smalltown
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Really surprised to read about the hail damage to roofs down there.
Very nice looking building.
Very nice looking building.
Texas Saltbox Re-Do
- Thread starter TheShrine
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Yup, we got hail issues but my BIG problem is with lightening!! Been on this mountain for about 10 years and I've had significant strikes, with damage, 8 times! Lost computers , TV's, garage door openers, sprinkler system controllers, AC systems, telephone systems, routers/WiFi, digital TV boxes, refrigerators, microwaves, even a bed! All were plural loses except the bed!!
Because of the rock base where we live no lightening rod company will guarantee their products!?! I have 2 buildings and both are on whole home surge protectors and each electronic device is on its own surge protector. So far, the last two strikes, I came out OK. Our newest issue is "Brown outs"!!
It hurts expensively to live in the country!!
Put'n up the back stairs and covered "Yard Stuff" area. FULL DISCLOSURE.....this is where I made a construction mistake! I should not have demanded the HardiBoard be cut so that the stair runner could be attached directly to the OSB! I should have cut only the battens and layed the runner directly on the HardiBoard. Anyway, I used the upper entrance decking as a roof for the covering of the two Split AC Systems and extended the roofing over to cover more storage area. I was, and remain, committed to having no storage of lawn equipment in The Shrine! So far...so good! I also keep a 20 gallon compressor and a sand blasting cabinet under cover there as well. The rest is.....junk!....but it's good junk.!
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First pics show original design with no deck cover. The last few pics are current pics with a covered decking. Discovered some unfortunate rot at exposed doorway so a cover was the answer. Although not HardiBoard...I did keep with the Cedar and Corrugated metal theme.
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First pics show original design with no deck cover. The last few pics are current pics with a covered decking. Discovered some unfortunate rot at exposed doorway so a cover was the answer. Although not HardiBoard...I did keep with the Cedar and Corrugated metal theme.
With the electrical and plumbing in place it's time to insulate. I took a lot of grief over this decision. Everyone kept say'n..."It's JUST a garage!"! They really sounded off when I put in double panned insulated windows!! I changed insulating companies early on...you can see the different types/color of products. Nut'n big...just didn't get agree on some stuff. There was a "discussion" between me and my builder on my decision to insulate an inside room. That room was my tool room and I had them double stuff the R30 as well. He tried to explain the insulating properties of double stuffing until I told him there would be a solid core metal door as well because it would contain one of my air compressors. I wanted it to be quite not necessarily cool or warm. He finally got on board. I knew that the shop would have an entertainment system with surround system and it would be useless if a compressor was running. So......
This room....
This room....
95riosnake
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Really enjoying the re-telling of this story for sure. I remember seeing the original thread and loving the layout of this shop, especially the monstrous height in the main area. Looking forward to future updates!
HOTFR8
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It must be interesting going over your build again and seeing what you did. It makes me wonder if you could would you change anything?
Absolutely! I must admit though...I have reviewed these pics more than the re-posting I am doing here/now. For instance...
- had an empty electrical box out back under the stairs when it came to installing weatherproof outlets. Went back to my original pics and could see it pulled through so I knew all I had to do was fish it out. I should have watched the electrician helpers closer!
- the exit location of the drain under the lift got "lost" in the slab pour. Originally, the 2" PVC pipe butted right up against the Form Boards. With the weight of the concrete the boards bulged enough to form a small space between the PVC and the Form Board and the ******** filled in the space. I planned a 2" drain for accidents like oil/transmission pans. It was to be under the general lift area (for accidents) and exit the building to a waiting 5 gal bucket. In my effort to vibrate the slab so the sides, which were as much as 5" high, were nice and smooth I actually lost the location of the exiting 2" pipe. I went back to the slab pour pictures and located the exact location. Otherwise we would have had to start chipping concrete until we found it. 3 of us marked where we thought it was....each of us were 12 to 14" off!
-One of my air drop downs, for moisture release, was lost. I found its location reviewing these pics. This one was behind already installed cabinetry!
-I ran a conduit, underground, from my home to The Shrine w/ 2 coax cables and 3 CAT5 cables. When they were pulled I still didn't have a use other than a telephone/internet so one of the workers rolled up several 100 feet of cable and tucked them nicely between the studs and.....well, work carries on like insulation, wall covering and cabinets when I got to thinking....?!?
