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Wow!! another garage journal thread arguing about the origins and parentage of a company instead of talking about the tools they make :wtf:

I've said this in other threads, there is no perfect tool company nor one brand that makes the best of everything.

I don't really care who owns which brand or what other products the parent company churns out. I only care about the tools themselves.

I personally feel that Tekton over the last couple of years has done more to improve their tool offerings than any other brand. From screwdrivers, ratcheting wrenches, angle wrenches, and 90 tooth ratchets, on to probably the widest range of chrome sockets being released this summer, no one else has brought as many new items to a tool box lately.

Tekton continues to evolve, improve, and offer great tools at affordable prices. Not everything they offer is a winner-winner chicken dinner but, most tools are. They have great customer service, free shipping on their site along with rewards which to me, is icing on the cake that they sell direct.

I just don't understand why everything has to be a fight. why can't you use the tools you like and let the other guy use what he likes? just because you might not like their choice doesn't make it wrong. end of rant :beer:


not a rant fedwrench. just good conversation. you make excellent points. in fact many of them i agree with and have said some of them as well,but nobody listened to that.

tho only points i have been making is that people believe they are designing all of this stuff themselves. the angle wrenches, 90 tooth ratchets and screwdriver handles are most likely theirs. everything else? i bet it is a very small percentage of their lineup. those usa pliers, bars, punches, etc. are great but sorry those ar not tekton designed and specified. the pliers are actually wildes old design.

the other part is that somehow tekton is this completely new company. its not, it's an old company that changed it's name to get away from its past.
 
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I have to imagine that Tekton is nervous about the attempts to bring Craftsman U.S. manufacturing back. That mid tier Craftsman level quality combined with ease of warranty of many years ago was appreciated by a lot of diy mechanics.
 

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A bunch of you guys must be a blast at parties. I wonder if people are as confrontational in real life over simple matters, if so, it must be exhausting.
 

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Wow!! another garage journal thread arguing about the origins and parentage of a company instead of talking about the tools they make :wtf:

I've said this in other threads, there is no perfect tool company nor one brand that makes the best of everything.

I just don't understand why everything has to be a fight. why can't you use the tools you like and let the other guy use what he likes? just because you might not like their choice doesn't make it wrong. end of rant :beer:

Well said! :bowdown:

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I see the same behavior with cars, where people rag on one brand so that their chosen brand seems better. I drive a sports car, and if you drive one too you’re all right in my book. (Unless you’re a tool hater. :). ). From Miata to Vette, to Jag to Triumph to Mercedes, we’re all in the small set of people that put with the negatives of a small car for the positives of a great ride. Similarly the folks here are (at least mostly) people that enjoy tools, and we should celebrate that.

In the interest of full disclosure, I don’t have any Tekton tools, although I do have a set of Tekton screwdrivers on order. I am looking forward to comparing them to my existing US Craftsman, Xcelite, Wiha, and Stanley screwdrivers. I will also be comparing them to the Wiliams ones I also ordered. I actually hope I like the Willaims ones the best, as they cost me at least 2X more. :lol_hitti. But we’ll see once I get them and can use them...

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In the interest of full disclosure, I don’t have any Tekton tools, although I do have a set of Tekton screwdrivers on order. I am looking forward to comparing them to my existing US Craftsman, Xcelite, Wiha, and Stanley screwdrivers. I will also be comparing them to the Wiliams ones I also ordered. I actually hope I like the Willaims ones the best, as they cost me at least 2X more. :lol_hitti. But we’ll see once I get them and can use them...

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You sir have alot of screwdrivers...


I do have a decent amount of Tekton stuff and the only complaint I have is the etching on my impact sockets has worn off of a few. 10/10 Will continue buying
 

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Since somebody apparently said something stupid and the mods closed the other thread i will repost this here.

I may have asked some pointed questions of dave but was laways polite to him. This is the tool area of a garage site. There is nothing inappropriate about me asking where a tool is made and what makes it different than other tools. Especially if members of this site and the company is making claims about how good their production is.
 

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Since somebody apparently said something stupid and the mods closed the other thread i will repost this here.

I may have asked some pointed questions of dave but was laways polite to him. This is the tool area of a garage site. There is nothing inappropriate about me asking where a tool is made and what makes it different than other tools. Especially if members of this site and the company is making claims about how good their production is.

