Terrible01's 40x30 build

[terrible01]

I believe this post will be a catch all for my questions and updates relating to my detached workshop. That's the idea anyhow.

I've pondered on the size of a shop for at least two years. At first, I believed I was restrained to 800sqft and would have to build a loft to have enough space. After checking with the county, I found out that I can build up to 75% of my residents size, so a 40x30x12 is buildable!

It will be used for woodworking and a workspace for the race car. The woodshop will have a loft overhead for storing wood and maybe a work bench.

Here is the general layout that I have came up with so far.

In interest of moving things forward, I am looking at ways to lessen the initial cost. Not insulating the sidewalls could be one of them since my yard is shaded. The roof will be insulated, no questions there.

How important is insulating the sidewalls in my area?


*edited the size of the building. Read further to see why it has changed to 24x35.

 

[Fueler]

Work shop, race cars.
You will inevitably get around to asking questions in the heat and AC forum.
Insulation is important no matter the location. Think climate control.
Otherwise you just have a shed that will be miserable inside year round.
Not that there is anything wrong with being miserable.

 

[chruler]

I can't read the attachment because it's very small, but I would offer that you consider the size of the stock you intend to work in the shop when deciding where the machines and storage areas go. Nothing worse than having a machine too close to a wall, or other piece of equipment when you need to get some work done.

 

[terrible01]

Work shop, race cars.
You will inevitably get around to asking questions in the heat and AC forum.
Insulation is important no matter the location. Think climate control.
Otherwise you just have a shed that will be miserable inside year round.
Not that there is anything wrong with being miserable.

I've been miserable for a while, especially with the area I have to work in. I don't mind the heat so much, at least.

I can't read the attachment because it's very small, but I would offer that you consider the size of the stock you intend to work in the shop when deciding where the machines and storage areas go. Nothing worse than having a machine too close to a wall, or other piece of equipment when you need to get some work done.

You may have to zoom in some to see the labels. Wood storage on the floor would be temporary until the loft is built. Adding a CNC is a big maybe at this point, but I wanted to make sure there was room if I did get one.

At this point, the layout definitely isn't set in concrete yet. I will lay everything out and then decide on the inside wall location.

OS- oscillating sander
Dp- drill press
Pla- planer

 

[garage rookie]

Just some advice, insulate the walls while you have it bare bones. I moved too quickly and now it's gonna be a real PITA! I live outside Chatt. TN so I'm familiar with the temps you might be incurring. I too have a 30x40 but mine is metal, very hot in the summer opposite in the winter.

 

[terrible01]

After some thought about the resale value in our neighborhood and the overall cost of the building we decided to go with a 24x35x14 building instead. I'll add a loft around the lift for extra wood & household storage and my small lathe will go up there as well. Plus, it was easily fit into our finances, which was a big plus. Also, insulation will be added in on the install.

I'll hopefully be able to change the dimensions in the title to reflect the changes.

I've started by laying out the general area that it'll go and digging up a persimmon tree stump that was in the way of the foundation. Digging the stump up was a PITA, but hopefully it'll show on the concrete estimate.

Concrete will hopefully be completed within the first few weeks of 2018.

The last root that I couldn't see the night I started, had to get to it from underneath.

 

[stu999]

Good job, like the use of the jack..!

 

[terrible01]

Good job, like the use of the jack..!

Thanks! I had a come-along pulling it as well, trying to break what was left of the root system. After lots of wenching and jacking, I finally found that last big root hanging on.

 

[terrible01]

Almost forgot to add that I picked up another lathe and it is a rare one to have in the states, a VB36 bowl lathe with the optional tail stock. Finding this lathe really put a emphasis on how much I needed a separate shop to work in, especially because my wife wants her parking spot back.. lol

 

[NYH1]

I'm having a 40x30x12 pole barn built right now. It already looks small. You might want to reconsider going smaller. I would rather have it the way I want it now and worry about resale and things like that down the road.

Good luck, NYH1.

 

[terrible01]

I'm having a 40x30x12 pole barn built right now. It already looks small. You might want to reconsider going smaller. I would rather have it the way I want it now and worry about resale and things like that down the road.

Good luck, NYH1.

You're probably right, but everything I need fits and leaves plenty of room for more. Like the a CNC router table, drum sander, etc that I don't even have yet.

I may be sticking my foot in my mouth, but I believe it's plenty of room and the savings from not cutting down four or five pine trees is making it worth wile as well.

 

[terrible01]

A quick update on progress. Fell a pine tree that was only a couple feet away from the building, moved the existing shed, and now the concrete company is getting the form ready. It's starting to look like a garage is being built!

Working on lighting some today, picking out a high bay light to use over the lift.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NAHCNRP/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I38U1UU8H6BZ5R&colid=21NFQSJYTJYQP&psc=1

 

[terrible01]

I have forgotten about this thread. Doesn't seem to get that much interest, but anyhow..

The shop definitely has came a long ways since my last post!

Concrete pad was poured, you can see the footers for the lift as well.
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Completed pad
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A few weeks after the pad was poured, my building showed up.
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My wife added her touches as well..
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One nice thing about having an electrician as a neighbor that's also a gear head is that he was more than willing to help out! He's an excellent pipe bender
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These are the high bay lights I was talking about earlier.
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Didn't take long to make a mess!! DC will be coming after I build the loft.
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That there is my Miater.. and some clutter because I was punted out of the garage, not just kicked.. Punted! lol
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Moving in new stuff and arranging as time goes on. It's a hot mess, really.
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She's mildly amused..
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[Astross89]

I may have missed it. But who's building is it? Carolina Carports?

 

[terrible01]

I may have missed it. But who's building is it? Carolina Carports?

Close, steel buildings and structures. I purchased through Daniels aluminum, which is close by my home.

 

[AFBud78]

I like the steel building. How does it handle wind?

 

[terrible01]

Of the storms we have had, that I’ve been out there during, it’s handled the wind very well. Also, keep in mind that we have a lot of pine trees around, so the building doesn’t get a lot of wind directly.

 

[Dartwizer]

I have looking at this type of building and very interested in your build.Mine will be 30x34x10. How did you seal the bottom of the frame to keep water out?

 

[terrible01]

Don’t have to, when the sheet metal siding is installed, it overlaps the frame to concrete joint. Unless you recess the building into the ground, there shouldn’t be a need for anything else.

 

[Dartwizer]

Thank you for the info sir,,looks good