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I keep checking up on this gallery to see what new stuff Jack has put in here. Jack I think you need to get your own TV Show:thumbup:. I honestly think that you would have plenty of viewers. I love the good quality work that you do and the IDEAS that you have are awesome. Keep updating this link!:beer:
 
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Jack, I got the same problem with measuring. Of course my slight exaggeration helped me in obtaining some dates off the internet.

Got 11 dates out of my wife before my measuring skills where called out. It was to late at that point, I had her.

:)

:( i only got one weekend of laying pipe until she started questioning my measureing skills :(

guess i made up in other areas of expertise..

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The place got cleaned up today in prep for this coming weekend's engine swap for the 911. So here's a picture from a few hours ago.

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And here's the car's (and the garage's?) future owner -- just past the age of two.

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The new engine is under the blue tarp down at the end of the driveway.
 

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Jack, now I know why you had time to do such a great job mate...the little bloke gives us the meaning of life.

Magic photo!!
 
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The engine is dirty and used. But for context: the car came with 140-hp motor. The one I put in 10 years ago was 247. This one is 270. I know that's not a lot, by contemporary (or 930) standards -- but the car has a nice balance of lightness, power, and rubber.

Here it is at Laguna Seca
 
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I assume this is the wife back here?
That's her. I didn't see that she was in the picture until I was sizing it down to upload.

Found this video of you racing wish show what gear you are in.
http://www.gofastvideo.com/video/884/Jack-Olsen--1972-Porsche-911-36-RSR

I was wondering do you have any video's that also show the speed? I am always curious when I watch your videos how fast you are going in each gear.

This one shows some of the speeds. Same track, but a little bit faster.
 

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I followed your thread here and love the garage and Black Beauty II. I see you all the time on Pelican and cant help but wonder the specs on the new engine! Are you putting it in or going back to TRE? Sorry to derail but the P-cars are where my passion lies!
-Scott
 

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Hey Jack,

That will be a great engine swap for you.

Keep us updated on how it goes.

BTW I take my little 3 yoa grandson to Home Depot all the time. He is learning his tools as fast as I can teach him. I pull the cart up by the different tools and say pliers, sockets, screwdrivers, etc. and he points them out. His favorite are the tape measures as he loves to pull them out and watch them retract.

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I'm writing up the engine swap tomorrow. I finally got the garage re-cleaned-out today. It's back where it started:

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The only visible difference with the car is the exhaust. For reference, here's the older, right-before-the-swap picture:

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Comparing the two, I guess you can also see that I hit the rear window with some plastic polish and cleaned up the chrome trim on it. Very slight differences, visually. But it's a new lease on life for the car. :beer:

(Do I know how to stand in the same place to take a picture, or what?)
 
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Note: This is largely copied from a post on the Pelican Parts Porsche 911 BBS, so there might be some references that -- like HAMB references on this board -- might not make sense to guys who don't post on that board.

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The perfunctory engine bay shot. Notice how clean I am in the picture. It wasn't me doing the heavy lifting on this one.


The Background

I've been on this board for 10 years, now, building, repairing (and driving) what I consider to be basically the same car I started with. What's the old story about Granpa's Hammer? It's had four handles and two heads, but it's still the same hammer Granpa used to use. Well, my 911 has had two tubs, three paint jobs and two engines -- all in one decade. But it's still my car.

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I got the garage cleaned up before Tyson made the trip down.


The 964 3.6 engine I put in back in 2000 has outlasted the original mechanic who put it in (lost to a heart attack, sadly), and been through ten years of mostly once-a-month trips to the track. I've run it in POC events, Open Track Racing events, ACRA events, Speedventures events, NASA events, SpeedTrial USA events, Alfa club events, NCRC and ARC events. I've done several seasons of time trialing, one full season of wheel to wheel racing, and three consecutive years of the Open Track Challenge, which involved time trialing on seven tracks in seven consecutive days and driving the same car between tracks.

I drive it to all its track events and also drive it quite a lot as a street car. This includes SoCal canyon runs, like the New Years Day Hangover Rally, but also a lot of just around-town errand running and weekend trips.

I have no idea how many miles I've put on the motor. I once added up the track hours and it was in the hundreds.

So it's no surprise that the old boy started stumbling. It was a used motor when I got it. It's never had any major work done on it at all -- it's never been opened up. Its last track event was back in April, and as you can see from this video taken by a guy driving a built Z28, the car wasn't smoking. But was it down on power? Well, yes -- watch the way he eats me alive on the straights.

YouTube - 1969 Camaro Z28 vs Jack Olsen's 1972 Porsche RSR

The problem was apparent in the leakdown numbers. One cylinder (#1) in particular was pretty much dead. The rest were just hanging on. So...

