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The last 2 Techs we have hired from the local Tech school have came in with TEKTON tools.. I guess they were switced from Blue Point as the tools that are included in their tuition. They get the same 30% discount.. Their cheaper ratchets i think are the same as Harbor Freight...but the rest of the line is surprizingly decent.. The offshore stuff keeps getting better...?? And the kids are getting wiser with their money..?
 
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The last 2 Techs we have hired from the local Tech school have came in with TEKTON tools.. I guess they were switced from Blue Point as the tools that are included in their tuition. They get the same 30% discount.. Their cheaper ratchets i think are the same as Harbor Freight...but the rest of the line is surprizingly decent.. The offshore stuff keeps getting better...?? And the kids are getting wiser with their money..?

The offshore stuff keeps getting better...??

It sure does. I'm amazed myself how much these tools have improved.


And the kids are getting wiser with their money..?

I hope so. They should be starting out like that and upgrade as needed.
 

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Nothing wrong w that. Nothing wrong w starting out inexpensive, can always move up as needed.

Competition is always good for the consumer, maybe the tool trucks will take notice & start offering even better deals for students.

But no reason to come out of tech school w tuition debt and tool debt.
 
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I certainly hope so!!!

Lol... they are...They both came in with Crapsman boxes. One of them has upgraded to a bigger NAPA..(Homak) BOX he bought with the shops 20% discount..and they both have Carlyle ratchets now that was covered by the County tool allowance.. Plus anything they don't have yet..the old timers don't mind loaning them until they can save up...
 

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I don't understand Blue Point. I don't agree with the America is great I only buy American to support American crowd, but I at least understand them. Blue Point used to be the second line tools for Snappy, but when they switched to the import line of Snappy, why would anyone continue to buy them. Why pay 3x the price for import tools b/c they are loosely associated with the expensive tool truck?

I sort of understand the tool truck thing. At least back in the day before the internet it was a good service. Now the tool truck comes around once a week. Amazon delivers in two days or less then 24 hours if I am in a rush and willing to pay for it.

If I was a mechanic I would definitely be rocking gear wrench, HF, and TEKTON with maybe three or four Snappy pieces.
 

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mudflap :: Thanks for sharing. It's great to see opportunities presenting themselves in this world for the younger generation. The U.S. economy has been improving (along with employment and wages), but entering the workforce today is tough. I'm sure tools imported into the U.S. will continue to improve in quality, while at a price that is affordable.
 

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Blue point is the competition for mac matco and cornwell those are pretty level playing fields with the exception of a few USA matco mac and cornwell items they keep in their catalog


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I'm buying tools for my son in school for auto mechanics. I got him Snap On wrenches and all his 3/8 sockets. The rest is Sunex, HF, Husky. His box is the bottom 44" from HF.
 

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I like Tekton tools -- nothing wrong with them at all. These people who put together these sets for tech schools ought to cherry pick the best bang for the buck -- HF US General boxes, HF breaker bars, Snappy this, SK that, GW this, etc.. But I guess they probably get a better deal by going with one brand for the whole shebang.
 
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I have no complaint with my Tekton wrenches. Haven't broken or bent one yet.

They are really pretty good wrenches, nice machine work, good chrome....and at $49.99 for the big set of longs, with no skips... Its hard to say much..? The TEKTON sockets seem to do well with daily use too...? And the warranty is kinda too good to be true..you just fill out a form on their website , and tell them about what broke..and u have a new one in 2 days..don't know how long that will last...but they sure do make it easy to get along with them..
 

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The local Family, Farm & Home store carries the full line of Tekton, and they often have a "buy 1 tool, get the 2nd for half off" sale.
 
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I'm buying tools for my son in school for auto mechanics. I got him Snap On wrenches and all his 3/8 sockets. The rest is Sunex, HF, Husky. His box is the bottom 44" from HF.

Is he specializing in anything ASE Diesel, Hydraulics, etc..? ASE Diesel techs are in big demand right now..They all have jobs before they graduate..especially if their willing to re locate.. We lost our first 2 pics to a firm that contracts maintenance on the big Diesel generators that power the cranes at the port of Los Angeles..$60,000 to start.. Freightliner, and International dealerships are scooping up the rest..Had 2 go to a cruise line.. We pay off their student loans if they stay with us min 2 yrs to sweeten the pot....but its still tough..
 

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I recently bought a set of TEKTON wrenches, planning to use them for one job. I unpacked them, used them, and I have to say that I was really impressed.