Tekton is very open about the COO of their tools. The last 2-3 years have seen big changes to their lineup - which includes several different updates to various lines and the introduction of new ones.

A big part of that was the pivot from a majority COO China/India to COO TAIWAN. That was a big step - look at the sockets and wrench differences - great tools.

The next has been the introduction of numerous COO USA tools: pliers, wrenches, screwdrivers, etc.

I’ll continue to support a company that strives to put forward a good product and is willing to improve and explore made in USA options.

The warranty isn’t too shabby either. My only gripe is that I’ll probably never wear out my Older style socket sets to jusitfy picking up their newest designs.
 

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did you not read anything i said. i am not argueing about whether tekton is good or bad. there seems to be a lot of proof that they have some really good stuff at a good price point.

i do think their website can say anything it wants and has little to back it up. tell me the address of their company. it's not on their website, are they anything more than a po box someplace? how are they connected to grip (grand rapids industrial products) or mit (michigan industrial tool), both located nearby.

I read something interesting today about Tekton & MIT (Michigan Industrial Tools). (Again, if your happy with their tools that is all that counts)

Tekton/MIT are co-owned by the Amash family in Michigan AND Dynamic Source International in China. It seems the Amash family are big importers

There is a political twist to this - so some 'dirt' is starting to come out. Allegations that all the Tekton Tools are made in China and then imported into the US. Pics of shipping records, etc, visits by Chinese Officials. (take it with a grain of salt)

Note the shipping records from earlier this year
 

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i have been saying that they have been less than forthcoming all along. i really have nothing against tekton but tekton is nothing more than the new mit. hell it's still mit. and let me tell ya mit is nothing to brag about. all i asked for was examples of how their hands on involvement was making their tools better and i got crickets. i asked where the usa made stuff was made and i got crickets.

if you have had good luck with them, great. if you like them great but there is some reason they don't want to answer questions.
 

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I read something interesting today about Tekton & MIT (Michigan Industrial Tools). (Again, if your happy with their tools that is all that counts)

Tekton/MIT are co-owned by the Amash family in Michigan AND Dynamic Source International in China. It seems the Amash family are big importers

There is a political twist to this - so some 'dirt' is starting to come out. Allegations that all the Tekton Tools are made in China and then imported into the US. Pics of shipping records, etc, visits by Chinese Officials. (take it with a grain of salt)

Note the shipping records from earlier this year

Ugh, there's been a handful of Tekton threads all closed the last couple days because of all this political BS.

Also not sure what this proves. Some of their tools they list COO as China, others Taiwan. It's no secret. Even they admit only about 15% is made in USA.
 

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There is a political twist to this - so some 'dirt' is starting to come out. Allegations that all the Tekton Tools are made in China and then imported into the US. Pics of shipping records, etc, visits by Chinese Officials. (take it with a grain of salt)

Note the shipping records from earlier this year

I'm admittedly not Tektons biggest fan in part because many of their tools havent been around long enough, so any long term durability issues are overlooked or not considered when people talk them up to be the next best thing. That said, where is it rumored all of their tools are coming from China? Those records could and probably are just a portion of their overall tools, which Dave mentioned elsewhere was about 10% of total product. No?
 

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i have been saying that they have been less than forthcoming all along. i really have nothing against tekton but tekton is nothing more than the new mit. hell it's still mit. and let me tell ya mit is nothing to brag about. all i asked for was examples of how their hands on involvement was making their tools better and i got crickets. i asked where the usa made stuff was made and i got crickets.

if you have had good luck with them, great. if you like them great but there is some reason they don't want to answer questions.

I'm still not sure what specifically you're looking for Tekton to tell you. What could they say that would satisfy you?

What makes a Snap On ratchet the best? I want specifics of what they do to make them better than whoever else.
 

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Ugh, there's been a handful of Tekton threads all closed the last couple days because of all this political BS.

Also not sure what this proves. Some of their tools they list COO as China, others Taiwan. It's no secret. Even they admit only about 15% is made in USA.

Nothing is going to satisfy him.
 

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Ugh, there's been a handful of Tekton threads all closed the last couple days because of all this political BS.

Also not sure what this proves. Some of their tools they list COO as China, others Taiwan. It's no secret. Even they admit only about 15% is made in USA.

I will have to admit - I haven't really been following any 'Tekton' threads that closely to know what is going on.

