richashley
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Re: Quick and Cheap Garage Door Insulation
Good job Jack, both in the garage and in maintaining domestic tranquility.
Good job Jack, both in the garage and in maintaining domestic tranquility.
Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT The 12-Gauge Garage
- Thread starter Jack Olsen
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Workspaces sized between 265 and 485 squarefeet.
dwaynerz
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Re: Quick and Cheap Garage Door Insulation
nice fix. am going to try the foam panel on my doors to see how much "warmer" my garage will be in the dead of a midwestern winter before i spend the bucks on an insulated garage door. i have a feeling they are insulated the same way.
nice fix. am going to try the foam panel on my doors to see how much "warmer" my garage will be in the dead of a midwestern winter before i spend the bucks on an insulated garage door. i have a feeling they are insulated the same way.
rogsmart
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Re: Quick and Cheap Garage Door Insulation
Daylight under the doors. hmmm you might want to upgrade your door seal to get a better seal against winter wind and rain. It'll also help with the sound.
Nice project.
Daylight under the doors. hmmm you might want to upgrade your door seal to get a better seal against winter wind and rain. It'll also help with the sound.
Nice project.
southalabama
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looked better green, but its your garage, and your wife.
markviii
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Hey, Szabo does have a nice ring to it! (That's my maiden name. I don't think I'm related to Mark, though, unless he's from Toledo and has a grandfather and grandmother named Nick and Marie. He looks too young for them to be his parents, but I could be wrong.)
Nice alterations in the garage, Jack. Nothing wrong with family participation. Enjoy those kids while you can. Time goes by in a blink (I mean, doesn't it seem like your son was born only yesterday? I feel like I just came home from the hospital with mine and they're 26 and 28! I don't feel that old. It's just another day in paradise around here.). Don't worry, though; they'll grow up while you're having your second childhood teaching them the lessons you've learned and how to do what you do, then they'll take care of you!
Chris
Nice alterations in the garage, Jack. Nothing wrong with family participation. Enjoy those kids while you can. Time goes by in a blink (I mean, doesn't it seem like your son was born only yesterday? I feel like I just came home from the hospital with mine and they're 26 and 28! I don't feel that old. It's just another day in paradise around here.). Don't worry, though; they'll grow up while you're having your second childhood teaching them the lessons you've learned and how to do what you do, then they'll take care of you!
Chris
rickairmedic
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Re: Quick and Cheap Garage Door Insulation
Dwayn it will make a huge differance . I actually used duct wrap ( I'm an HVAC guy )
on my old non insulated door and it made quite a differance in keeping my garage warm even when it got down to zero outside . I have a fully insulated factory door now and it is a little better than my home grown job but not a huge differance .
Rick
Dwayn it will make a huge differance . I actually used duct wrap ( I'm an HVAC guy )
on my old non insulated door and it made quite a differance in keeping my garage warm even when it got down to zero outside . I have a fully insulated factory door now and it is a little better than my home grown job but not a huge differance .Rick
Oggy
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When I worked at Lowe's we had different styles of insulated doors, one of them was insulated almost exactly the same way, and were more than $40 more. The best insulated models had interlocking panels, using a tongue and groove design, they also had aluminum cladding on the inside as well as the outside, encasing the insulation.
OP
The nice thing about living in southern California is that this project didn't need to be particularly good. It's 71° as I type this, and the average temperature is always pretty mild (by North American standards).
Still, I've noticed two days in a row now where we've had cool night-time temperatures, and the garage is six degrees warmer in the morning than the interior of my office, which is the other part of the same free-standing structure. I've got no idea why there'd be that kind of a gap. I don't think either side has insulation in the walls.
I like the green better in pictures, but the brown looks much better to my eyes when I'm actually standing in the garage. But that's a pretty minor consideration, either way. Most important, it's done.
Still, I've noticed two days in a row now where we've had cool night-time temperatures, and the garage is six degrees warmer in the morning than the interior of my office, which is the other part of the same free-standing structure. I've got no idea why there'd be that kind of a gap. I don't think either side has insulation in the walls.
I like the green better in pictures, but the brown looks much better to my eyes when I'm actually standing in the garage. But that's a pretty minor consideration, either way. Most important, it's done.
camarotoolman
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You got to be the most organized guy in the usa. Its too clean and nice to work in!
OP
A small detail today. I got the last of the parts I needed for my slowly-assembled batch of replacement grinders. All of these came used, but I like them better than the rag-tag group of HF grinders they replaced. And I guess I've got a soft spot for green.
Pictures of the office? It's not anything special. But I'll try to get some soon.
Pictures of the office? It's not anything special. But I'll try to get some soon.
Bob Heine
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Jack,
It's great to see you use the Norm Abrams system with your grinders. On This Old House and The New Yankee Workshop he always has a half-dozen routers (or other tools) handy with a different bit in each one so cabinet door making looked simple.
Stuart in MN
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I have a 1970s Rockwell belt sander that's the same shade of green as your grinders.
Omphaloskeptic
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Any bets on what is the office color? lol
I've been mistaken in thinking Jack's avatar shows him in his welding gear; silly me, those are his 'below 70 degree' duds!