My pics showed exactly where to start the tearing out.-I have a rather complex surround sound system in the shop area and the terminating boxes used for the Monster cables and HDMI/USB cabling. The electrician helpers confused what was what and what was for what and....the pics helped there as well.
-This same scenario, with mistaking terminating boxes, happened upstairs in the theater. Although it is an apartment now it is actually wired for a theater with power and cabling planned and that eventually happened, but the dry waller covered the empty boxes that had no wires. Not his fault totally because I was doing the cabling myself and I was doing it from the other side of the wall....long story but the pics helped find the outlet for the Monster, HDMI, Coax and USB cables, etc.
As for "what I'd do differently" 1) build bigger, 2) more and better lighting, 3) put lighting in the floor under the lift to shine up, 4) put at least 2 220 volt plugs outside for welding, 5) not waste $'s on an apartment/Theater that is never used, 6) assume that every Tradesman knows his trade!!!
OK....I've embarrassed myself enough!
I WANTED OSB on the interior but it had to be unmarked! All other trim is Cedar. The unmarked OSB was a challenge! Many loads defined as unmarked showed up with some unsightly ,what appeared to be, oily marks/smears. My contractor/ builder had a lot of heartburn over this. We sent many loads back but eventually got it done. The Cedar trim between each sheet of OSB is a Cedar 4 X 4 ripped to size. All door, window, ceiling, flooring and wainscoting is Cedar trim as well. It was a "plan"...but proved challenging in the larger lift area 22 ft up in the air! We had to use scaffolding and that was a chore as well!
Yes, I insulated the floors as well! My goal was not just climate control but sound control for the upstairs theater as well.
Yes, I insulated the floors as well! My goal was not just climate control but sound control for the upstairs theater as well.
HOTFR8
Banned
WOW. You did work out a lot from all that. Can you sort them out ? I hope you can.
The upstairs space......
I have plenty of space upstairs.
View from the upstairs.
This is another wild idea I had....This plumbing, hot water in particular, was being fed to the upstairs sink from the 10 gallon water heater down in the shop. The shower, to the left (out of this pic) was being fed by both of the 10 gallon water heaters up and down. My thinking was.....if there was anyone ever showering they would have access to 20 gallons of heated water. If they needed hot water from either the kit sink or bath sink they'd get it from the lower heater only. Over complicated in the plumbing but it works great!
This is the wall where all of the Theater wiring went. The blue boxes up and down were intended to be connected with Monster cable, HDMI, Coax, power and Cat5 cables....the sheet rock guys just covered the upper boxes assuming they were a mistake being that they were so high. I planned a big screen "up" on the wall connected to the "equipment" down lower on/in some cabinetry. We eventually got there....
I have plenty of upstairs storage in addition to the 20 X 25 living space.
I have plenty of space upstairs.
View from the upstairs.
This is another wild idea I had....This plumbing, hot water in particular, was being fed to the upstairs sink from the 10 gallon water heater down in the shop. The shower, to the left (out of this pic) was being fed by both of the 10 gallon water heaters up and down. My thinking was.....if there was anyone ever showering they would have access to 20 gallons of heated water. If they needed hot water from either the kit sink or bath sink they'd get it from the lower heater only. Over complicated in the plumbing but it works great!
This is the wall where all of the Theater wiring went. The blue boxes up and down were intended to be connected with Monster cable, HDMI, Coax, power and Cat5 cables....the sheet rock guys just covered the upper boxes assuming they were a mistake being that they were so high. I planned a big screen "up" on the wall connected to the "equipment" down lower on/in some cabinetry. We eventually got there....
I have plenty of upstairs storage in addition to the 20 X 25 living space.
HOTFR8
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The hot water sounds complex, but then it also sounds like it works well. The upstairs area always fascinates me with these builds as I doubt in some places it would be allowed here.
Time to sheet rock the upstairs. This is where I found that "they" had covered the surround sound speaker outlets and the upper big screen outlets. Apparently it wasn't their first SNAFU because they found them without an ....incident. To their credit they understood the space to be an apartment and the boxes in question were not on the drawing. As mentioned earlier...I directed the position of every blue outlet box myself
I never did figure out what to do with this space over the bath. It has a 110 outlet and one of the surround sound Monster cables. I had indirect lighting at one point but no one is ever up there so.....
