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Tall 30x40 heat and AC

IPACA9

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Getting close to purchase of our house. Full acre lot with this 30x40 in the back yard.

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It's fully insulated and I want to install heating and cooling in it. I'm assuming we'd go with natural gas. I'm going to build a mezzanine on each end in it as well since I have the height.

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My thoughts is I would like to connect a type of smart thermostat that I can control with my phone before I head out to the building.
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Like to know your thoughts about what you would do or recommend for units

I see myself doing a lot of work in the building. I own a car audio business, work on vehicles, motorcycles, have lots of hobbies such as models, RC planes and have three boys 1, 5 and 8. Going to be good times in here as long as it's comfortable to be in.
 
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My thoughts is I would like to connect a type of smart thermostat that I can control with my phone before I head out to the building.

Honeywell makes a Wi-Fi thermostat that is available at Home Depot for around $100. You can control it via an app on your phone. I have it in my house and it works fine. Two potential problems for workshop use: You'll need Wi-Fi in the shop and this thermostat won't work below 40 degrees so you'll need to leave the heat mode at 40 or higher.

For my workshop that is currently under construction, I'd like a similar thermostat. But I want one that I can turn on remotely regardless of the actual temperature in the workshop.

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Maybe if your climate isn't to harsh. . BUT, your building is not really "fully insulated". What you basically have is a condensation barrier. My building is just like yours. They put it on the outside before screwing on the metal siding. So everywhere its screwed on its 1/4 inch thick. in between where it puffs out is maybe 1 inch thick. So, You might have r4 in spots. So, you might want to plan on more insulation.
 
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IPACA9

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I really should have looked more closely at it but it was just a quick look in it when they were showing the house. I guess the word "insulated" stuck with me.

The housing listing info
...PLUS HUGE, NEW, INSULATED Outbuilding: 30 X 40, 2 Man Doors, Garage Door Opener, (Two) 10 X 12 Garage Doors, 100 AMP Service, Stub-outs, Electric plugs and lights, Option to build a second floor office space, 14 foot walls.

I'd thought about finishing the walls inside it anyways so with that would be some insulation behind it like you said. I'm not scared. I like a project.
 
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This summer I'm going to spray foam the ceiling, and build walls between the posts, and put in 5 inches of cellulose. I have heated mine all winter, but it takes a ton of heat at 10 below. I have 2 hanging hydronic heaters. Run off a outdoor wood burner. I also heat my house off it too. Used a lot of wood this winter. Good thing I have a free supply of wood. Next winter, It will be easier to heat. my shop is 36x40.
 

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I installed 2 of the $100 dollar Honeywells last fall, one in my home and one in my shop which is about 3 blocks from home. They work great. I really like being able to turn the heat up in my shop before I leave work or a little while before I head up there from home. It does only go down to 40 which has worked fine this winter but I am in the process of putting electric base board in the bathroom, office and storage room so I can keep those a little warmer. Next winter I would like to keep the shop area cooler than 40 because at 20 or 30 below it does take a lot of heat. I have been looking at the Ecobee, it appears you can keep the temp a lot cooler with that unit if you want.
 
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IPACA9

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This thing was sitting in the garage and the agent showing the house said he thinks it comes with it. Its not hooked up or anything. It's got an electrical connection on the side of it that I think is for a blower

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If that was my goal, I would probably put a packaged unit on the side of the building and duct it in with round duct down the center, and a low side return with an oversized filter grille on it.

And I would do gas heat so you can get a pretty quick warm up when needed.
 
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