Swivel brand toolbox

[autobon7]

Seen a bottom & top box as well as the work bench version at a local tool store and all I have to say is WOW, they are some heavy duty pieces. I have neither the need or the money for them but are the neatest boxes I have ever seen. Store worker actually stood in one of the drawers on the work bench.

http://www.swivel.pro/index.html

 

[chopper1]

There seems to be an awful lot of wasted space with the shape of the drawers that allow for the swing.

 

[SM Racing]

They seem pretty nice in person. I thought they would waste a bunch of space, but they fit in corners nicely. I saw them at a garage open house in Atlanta.

 

[alex71]

exactly how is that better than a toolbox with drawers?

 

[autobon7]

The swivel part is neat but how heavy the drawers/box is, never have to worry if you are overloaded. Never worry about being too rough....

 

[autobon7]

Re: Swivel brand toolbox Xtra Heavy Duty

Forgot to mention, quality made in Canada

 

[Displaced Hokie]

Looks cool to me...just different. Neat for a corner for sure.

 

[SM Racing]

They are very heavy duty. I was actually impressed. They are made of much thicker material than most tool boxes. I don't know that I would own one, but if I had a space that could use a corner storage I might try them. Too bad I am a cheap *******, I might actually buy them.

 

[Jason Ga]

What are the price ranges? I don't see any price info on the web page.

 

[autobon7]

Seeing it in person, it didn't seem as if there was much/any wasted space. The drawers opened and closed like silk, the greasable spindle was big and buttery smooth. Very impressive.

 

[chevydriver37]

What are the price ranges? I don't see any price info on the web page.

Found a write up on Carcrafts website. Prices range from 1300 to 5170, but they say dealers may have better pricing. Wonder if the dealer gets it for about half that much, then marks up and deals accordingly. Nice box, but I personally would have to see one before shelling out 5200 bucks, whereas I'd spend that sight unseen on a new snappy box.

 

[autobon7]

Pro 20 Bench $1,099
Top Box Fold Down LI $1399
Pro 30 Workbench $2350
8 Drawer Bottom Roll $1999
Pro 50 Un Right CabI $3600
Pro 60 Workbench $3499

This was my local store price.

 

[Damian]

That's one of those cool ideas that I could say "hey thats neat" but would never spend money on it. I'll keep my pull-out drawers.

 

[2chipped]

Artistic engineering.......yes .........................practical............no

 

[autobon7]

Artistic engineering.......yes .........................practical............no

How come not practical? Just curious.

 

[archirelic]

Artistic engineering.......yes .........................practical............no

i am too wondering, why you believe this isn't a practical set-up?

i'm still out on the fence concerning this one, but was simply curious about your statement.

 

[johnnybentwrench]

It's not a new idea. Stahlwille roll master is the same style swing out drawers. I like it, but am not spending that much for it

 

[JSBriggs]

How come not practical? Just curious.

Everything in green is wasted space.

-Jeff

 

[autobon7]

Pretty good point but if heavy is needed more than space then it would be moot.

 

[2chipped]

How come not practical? Just curious.

i am too wondering, why you believe this isn't a practical set-up?

i'm still out on the fence concerning this one, but was simply curious about your statement.

I am no engineer.......... however being in the construction (framing,trim ,cabinets,to current fencing, handrailings,screenrooms,and outdoor furniture)for over 15 yrs has taught me some basic principles.

The difference between a door/gate and a drawer is the intended use.
Both are the same in principle(a basic cover for an opening) ,but do diff thing............ a door is used to go thru to the adjoining area......whereas a drawer exposes an area ............not thru access on a daily basis.

Problem #1When using a door you step away from the swing area (this means standing to the right side of left hinged drawer and since the cabinet is dbl banked ,so on the other bank you switch to the other side to open a drawer .........Problem #2 also contorting your body to swing open a bottom drawer..........Problem #3 when drawer is opened tools change orientation from 90deg depending how far the drawer is opening in it's radius........Problem#4If you need a tool that's all the way on the left in the center on a left swinging drawer means opening drawer all the way open.

Problem #5 tools are made to fit in square surroundings whether trays or socket rails,etc ........not 1 side with a radius

To get an idea of use go to any cabinet door and grab it halfway down or lower and open imagining taking a tool out of a drawer connected to the door at the height of your hand.

 

[autobon7]

2chipped If I hadn't seen this box in store yesterday I would tend to agree with your assesments. Prob 1 is not a prob as you are centered, even with both sides open you still have enough room in the middle (green area in pic above).
Prob 2 (see above)

Prob 3 Just set your drawers up for the 90deg swing, not as you would with a straight pull drawer.

Prob 4 I usually will be an arms length (maybe half) away when I open my standard box, this box would be no diff.

Prob 5 (see 3)

I'm sure this box is not for everyone but is way heavier than any other I've seen and if someone is looking for something that is not a run of the mill looking box, then those 2 points alone would make it a good choice.

 

[Ritter4.0]

One good thing I can see about the benchtop model is that an open drawer would take up less bench space. I am left handed, and have my bench box on the far left of my work bench. With a box like this, I would put my most used tools in the left side of the box. That way I have more free space on my bench.