The Project

Rebuild or replace -- that's the question you face. On the one hand, rebuilds are getting more and more expensive every year as engine parts become more scarce. Replacement motors are getting older and scarcer. But replacing a motor with a used unit is a gamble under the best of circumstances -- and while it was easy enough to find a low mileage 964 motor ten years ago, all of the air-cooled 3.6's are now a decade older and a decade scarcer. Buying a 7-year-old motor didn't seem too crazy in 2000. But now that same motor is going to be 17 years old...

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The patient is ready for surgery.


The Budget

So, you look at your options. With a new kid and the bills that come with that, I'm no longer able to throw money around like confetti (I never really could, but...). At the end of the day, I decided to try and simply replicate what I had done before. Buy a used motor and sell the old one. After a couple of months of patiently going through ebay and other online listings, and one bad experience where a scam artist in England was selling a motor that was only a set of stolen pictures (I caught it in time; no money lost), I found a motor that looked to be right for what I wanted. It was a 1995 993 motor, which meant it had some minor improvements over my old 964 powerplant. Of course, this also meant I needed some different parts (wiring harness adapter and an oil line adapter, basically), but Steve Timmins remembered me as his first west-coast customer back in 2000, and got me just the parts I needed from his kit.

Most importantly, Tyson Schmidt agreed to come down from Washington state. I've been friends with Tyson since he posted as 'Brainiac' on the Pelican Parts Porsche BBS. When I crashed BB1 at Laguna Seca and had to move everything over to a new chassis on a ridiculously short schedule, he was the one who turned the wrenches and reinvented the car with a new suspension and a host of other improvements (he was working at TRE Motorsports at the time). No one knows the car like he does, and I was lucky to be able to pester him into coming down and helping me do the swap. (And by 'helping me do the swap,' of course I mean 'doing the swap, while I cleaned parts, ran out for items we were missing, picked up lunch, and generally got in the way.)

The visit

Complicating matters further was a visit from my parents -- the first in two years -- that was going to fall on the same weekend as the swap. But this turned out to be kind of cool -- my folks were driving out to Los Angeles from Chicago, not flying -- and also then driving up to northern Idaho for the next leg of the trip. They're both 80, and it's a testament to how much we Olsens love driving that this 5000 mile drive (it's not his first, or his second, or his third) was not a big deal at all to my father. No surprise: Tyson and he got along very well.

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Oil draining.
 
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Tyson Schmidt, master of all things Porsche -- even when he's got to work in a driveway. And in those shoes. ;)


The Schedule

Tyson got in late on Thursday, but wanted to get the new motor apart to see if we needed specific parts -- so we could get them on Friday. In fact, we did, and circumstances conspired to have us looking for a list of seals, filters and a new clutch after lunchtime on Friday. Who came to our rescue and made sure a truck got the parts to Pelican's location before the end of the day Friday? Wayne of Pelican Parts, of course. He made it look easy. I'm very grateful.

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That's my 80-year-old Dad working with Tyson.


On Friday, Tyson pulled the old engine and started transfering pieces over to the new one. The engine had some surprises, unfortunately. We learned there'd been a fire in the engine bay, at some point. Some parts that were damaged we were able to grab from the 964 motor. Some I had to go back to Wayne for.

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The new motor is in the car.


Saturday was the big day. The new engine was in and Tyson went through the all the electrical connections. The evidence of fire had us nervous, although the damage was pretty localized. Still, when it came time to crank, the engine would not start. It's the thing you dread when you've shelled out your hard-earned money for an engine from a stranger. But Tyson stayed on task through it all, isolating each piece of what needed to be going on in order to identify the failure.

We found that flames had been drawn into the intake -- they'd melted and distorted the screen on the MAF and covered the sensor itself in black carbon and other gunk. Pelicanite James Shira was at the house for a lot of the work and he graciously spotted me some components from his own Tyson-Schmidt-built 1995 993 motor so everything could keep moving forward. First up was his MAF sensor.

Still, the engine had spark, and also got the initial rush of start-up fuel, but then the signal to the injectors was simply not there. Next up, the DME itself from James' car...

Now, it was Sunday by the time we had the new DME in hand, and Tyson's fiance had been very graciously making do without her man for longer than anyone had expected at this point. She was a trooper throughout, and the payoff came early Sunday when James' DME went in, and -

VROOM!

We had a lift-off. Fire problems and some missing pieces and a bad DME notwithstanding, the engine fired up without smoke, ran quiet as a kitten once the oil had pressurized the hydraulic valve adjusters. 200 miles later, I'm still grinning from ear to ear whenever I'm sitting in the car. (It's like falling in love all over again.)

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Running! The make-shift exhaust is simply the 993 cat -- and some tips from the hardware store.


This has been a Pelicanite project from day one, and Ingo Schmitz is currently seeing if he can repair the DOA DME unit. James has been so busy with work that he's let me hold onto the loaner box (thanks, James!).