I happened to read something on another site, saw a Tekton thread on this site that caught my eye after what I had read elsewhere. It looks like there were some questions about where Tekton tools were made and I was just sharing the info... Draw your own conclusions.

Again, if the people buying Tekton tools are happy with their purchases, that is all that really matters.
 

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I will have to admit - I haven't really been following any 'Tekton' threads that closely to know what is going on.

I happened to read something on another site, saw a Tekton thread on this site that caught my eye after what I had read elsewhere. It looks like there were some questions about where Tekton tools were made and I was just sharing the info... Draw your own conclusions.

Again, if the people buying Tekton tools are happy with their purchases, that is all that really matters.

There was a previous thread where Dave from Tekton made a very informative post where he quoted something like 15% US, 10% China, and 75% Taiwan made for their tools (not completely sure on those figures but it was in that ballpark). COO is clearly specified for each tool on their website.

He also said they don't have their own manufacturing facilities, but different tools they have designed, patented, and have set up supply chains for. So although they don't necessarily have their own factory, in a lot of cases their tools aren't just re-badged copies. They go to vendor 1 for process 1, then to vendor 2 for process 2, then vendor 3 for finishing, all based on their specs. In other cases though they are more of a straight re-badged (like pry bars supplied by Wilde I believe).

The amount of straight rebranded cheap foreign stuff has dropped dramatically. Sounds like they are definitely pushing in the right direction and innovating, and far from just another random importer.
 

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I'm still not sure what specifically you're looking for Tekton to tell you. What could they say that would satisfy you?

What makes a Snap On ratchet the best? I want specifics of what they do to make them better than whoever else.

who said a snap-on ratchet is best? there is no best ratchet and i personally don't care for my snap-on ratchets. however,it is pretty common knowledge that they would tell you their tooth count, where it is made. what kind of torque it is able to take before failing and any number of other specifics. even the town it is made in.

tekton is telling everyone that they are designing, over seeing and making improvement compared to other tools and doing it locally. even the usa sourced ones. i asked what improvements they are making compared to other tools. what was his answer? couldn't tell me.

what would satisfy me? i don't know, maybe an honest answer. dave wouldn't give it for one tool.

let's use the tekton combination plier. he would lead us to believe that under their supervision it is better than the wilde branded version. how? are the teeth sharper? are the handles a different shape, a different handle material, different metal. how about just saying what state it was made in? nope, nothing.

how about this local testing and improving, where are they doing it? who is doing it? how are they doing it? how are they implementing it into a factory on the other side of the world?

my gut feeling? almost every tool they make has an identical twin someplace else in the world and there is absolutely nothing different about it. all of the hype about the tekton difference is just that hype. the only exception being the angle wrenches and i still can't figure out why they would start with them.

if i am proven wrong i will admit it but i doubt we will get a straight answer.

i am not saying they don't offer service or that they are a bad tool. i just think there is more to the story that.
 
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who said a snap-on ratchet is best? there is no best ratchet and i personally don't care for my snap-on ratchets. however,it is pretty common knowledge that they would tell you their tooth count, where it is made. what kind of torque it is able to take before failing and any number of other specifics. even the town it is made in.

tekton is telling everyone that they are designing, over seeing and making improvement compared to other tools and doing it locally. even the usa sourced ones. i asked what improvements they are making compared to other tools. what was his answer? couldn't tell me.

what would satisfy me? i don't know, maybe an honest answer. dave wouldn't give it for one tool.

let's use the tekton combination plier. he would lead us to believe that under their supervision it is better than the wilde branded version. how? are the teeth sharper? are the handles a different shape, a different handle material, different metal. how about just saying what state it was made in? nope, nothing.

how about this local testing and improving, where are they doing it? who is doing it? how are they doing it? how are they implementing it into a factory on the other side of the world?

my gut feeling? almost every tool they make has an identical twin someplace else in the world and there is absolutely nothing different about it. all of the hype about the tekton difference is just that hype. the only exception being the angle wrenches and i still can't figure out why they would start with them.

if i am proven wrong i will admit it but i doubt we will get a straight answer.

i am not saying they don't offer service or that they are a bad tool. i just think there is more to the story that.