The same could be said about a box with all drawers split down the middle too (I would go for the spit drawer option first). But if you have very heavy, small, and expensive tooling then the Swivel box would be a pretty good option. By expensive I meant costing more than the box.

 

[2chipped]

2chipped If I hadn't seen this box in store yesterday I would tend to agree with your assesments. Prob 1 is not a prob as you are centered, even with both sides open you still have enough room in the middle (green area in pic above).
Prob 2 (see above)

Prob 3 Just set your drawers up for the 90deg swing, not as you would with a straight pull drawer.

Prob 4 I usually will be an arms length (maybe half) away when I open my standard box, this box would be no diff.

Prob 5 (see 3)

I'm sure this box is not for everyone but is way heavier than any other I've seen and if someone is looking for something that is not a run of the mill looking box, then those 2 points alone would make it a good choice.

Very good rebuttal
However I believe in practical function 1st, and if aesthetics do not take away from the former then I'm all for it.
The 2 sides use 1 unique action per side(1 right and 1 left).


Hypothetically I would have 1 hand holding my left thumb to keep a jet from falling out of a carb and the right hand is the toolfinder and someone moved my small flat screw driver from the top left drawer to the 3rd drawer on the right and all the way in the back right corner .....would require moving my body from side to side to accomplish this task is imho wasted motion.
Swinging my hand in an arc left side then the right side requires 30%? more than pulling straight out................... also don't have to stand to either side or the front.
Less drawer space is also an issue.

I only went to 11th grade so this^ is only "my" opinion.

If everything was thought up inside the box it would be a boring world ....but I did say I liked the "practical" in this case.

 

[autobon7]

If any of you tool mongers are in/near St Louis, MO then these Swivel boxes can be seen in Woodriver, IL (about 30 min from stl) at Waltco Tools & Equipment. No affiliation just a long time satisfied customer.

 

[jeffk14]

I guess it's an interesting design, if you're into things "with a new twist" or that are "different". I don't see the advantage myself. Especially at prices much higher than conventional cabinets.

Then again, I don't see the lure in those Hazet Assistant rollaround swivelly stackey-tray things that some people on here are in love with either.

 

[autobon7]

Anyone have this box? Please chime in if ya do.

 

[autobon7]

Anybody?

 

[Swivel.pro]

Hello All,

Thank you for all of your comments. Many who think that it is not practical, gives up space or is just for looks before seeing it in person do a complete about face after seeing it. For those who believe space is lost, if one were to compare an identical width unit with sliding drawers you would have to include some structure in the middle to mount the sliders to. This is space that we gain however we do lose some with the curve so it is virtually a wash. Additionally, it is very easy to access the whole drawer, even the back. The inventor was constantly having trouble with his sliding drawers in his shop due to grinding dust. Also the heavy CNC dies would cause the drawers to sag and not operate propely over time. This design he came up with eliminated his problem with the grinding dust and with 14 gauge drawers the heaviest of dies would not cause sagging. Due to the nature of the design, even with heavier weight towards the outside of the drawer the two main tubes coming off of the hinge are more than able to pick up the load. There is also so little friction lost to the hinge that it still operates very easiliy even when loaded with wieght. We have had units in service in our shop for 8 years and they work just like new whereas we used to have to replace sliding drawer based tool stroage every 18 -24 months previously.

I get that this won't be for everybody, but for those who for whatever reason have grown frustrated with sliding drawers and lighter gauge construction, we offer a very viable alternative. Thank you all again for the comments.

Regards,
Mike Stuart
Director of Sales & Marketing
Swivel Storage Solutions
[email protected]
http://www.swivel.pro

 

[tonydanzah]

wow they finally fixxed the gad aweful website

 

[premierplayer]

I saw several comments about corner use.
Guess I'm missing something. How do you figure this swivel concept is better in a corner than a straight pull box? If the width of the box fits in the alcove or corner, both box's operate, right?

 

[Swivel.pro]

The Swivel Pro50 corner storage unit has a drawer that swivel's in the center. The easiest thing to compare it to would be a lazy susan. That is why it works so well in a corner and utilizes the space so well.

 

[autobon7]

I initialy said I didn't have the need or money for this product (a bench), welllll, I came away so impressed that I decided to sell a few things to raise some money to put towards a bench. May take a few weeks of Craigslisting but who needs 4 floor jacks anyway, (with a 5th on the way if I can score a deal).

Bottom line, and the neat swivel feature aside, these boxes/benches are so Da*ned heavy I can totally see my vise mounted on the bench and never needing another bench ever. They are that good. If you have not seen one in person please do so and then come back to share impressions. If you have never seen one and are commenting on the design etc, I respect that, but in the end that would be kinda like me reviewing a tool I've never used. Gotta get your hands on it and "think outside the box", lol.

It may not be for everyone but how are you going to know without kickin the tires?

 

[breakneck]

I saw the boxes at a trade show and thought the design was ok. Had a few questions the dealer couldn't answer so called the company directly. Worst customer service EVER.

 

[breakneck]

I saw the boxes at a trade show and thought the design was ok. Had a few questions the dealer couldn't answer so called the company directly. Worst customer service EVER.

 

[W650Mike]

Very intriguing design! What a boring world it would be if no-one tried something different. I look forward to seeing one in person.

(Plus the guy sat in and stood in the drawer. That alone should meet the demands of this forum.)