I've wanted to try a Steve Wong chip for a long time, and he's going to customize one for this car on the dyno when the DME is ready. I have to say that I'm already spoiled, though, since James' DME already has a Steve Wong chip in it. Even without the chip being custom matched, the engine runs great. The lightweight flywheel has already with James' programming. The first thing Tyson noticed was that my taller-than-stock 2nd gear suddenly feels appropriate for the car. With the 964 motor, you had to lug a little when you were coming up to speed in street driving. (My car has a very tall second, stock third, very short fourth and basically a regular fourth as a fifth gear, which keeps the ratios close for track driving).

The only downside has been the after-sale relationship with the seller. He acknowledged that there'd been a fire that he hadn't told me about, refused to do anything about the damage to the MAF sensor that it caused, refused to do anything about the dead-on-arrival DME unit, and didn't do anything about the pieces that he said he was sending but never showed up. I've never had an experience like this through three engines and over a decade of buying parts for my car. I gave him repeated chances to try to address the situation and got nothing in return.

On the plus side, though. I've got an engine that feels very strong, has none of the idling issues that my 'flat five' was having in its final months. And the intangible-but-really-cool part of it was getting to be there to see Tyson do his thing with no lift, sparse tools and a complete map to several overlapping generations of 911 components all up in his head as he worked. He knows these things inside and out -- and also has a genuine and driving passion for the 911 that you can see in everything he does. It's a blast to watch an artist at work.

I'll post updates as the new chip goes in and then have a complete report from the car's next track day, September 22nd at Willow Springs.
 
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The new exhaust sits a little lower than the old one -- there had been more heat damage than I'd liked. An unexpected bonus: no resonance with the Magnaflow, which had been an annoyance with the Flowmaster.



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The new engine is almost 2" further forward than most, thanks to Tyson.



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Here's the engine itself. Nothing shiny and clean in this engine bay it's kind of a 'Rat Rod' look. I blacked out the heater blower bracket and the AC compressor support.



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The garage is cleaned out again. Here's Black Beauty 2.1. :)
 
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Wow, that is impressive. One day I am going to own a 911 and hope to come close to what you have done with that car and garage.
 

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Brute+Beautiful=

Brutiful

Love it, classic shell with a modern heart. Congratulations on the transplant
 

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I'd be nervous, running your car around the track, after all the work you've put into your car, but come to think about it, day to day traffic, is not a lot better.

It will be interesting to hear how the replacement engine performs, compared to the old one.
 

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Looking good Jack!

I have some random questions that I should probably ask on Pelican:

What motor mounts did you use?

Does your car have a lightweight flywheel? Is that even an issue with your '95 engine and the Steve Wong chip?

Have you thought about a single belt RS pulley?

How does the new engine sound, compared to the 964 engine?

I'm going to check out your Pelican posts!

This thread is one of my favorites.
 
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It will be interesting to hear how the replacement engine performs, compared to the old one.
Originally, the car came with a 140-hp 2.4-liter motor. But I replaced that in 2000 with a 247-hp 3.6-liter motor from a 1993 car. There was a big performance jump with that swap. The 1995 3.6 is very similar to the 1993 3.6. It's rated at 270-hp, thanks to slightly larger intake and exhaust ports and slightly less rotating mass. I'll know more about this particular engine after it goes on the dyno for its chip tuning. I don't expect there will be a huge difference between this and the previous motor (at least when it was in good health), but I've been stuck at 1:29.1X at my local track for two years now, and I'm hoping this motor might get me the 2/10 of a second I need to get into the 28's.

Looking good Jack!

I have some random questions that I should probably ask on Pelican: What motor mounts did you use? Does your car have a lightweight flywheel? Is that even an issue with your '95 engine and the Steve Wong chip? Have you thought about a single belt RS pulley? How does the new engine sound, compared to the 964 engine? I'm going to check out your Pelican posts! This thread is one of my favorites.
Thanks! I have solid mounts in the rear and sport mounts at the transaxle. The car does have a lightweight flywheel, which would cause problems with a stock chip, but is addressed by the Steve Wong chip. Yes, I have thought about the single pulley, and plan on getting it one of these days. The new exhaust is a Magnaflow, and it's smaller/more open than the old Flowmaster (I don't spend much on my mufflers). It's slightly louder than it was before, but doesn't have the resonance sound between 2K and 3K that used to bug me in street driving.

What year is your 993?
 

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Jack,
Thanks for posting the link. Looks to me like you've got the line at Willow Springs down PAT! If that's you with a cylinder dying you must be airborne with all six!
I think I heard the Z driver say you're turning somewhere around 1:40 or 1:41's...then he says he's only able to do it because he's following your line.

