Tekton Needle Nose

[Tallpilot]

https://www.tekton.com/6-inch-70-degree-bent-long-nose-pliers-pgf10406

Looks like Tekton has started sourcing their needle nose pliers out of Taiwan. They are a couple bucks more than the old Chinese ones but I suspect the quality improvement is worth it.

I don't need anymore pliers at the moment but if someone happens to purchase a pair please let us know about them.

Note : The storks have not be updated yet just the 6, 7 and 8 inch needle nose and the lineman's. Looks like the cutters (dykes, etc) are also sourced from Taiwan now.

Maybe we can keep the discussion about pilers not politics? Just a thought.

 

[Davefr]

https://www.tekton.com/6-inch-70-degree-bent-long-nose-pliers-pgf10406

Looks like Tekton has started sourcing their needle nose pliers out of Taiwan. They are a couple bucks more than the old Chinese ones but I suspect the quality improvement is worth it.

I don't need anymore pliers at the moment but if someone happens to purchase a pair please let us know about them.

Note : The storks have not be updated yet just the 6, 7 and 8 inch needle nose and the lineman's. Looks like the cutters (dykes, etc) are also sourced from Taiwan now.

Maybe we can keep the discussion about pilers not politics? Just a thought.

The Tekton 8" needle nose are identical to the 8" HF Doyles except for the price. Doyles are about $10 AC, Tekton's (PGF10008) are $18.

I just don't see the allure of Tekton. There's so much overlap with HF, except for the much higher prices.

 

[gatlibs]

Do they look like a different design at all? The timing of moving production to Taiwan may be more about cost than anything else.

 

[BarryWells]

Not exactly. You go buy a HF red bandsaw and then stop and buy "the exact" jet bandsaw, then go use them and you'll see something. They came out of the same giant factory. Bid a lil extra/demand a lil higher quality control, more hardness, better paint/coating etc etc.

OH. I'll buy the Tekton because I cant stand HF or its ownership. Those Tektons spec 58 to 64 on the cutter hsardness. That requires a real decent piece of steel to make cuts and not immediately chip. Probably some D2 is my first guess. That steel isnt cheap.

 

[visionguru]

The Tekton 8" needle nose are identical to the 8" HF Doyles except for the price. Doyles are about $10 AC, Tekton's (PGF10008) are $18.

I just don't see the allure of Tekton. There's so much overlap with HF, except for the much higher prices.

I can't agree more. Not just HF, compare with other store brands too. I've seen Tekton in stores for ages, but whenever I need a tool, I always can find something similar from other brands at cheaper price.

 

[Tallpilot]

The Tekton 8" needle nose are identical to the 8" HF Doyles except for the price. Doyles are about $10 AC, Tekton's (PGF10008) are $18.

I just don't see the allure of Tekton. There's so much overlap with HF, except for the much higher prices.

It’s hard to know if they are exactly the same spec but we’ll assume they are for this discussion. Ignoring personal preference, political beliefs, etc., all things being equal I don’t shop at HF because the 3 (yes, 3) closest to where I live require nearly 1 hour trips. If I drove by one during my commute I might feel differently. Tekton delivered to my door is much more convenient than an hour slog through traffic.

Check out the link and read the information. Maybe it’s all lies. I don’t have access to a metallurgy lab to go test this stuff. I like that they put that information out there with specific numbers instead of just marketing superlatives like ‘high strength.’

In the end they’re just cheap pliers and probably interchangeable. But I like that both HF and Tekton seem to be moving up the quality ladder instead of down like so many other vendors.

Do they look like a different design at all? The timing of moving production to Taiwan may be more about cost than anything else.

Could be just a move for fear of tariffs or to appease COO conscious customers but according to the information presented it’s better steel and hardening process and better teeth.

I don’t know that’s why I started the thread. Somebody could buy one of each and do a hardness test. Objective information is always appreciated.

 

[apdxyk]

So many have access to a keyboard, so few have access to spectrography equipment

 

[dnschmidt]

All I know is that the HF Doyle pliers are really good. They are as good as the TOPTUL I use to sell and I thought those were great. When HF sold **** people hated them. Then they moved up market and people still hate them. WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU GUYS WANT?

 

[CrazyTools]

https://www.tekton.com/6-inch-70-degree-bent-long-nose-pliers-pgf10406

Looks like Tekton has started sourcing their needle nose pliers out of Taiwan. They are a couple bucks more than the old Chinese ones but I suspect the quality improvement is worth it.

I don't need anymore pliers at the moment but if someone happens to purchase a pair please let us know about them.

Note : The storks have not be updated yet just the 6, 7 and 8 inch needle nose and the lineman's. Looks like the cutters (dykes, etc) are also sourced from Taiwan now.

Maybe we can keep the discussion about pilers not politics? Just a thought.

Just a general thought : you may see a lot of companies "moving" production out of China to avoid tariffs. They may actually move production, or just be claiming to do so.

It seems to be generally considered that anything in Taiwan is better than China, so either way not a bad thing.

 

[Davefr]

I'm 99.9% convinced that the HF 8" Doyles and the 8" Tekton PGF10008 come from the same OEM. I guess it's possible that Tekton specs. additional heat treating but I have my doubts.

I absolutely understand the convenience of buying Tekton's online vs. HF B&M.

Tekton has the absolute best tool website I've ever seen. 100X better then snapon.com.

 

[65k10]

I absolutely understand the convenience of buying Tekton's online vs. HF B&M.