My point wasn't that Snap On is the best ratchet, it's that you don't know any of the info you're pressing Tekton for from any other manufacturers. Tooth count? That is published info for any ratchet no matter who makes it; Tekton's latest offerings are 90T. What city they're made? Maybe I'll make a post asking Snap On what city their ratchets are made and we'll see if and when a SO rep will reply to me. The torque they're rated for? That is also clearly published on Tekton's website as well.

If I can answer your questions in 30 seconds of web browsing you could do the same. If it would really make you feel better to know which city in Taiwan the ratchets are manufactured then you are much more detail oriented than me - I'd say that's a bit irrelevant.

If you're "gut feeling" is every tool has a twin somewhere in the world then name the twin of their ratchets. Or screwdrivers. If all you have is baseless guesses then I could just as easily say you have a twin somewhere else in the world. Doesn't make it true or any more likely.

Your Wilde plier example is also either dishonest or just jaded. You have the advantage of the old thread being gone so the proof is gone, but Dave openly up admitted there was very little difference from the OE Wilde designs in their pliers and pry bars. In those cases they felt the Made in US Wilde design was plenty good enough. Where you're trying to make this strawman that they have claimed they have stronger teeth or something I have no idea.

My main point though is this standard you'd like to hold Tekton to, I highly doubt you know any of that info for the tools you've already purchased. I'm sure you've bought plenty of tools based on good reviews, word of mouth, etc, and it seems to just be this personal crusade against Tekton that has you so interested in benign specifics like what city each tool is built in.
 

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who said a snap-on ratchet is best? there is no best ratchet and i personally don't care for my snap-on ratchets. however,it is pretty common knowledge that they would tell you their tooth count, where it is made. what kind of torque it is able to take before failing and any number of other specifics. even the town it is made in.

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All found here...
https://www.tekton.com/ratchets

Is that enough specifics for you? Perhaps the Rockwell hardness of the pawl spring as well? Chemistry of the handle's chrome plating?



my gut feeling? almost every tool they make has an identical twin someplace else in the world and there is absolutely nothing different about it. all of the hype about the tekton difference is just that hype.

Well since some of their tools hold patents, those imaginary identical tools would be illegal.


And really? You want the city in Taiwan where they're manufactured? LMAO
 
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My gut feeling? almost every tool they make has an identical twin someplace else in the world and there is absolutely nothing different about it. all of the hype about the tekton difference is just that hype. the only exception being the angle wrenches and i still can't figure out why they would start with them.

if i am proven wrong i will admit it but i doubt we will get a straight answer.

i am not saying they don't offer service or that they are a bad tool. i just think there is more to the story that.

Before I go wrapping my head in aluminium foil to protect myself from tool conspiracies, let's look at some other Tekton tools that are unique and to the best of my knowledge don't have clones under different brands. First, their trilobal screwdrivers & nut drivers. I could be wrong but, i don't think that handle is sold by anyone else. I really think it is exclusive to Tekton. It's also a pretty nicely shaped handle too. Next up would be there 90 tooth ratchet series. Previously, the generic 72 tooth ratchets hawked by Tekton could have been made by anyone and you could get the same ratchet under many different brands. However, I haven't been able to match the Tekton 90 tooth ratchet internals to any other brand yet. I'm still looking though. I also haven't seen the Tekton 90 tooth ratchet handle shared by anyone else. It's nice ratchet handle too. there's actually some meat and length to the handle section.The upper recess creates a natural resting spot for your thumb & index finger. Lastly, Tekton's ratcheting wrenches are unique. While the rest of the world shifted to spline boxed ends, Tekton chose six point boxed ends. Not only that but you can get double flexible boxed end sets in two different lengths. I don't know of anyone else that offers those. You already mentioned the angle wrenches and I can't really to write about them because, i don't own any Tekton angle wrenches.
I'm happy just to be able to purchase and use my Tekton tools and I'm not spending time looking for the man behind the curtain :lol: :beer:
 
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I have Tekton tools. They work and I couldn't be happier. Best part is I am not shopping for more.
 

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Is that enough specifics for you? Perhaps the Rockwell hardness of the pawl spring as well? Chemistry of the handle's chrome plating?





Well since some of their tools hold patents, those imaginary identical tools would be illegal.


And really? You want the city in Taiwan where they're manufactured? LMAO

Your sig line is perfect for this thread.
 

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Some sounded like Tekton boosters. No wonder everytime when Tekton is mentioned, the thread turns into no substance shouting match that got deleted by mods.