Keeping with wrapping everything in OSB ,the ceiling was eventually covered in Bead Board, and then painted ceiling white. I did not want to have to go back and repair the sheet rock cracks that would surely expose themselves after a couple of 100+ degree Hill Country summers. The ceiling is high and a hated job would have been made harder with the height. The bead Board was finished off like I did the OSB downstairs with the furring/batten strips between each sheet.
The first time around on posting these upstairs pics there were some guys all upset over the wall of windows just over the outside stairs. They were claiming "code violation" and "danger to children"! I didn't and don't disagree.....but, us Country Folk aren't held to codes. We already know not to open the window and step out!! We have stairs....2 sets at that! I asked my Grandson about it and he said, "Why would anyone go through the window when there's a door right there.....and if anyone did go through the window.....wouldn't the stairs break their fall?" So....there ya go.
This is the wall where the communication boxes, with cables, was covered over. It was aggravating at the time but the discovery process gave me time to re-consider what the final plan was. By this time the OSB was up on the other side of the wall, the lift side of the shop, and I realized I had not pulled a long enough HDMI cable. Also, I did not run conduit....because I'm always right, but ,luckily, I did leave in place a small nylon rope! I used that rope to pull through the correct HDMI AND another length of nylon. The nylon is still there just in case. It was not an easy pull though. There was a traversing power line and the insulation was up and tacked down soooo.....
Another Wild A** idea of mine was to have the drain on my Ductless AC System to exit the space through each 2 X 4 in the wall until the drain exited the building. They are designed to be on an exterior wall and the drain simply pokes through the same hole that feeds the copper, power and communication cables. I couldn't do that with where I wanted the unit positioned in the room so the AC man said OK...IF I laid out the drain and he wasn't held responsible for future sheet rock damages. So behind that sheet rock to the left of that blower condenser unit is a carefully laid out 1" PCV drain angled just enough to persuade the moisture to drain out rather than in....so far so good!
This door lead to the lift area in the shop where a second set of stairs would be installed. Another long story!
I never did figure out what to do with this space over the bath. It has a 110 outlet and one of the surround sound Monster cables. I had indirect lighting at one point but no one is ever up there so.....
Keeping with wrapping everything in OSB ,the ceiling was eventually covered in Bead Board, and then painted ceiling white. I did not want to have to go back and repair the sheet rock cracks that would surely expose themselves after a couple of 100+ degree Hill Country summers. The ceiling is high and a hated job would have been made harder with the height. The bead Board was finished off like I did the OSB downstairs with the furring/batten strips between each sheet.
The first time around on posting these upstairs pics there were some guys all upset over the wall of windows just over the outside stairs. They were claiming "code violation" and "danger to children"! I didn't and don't disagree.....but, us Country Folk aren't held to codes. We already know not to open the window and step out!! We have stairs....2 sets at that! I asked my Grandson about it and he said, "Why would anyone go through the window when there's a door right there.....and if anyone did go through the window.....wouldn't the stairs break their fall?" So....there ya go.
This is the wall where the communication boxes, with cables, was covered over. It was aggravating at the time but the discovery process gave me time to re-consider what the final plan was. By this time the OSB was up on the other side of the wall, the lift side of the shop, and I realized I had not pulled a long enough HDMI cable. Also, I did not run conduit....because I'm always right, but ,luckily, I did leave in place a small nylon rope! I used that rope to pull through the correct HDMI AND another length of nylon. The nylon is still there just in case. It was not an easy pull though. There was a traversing power line and the insulation was up and tacked down soooo.....
Another Wild A** idea of mine was to have the drain on my Ductless AC System to exit the space through each 2 X 4 in the wall until the drain exited the building. They are designed to be on an exterior wall and the drain simply pokes through the same hole that feeds the copper, power and communication cables. I couldn't do that with where I wanted the unit positioned in the room so the AC man said OK...IF I laid out the drain and he wasn't held responsible for future sheet rock damages. So behind that sheet rock to the left of that blower condenser unit is a carefully laid out 1" PCV drain angled just enough to persuade the moisture to drain out rather than in....so far so good!
