.

I don't understand why disconnecting the neutral wire from the kitchen circuit would actually hurt anything. It should have just about the same effect as turning off the breaker. So why would this episode cause anything in the kitchen to have a burnt smell? What kind of fault would even cause that?
 
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JackOfDiamonds

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I don't have any known MWBC...there's no double breakers, tied breakers, or 3-conductor romex running to the panel.

It could also be a capacitor on one of the PCBs of the appliances, but I don't know why disconnecting the neutral would bother them...I turn the breakers off and have power outages all the time.
 

whateg01

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I don't have any known MWBC...there's no double breakers, tied breakers, or 3-conductor romex running to the panel.

It could also be a capacitor on one of the PCBs of the appliances, but I don't know why disconnecting the neutral would bother them...I turn the breakers off and have power outages all the time.
The fact that you don't know why all of that happened would be a good reason to dig into it and find out if you have any unknown MWBC.
 

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I’m in for the answer to this one. :dunno:

I’m no electrician but from what I know, the MWBC is the only thing I can think of that would cause this situation.
 
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wyliesdiesels

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I don't have any known MWBC...there's no double breakers, tied breakers, or 3-conductor romex running to the panel.

It could also be a capacitor on one of the PCBs of the appliances, but I don't know why disconnecting the neutral would bother them...I turn the breakers off and have power outages all the time.
When i used to do service calls i saw all kinds of wild **** when it came to MWBCs- 2 single pole breakers in separate parts of the panel (on separate phases), 2x 12/2 NM-b cables being used for the MWBC, etc
 

PCustoms

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The fact that you don't know why all of that happened would be a good reason to call an electrician

FIFY.

The OP posting history shows a pattern of misunderstanding electrical and I fear they are in over their head. Before they start a fire or electrocute someone they should probably just call a professional.
 
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