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PoorOwner

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I ordered the Euro paste from Zoro, for some reason a bucket of 35837 Tiger Paste arrived.

I emailed the manufacturer they just told me the Euro paste dries tacky and the Tiger does not.

Just wanted to know what is different about commercial trucks, will using this lube make the rim slip on passenger cars? I would think big trucks have much more torque than passenger cars.

Being new to working on tires I think I would appreciate one that doesn't dry tacky to get more time to clock a rim, etc.. I also have researched other tire lubricants and not all of the dry tacky at all.
 

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Just wanted to know what is different about commercial trucks, will using this lube make the rim slip on passenger cars? I would think big trucks have much more torque than passenger cars.

Nope,..... Not unless yer a Drag racer, but then you'd be screwin' the tires to the rims anyways,.....
 

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My question is why didn't you get what you ordered? I assume what they shipped you cost the same or more than what you ordered.
 
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I am not sure.
I have never had a problem with Zoro ever no matter how small the parts are, the tub has their system sticker on it 35848.

What I received is a slightly higher priced product. Maybe they substituted it.

I have heard of people stating not to put at the bead area, it makes sense, it only needs the lubrication so it bead can move from the drop center to the rim lip.
but, youtube I have seen people put it liberally over everywhere.
 

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Ive always used permanent antifreeze.If you are worried about your dogs licking it up just use RV antifreeze which is propylene glycol and non toxic.
 
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I think it will be fine. I've never used it though. I like the Murphy's tire mount compound. You dilute it with water for tire mounting. Use it undiluted to pack the bead if you have trouble getting the tire to take air.
 

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You can order astroglide in a 5 gallon tub at CVS. Makes a great tire mounting lube but they will look at you funny when they ring you up.


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I see on the Amazon site that Euro Paste can't be shipped to California. No idea why.
That's likely why they substituted the Tiger Paste.
 
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On my tractor tires I've always used Ru-Glyde tire lubricant. It has roughly the same properties, goes on liquid and slippery but dries tacky for adhesion later. Just an alternative which might be legal 50-states...
 

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Just wanted to know what is different about commercial trucks, will using this lube make the rim slip on passenger cars?

All of the videos I have seen of guys doing commercial truck tires, "cheap and lots of it" are the keys ! They usually take a 1 gallon jug from windshield washer fluid, fill it almost full and then put a big squirt of liquid dish soap (4-8 oz). I take a nail and make a hole in the cap and use the whole thing like a giant condiment squirt bottle.

YOU ARE OVER THINKING IT !

Personally, I prefer Murphy's Original Tire Soap. 8 lb bucket (should last a life time) should be about $20.

TIP : Can't seat a bead ? Pack tire soap in between the bead and the rim flange until you seal the whole area. Be careful when it seats the excess will squirt out. Scrape the excess off and put it backmin the tub.
 
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It really is no more complicated or expensive than diluted dish soap. I'm sure that much more expensive stuff works better. For the price different it had better.
 

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I see on the Amazon site that Euro Paste can't be shipped to California. No idea why.
That's likely why they substituted the Tiger Paste.

I once had a replacement wood handle for a vaughn hammer that Amazon couldnt ship to California. Wood handle.

Just recently a Cooper Industry 5 button Aspire switch in white couldnt be air shipped. The grey and black are safe, and could air ship.

I wouldnt use amazon shipping restrictions for ANY logical purposes......
 

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It really is no more complicated or expensive than diluted dish soap. I'm sure that much more expensive stuff works better. For the price different it had better.

The dish soap is going to get you in trouble eventually, especially in rear tractor tires. You seat the bead yukking it up about saving a few bones. You think its dry and you go on with your day. It gets wet in the field and you slip a bead and the rest of it will be spent messing with demounting the tire, in the field, cleaning out the soap, using the proper bead seating lube and putting in a new tube. This is not a good way to save money......

I forgot what the Ru-Glyde cost, I'm going to throw out $25 for a gallon.
 

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Yep, Ru-Glyde is slightly tacky when it dries, but you get a nice long "working time". Great stuff.

Ru-Glyde and most other tire mounting lubricants are based on a mild soap, not detergents, and they include anti-corrosion components. There's a difference.

Dish detergent, Windex, and many other hillbilly substitutes are great ways to corrode your wheels. Yes, steel and alloy wheels are painted or powdercoated, but there are always scratches in the finish. I've seen the results after a year or two several times, and they're not pretty. Please don't use detergents for mounting tires.




Slippage is very unlikely with passenger car and truck tires. But motorcycles have enough power and torque to make tires slip on the rims and cause all sorts of interesting havoc if you use a substitute lubricant that hangs around and stays slippery. For example, there was some idiot over on a motorcycle site who was advocating silicone spray; very, very bad idea for several reasons.

Use the right stuff; tires are kinda important. You wouldn't mix up your own motor oil from stuff you found under the kitchen sink, but for some reason there's a powerful compulsion among some folks to brew your own tire mounting lubricants without considering the long-term effects of the residue.


Anyway, back to the actual question: for your application I don't think it'll make much real-world difference, but I'd insist on getting what I ordered. You're getting half a pound less, for one.
 
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