This door lead to the lift area in the shop where a second set of stairs would be installed. Another long story!
Time to put up Wainscoting and a few upper cabinets/shelves. I designed it and planned for it to be beat up more than it has been. The upper rail is 2 X 2 Cedar with a channel cut out the depth of the Corrugated metal I was using. Each piece is screwed in so that any damaged panels can be easily removed and replaced with a few screws. Since there is OSB on all surfaces I can screw it any where....wait...what!?!
I decided I liked the Corrugated metal Wainscoting so much that I put it on the shop ceiling as well.
I decided I liked the Corrugated metal Wainscoting so much that I put it on the shop ceiling as well.
HOTFR8
Banned
With the indoor stairs do you have a way to lower and raise them from both upstairs and ground floor?
Yes. I extended the 6 foot manufacturers cord to reach from the 2 Post Lift mounted motor to the upper stairs. If you look close you can see where the added line is draped from top of stairs to the lift motor and eventually hidden behind the fluorescent light.
There a 4 wires in the original cord. I found a 4 wire communication line and used that to extend the original 6 ft cord.
In this pic I had measured the length I'd need to drape the controller from the upstairs and still be at a level that it could be accessed downstairs.
In this pic you can see the controller is hanging at a level that anyone downstairs can lift/lower the stairs from the hanging controller. Hint: the controller is hanging just below the "P" in the PENNZOIL sign.
In this pic you can see the line draped from the stairs to the motor. It will eventually be hidden behind the fluorescent fixture.
I used the same process with my camper/tool box lift. You can see the extended cable hanging at a level that I can walk around my truck bed as I lower it.
HOTFR8
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Now that is clever how you access the stair control. If you wanted to now you could have a remote to operate it.
Morio
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What an awesome build
onemanarmy
Banned
thanks for re-doing the thread.
i missed it the first time around.
i missed it the first time around.
Thanks! Good to know someone is watching! It was a lot of work the first time around and proving to be challenging this time as well. It seems awfully quite "out there" some times. I never thought that all of that work and discussion exchange would be...lost.
I see a lot of the old threads...good threads, that have the blank PhotoBucket square in the place of the original pic. Makes me mad every time I see one.
Thanks again! More to come!
More upstairs progress. Since this space was originally planned to be a theater there was special planning for power and wiring. Early on my Bride noticed that I was spending money like a drunk sailor and she took "possession" of the space as an apartment/bedroom. While it does "look" like a space that a woman might plan...under its skin it is a THEATER!!!! We're just being patient. One day its true use will be realized!
The "wall of shame"! Currently covered by an armoire to hide the 4 communication boxes meant to connect the big screen with the sound/computer system.
Storage area behind the upper room.
View from upper walkway, with the hinged metal stairs, into the .....room.
View from the upper deck toward the main house.
The "wall of shame"! Currently covered by an armoire to hide the 4 communication boxes meant to connect the big screen with the sound/computer system.
Storage area behind the upper room.
View from upper walkway, with the hinged metal stairs, into the .....room.
View from the upper deck toward the main house.
HOTFR8
Banned
Theater or not I could live in that room with ease.
Finallygotit
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That is a nice little apartment.....I mean theater.
HOTFR8
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When I see the size of that Dog it leaves little to the imagination.
Got sidetracked.
.....back to cabinets, work bench, corrugated metal ceiling, garage doors and checkerboard flooring in the shop area.
Blank slate! Time to button up the shop area and make those decisions you can't turn back from!
The corrugated metal ceiling and Ductless AC / Heating system had just been installed. Again, I installed the cooling/heating system on an inside wall against the manufacturers advice. I had some liberties that I did not have with the upstairs system. Running the power, communication and drainage lines on the inside of the tool room was easier. It ain't pretty but you gotta know where to look to see the ugly
The cabinets are from Home Depot with heavy duty gliders. I am 6'-4" therefore I made a pedestal from a 2 X 6 for all of the cabinets, upstairs and down, so they would be more comfortable for me to work at. 6" makes a difference on long projects.
