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Tape measure mystery

wfopete

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On my Stanley PowerLock tape measure there is a diamond mark near the 19.25" mark and every 19.25" thereafter.

What is it for?

I have heard one explanation but I think the guy was pulling my leg. The feller that gave me the explanation said it took Stanley 2 hours to get him the answer!

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930dreamer

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What is the mark at 19" 3/16th on a tape measure, and why does it repeat itself ?

The so-called diamond mark is actually positioned at exactly 8/5 of a foot (that's exactly 1.6' or 19.2 inches, which is indeed pretty close to 19" 3/16 ).

The diamond marks are also called "black truss" markings, because they correspond to the truss layout which is used with 8-foot sheets of plywood (or other material), namely 5 trusses per sheet.

This is to be contrasted with "red stud" markings which appear every 16 inches by showing the corresponding inch number in red instead of black. The black markings and the red markings coincide at 8-foot intervals (96 inches).
That is to say: 5 black intervals or 6 red ones in an 8-foot width.

5/8 = 0.625 is a standard slope for a roof, which may thus be built by measuring horizontally as many diamonds as there are vertical feet.

The ratio 8/5 = 1.6 is very close to the so-called Golden Ratio, which has been used extensively in architecture since antiquity...
The golden ratio is the aspect ratio of a rectangle whose larger side is to the smaller side what the sum of the two sides is to the larger side. It is also equal to the diagonal of a regular pentagon of unit side. Its precise value is (1+sqrt(5))/2, which is about 1.618034
 

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LOL I dont know but seeing the photo Helps, looking at the photo I have seen that on my Tape also.
 
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wfopete

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Well there is one born every day. He told me it was a "government" mark for HUD house building. Apparently when building a HUD house, instead of placing stud every 16" OC the contractors are instructed to use the diamond mark and place them every 19 3/16" OC. This saves the government hundreds of dollars per house.
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brownbagg

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its so you can have five rafters under eight foot sheet of plywood (sideways)
 
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Jack Olsen

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The reason the little tab at the end is always loose is so that you can either measure by hooking it over the edge of the piece you're measuring or by butting it up against somethine flush with the end of the piece. The 'slop' should be equal to the thickness of the steel in the tab itself.
 

35mm

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I thought the tape measure mystery is "why can't I ever find one". I own a pile of them but it is the one tool I can never locate when I need one.
 

KermitFrog

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I thought the tape measure mystery is "why can't I ever find one". I own a pile of them but it is the one tool I can never locate when I need one.

Funny. When I saw this thread I thought about how the heck I own so many. Since I have started cleaning my garage I'm up to 10 now. I have them all clipped to one side of my cart. I keep thinking of it flipping over on it's side from being weighed down by so many tapes.

Good to learn about the diamond, I always wondered what it was for.
 

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If you have a square, it's also good to divide any section shorter than 8 feet into five equal portions. Just put the end of the tape on the corner, put the corner of the square on the other end of the section, and put the 8' mark of the tape on the square at some angle to the original line. Then mark the four diamonds, and use the square to project them back down to the line between the tape end and the corner of the square.
 
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