I've been mistaken in thinking Jack's avatar shows him in his welding gear; silly me, those are his 'below 70 degree' duds!
OP
It's only 70 today. Brrr.
I warmed up the garage with a quick weld. In the time it took to make some mac and cheese for the kid in the microwave, I added one more strip of 1"x1/8" stock. Now I'm able to hang the four 4-1/2" grinders and one 9" on one side of the table and the two 6" grinders on the other.
And the other side:
Seven grinders hanging on that little table; band saw and bench grinder on top of it; table saw cradled underneath it.
I warmed up the garage with a quick weld. In the time it took to make some mac and cheese for the kid in the microwave, I added one more strip of 1"x1/8" stock. Now I'm able to hang the four 4-1/2" grinders and one 9" on one side of the table and the two 6" grinders on the other.
And the other side:
Seven grinders hanging on that little table; band saw and bench grinder on top of it; table saw cradled underneath it.
OP
I grew up north of Chicago, where the extremes of the weather make this area feel like it must be a joke every day (72° -- again?!). But now I've gotten used to it.
On the grinders, I bought a bunch of them second-hand, figuring some would become parts donors for the rest. It turns out these things do not die easily at all. So now I've got seven.
On the grinders, I bought a bunch of them second-hand, figuring some would become parts donors for the rest. It turns out these things do not die easily at all. So now I've got seven.
Zengineer
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7 metabo grinders Jack? Really? (Jealous)
I've heated my garage to a balmy 64°F today, and its much warmer than outside... and the sun is shining in full force.
You do a great job of hiding your clutter. I know it's there, I can see it occasionally in photos, but then you step back and you can't see any of it once again...
I've heated my garage to a balmy 64°F today, and its much warmer than outside... and the sun is shining in full force.
You do a great job of hiding your clutter. I know it's there, I can see it occasionally in photos, but then you step back and you can't see any of it once again...
Olliecampbell
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Just read through from page 20. A great thread but 2 questions...
What happened to all of the books? They looked great on show above the sink!
And, have you thought about trying to mount some lighting under your lift. So that when it's lifted you can just switch them on to highlight the engine?
Love the garage, it's given me the impetus to do something with mine! Now onto Google Sketch!
What happened to all of the books? They looked great on show above the sink!
And, have you thought about trying to mount some lighting under your lift. So that when it's lifted you can just switch them on to highlight the engine?
Love the garage, it's given me the impetus to do something with mine! Now onto Google Sketch!
OP
Thanks. The books are still in the same place -- in those 'mailbox-style' boxes above the sink. Now they don't get covered in metal dust or sawdust.
And yes, I've got some ideas for lighting from under the lift. I bought a gooseneck lamp on a recent trip to Ikea, but I haven't yet figured out the best way to switch it and where the best place to put it will be. I've also thought about putting some recessed lamps in the wall down by the engine-side of the lift for flood lighting. But I suspect a single light would be fine.
The other thing with the underside of the lift is in the just-in-case scenario of something going wrong with the hydraulics with the lift in the lowered position. On the one hand, I could drill through one of the tiles and the top steel plate and lift it from the hole. But I'm also keeping an eye out for one of those car jacks that use exhaust from the car. I could affix one of those to the underside of the platform and then use air from the compressor to inflate the balloon and lift the top platform of the lift out of the hole.
And yes, I've got some ideas for lighting from under the lift. I bought a gooseneck lamp on a recent trip to Ikea, but I haven't yet figured out the best way to switch it and where the best place to put it will be. I've also thought about putting some recessed lamps in the wall down by the engine-side of the lift for flood lighting. But I suspect a single light would be fine.
The other thing with the underside of the lift is in the just-in-case scenario of something going wrong with the hydraulics with the lift in the lowered position. On the one hand, I could drill through one of the tiles and the top steel plate and lift it from the hole. But I'm also keeping an eye out for one of those car jacks that use exhaust from the car. I could affix one of those to the underside of the platform and then use air from the compressor to inflate the balloon and lift the top platform of the lift out of the hole.
Wingnut65
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Jack, I missed hitting your door insulation project. It looks great! And I feel for you repainting after the insulation was in. Might have been quicker to paint the frame tan (from a new can). Although keeping peace with the Mrs keeps the projects flowing better.
Those grinders look sweet. Its always handy to have duplicates so you don't have to change the wheel or discs as much. Nice score!
Those grinders look sweet. Its always handy to have duplicates so you don't have to change the wheel or discs as much. Nice score!
Omphaloskeptic
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Jack, when you were prepping for the lift install, I could just imagine you giving it the whole Hollywood treatment. Remember the movie 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind'? You know, that part where the UFO's Mother-ship arrived at Devil's Tower with all the flashing lights and blaring musical tone's; that's what I imagined you could do for the lift's up/down motion. No one would be caught off-guard underneath the car, I guarantee it. 
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Red Leader
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It always feels good replacing lower quality tools with higher quality.
Jack, what type of bench grinder do you have?