At this point I realized that I had no dedicated Beer Fridge space so I had a box built to lift up the fridge I already had off of the floor. Also, that shelf running over the top of the white workbench is/was a "test". There were 2 upper cabinets planned to be there but I had this shelf installed in a kind of a temporary way to see how I felt about it. There was also Peg Board planned for that area so I was in the deciding stage for several days. The shelf and peg board won the decision and the cabinets went to the back of the lift area.
That door is a solid core metal door meant to be sound proof...hopefully (At the time.). All of the walls and ceiling of the tool room are double stuffed with insulation to aid in containing the (inside) compressor sound. There is a surround sound system downstairs and the compressor sits right under the bed of the apartment above. It's works quite well...almost too well. I have left my compressor on for extended periods because I could not hear it running!...but that's what I get for using some of those cheap Harbor Freight connectors that leak. Otherwise the compressor wouldn't leak down and come on. Also, if that apartment ever matures into a Theater I'll be glad the room is...quiet!
Making some decisions on the "heavy" bench. My first intention was this bench would hold a vise. I changed my mind after it was beefed up with the heavy Cedar timber. There will now be a single shelf below the bench top and I decided on extra shelves in the tool room with a Battery charging station. I added these shelves after I changed the position of the vise. I imagined stuff falling off all of the shelves everytime I beat something in the vise but....that changed. Also, Peg Board was decided on for the back of the Heavy Bench.
This is the area, behind the 2 Post Lift, that the extra upper cabinets were eventually installed. I also decided on the 2 shelves between the 2 cabinets. The shelf at the level of the wainscoting was always part of the plan. Hindsight being 20/20...I should have left it off...at least at that level. It is just at the right height that makes storage of my Jeep doors and rag top challenging. 2 more inches would have been perfect!
Cabinets in the upper apartment......Theater! Damn it!
The garage doors were a challenge from the beginning! First of all the contractor thought I DID NOT want auto OPENERS! WTH...who doesn't want openers. That meant that the controller wires to the electronic eyes would be tacked to the outside of the ceiling and walls. NO! That was not an option. I did not get to witness how they accomplished the project but the wires ended up under the OSB. The next problem was the height we had to work with. One was too low and one was too high and angled. The Overhead Door Company sold me the insulated doors but would not install them. They claimed warranty and "loss of life" issues! I worked with my building contractor, who just so happened to have an EX-Overhead Door Company employee on his staff, and we worked it out. There was some cutting and measuring and several, to many, re-tries to get it right but we got it. Both doors are adjusted to where both can be lifted with a single finger! I eventually understood the "loss of life" issue once I spent several days working with those springs. Once they are torqued, especially the high one, they'll hurt you bad if they get lose from you!
The SNAFU surrounding the auto door openers involved not only the problem of where/how to run the wires for the electronic eyes but they (the contractor) had to run electrical for the controllers as well. We're out in the country and are not code reliant but we aren't stupid either!
It was tense for a while but he/they were very accommodating!
Those electronic eyes are important. I have grand babies and a Service Dog. All of them have walked under one of those...."loss of life" doors since they were installed!
It was important that this door hugged the ceiling because there would be/is a 2 Post Lift on this side of the garage. I didn't want to be limited on how high I could lift "anything" because there happened to be a garage door in the way. We eventually had to install a 2nd spring to help with the lifting at such an extreme angle. Additionally, once the door is in the full up position I didn't want to be concerned that if something "let go" the door would come crashing down....those insulated doors are heavy! The additional spring and both being torqued adequately was the answer. Once the door is up it will not come down without persuasion.
.....back to cabinets, work bench, corrugated metal ceiling, garage doors and checkerboard flooring in the shop area.
Blank slate! Time to button up the shop area and make those decisions you can't turn back from!
The corrugated metal ceiling and Ductless AC / Heating system had just been installed. Again, I installed the cooling/heating system on an inside wall against the manufacturers advice. I had some liberties that I did not have with the upstairs system. Running the power, communication and drainage lines on the inside of the tool room was easier. It ain't pretty but you gotta know where to look to see the ugly
The cabinets are from Home Depot with heavy duty gliders. I am 6'-4" therefore I made a pedestal from a 2 X 6 for all of the cabinets, upstairs and down, so they would be more comfortable for me to work at. 6" makes a difference on long projects.