I'm quite familiar with the brand, have seen/touched them for a long time (more than 10 years). Somehow, I have yet bought 1 piece of Tekton product. Why? Absolutely not because I have anything against Tekton (why would anyone do that?), but because I always found something similar or better at better prices.
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In the picture is a 8 piece metric 10,11,12,13,14,15,17,19mm 3/8" deep socket set. It was purchased at Mernards about 15 years ago. The sockets have no brand name stamped on them, Made in Taiwan. Mernard's was selling them under their low end "Tool Shop" brand (their "higher" end brand is "MasterForce"). I paid ~$8 for the set (regular price). They hold up fine after all these years.
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Now this picture is Tekton 1240, can you see a similarity? Is there a possibility that Tekton source the sockets from the same factory?

I'm surprised that on a tool forum like GJ, there are still people consider 90 tooth ratchet a big deal. Wow! like you guys never go to stores to see what's available out there. I have 2 Carlyle 90 tooth, no noticeable difference from a 72. There are 120xp, 100 tooth from Homedepot and Lowes... everyone seems to offer a 90+ tooth ratchet.

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This Titan set has the single paw 90 tooth ratcheting, and they were on the market earlier than Tekton.

The use of cheaper CR-V steel in impact sockets is a telling sign of Tekton's quality level, because there is no professional grade tool brands offering CR-V impact sockets.

In this thread, someone spent $50 for Tekton's CR-V impact 3/8" sockets. CR-V impact sockets should be very cheap. I paid $10 for this NorthernTool CR-V set:
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The sockets are of decent quality with sizes stamped and large laser itched markings. Tekton's only has laser markings, no stamping (one less step in manufacturing).

To me, Tekton is a good deal at 50% off. Full price? not so much.
Tekton is special because they offer no skipping socket sets. What else? Please school me.
 

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Nothing wrong with crv in impacts, grade of material, forging method and treatment specifics the big player on good crv impact, plenty brands use crv and I use only crv (daily auto and light farm/construction machinary) as most modern crmo too soft and reason it used a lot by big names is for liability precautions mainly .
Main reason crv got bad name for impacts is the cheap made cheap design 15 buck sets.
Having said that I don't like the tekton impact socket design, way better impact sockets in crv available from japan style and laser for same/less money .
35 bucks can buy decent pro design sockets that last daily use better than most truck current crmo.

My MAC crmo set been swapped out and sold on as useless and complete wasted money.
I only buy tools based on design I find best use and have zero interest in life warranty on basic handtools (self warranty best warranty you can get) so Tekton warranty no appeal to me .
Like any tool brand they got some items that price/design pretty good, main reasons popular is easy warranty as so many obsessed on that and easy source tools either locally or online .
 
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In the picture is a 8 piece metric 10,11,12,13,14,15,17,19mm 3/8" deep socket set. It was purchased at Mernards about 15 years ago. The sockets have no brand name stamped on them, Made in Taiwan. Mernard's was selling them under their low end "Tool Shop" brand (their "higher" end brand is "MasterForce"). I paid ~$8 for the set (regular price). They hold up fine after all these years.
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Now this picture is Tekton 1240, can you see a similarity? Is there a possibility that Tekton source the sockets from the same factory?

As has been discussed before, a lot of your comparisons are old Tekton products. There's a reason your picture above is linked from Amazon - because it's old stock. That set is nowhere to be found on Tekton's website. When I search their page for Item #1240, the set below comes up. Which is redesigned, like all of their sockets. Now with smaller sizes fully necked down, and off-corner engagement like all of the higher end brands are doing now.

Were the old sockets and tools just a straight re-brand / import? Yes. Can you find similar sockets in the world to the new ones? I'm not sure, maybe. But the features you get on the new ones are greatly improved from the old ones, and they're $32 with free shipping. I'm sure you could find a cheaper set of 8mm-19mm sockets at the grocery store that are also made of a similarly shiny material, but the value there is certainly debatable.

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https://www.tekton.com/3-8-in-dr-dp-6-pt-skt-sets-5-16-3-4-in-8-19-mm?set-range=8-19-mm

I'm surprised that on a tool forum like GJ, there are still people consider 90 tooth ratchet a big deal. Wow! like you guys never go to stores to see what's available out there. I have 2 Carlyle 90 tooth, no noticeable difference from a 72. There are 120xp, 100 tooth from Homedepot and Lowes... everyone seems to offer a 90+ tooth ratchet.