They are a good value for the money
 

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I would be completely turned off by any school dictating what brand tools I had to buy. Offer a complete setup for the lazy who probably won't stick around anyway? Sure. Have a required tool list? Sure. But not make me buy worse than I already have or could find better of for less.
 

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I recently bought a set of TEKTON wrenches, planning to use them for one job. I unpacked them, used them, and I have to say that I was really impressed.

They are a good value for the money

I've got them too, the bigger metric set and I like them a lot. I'd absolutely recommend them.
 
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I would be completely turned off by any school dictating what brand tools I had to buy. Offer a complete setup for the lazy who probably won't stick around anyway? Sure. Have a required tool list? Sure. But not make me buy worse than I already have or could find better of for less.

Thats how all the tech schools we work with are...The cost of the tool set is built into the tuition.. and issued to them..They don't go out and buy them.. I guess so they know on day one every student has the minimum to get started without any drama...?
 

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Thats how all the tech schools we work with are...The cost of the tool set is built into the tuition.. and issued to them..They don't go out and buy them.. I guess so they know on day one every student has the minimum to get started without any drama...?

That *****, around here the dealers come to the school and offer about 50% off. If you are looking for a project you can get about any brand you like. If you want cheap tools you can buy them at harbor fright or amazon or whatever you like.
 
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Thats how all the tech schools we work with are...The cost of the tool set is built into the tuition.. and issued to them..They don't go out and buy them.. I guess so they know on day one every student has the minimum to get started without any drama...?

I can see that honestly. When I was in school for machine shop they required an absolute minimum and even then kids didn't have their ****. It was really ridiculous, always trying to borrow something or just looking around like "have you seen my baseball?"

Like I said, they required VERY LITTLE. They tried to provide end mills but they were, of course, always trashed. And there was a community set of parallels even.

I bought everything I possibly could. I was by far the best tooled there, and I excelled at my projects as a result.
 

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I have a kid who is going to need a job, soon. which tech schools are these? He's already open to moving out of the area.

have him learn the power generation side, trucking market went flat and our company layed a lot of guys off but myself and all the other power generation techs stayed busy. Look at universal Technical Institute in Phoenix az that is where almost all the shop technicians at our branch came from. They like to hire them b/c they come out of that school with Cummins certification and I thing they offer a Cummins Power Generation side. I work for Cummins as a Power Generation Technicain but am cross trained on over the road engine repairs
 

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Tekton ratchets and sockets are HF quality without missing sizes but not quite up to Gearwrench , Husky, Kobalts best offerings.
most Tekton wrenches are much better than HF possibly equal or better than the big box but not Gearwench. this is not absolute as quality varies from line items and as they shift more production across the Taiwan Straight.
 

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Tekton ratchets and sockets are HF quality without missing sizes but not quite up to Gearwrench , Husky, Kobalts best offerings.
most Tekton wrenches are much better than HF possibly equal or better than the big box but not Gearwench. this is not absolute as quality varies from line items and as they shift more production across the Taiwan Straight.

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You realize Tekton's ratchets are the same as Kobalt's? And Harbor Freight's 72T ratchets are also the same mechanism. This is why I laugh when people rag on how bad HF is, but then say Kobalt is much better. It's literally the same ratchet design and/or mechanism (depending on which one you buy). That 72T Taiwan mechanism is used by countless tool companies because it is simple, smooth, strong, and reliable. It's not the strongest ratchet out there (generally only 140% of ASME torque), but that's still good (500 ft-lbs of torque in 1/2 drive).

Sockets from Tekton are also probably either the same thing or made to a comparable standard to Gearwrench's and Kobalt's Taiwan sockets. Husky sockets are Apex China, which is below Kobalt or Gearwrench IMHO. Same as Craftsman China and just not that great. If Husky still has the double detents like Craftsman, those are the absolute worst.

Tekton wrenches are also suspiciously similar to Gearwrench's Taiwan made static wrenches (non ratcheting). Doubt they are too different, if at all (the newer combination sets from Tekton, as of two or three years ago, are Taiwan made, no longer China).

Same thing for the ratcheting wrenches. Tekton's are made in Taiwan and could be made by the same OEM that makes Taiwan Gearwrench, or a comparable Taiwan competitor. The 72T ratcheting wrenches certainly use the same mechanism.

As far as I'm aware, Apex owns no plants in Taiwan. They contract out for much of their Taiwan made stuff, which means it's also being made for other companies unless it is copy righted (120XP). Thus, I would bet good money a fair amount of Tekton and Geawrench is made in the same factory or by another comparable competitor to whatever Apex is using (depending on the item). Apex does own plants in China though (at least 2), but I've never been impressed by the products coming out of those.

