Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT The 12-Gauge Garage

[Outlawmws]

Cool flic, but not for children.

The post I was replying to wasn't about kid flicks...

 

[Squankum]

Jack, I haven't been reading the thread for a few months, now I've caught up!

Sure, it seems slick, putting those screws into the tropical hardwood at an angle so they're not visibile, but if it were me, I'd have drilled straight in from the top, and used brass screws. Why? Because that boy needs to be sent out there twice a year with a tube of Simichrome polish and 500 Q tips. It builds character, son! Okay, maybe I had a weird childhood.

I mourn the loss of your place to store sh...er, ****. You know, with a few pivot points and a bottle jack and an electric motor, the whole thing could have tilted up and you could store ladders and scrap metal under there... too bad it's not a dry area. Wait! Next time you tear it all apart for version 2.0, dig a pit in the ground (another character-building experience for the son, circa 2023) and install a hydraulic lift table that can lift the whole shebang.

I'm not worried about subsidence and those concrete blocks. Where you live, my only real concern with the earth's crust is when it starts shaking and wiggling.

Great job on the canopy and deck, of course. And good luck beating off the throng of gay eurostalkers you'll be getting soon. Er, wait, that may be a poor choice of words...

 

[Hot Chop shop]

I wanna be like jack.

I just got this chair on Craigslist.

Thanks for all the inspiration.

 

[MarcBergeon]

Finally caught up on the entire thread! I must say, Jack, your thread was one of the most enjoyable reads I've had on any forum, actually.

Great work and truly inspirational!

 

[Jack Olsen]

Thanks, Marc.

Hot Chop shop, that's the exact chair I got. I'm still very happy with mine. I think you'll like it.

Squankum, I'd say I'm worried about the future, since I can't imagine any way I'd ever get him to polish anything. But he's still in pre-school, so I'll cut him some slack.

The other day, his mother signed him up for a woodworking thing on a school bus that's been converted to use as a kind of rolling shop class for little kids. Here's a picture of him sawing something. (That's as much as I could get; grown-ups weren't allowed on the bus.)

I wouldn't have expected him to like it as much as he did. But he did, and that led to a discussion about having his own bench in the garage.

I'm not sure where I'm going to keep the thing when he's not using it. But the project started yesterday. He's got his own vise. Some basic tools are on the way. We're going to have to work out a good way to store them.

Problem is, he wants the undercarriage painted brown, not green.

 

[wjamyers]

holy ****!! lucky kid.

 

[1Garageman]

As far as where to keep it, you might not be able to this in your garage.
But I bought a couple of bicycle lifts and attached them to things I wanted up in the air to save room on the floor! They only cost $6 for a pair of two of them.
(Can't show a pic because I am not at home right now, but this should help)

 

[Squankum]

You going to buy him his first clamp?




EDIT:
And soon will be the time for him to use his first 20% Harbor Freight coupon!

 

[akdiesel]

Problem is, he wants the undercarriage painted brown, not green.

Great Father / Son project. Even they have to start their own trend at some time.

 

[VWPORSCHEGT3]

For my own personal preferences, I'd like to bother the neighbors with the sound of the Porsche 917s in Le Mans.

But it's the toddlers who decide, and the closest I've gotten so far is the 1969 version of Herbie the Love Bug.

i need to get me a copy of le mans... love that movie

 

[Jack Olsen]

Here's a little more progress on Max's bench. He wanted it to be the same as the one he worked on at school, so it's a kind of odd assortment of stuff. I had to find the egg-beater drill second-hand.

Here are two views.

But he likes it. He says he wants to make a robot out of wood.

 

[LCG]

I don't know if it has been said before but congrats on your petrolicius feature. better late than never

 

[zcar751]

Great garage, really makes me want to spend more time on mine. I just need to figure out how I can get work to pay me and let me spend my time in my shop.

 

[markviii]

Where's the eye protection? Gotta have a convenient spot for the safety glasses so he puts them on before picking up a tool.

Great bench - letting him have it in his style/colors will entice him to use it often! Can't wait to see the robot.

Chris

 

[HOTFR8]

Where's the eye protection? Gotta have a convenient spot for the safety glasses so he puts them on before picking up a tool.

Great bench - letting him have it in his style/colors will entice him to use it often! Can't wait to see the robot.

Chris

Good point Chris, we can and should never stop educating the younger set about safety.

 

[Malinin Roman]

Greetings from Russia.=) Jack Olsen you have a good garage and children.

 

[Hot Chop shop]

Hey jack... I am trying to restore my chair that is like yours... I found the Bronze you mentioned to repaint it and plan to have the vinyl redone... My question is what did you use to restore the chromed loop around the lower portion of the chair? I have some slight rust on that loop and the tops of the wheels... was thinking steel wool pad and some kind of polish?

Thanks!

 

[Jack Olsen]

Thanks!

And I agree on the eye protection thing. I've got them front and center, right by the ear muffs.

Of course, there he is in the photo not wearing them.

But I brought him out to take the pictures. Somewhere during the shooting, I had him put them on. He stayed and worked for a while on some aspect of his 'robot' idea and wore the glasses for the rest of his stay (I promise!).