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This Titan set has the single paw 90 tooth ratcheting, and they were on the market earlier than Tekton.

This is another strawman that is getting tired. I don't think anyone is saying Tekton is doing anything "special" by offering 90 tooth ratchets. The statement is "their 90T ratchets are good quality and value", not "their ratchets are good because they have 90 teeth". I don't think that's ever been said. I can get a 168 tooth Pro Point ratchet from Princess Auto locally, doesn't mean it's 'better'.

The Tekton ratchet supporters have never said it's because of how many teeth they have, or that it's some kind of advantage for them, so I don't know why you keep harping on that.

Like everything they sell, it's not about saying they are absolutely the best, just that they are a good value. Which of course is subjective. But you can buy a 1/4" flex head Tekton 90T design for $20 shipped, which is cheaper than I can find either GearWrench 84T or 120XP online, and cheaper than I can get those Titan ratchets you linked (which are sold local to me at Princess Auto). There are no doubt cheaper ratchets out there, and no doubt better quality ones, but a lot of people like the Tekton's because of the value they provide. They seem very similar in quality to the GW, but they are both cheaper and have a much more hassle-free warranty, should you have issues.


The use of cheaper CR-V steel in impact sockets is a telling sign of Tekton's quality level, because there is no professional grade tool brands offering CR-V impact sockets.

In this thread, someone spent $50 for Tekton's CR-V impact 3/8" sockets. CR-V impact sockets should be very cheap. I paid $10 for this NorthernTool CR-V set:
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The sockets are of decent quality with sizes stamped and large laser itched markings. Tekton's only has laser markings, no stamping (one less step in manufacturing).

To me, Tekton is a good deal at 50% off. Full price? not so much.
Tekton is special because they offer no skipping socket sets. What else? Please school me.

For starters, the whole CR-V vs CR-Mo argument has more to it than simply CR-Mo is better and that's why it's used in higher end tools. There are pros and cons to both. CR-Mo is softer and more shatter resistant, but also will wear out faster. There are also different grades of both. Saying any CR-V socket set should cost the same because it's the same material is misleading. That's like saying Snap On makes their ratchets of the same base material as Tekton so they should sell their ratchets for the same price. It doesn't mean the materials are equal.

That set you linked from Northern Tool as comparison of a $10 set versus a $50 Tekton set is also nearly impossible to do a proper comparison on. Your set only has 8 sizes in shallow and 8 in deep and skips a whole lot of sizes. Tekton doesn't skip sizes, and their comparable 3/8 impact set has 38 pcs. Or if you buy separate the shallow and deep, they are 13 pcs each, for 26 pcs total. And you're comparing to a 16 pc set missing half the sizes. Kind of apples to oranges.

It's perfectly fine if you think there are better quality tools or better value tools out there. But I don't see the reason to continue to talk negatively about a company when none of the arguments seem to be valid or genuine.
 

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Nothing wrong with crv in impacts, grade of material, forging method and treatment specifics the big player on good crv impact, plenty brands use crv and I use only crv (daily auto and light farm/construction machinary) as most modern crmo too soft and reason it used a lot by big names is for liability precautions mainly .
Main reason crv got bad name for impacts is the cheap made cheap design 15 buck sets.
Having said that I don't like the tekton impact socket design, way better impact sockets in crv available from japan style and laser for same/less money .
35 bucks can buy decent pro design sockets that last daily use better than most truck current crmo.

My MAC crmo set been swapped out and sold on as useless and complete wasted money.
I only buy tools based on design I find best use and have zero interest in life warranty on basic handtools (self warranty best warranty you can get) so Tekton warranty no appeal to me .
Like any tool brand they got some items that price/design pretty good, main reasons popular is easy warranty as so many obsessed on that and easy source tools either locally or online .

What brand sockets is that you have pictured? Are they the Japanese ones you're talking about?
 

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Japan style made in taiwan crv . if look close you'll see roll stamped 'Japan Style'
Can be found under laser brand in europe or online unbranded or japan style branded .
Best impact sockets I bought in recent years, last well and cheap enough self warranty.
I bought 3 sets of shallow and deep via ebay using a voucher that saved another 15%
I use a set, my lad has a set and I got spares on the store shelf all for lot less than my mac set .
Not broke one yet and they get beat hard on decent modern impact wrenches at 120psi dynamic air supply .
Drive squares don't wallow bad lke modern crmo and design and overall finish including storage box all very good effort .
nice design, nice roll stamping and decent deep black satin/matt finish that don't wear off like real cheap phosphate finish sockets .
 