Tekton also has their USA pliers and Punches/Chisels going for them. Their USA screwdrivers are long lasting, but I'm not the biggest fan of the non symmetrical grip (they're really comfortable if you can make the turns at only a third of a whole each time so that your hand lines up with the grip properly).
 

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There ain't a damn thing wrong with Tekton tools...

For the money...

They're just fine...

And they have a killer warranty and fantastic customer service...

I bought a bunch of stuff two years ago, when Amazon ran their $15.00 off $50.00 sale (30% discount!!!)
 

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You realize Tekton's ratchets are the same as Kobalt's?).

no Kobalts are 90T:bounce:
The same mechanism doesnt always mean it's the same tool! Besides that they all copy S-O handle design, does that mean they come from the same place.. no way. All those guys do is copy one another. One factory makes handles/sockets, another makes gears another makes levers / plastic do dads IMO it's all an incestuous mix up. You look across the range that Tekton offers and they have some decent sets and crappy sets like here, just like HF. While the big box and Gearwrench offer just one quality tier. Do a image search of "Tekton +ratchets" and you'll see some of the same HF products.
Sockets from Tekton are also probably either the same thing or made to a comparable standard to Gearwrench's and Kobalt's Taiwan sockets. Husky sockets are Apex China, which is below Kobalt or Gearwrench IMHO. Same as Craftsman China and just not that great. If Husky still has the double detents like Craftsman, those are the absolute worst
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probably not:headscrat


Tekton wrenches are also suspiciously similar to Gearwrench's Taiwan made static wrenches (non ratcheting). Doubt they are too different, if at all (the newer combination sets from Tekton, as of two or three years ago, are Taiwan made, no longer China).

Same thing for the ratcheting wrenches. Tekton's are made in Taiwan and could be made by the same OEM that makes Taiwan Gearwrench, or a comparable Taiwan competitor. The 72T ratcheting wrenches certainly use the same mechanism.

As far as I'm aware, Apex owns no plants in Taiwan. They contract out for much of their Taiwan made stuff, which means it's also being made for other companies unless it is copy righted (120XP). Thus, I would bet good money a fair amount of Tekton and Geawrench is made in the same factory or by another comparable competitor to whatever Apex is using (depending on the item). Apex does own plants in China though (at least 2), but I've never been impressed by the products coming out of those.
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AFAIK Apex doesn't own the hand tool factories in China. Yes APEX China is Power tools and SATA is just another tool brand ( Chinese w Euro design ) Yer right they contract out for most of the individual pieces and act as essentially a huge design / distribution group.Much as HP /DELL is to computers, APEX is tools. HP doesn't make hardly any of the PC components neither does APEX run the foundries making sockets or wrenches! I suspect the Taiwanese OEMs are setting up and the running most of the tool factories in PRC, similar infact to how their electronics operations PCB fab , assembly, testing for ATX Motherboards, Power Supplies, Videocards, Printers and other microelectronic component assemblies are set up and run. Your other statements are pretty much in agreement with the main thrust of my post. Of course if you cherry pick from with each brands tool category you can find exceptions and also similarities. Therefore I'm not at all convinced that Taiwan is automatically better than PRC esp as the product lines & QC mature. !
 
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have him learn the power generation side, trucking market went flat and our company layed a lot of guys off but myself and all the other power generation techs stayed busy. Look at universal Technical Institute in Phoenix az that is where almost all the shop technicians at our branch came from. They like to hire them b/c they come out of that school with Cummins certification and I thing they offer a Cummins Power Generation side. I work for Cummins as a Power Generation Technicain but am cross trained on over the road engine repairs

Thanks for the advise. I'll pass it on
 

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I have a kid who is going to need a job, soon. which tech schools are these? He's already open to moving out of the area.

If he has a strong work ethic have and not afraid of heights plenty of work as electrical lineman working on powerlines. Just need a class A license. You start off as a grunt and work your way up. Go the local ibew outside construction hall and sign the books as a groundman. That puts you on a list when a contractor needs a guy they will call you when your next on that list. Apply to every apprenticeship and utility.

http://www.neat1968.org/index.htm

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I have their large metric and sae wrench sets and I have been pleased with them for sure. I am starting the GM ASEP this year and used tekton a few times to get my set started.