An old 1960s 'engine block' Craftsman grinder would work wonders for your place
I've seen cherry ones from about $25 on C/L - might be something to keep an eye out for
Jack, what type of bench grinder do you have?
An old 1960s 'engine block' Craftsman grinder would work wonders for your place
I've seen cherry ones from about $25 on C/L - might be something to keep an eye out for
Olliecampbell
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How about....having something that could magnetically attach to the metallic edge of the lift and have a spare plug sat in the base of the list somewhere?
Take it off and store it when it's down. When it's up, let it 'clip' on to the edge of the lift and just plug it in.
Anyway, I'll stop day dreaming
ChristopherLutz
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Jack -
It's been a while since I've posted in this thread, but - I'm consistently amazed at your energy, attention to detail and your willingness to document so thoroughly - the "garage door insulation" thread was fantastic!
I'm glad someone else mentioned the painting / time estimate....I too must be the world's slowest painter and ALWAYS convince myself I should first "prime". I'm sure that's technically correct but it adds so much time to the job I never end up getting around to it.
On the color debate - I really liked them both. the door itself looks fantastic.
OK - enough accolades. I'd like to know how you sleep at night with that "raw wood" header exposed above the door. It's very "un-Olsen" like. I never noticed it before; but, like all good garage projects - the completely finished garage door kind of sets it off.
I'm sure you were looking for something else to do
PS: how is the voting going - when do we hear/get an update?
It's been a while since I've posted in this thread, but - I'm consistently amazed at your energy, attention to detail and your willingness to document so thoroughly - the "garage door insulation" thread was fantastic!
I'm glad someone else mentioned the painting / time estimate....I too must be the world's slowest painter and ALWAYS convince myself I should first "prime". I'm sure that's technically correct but it adds so much time to the job I never end up getting around to it.
On the color debate - I really liked them both. the door itself looks fantastic.
OK - enough accolades. I'd like to know how you sleep at night with that "raw wood" header exposed above the door. It's very "un-Olsen" like. I never noticed it before; but, like all good garage projects - the completely finished garage door kind of sets it off.
I'm sure you were looking for something else to do
PS: how is the voting going - when do we hear/get an update?
Originalspanksta
Active member
And the other side:
Seven grinders hanging on that little table; band saw and bench grinder on top of it; table saw cradled underneath it.
Still missing a Metabo die grinder....
OP
As it happens, I got one of those too.
It's tough to figure out guys who are bright enough to buy such nice tools, but then end up unloading them at a pawn shop.
It's tough to figure out guys who are bright enough to buy such nice tools, but then end up unloading them at a pawn shop.
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e3pres
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As it happens, I got one of those too.
It's tough to figure out guys who are bright enough to buy such nice tools, but then end up unloading them at a pawn shop.
That's easy. They steal them. My old company switched from high quality tools to cheap off-brand stuff for anything that was smaller than a boilermaker's lunchbox.
OP
Man, that takes a lot of the fun out of getting good deals on ebay, doesn't it?
But I'll bet you're right about that being the case a good deal of the time.
But I'll bet you're right about that being the case a good deal of the time.
bad_idea
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i always look tools over for engravings before buying them. most companies engrave their tools. i always wonder about someone listing 'brand new in box' on cl or the like. if it's bnib why don't you return it and get all your money back?......
kbuhagiar
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LAST DAY TO VOTE!
Folks, just a reminder to place your vote for Jack's garage project in the Handyman 2011 Do-It Yourself Contest:
http://www.familyhandyman.com/vote-for-the-2011-best-in-diy-projects
Jack is too modest to say it, but he deserves to win.
Vote Early and Vote Often!!!
GOOD LUCK JACK!
Folks, just a reminder to place your vote for Jack's garage project in the Handyman 2011 Do-It Yourself Contest:
http://www.familyhandyman.com/vote-for-the-2011-best-in-diy-projects
Jack is too modest to say it, but he deserves to win.
Vote Early and Vote Often!!!
GOOD LUCK JACK!
b4wscrambler
Member
Love the work space!
And Voted.
And Voted.
Bob Heine
ALLIANCE MEMBER
I voted this morning and it was accepted. I guess they meant through November 1, 2011.
Charles (in GA)
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It just took my vote, I figured it would not so I didn't bother to try today. Thanks for letting us know, Jack gets a few more votes this way.
Charles
Charles
markviii
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I voted this morning, too. It seemed to take it. Good luck, Jack!
Chris
Chris
muibubbles
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LOL 70*??? i live in NJ, had SNOW this weekend. my pilot light in the house wont light, and INSIDE is 57* LOL.... if youre in the kitchen barefoot for more then a minute your toes go numb, id take 70 anyyyyyy day =P
ps soo jelly on your grinders.
ps soo jelly on your grinders.
OP
Ken, Scrambler, Chris, Charles and Bob -- thanks for the votes. It looks like they closed it last night. Now it's just two long weeks to the results.
That storm was insane. I guess it still is insane for the people getting by without power.
That storm was insane. I guess it still is insane for the people getting by without power.
Have you checked the operation of the thermocouple?
rickairmedic
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Check the orfice on the pilot burner . Spiders like to get in there and make a mess of things
.Rick