At this point I realized that I had no dedicated Beer Fridge space so I had a box built to lift up the fridge I already had off of the floor. Also, that shelf running over the top of the white workbench is/was a "test". There were 2 upper cabinets planned to be there but I had this shelf installed in a kind of a temporary way to see how I felt about it. There was also Peg Board planned for that area so I was in the deciding stage for several days. The shelf and peg board won the decision and the cabinets went to the back of the lift area.
That door is a solid core metal door meant to be sound proof...hopefully (At the time.). All of the walls and ceiling of the tool room are double stuffed with insulation to aid in containing the (inside) compressor sound. There is a surround sound system downstairs and the compressor sits right under the bed of the apartment above. It's works quite well...almost too well. I have left my compressor on for extended periods because I could not hear it running!...but that's what I get for using some of those cheap Harbor Freight connectors that leak. Otherwise the compressor wouldn't leak down and come on. Also, if that apartment ever matures into a Theater I'll be glad the room is...quiet!
Making some decisions on the "heavy" bench. My first intention was this bench would hold a vise. I changed my mind after it was beefed up with the heavy Cedar timber. There will now be a single shelf below the bench top and I decided on extra shelves in the tool room with a Battery charging station. I added these shelves after I changed the position of the vise. I imagined stuff falling off all of the shelves everytime I beat something in the vise but....that changed. Also, Peg Board was decided on for the back of the Heavy Bench.
This is the area, behind the 2 Post Lift, that the extra upper cabinets were eventually installed. I also decided on the 2 shelves between the 2 cabinets. The shelf at the level of the wainscoting was always part of the plan. Hindsight being 20/20...I should have left it off...at least at that level. It is just at the right height that makes storage of my Jeep doors and rag top challenging. 2 more inches would have been perfect!
Cabinets in the upper apartment......Theater! Damn it!
The garage doors were a challenge from the beginning! First of all the contractor thought I DID NOT want auto OPENERS! WTH...who doesn't want openers. That meant that the controller wires to the electronic eyes would be tacked to the outside of the ceiling and walls. NO! That was not an option. I did not get to witness how they accomplished the project but the wires ended up under the OSB. The next problem was the height we had to work with. One was too low and one was too high and angled. The Overhead Door Company sold me the insulated doors but would not install them. They claimed warranty and "loss of life" issues!
I worked with my building contractor, who just so happened to have an EX-Overhead Door Company employee on his staff, and we worked it out. There was some cutting and measuring and several, to many, re-tries to get it right but we got it. Both doors are adjusted to where both can be lifted with a single finger! I eventually understood the "loss of life" issue once I spent several days working with those springs. Once they are torqued, especially the high one, they'll hurt you bad if they get lose from you!
The SNAFU surrounding the auto door openers involved not only the problem of where/how to run the wires for the electronic eyes but they (the contractor) had to run electrical for the controllers as well. We're out in the country and are not code reliant but we aren't stupid either!
It was tense for a while but he/they were very accommodating!
Those electronic eyes are important. I have grand babies and a Service Dog. All of them have walked under one of those...."loss of life" doors since they were installed!
It was important that this door hugged the ceiling because there would be/is a 2 Post Lift on this side of the garage. I didn't want to be limited on how high I could lift "anything" because there happened to be a garage door in the way. We eventually had to install a 2nd spring to help with the lifting at such an extreme angle. Additionally, once the door is in the full up position I didn't want to be concerned that if something "let go" the door would come crashing down....those insulated doors are heavy! The additional spring and both being torqued adequately was the answer. Once the door is up it will not come down without persuasion.
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Finishing up the cabinets, peg board with trim and countertops. I waited until the last minute to decide on the countertop surface. Decided on Tempered Hardboard trimmed out in Cedar. It matches the pegboard and any piece that is damaged can be lifted out and another piece put in its place. Similar to how I designed the corrugated metal wainscoting. The cedar border keeps it in place with no screws needed. The areas that will get the most damage will have a metal covering
The upper shelf is staying. I liked it better once the pegboard was up. The 2 X 6 form under the cabinets was also a keeper. I'm gonna cover the area, toe kick, with the wainscoting used throughout the space.