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i have stated my questions several times and actually many of you have fed me ggo material to make my case.

i have never made a political comment about tekton.

i have actually said they have done some good things.

i have been polite and respectful to people including dave.

i have only asked questions.

what have i gotten? fan boys who run cover for tekton/dave. posting up all the info he could have offered or answered allowing us better insight into how tekton works. people accusing me of having some sort of agenda or having it in for tekton.

my point is this. i think tekton is no more than a shill for mit and that is all hyped right now as the latest brand like so many more that have come and gone. it may get better, it may not but being owned by mit is a huge concern for me.

in the past i have had connections with company guys from irwin-vice grip, montezuma, triangle and others. i have done hands on for them and put things through their paces. maybe a little disappointing to me is fedwrench getting on me. he has known me for years and is a great source of knowledge and should know that i share a lot of his quest for knowledge on things tool related.

in the end all i have done is ask dave and tekton questions. i may have gotten answers from others but not them. what i got from them was almost nothing and or i can't tell you.

you would think there is nothing wrong with asking questions about tools in a tool discussion area, unless you are a fanboy of tekton i suppose. it's pretty easy to tell who they are.
 

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i have stated my questions several times and actually many of you have fed me ggo material to make my case.

i have never made a political comment about tekton.

i have actually said they have done some good things.

i have been polite and respectful to people including dave.

i have only asked questions.

what have i gotten? fan boys who run cover for tekton/dave. posting up all the info he could have offered or answered allowing us better insight into how tekton works. people accusing me of having some sort of agenda or having it in for tekton.

my point is this. i think tekton is no more than a shill for mit and that is all hyped right now as the latest brand like so many more that have come and gone. it may get better, it may not but being owned by mit is a huge concern for me.

in the past i have had connections with company guys from irwin-vice grip, montezuma, triangle and others. i have done hands on for them and put things through their paces. maybe a little disappointing to me is fedwrench getting on me. he has known me for years and is a great source of knowledge and should know that i share a lot of his quest for knowledge on things tool related.

in the end all i have done is ask dave and tekton questions. i may have gotten answers from others but not them. what i got from them was almost nothing and or i can't tell you.

you would think there is nothing wrong with asking questions about tools in a tool discussion area, unless you are a fanboy of tekton i suppose. it's pretty easy to tell who they are.

I'm not sure people are exactly "getting on you". If anything people are answering your questions factually. Most of your questions have clear answers right on Tekton's website, which other users linked for you. Why does a company rep have to spoon feed easy answers like how many teeth are in the ratchets when you could have found the info yourself in 5 seconds?

You can ask all the questions you want of Dave and/or Tekton, but I'm sure they're not interested in getting into some kind of internet ******* contest either. They're one of the only tool companies that even has a presence on here at all, so not sure why it should be expected that they have full and detailed responses to every Tekton related question. He gave some pretty good answers and info in the previous thread and that was met with "not good enough".

I guess when you're all out of reasonable and logical discussion just resort to calling everyone "fanboys" and dismissing it.
 

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My only gripe is that I’ll probably never wear out my Older style socket sets to jusitfy picking up their newest designs.

This is the simple and poetic reality for each and everyone of the Brand Vs. Brand thread arguments that inevitably spiral into existence.
 

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just seems like sk farmer is awfully hard on Tekton for whatever "sins" of some past life. Who cares what tools they produced years ago. Their value proposition *today* is compelling enough that I looked at some of their stuff and bought an item.

given the marketplace we all live in, isn't it a good thing that companies try to up their game.
 

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Well you can say whatever you want but you seem to be entrenched in you opinion of tekton. No matter what. Just because an answer is good enough for you i dont have to agree. The exa.ples i gave were just examples of tbings he could have said, specifics. Instrad he offered nothng specific.i could have searched those things out and many i did.

Maybe you guys should form a committee and come with a set or rules that tell us what questions are ok and which ones not allowed or maybe you should just do it yourself so noone asks a questjon you dont aapprove of.
 