Hey jack... I am trying to restore my chair that is like yours... I found the Bronze you mentioned to repaint it and plan to have the vinyl redone... My question is what did you use to restore the chromed loop around the lower portion of the chair? I have some slight rust on that loop and the tops of the wheels... was thinking steel wool pad and some kind of polish?

I think that's a great idea. In my case, the wheel was in okay shape, so I simply masked it off before I spray-bombed the thing. But steel wool (with maybe some penetrating oil) ought to do it. Then a chrome polish if you want the thing to shine.

 

[Outlander]

Here's a little more progress on Max's bench. He wanted it to be the same as the one he worked on at school, so it's a kind of odd assortment of stuff. I had to find the egg-beater drill second-hand.

Jack - I still have the 'egg beater drill' my Dad gave me when I was that age. In fact, I have Dad's and mine in the home workshop. I haven't used it for years, but I do remember the lessons about keeping the drill straight. I can still remember seeing my Dad's hands on top of mine so the drill was properly oriented.

I'm sure you two guys will be making similar memories.

That bus is too cool! Wish there was one for adults!

 

[Omphaloskeptic]

Jack, you've just got to find a miniature version of your stool for Max!

He'll probably want it painted brown to match the bench. lol

He's really going to treasure these pics of him working in 'Dad's Garage' someday.

 

[Outlawmws]

Thanks!

And I agree on the eye protection thing. I've got them front and center, right by the ear muffs.

Of course, there he is in the photo not wearing them.

But I brought him out to take the pictures. Somewhere during the shooting, I had him put them on. He stayed and worked for a while on some aspect of his 'robot' idea and wore the glasses for the rest of his stay (I promise!).

I think that's a great idea. In my case, the wheel was in okay shape, so I simply masked it off before I spray-bombed the thing. But steel wool (with maybe some penetrating oil) ought to do it. Then a chrome polish if you want the thing to shine.

THIS ^^^ Fine Steel wool and oil usually takes care of light rust on chrome.

Jack, That is a great setup for your boy! I made a miniature wood workers bench (Even has the tool tray/pocket on the back side) for my son back when he was three, and a total fan of Norm Abram's "New Yankee Workshop". (He preferred that to cartoons!)

When he got it for his third birthday, he charged up to it, ripped the giant bow off of it, stood behind it and recited the "safety speach" immeadiatly!

We still have that thing awaiting a grandchild (Preferably AFTER one of my kids gets married... )

 

[rharman]

Speaking from experience in my childhood, I have a suggestion.....

Replace the nails/screws holding the tools, glasses, etc. with something a little more flesh-friendly. Maybe a shaker peg?


But, what an awesome father-son project. Is he saving his allowance for a trip to Harbor Freight?

 

[bluebolt]

Even Jack's son has a better workbench than me.....

 

[Squankum]

It came to me today: the little 5 inchers.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002A021WS/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Okay, at his age, nothing more than HF is justified, but... these might be a good size for him.

 

[1Garageman]

Very nice looking!
I have a question, what is this part used for?

 

[MadMechMaster]

That's the adjustment slot. You push the silver button and move the jaws apart or closer. That's what makes these so strong, instead of friction to hold the jaws, it uses the notches.

 

[michel]

Very nice looking!
I have a question, what is this part used for?

to extend the size of the pliers.
Same as chanelocks pliers

 

[bimmerZ5]

hi jack! love the garage, but love your project for Max even more! how old is Max?

 

[Nighttrain]

Jack I know you have engineered this car to the T but does the factory tail/wing on the eng hood cause any up-flow/disturbance onto your wing?

Only asking because I am now flying a 1967 Huey which has had some modifications for performance and most are for airflow. I am slowing starting to understand the idea and see some of this on your car. As always you Sir are an inspiration on this board. Thank You

 

[Squankum]

Very nice looking!
I have a question, what is this part used for?

Walnuts and acorns? Just kidding.

The other guys answered.

Knipex Cobras are similar to Channellocks, except:
a) once you select your size slot, you're not losing it if the pliers get flopped around, the pushbutton keeps it locked on that slot.
b) there are a LOT of sizes to choose from among those teeth. More options than a Chanellock, and the cheaper Knipex Alligator.

 

[Jack Olsen]

Jack, you've just got to find a miniature version of your stool for Max!

He'll probably want it painted brown to match the bench. lol

He's really going to treasure these pics of him working in 'Dad's Garage' someday.

When I showed my older brother a picture, he immediately remembered the one my dad made for him when he was 5. So hopefully, you're right.

(Of course, it also made me think: how come Dad never made me a bench? But I'll let it go. )

THIS ^^^ Fine Steel wool and oil usually takes care of light rust on chrome.

Jack, That is a great setup for your boy! I made a miniature wood workers bench (Even has the tool tray/pocket on the back side) for my son back when he was three, and a total fan of Norm Abram's "New Yankee Workshop". (He preferred that to cartoons!)

When he got it for his third birthday, he charged up to it, ripped the giant bow off of it, stood behind it and recited the "safety speach" immeadiatly!