The heavy bench will get the same tempered hardboard covering as well as the metal protection like the other bench. The shelf will have the tempered hardboard but no metal. It's just for storage. There will eventually be a stainless steel "catch tray" for working on oily/greasy stuff. That way all of the oil/grease is contained and easily cleaned.
These cabinets are basically done. Gotta few buttons to button. The floors are in and the bath's cabinets and and plumbing is complete as well. Just gotta drop in the commode and fixtures.
The upper shelf is staying. I liked it better once the pegboard was up. The 2 X 6 form under the cabinets was also a keeper. I'm gonna cover the area, toe kick, with the wainscoting used throughout the space.
The heavy bench will get the same tempered hardboard covering as well as the metal protection like the other bench. The shelf will have the tempered hardboard but no metal. It's just for storage. There will eventually be a stainless steel "catch tray" for working on oily/greasy stuff. That way all of the oil/grease is contained and easily cleaned.
These cabinets are basically done. Gotta few buttons to button. The floors are in and the bath's cabinets and and plumbing is complete as well. Just gotta drop in the commode and fixtures.
Cabinets and shelving in! Still a lot of little things to do.
Upstairs bath and kitchenette cabinets installed, plumbing fixtures and toilet. The all important beer fridge installed and ready!
Shelves in the tool room. Little did I know, at the time, how I'd have to install twice the original plan. Luckily I had the space.
The all important Beer Fridge Stand is in place! Another last minute lucky decision!
The open space, with a single shelf, to the right of the sink is wancky looking but it serves a purpose. The shelf is removable. A subwoofer for the surround sound system goes on the floor below it. When the the shelf is removed one has access to a 10 gallon water heater tucked into the corner behind the corrugated metal facade.
Upstairs bath and kitchenette cabinets installed, plumbing fixtures and toilet. The all important beer fridge installed and ready!
Shelves in the tool room. Little did I know, at the time, how I'd have to install twice the original plan. Luckily I had the space.
The all important Beer Fridge Stand is in place! Another last minute lucky decision!
The open space, with a single shelf, to the right of the sink is wancky looking but it serves a purpose. The shelf is removable. A subwoofer for the surround sound system goes on the floor below it. When the the shelf is removed one has access to a 10 gallon water heater tucked into the corner behind the corrugated metal facade.
Time to start unpacking my junk! My wife is tired of parking outside while this shack has been in the process. mOur 3 car attached was packed with all of my stuff for quite a few months while this project was being planned and implemented.
This is where you wonder why you even packed a certain thing?!? Quite a bit got donated or thrown away.
This thing had been ON my truck for about a year! I had no place to put it and certainly couldn't get it off by myself. It was one of the first things to be addressed. Finally got my truck back! One man operation and about 30 minutes to accomplish. This was one of my better ideas!
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The sound system install. I did all of the wiring so it's all on me.
This is where you wonder why you even packed a certain thing?!? Quite a bit got donated or thrown away.
This thing had been ON my truck for about a year! I had no place to put it and certainly couldn't get it off by myself. It was one of the first things to be addressed. Finally got my truck back! One man operation and about 30 minutes to accomplish. This was one of my better ideas!
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The sound system install. I did all of the wiring so it's all on me.
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mwbailey
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OK, you really did throw me for a loop. Don't get on Garage Journal very often, but noticed the "salt box" tag at the top of the list today. Thinking I had liked it in times before, I opened the thread at the last page.
Wait, wait, haven't I seen this before?! Well, of course, I had, but going back to page one of the thread was required before I knew why. Seems this go-around has a bit more documentation of build.
I STILL like it! Good luck with theater. . . .
Wait, wait, haven't I seen this before?! Well, of course, I had, but going back to page one of the thread was required before I knew why. Seems this go-around has a bit more documentation of build.
I STILL like it! Good luck with theater. . . .
Yep...that's why it's the "RE-DO". I got the PhotoBucket "@#*>"ing" and decided to re-do the posting with pictures. The first time around had more GJ member exchange but I'm sticking in there as long as the WiFi holds up. Maybe my narratives are better this time because there are few comments this time around. It's been challenging to re-post everything to IMAGE SHACK and then re-post, with description, to GJ but its been.....like I said...challenging!
We'll see how it goes because The Shrine has....matured since 2008 and incorporating the changes/improvements in a logical/sequential manner that makes sense is....challenging.