Tekton has the absolute best tool website I've ever seen. 100X better then snapon.com.

That's the main draw of Tekton in my eyes. I'm not a big fan of Tekton, but it's much more available to me. It's about a 2.5 hour drive to the nearest HF, but I do have a somewhat closer source for Tekton. Plus there's Amazon.

Otherwise, I don't think Tekton is anything special. What they offer is a somewhat better thought out offering compared to some other cheap brands when it comes to stuff like their socket and wrench sets. It also seems like if you have to buy something in a pinch sight-unseen online, you have a good chance of getting something adequate.

 

[M6erfan]

I'm 99.9% convinced that the HF 8" Doyles and the 8" Tekton PGF10008 come from the same OEM. I guess it's possible that Tekton specs. additional heat treating but I have my doubts.

I absolutely understand the convenience of buying Tekton's online vs. HF B&M.

Tekton has the absolute best tool website I've ever seen. 100X better then snapon.com.

I wish every tool site was as good as Tekton's.

 

[dnschmidt]

M6erfan, The best Website in the history of mankind is McMaster-Carr's.

 

[Professional Tool User]

Interesting... It looks Tekton has added a few styles of Made in USA and Made in Taiwan pliers since I last checked and the it's just the wire strippers, fencing pliers, and long reach pliers that are made in China. Quality may have improved, but the motivating factor is probably cost as others have already stated. Manufacturing in China is no longer as cheap as it used to be and with the uncertainty surrounding tariffs, it might make sense to make it in Taiwan and charge a bit more.

 

[Professional Tool User]

I'm 99.9% convinced that the HF 8" Doyles and the 8" Tekton PGF10008 come from the same OEM. I guess it's possible that Tekton specs. additional heat treating but I have my doubts.

I absolutely understand the convenience of buying Tekton's online vs. HF B&M.

Tekton has the absolute best tool website I've ever seen. 100X better then snapon.com.

If you're sure, go buy one of each and do a comparison. The difference between Made in Taiwan tools from Harbor Freight and Tekton is with Harbor Freight, your chances of getting a quality control reject are much higher. I've had two or three cases where I sent someone who doesn't pay attention to these things to shop for me in store and I ended up with duds. Never had such issues with Tekton.

 

[chevy302dz]

Well just from looking at the zoomed in pics on the Tekton and HF site respectively, the Tekton pliers appear to be better finished that the Doyle versions. If that also translates into better functionality or durability remains to be seen and will hopefully be reported by those using these pliers on a regular basis.

 

[Tallpilot]

If you're sure, go buy one of each and do a comparison. The difference between Made in Taiwan tools from Harbor Freight and Tekton is with Harbor Freight, your chances of getting a quality control reject are much higher. I've had two or three cases where I sent someone who doesn't pay attention to these things to shop for me in store and I ended up with duds. Never had such issues with Tekton.

I agree. To me it’s worth a few extra bucks to not have to look everything over with a fine tooth comb.

 

[techieman33]

All I know is that the HF Doyle pliers are really good. They are as good as the TOPTUL I use to sell and I thought those were great. When HF sold **** people hated them. Then they moved up market and people still hate them. WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU GUYS WANT?

I think they want it to be 30 years ago when they could go into Sears and buy cheap USA made tools with a lifetime warranty. They're just looking at the past with those nice rose colored glasses.

 

[1982fxr]

I think they want it to be 30 years ago when they could go into Sears and buy cheap USA made tools with a lifetime warranty. They're just looking at the past with those nice rose colored glasses.

In all fairness hf still sells a TON of garbage.

So the people who hated them when they sold **** still have plenty of reasons to hate them for selling ****.

 

[Davefr]

If you're sure, go buy one of each and do a comparison. The difference between Made in Taiwan tools from Harbor Freight and Tekton is with Harbor Freight, your chances of getting a quality control reject are much higher. I've had two or three cases where I sent someone who doesn't pay attention to these things to shop for me in store and I ended up with duds. Never had such issues with Tekton.

Maybe, but in my experience the probability of getting duds is much lower with Taiwan made tools. I'd also think that HF's "premium" brands would command a little more quality control then their generic ****.

 

[CallumRD1]

People keep saying that Tekton is only moving production to Taiwan because tariffs and increased production costs in China, but Tekton has been progressively moving production of their lower quality tools to Taiwan while improving the products for many years now. This is no new phenominon. In the last 5 years they’ve gone from making a lot of cheap HFesque products to very good tools for the money, most of which are made in Taiwan while some are made in the US.

 

[Mr_B]

same manufacturer as doyle.
branding on pin swivel side not most thought out manufacture step .
They not bad lower cost pliers but you could get them much cheaper at HF (use 20% couon for eeven cheaper 18419221) and concept of value tools is buying quality at lowest cost .

 

[mrjaw14]

I needed a cheap pair of needle nose pliers years ago for a vehicle kit, and the HF ones I got were the nicest they had at the time. They look like rusted **** after just sitting in a tool bag with marginal use after just a few months. Chrome was super super thin and didn't adhere well. I"d be willing to try doyle, but I'd need to know they aren't going to rust out.

Now every pair of Tekton pliers I have still look as good as the day I bought them. I'd rather pay a little bit more for better finishing, but also for the reputation that they are good pliers. I live in the south with really high humidity, so if you want to know about tool finishing, just set two different brands on the workbench for a week and see which one's half-gone lol