The car still sounds fabulous to me at WOT. I thought you said he eats you up on the straights? To me it looks like he hangs with you but only +/- near the beginning of the video then its YOU that eats him up by half or 2/3' of the way through.

I'm also impressed with the narrow body duck-tailed car late in the video. He can't hang with you obviously, but he's staying ahead of the Z with no problem and to the point of making the Z lock 'em up and just about lose it for a second.

Fun, fun, fun looking time. I never tracked my Middy but I do admit to a few (in hindsight) ill advised runs through Mulholland and a couple out near Aqua Dulce. I scared myself with those and my little 2.7. Though it ran excellent it wouldn't hold a candle to your car...not to mention the old-*** driver it had behind the wheel!!! Gawd, I got a charge vicariously from this. Makes me want my Pcar back.

(Let's see...if I sell can the '46 truck for $9-10k, then look for a roller....and then....)
 
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This was the first big automotive project in the garage since I cleaned it up. Moving two motors around meant I couldn't back the car in. But I strung a tarp above the mouth of the garage so that there wouldn't be direct sunlight on us while we worked.

More space and a lift would be great -- but it was cool to see how the whole garage ended up getting used as stuff was broken down, cleaned and worked on. The ceramic tile held up fine, even with a teetering 500-pound motor being wheeled across it on top of a heavy Sears floor jack.

Here's the car sitting empty with two motors in pieces.

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For the times when work had to be done from below, I used some old padded floor-covering squares that had been in my kid's playroom a while back.

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(If you can help it, never throw anything away.)
 

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That first pic of you in the engine bay looks TOTALLY P-shopped. It's like just the top of you is floating over the back of the car!!

Your threads always remind me of a guy I knew who had a 911 and he would pull the engine on a regular basis. He had it down to a science, less than 2 hours all-told. He'd pull it just to play with the parts and put it back. Got him a divorce in the end (fair warning!!).

I noted a "possible' typo under the heading "The Visit". You wrote "manner" when you may have meant "matters" (I say "possible" as you're the writer!)
 
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Thanks.

Manners to matters. Fixed. That's what you get for writing something while you're waiting in line for a new street parking permit. :rolleyes:

Tyson, who does this sort of thing for a living, can pull a motor in something like 20 minutes. The old 911's are very simple -- no power steering, power brakes, any of that. Fuel, wire harness, oil lines and the connection to the transaxle is about all there is. It makes for a quick repair if you're racing at Le Mans, I guess.

And these things do break up a lot of marriages, it's true. I'll be careful.
 

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Originally, the car came with a 140-hp 2.4-liter motor. But I replaced that in 2000 with a 247-hp 3.6-liter motor from a 1993 car. There was a big performance jump with that swap. The 1995 3.6 is very similar to the 1993 3.6. It's rated at 270-hp, thanks to slightly larger intake and exhaust ports and slightly less rotating mass. I'll know more about this particular engine after it goes on the dyno for its chip tuning. I don't expect there will be a huge difference between this and the previous motor (at least when it was in good health), but I've been stuck at 1:29.1X at my local track for two years now, and I'm hoping this motor might get me the 2/10 of a second I need to get into the 28's.

Thanks! I have solid mounts in the rear and sport mounts at the transaxle. The car does have a lightweight flywheel, which would cause problems with a stock chip, but is addressed by the Steve Wong chip. Yes, I have thought about the single pulley, and plan on getting it one of these days. The new exhaust is a Magnaflow, and it's smaller/more open than the old Flowmaster (I don't spend much on my mufflers). It's slightly louder than it was before, but doesn't have the resonance sound between 2K and 3K that used to bug me in street driving.

What year is your 993?

My car is a '95. It's pretty much stock but I do have the single fan belt pulley, wevo mounts and a light weight flywheel. It does stall from time to time although it's possible to eliminate most of this by keeping the revs up. I'm very interested in hearing how you like the Steve Wong chip as it seems to have a great reputation and is pretty inexpensive as far as 993 mods go. I'd like to update the suspension in the future. Other than that and the chip I'll probably keep it stock.

My son has a '90 964 and his engine is very similar to mine.

When will your car be ready?
 
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I'm jealous of that single pulley. I'll have a complete report for you on the Steve Wong chip soon.
 

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I'll have a complete report for you on the Steve Wong chip soon.

Awesome! I look forward to reading your impressions of the Steve Wong chip.

The single pulley is an easy enough DIY. When I bought mine the parts were around $100 but that was four or five years ago. Sunset Porsche in Portland is where I ordered them. If you drive in traffic a lot this is not a good mod, but for the track it makes sense.
 

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Hey Jack,

Impressive setup. Very inspiring to do so much with such a small sum. You have inspired me to start garage sale hunting for tool chests, cabinets and anything else I can turn into something useful for my garage.
 
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