I'm repeating myself...gotta get back to re-posting!
Thanks for noticing!
TurtleValley
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Thanks for going through the effort to repost. I am getting a lot of great ideas that I plan to steal from you!
HOTFR8
Banned
The draw handles I have just noticed. Very clever.
Flooring...what can I say? It's a floor...unless you've done one from scratch before! Then you know the forethought that needs to be put into it. From the slab on it was planned to have an Epoxy surface for the "drive on" spaces. The "shop area" was to have the black and white checker board 12" X 12" tiles finished off with a red (same type of tile cut to size) outline. The slab surface was prepared at that time of pouring for each application. The proposed Epoxy area was chemically etched and with a manual grinder for proper adhesion and the tile area was smoothed so no defects could be seen after the tile "set up". With that said, there was one speck of something that got caught under a piece of black tile! No one else can see it but it drives me crazy! I spent a lot of time...and water, curing the slab before any further work was done to assure no cracks......well, fewer cracks! I did get one slight surface crack that ran between the Epoxy area and the tiled area. I was able to float it and fix it to where if I did not point it out you wouldn't be able to find it.
Forming the slab on an existing slab of natural rock was interesting but I left that to the experts. This is where I got...involved. Prepping the surface was all important at his point.
Protecting the floor from drop pops and scrapes was a daily task. This wasn't my first floor to prep and I knew the importance of this phase.
Once the floors were done the task of protecting them became ever present. The guys helping me with the build did a good job. There was only one pop where a hammer fell off of a ladder so I was lucky.
The small round spot/hole you see in the next two pics is a drain in the floor. It leads to an outer wall with a 5 gallon bucket waiting to catch my mistakes. A 2 Post Lift is planned there and I'm sure to drop an oil pan or a transmission pan eventually. The floor is sloped toward the hole for easy draining. Sounded good at the time of planning and pouring the slab but ultimately I have a slanted floor surface under the rear of every auto I lift!! Try keeping a jack or an oil change "bucket thing" from rolling away mid job!!! If I was so smart I would have installed floor lighting pointed to the underside of the things I lift!! Light is GOOD!
The floors upstairs wasn't much of a problem. My concerns were temperature and sound control (Sound control is a good thing IF YOU HAVE A DAMN THEATER!!!). I had it insulated.....(the builder didn't like this idea) and installed laminate flooring on top of 2 layers of 4 X 8 flooring sheets. There's a horror story on this floor that happened in mid 2017. I'll get to that later.
Laminate went down with no issues. One of my smart ideas was to buy 6 extra boxes of the the Laminate run number that was installed. Stuck them in the attic....thought I wasted the $'s.....until the horror story!
Forming the slab on an existing slab of natural rock was interesting but I left that to the experts. This is where I got...involved. Prepping the surface was all important at his point.
Protecting the floor from drop pops and scrapes was a daily task. This wasn't my first floor to prep and I knew the importance of this phase.
Once the floors were done the task of protecting them became ever present. The guys helping me with the build did a good job. There was only one pop where a hammer fell off of a ladder so I was lucky.
The small round spot/hole you see in the next two pics is a drain in the floor. It leads to an outer wall with a 5 gallon bucket waiting to catch my mistakes. A 2 Post Lift is planned there and I'm sure to drop an oil pan or a transmission pan eventually. The floor is sloped toward the hole for easy draining. Sounded good at the time of planning and pouring the slab but ultimately I have a slanted floor surface under the rear of every auto I lift!! Try keeping a jack or an oil change "bucket thing" from rolling away mid job!!! If I was so smart I would have installed floor lighting pointed to the underside of the things I lift!! Light is GOOD!
The floors upstairs wasn't much of a problem. My concerns were temperature and sound control (Sound control is a good thing IF YOU HAVE A DAMN THEATER!!!). I had it insulated.....(the builder didn't like this idea) and installed laminate flooring on top of 2 layers of 4 X 8 flooring sheets. There's a horror story on this floor that happened in mid 2017. I'll get to that later.
Laminate went down with no issues. One of my smart ideas was to buy 6 extra boxes of the the Laminate run number that was installed. Stuck them in the attic....thought I wasted the $'s.....until the horror story!