We still have that thing awaiting a grandchild (Preferably AFTER one of my kids gets married... )

I never saw any real interest from my son until he went on that wood working bus. But I'll take it any way I can get it.

I'm very impressed that your son watched the New Yankee Workshop. Mine still prefers Tom & Jerry reruns.

Speaking from experience in my childhood, I have a suggestion.....

Replace the nails/screws holding the tools, glasses, etc. with something a little more flesh-friendly. Maybe a shaker peg?

But, what an awesome father-son project. Is he saving his allowance for a trip to Harbor Freight?

That's a good idea. I checked for the likelihood of a snag there, and they're farther in than the overhang. But I'll keep an eye out for some pegs for that spot.

Here is his first project, which we picked up at Lowe's. It's more of a model than a project, and pretty rudimentary -- the only thing required is that the pieces be nailed together. But when you're 5, I guess nailing is fun. He liked doing it.

Even Jack's son has a better workbench than me.....

It's funny. The plywood on his bench is probably the most expensive wood in the shop. A friend of mine bought it to make some desks for him and his wife. I welded the legs for him and cut the wood. He didn't have any use for the leftover plywood, and neither did I until this bench idea came up.

It came to me today: the little 5 inchers.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002A021WS/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Okay, at his age, nothing more than HF is justified, but... these might be a good size for him.

I'm glad people agree that it makes sense to buy tools that he can break or lose without it being too big a deal. A part of me wanted to get him better stuff, but I think that was more for me than him. He's just happy to have a saw.

So if he sticks with it, maybe he'll get some German tools. But for now, he gets leftovers and cheapies.

hi jack! love the garage, but love your project for Max even more! how old is Max?

Thanks. He just turned 5.

Jack I know you have engineered this car to the T but does the factory tail/wing on the eng hood cause any up-flow/disturbance onto your wing?

Only asking because I am now flying a 1967 Huey which has had some modifications for performance and most are for airflow. I am slowing starting to understand the idea and see some of this on your car. As always you Sir are an inspiration on this board. Thank You

What model of Huey?

I'm still pretty ignorant about aero, really. But a guy who does it for a living took pity on me a few years back and made a digital model of my car for his company's computer system. I think he'd seen a picture of my ill-fated 911 diffuser design. In any case, he guided me through some of the stuff I built.

As I understand it, the spoiler and the wing don't interact much, and both function in different ways. The spoiler mostly reduces adhesion along the 'fast back' rear section of the car. Surprisingly, it both reduces lift and also reduces drag back there. It might also change the angle of the airflow as it hits the wing. I'm not sure, because I've never tested that airflow without the spoiler in place.

Porsche did wind tunnel testing both with and without the ducktail.

What they found matched up with a lot of my own 'poor man's' wind tunnel testing (which is to say: freeway driving).

The reassuring thing about combining the spoiler and the wing is that Porsche does it, now.

 

[Bib Overalls]

October Hot Rod magazine. Page 48.

Jack, Does your wife know about your new friend Bailee?

 

[Jack Olsen]

How did you get it that early? I haven't seen it yet. (Neither has my wife. )

 

[98TJ]

Here is his first project, which we picked up at Lowe's. It's more of a model than a project, and pretty rudimentary -- the only thing required is that the pieces be nailed together. But when you're 5, I guess nailing is fun. He liked doing it.

Lowe's has Kids Build and Grow where you can take them for workshops on Saturdays and they can build the same kits that Lowe's sells (and several they don't) for free. Home Depot also has kids workshops. Go online and sign up.

You say that the only thing required is for the pieces to be nailed together but you should see the parents helping their kids. I really don't understand how an adult male could bend a 1" nail when knocking it into a pre-drilled hole.

 

[Jack Olsen]

Well, somebody sent me a cell phone picture of the Hot Rod article. I can't read it -- but it's cool to see the garage in a magazine with a model sitting in the place, like, you know, it would make sense for her to be sitting there.

Lowe's has Kids Build and Grow where you can take them for workshops on Saturdays and they can build the same kits that Lowe's sells (and several they don't) for free. Home Depot also has kids workshops. Go online and sign up.

You say that the only thing required is for the pieces to be nailed together but you should see the parents helping their kids. I really don't understand how an adult male could bend a 1" nail when knocking it into a pre-drilled hole.

I've thought about signing him up for one of those things. But then, I think we might have more fun coming up with our own stuff in the garage. That way no one will see me bending over those little 1" nails.

 

[Adam McLaughlin]

Bravo Jack
Well done

Adam

 

[flybefree]

Jack,

Love the bench you made for Max, my oldest turns 5 next month...thinking I need to do the same!

v/r

Shaun

 

[BeachBoy]

I wouldn't be able to work a single minute with her in my garage.. too.much.distraction.

and on an unrelated note, damn a ducktail looks good on a Porsche!!

 

[Modifieddriver]

Great Article on your shop on HOT ROD .

I would also be distracted. But I'd be trying to make something while she was there, if ya' know what I mean .

 

[onemore]

how many articles does that make now? 3-4? i saw the Popular Mechanics one, Hot Rod, ?? Congrats and still love the shop, with or without her!