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no Kobalts are 90T:bounce:
The same mechanism doesnt always mean it's the same tool! Besides that they all copy S-O handle design, does that mean they come from the same place.. no way. All those guys do is copy one another. One factory makes handles/sockets, another makes gears another makes levers / plastic do dads IMO it's all an incestuous mix up. You look across the range that Tekton offers and they have some decent sets and crappy sets like here, just like HF. While the big box and Gearwrench offer just one quality tier. Do a image search of "Tekton +ratchets" and you'll see some of the same HF products. .
probably not:headscrat

The cobalt 72T and Tekton ratchets are the same. The 90T are new and have no reliability information out about them, meaning they could be great or horrible. Kobalt is still selling the 72T ratchets, so it's valid comparison.

And kobalt and Husky bring in junk for Father's Day, Black Friday, and many other times a year. They certainly don't offer just one line of quality and are happy to bring in junkier stuff to sell for less money during big sales times. Anyone who's followed these brands long enough has seen the vice grips and adjustable wrenches in one, the modular screwdrivers, the dual drive ratchets, etc. Almost all of which absolutely ****.

Gearwrench also has multiple lines of quality. Their basic ratcheting wrenches have been getting worse and worse over the years with thicker box and open ends. Also look up gearwrench 45 Tooth ratchets. Bet you didn't even know they made those, but they sell them in the kits with the cheap Chinese sockets, not the better Taiwan made sets they sell. Gearwrench doesn't bring in as much gimmicky stuff as Husky, Kobalt, and Craftsman (the three biggest offenders in gimmicky tools), but they still do occasionally. Apex is knowing for cheapening out on previous quality lines, and they're doing the same thing with Gearwrench.
 

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http://tekton.com/Sockets_and_Ratch...rs/3-8-in-Drive-x-11-in-Flex-Polished-Ratchet

https://m.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-3-8-in-Drive-Quick-Release-Flexible-Head-Ratchet/3387120

These ratchets look identical other than one has a black push button, one chrome. Both with the 72 tooth system, that is more than likely interchangeable.

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what about these ? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NJ7U1U/?tag=atomicindus08-20 its a much bigger ratchet for 1/2 the price>
Those ratchet handles are ubiquitous, you can walk into any auto parts store and see them there too. I can pick some other Tekton products and show you they are indeed identical to HF, so the point I'm trying to make is Tekton is the internet equivalent to HF and some other B&M tool lines. If someone says "I got Tekton tools so I'm good to go", you could wonder what exactly they are talking about, some of their items are good some are not, just like HF.
BTW Check Kobalts current mechanics sets, theyre all 90T. Can you change out the components in them? yes probably. The question remains are they all made by APEX or SB&D? I say neither!
 

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what about these ? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NJ7U1U/?tag=atomicindus08-20 its a much bigger ratchet for 1/2 the price>
Those ratchet handles are ubiquitous, you can walk into any auto parts store and see them there too. I can pick some other Tekton products and show you they are indeed identical to HF, so the point I'm trying to make is Tekton is the internet equivalent to HF and some other B&M tool lines. If someone says "I got Tekton tools so I'm good to go", you could wonder what exactly they are talking about, some of their items are good some are not, just like HF.
BTW Check Kobalts current mechanics sets, theyre all 90T. Can you change out the components in them? yes probably. The question remains are they all made by APEX or SB&D? I say neither!

Made in China, thats a good indicator there not the same as the Kobalt/Tekton/HF stuff.

From what I can tell, Kobalt has three 90 tooth ratchets, all short handle non-flex, one in each drive size. That doesnt put Kobalt on a pedestal above Tekton/HF.

And just cause their 90 tooth dont mean there any better than the Taiwan 72 tooth ratchets.

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Says "Origin China" under features and details, not real hard to find.

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why is that bad, 1/2 bad? useless ****? The trend toward COO China is undeniable. Is Gearwrench China crapola too?
I doubt you have nothing more than anecdotes.
 
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why is that bad, 1/2 bad? useless ****? The trend toward COO China is undeniable. Is Gearwrench China crapola too?
I doubt you have nothing more than anecdotes.
No but I'm not the one saying that one tool made in China and one made in Taiwan are the same.

And then you put Kobalt on a pedestal above the other importers.

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No but I'm not the one saying that one tool made in China and one made in Taiwan are the same.

And then you put Kobalt on a pedestal above the other importers.

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no I didn't say it. I just cant rate Tekton as a whole, way above the Big Box Stores , IMO its closer to HF but with a mail in return. It's not fair to cherry pick single tools from any importer to back up a statement. How easy is it to get a replacement is often a choice too. A tool you can get in a day or less has some merit.
 
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Why pay 3x the price for import tools b/c they are loosely associated with the expensive tool truck?

Financing perhaps?

The tool truck can get them a $500 BluePoint tool set and they only have to pay $20 a week... for the next year.
 
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