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Well you can say whatever you want but you seem to be entrenched in you opinion of tekton. No matter what. Just because an answer is good enough for you i dont have to agree. The exa.ples i gave were just examples of tbings he could have said, specifics. Instrad he offered nothng specific.i could have searched those things out and many i did.

Maybe you guys should form a committee and come with a set or rules that tell us what questions are ok and which ones not allowed or maybe you should just do it yourself so noone asks a questjon you dont aapprove of.

Questions are fine, But with 30 seconds of searching the net you could have found the answers yourself.

Dave has answered many questions here. But like others said, apparently not to your satisfaction.

Looking at other tool websites, it seems to me that Tekton offers more specific info about their tools than just about any other tool site (S-o, SK, Proto, Cornwell, GW, Mac, Matco...). But still not good enough for you.

I'm sure Dave has better things to do than be your personal CS rep.

We get it, you hate MIT. Fine, whatever. Do what you've been doing and vote with your wallet.
 
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Quit saying stuff i didnt say and quit making excuses for dave. I actually used an mit socket yesterday If dave doesnt want to answer that is his decison and not yours to make for him. But maybe being the offical tekton fanboy makes it your job
 

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Quit saying stuff i didnt say and quit making excuses for dave. I actually used an mit socket yesterday If dave doesnt want to answer that is his decison and not yours to make for him. But maybe being the offical tekton fanboy makes it your job

Jesus dude give it a rest
 

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Quit saying stuff i didnt say and quit making excuses for dave. I actually used an mit socket yesterday If dave doesnt want to answer that is his decison and not yours to make for him. But maybe being the offical tekton fanboy makes it your job

Ummm, what?

I'm a fanboy huh? I own exactly 2 Tekton tools. Their flip socket set and a breaker bar, both bought several years ago. I have bought some Tekton wrench and socket sets as gifts for family members though. Also, in other threads I've expressed my disappointment in some Tekton tools, most recently their rollout of the redesigned sockets. Hardly a fanboy.

That doesn't stop me from giving credit where credit is due, and calling out whiney complainers about (IMO) crazy ****.
 
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Well you can say whatever you want but you seem to be entrenched in you opinion of tekton. No matter what. Just because an answer is good enough for you i dont have to agree. The exa.ples i gave were just examples of tbings he could have said, specifics. Instrad he offered nothng specific.i could have searched those things out and many i did.

Maybe you guys should form a committee and come with a set or rules that tell us what questions are ok and which ones not allowed or maybe you should just do it yourself so noone asks a questjon you dont aapprove of.

The information is out there, all you have to do is search for it.

I also never saw anything that said they were manufacturing tools themselves so im a little confused as to where that came from :headscrat.

Everyone is entitled to ask questions here, but don't get sideways when no one has an answer or if its proprietary information. Dave probably doesn't know the name and age of the Taiwanese kid who dipped your wrench in chrome plating. Im not a fanboy but I dont understand why there is a need to know every little detail about a reasonably price tool. I might inquire if it was something expensive but Tekton is not.

Also Tekton is not pulled from thin air- /'tek·ton/
A carpenter, artisan, craftsman, or master of any craft.
 
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Looking at other tool websites, it seems to me that Tekton offers more specific info about their tools than just about any other tool site (S-o, SK, Proto, Cornwell, GW, Mac, Matco...). But still not good enough for you.

This is what I don't get. The Tekton website actually has an enormous amount of information on it, more than you can find on most other tool manufacturer's sites. Go to one of their ratchet pages and it shows charts comparing their torque tests versus ANSI standards, exploded views of the ratchet internals, animated pictures of the ratchet's internals working, detailed dimensions with call-outs for every dimension you can measure on it, etc. COO clearly stated, detailed write-ups on how its built, and easy to see info on what different options / types / lengths they offer.

Not to pick on anyone in particular, but just checking out both SK's and Proto's websites, if I click on any of their ratchets I get only the most basic of information. Maybe 5-6 bullet points stating generic information. SK doesn't even say how many teeth it has! They both state overall length of the ratchet but don't show whether that's measured the full length or the actual working length. Zero mention of torque testing or capabilities.

My point isn't to trash talk SK or Proto or any other company, but more to point out that the idea that Tekton is somehow hiding is misrepresenting their products is crazy! They have significantly more information and detail on their website than anyone else cares to share.
 
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