I'm quite aware the handle not going snap, point is it be useful design have handle bend before drive square or pawls fail .
Tekton Ratchet....Wow!
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I'm quite aware the handle not going snap, point is it be useful design have handle bend before drive square or pawls fail .
I'm glad I've read this new Tekton fact, I broke several 3/8 ratchets the other day trying to tighten bolts to 280ftlbs, knowing there is a 3/8 ratchet that will do 290 is perfect. I didn't think to use a 1/2" ratchet. But seriously it just shows these fine tooth ratchets mechanisms are inherently strong if designed right. Their 1/2" 90t should in theory be good for over 500lb, which is a serious amount of torque that one may never need to apply. I successfully undid 4 lug nuts @80ftlbs with the cheapest 1/4" 72t Chinese ratchet I could buy. It cost $2.99 delivered. So cheap tools are truly better than ever.
plinker
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Did they have a spec for the 3/4 drive ratchets? Should be darn near impossible to break.
They spec 1000 for the ratchet and 1300 for the breaker bar. IIRC
kctyphoon
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Not reading every post - but wouldnt you WANT the handle to bend as an indication that the tool is being overloaded BEFORE the ratchet just breaks and has a catastrophic failure?
Chain hoists have a similar feature. Either the handles or hooks bend to let people know the tool has been overloaded and should not be used anymore.
Chain hoists have a similar feature. Either the handles or hooks bend to let people know the tool has been overloaded and should not be used anymore.
While we're batting around preferences for failure modes...
Wouldn't it be better for a tooth to break or the ratchet mechanism to slip before the anvil shears off? If one tooth breaks, you still have the other 89 teeth to get you through the job. If the anvil breaks you've got nothing.
Wouldn't it be better for a tooth to break or the ratchet mechanism to slip before the anvil shears off? If one tooth breaks, you still have the other 89 teeth to get you through the job. If the anvil breaks you've got nothing.
Dave.R
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It should be noted bending is only going to happen when abused with a pipe well beyond its means. There is a balance of hardness to ductility on the material that works out for the best wearing tool. This is usually best seen in a wrench or ratchet that bends, but comes back. However, at a couple foot long pipe being added to it's 6 inch design, it's going to be fatigued past that point pretty easily.
Just don't use a pipe on your tools, or the warranty guy will give you a hard time.
Dave - The warranty guy
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Just don't use a pipe on your tools, or the warranty guy will give you a hard time.
Dave - The warranty guy
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visionguru
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Watched many videos of ratchet abuses on YouTube, never saw a ratchet handle bending like that, never saw a guy cannot pull 300 ft-lb with a cheater bar (mere for show?). His torque adapter is very likely specified 250ft-lb max.
What amazes me more is some GJers are still looking for regular 3/8" ratchets.
What amazes me more is some GJers are still looking for regular 3/8" ratchets.
Farmall450
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Ding ding ding. China/Taiwan can make good tools. Just look at Carlyle, DeWalt hand tools, Milwaukee power tools and some hand tools.
Well I don't know about a pipe being the only way.
What about a hefty individual standing on the end of the ratchet and potentially jumping up and down?
Rabid Badger
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The torque adapter that is displaying 682 lb/ft at the beginning of the video?
https://www.amazon.com/Neiko-20743A-Digital-Adapter-Foot-Pound/dp/B009GLITFW
Bigblue&Goldie
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I only buy Snap On ratchets (only thing I really buy from Snap On), but these ratchets look great, along with the new ICON stuff. The latest generation of Taiwan ratchets has really closed the gap between the truck lines and the consumer brands. The fact the ratchet handle bent before the anvil snapped shows just how strong the current mechanisms are. For a person who doesn't care about COO, these look like a great performer and value.
chad w
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We get excited about good tools. We dont much care bout brand names.
Especially with a cheap tool I'd much rather something bend than break. I'd take the $30 loss before an injury. I bent a 1/2" HF breaker bar, no cheater pipe and I'm 160 lb. I didnt get injured. And I returned it for a new one. If the drive snapped I would've probably been hurt. Better to bend than break.
Ton ton
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Bump.
nmantas
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I still go to a couple of nonchain dollar stores that have MIT tools......yikes but we all have to start somewhere.
Ign
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I wonder if the Tekton 90T is the same mechanism Steelman Pro has been using in their longer Cobras for years... the shorter versions were getting the weird 160T which, as odd as it sounds, is almost too fine