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Ah yes I can see the pictures today :thumbup:

Now then I wonder what Jack his mind ?

Maybe the cabinet will get cut into two ?

Go on Jack, give us a clue ! :)
 
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Nothing too big. It's always bugged me that there's wasted space behind the HF tool chest. The HF chest is 18" deep, and there's 10" of dead space behind it.

The new cabinet will get chopped in two, basically, with new header and footer sections and maybe a custom space for the compressed air reel outlet. And the two pieces will go on either side so that there's an area where you can sit (with leg space under the bench) in the center. I also want to make use of the space between the cabinet with the pegboard and the top of the bench.

I don't really know what the end result will look like -- there might be a lower section in the center, for example. But I've got some time to think about it. I won't even get started on this before my next work thing is finished. So like I said, maybe two months or so from now.

But the idea is to add more storage and also have a good place where I can sit instead of stand for when I'm working on something small.
 

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Jack,
I rarely covet things. Until I saw it in your thread, I didn't need or want a portable band saw. I think I would have been OK if you just used it as a portable. When I saw it mounted on the table in your vise, I was hooked. I missed out on a dozen that sold for less but this week I acquired a Milwaukee 6230 Band Saw. Looks to be in good shape and for half the price of a new one, I'm happy. The table is next.

Not coveting the 911...not coveting the 911...not.....
 

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Ever see a tire do this?

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It was my own fault -- that tire was easily 20 years old. :eek:

Yes, I've seen tires do that! Old rubber started to separate from steel cords. Replace all 5 (if the spare is the same age). Be glad it happened the way it did, I've seen a lot more damage when this happens!
 
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I ordered a full new set from TireRack today.

You're right about me being lucky. The cabinet is very heavy. It could have been very bad.
 

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Glad you ordered all new. My F-350 had this happen on the front left this last summer on my way home from work. At 65 mph I crossed three lanes hit a guard rail and was in the air and into the ditch. I could not believe how much force the truck turned to the left. All I could do was hit the breaks and hold on. Luckly no one was coming from the other direction. Those tire were only three years old too. Looking forward to your new project.
 

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Caution Flag out. Looks like Jack Olsen has a tire that shredded. Could be debris in the right lane that cause a puncture or the tire got too hot and let go. That could have been a bad deal. Glad he kept it off the wall. Looks like all the other drivers missed him and got around safely. Pits are open, so he'll be in for a four tire change. On a big track like the 10, he probably won't lose a lap.
 
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It's funny, it actually was a moment where what I've learned driving on a track carried over to a moment on the highway, Zeke. It was one of those instances where it isn't what you 'know' to do, it's what you automatically do when the rear end steps out. But e even so, it wasn't too sudden a change. I think most drivers could have handled this particular incident. That isn't always the case.

Looks like you need a couple more grinders.

I won't defend having so many. And the thing of it is, that's an old picture. I got rid of the ones you see and replaced them with a set of seven that I got second hand. One is a 9", two are 6", and four are 4.5". Strange as it looks, it comes in handy to not have to be constantly changing between the four types of commonly-used discs.

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Great update Jack - love the pic of the 405 in Long Beach. Fond memories as I drove that stretch of road for 10 years.

Thanks for documenting so regularly - glad you only lost some time and not a whole lot more.
 

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nice garage! clean, good layout. want to trade?!?!? (don't mind the stiffy i have from your pictures.)
 

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So Jack, when are we going to see pics of the Jeep on your lift getting new shoes? Might as well check the hardware status on all four corners while its up in the air, right? Keep your checkbook handy, it may be time to spend some lovin' on the old beast. lol
 
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I'm glad all you lost was an hour on the side of the road.
You and me both. :)

It's awesome Jack. I can really relate to your projects because I also truly enjoy taking "nothing" and turning it into "something".
Thanks. I'm still not really certain of how the bench will look when it's done. But I think I've got all the pieces I'll need in hand now.

Great update Jack - love the pic of the 405 in Long Beach. Fond memories as I drove that stretch of road for 10 years.
Thanks. That's actually the 60 just west of the 710. (Note to non-Californians: for some reason we put a 'the' in front of our highway names when we talk.) The AAA dispatcher reminded me not to get out of the car. But I was stopped at the exit point of a curve where everyone was holding up their hand to block the setting sun. I decided to get up and out of the way, just in case somebody plowed into the car.

nice garage! clean, good layout. want to trade?!?!?
Thanks. But I'm afraid the whole thing would be too heavy to move. :)

So Jack, when are we going to see pics of the Jeep on your lift getting new shoes? Might as well check the hardware status on all four corners while its up in the air, right? Keep your checkbook handy, it may be time to spend some lovin' on the old beast. lol
New tires went on yesterday. They're Kumhos instead of BF Goodriches -- they're what TireRack had in stock. The shocks seem okay. Corner by corner it absorbs impacts pretty consistently. I guess I could pull them and have my race guy put them on a dyno. But I'll leave well enough alone right now. The clear and present danger was the fact that the tire that went had been the spare (and was already worn down to the end of its life) when I bought the Jeep in 1993.

I'm lucky nothing (including me) got hurt. :beer:
 

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I'm lucky nothing (including me) got hurt. :beer:
Me too, buddy. One place to not be cheap is tires. People say to change them every 7 years if you don't wear them out. Well, we both have Jeeps and we both know tires can last a lot longer than that on a light vehicle that isn't driven hard. And driving a CJ7 hard is silly. Driving my '44 GPW at all is silly. So tires tend to die of old age on Jeeps, methinks.

My wife's Boxster got now shoes a year ago. The original Continentals went 45,000 miles and lasted 9 years. And they got a little slippery on the wet. It was time.

But really, Jack, with your home track being Willow Springs and with 2 sections being predominantly right hand high speed sweepers for the majority of turn length, how did you wear out the right rear that you had to run the spare on that corner? ;)



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It's true. I'm hyper-aware of the track car's tires. One set of the sticky ones lasts maybe four days of driving. Even the ones I run on the street now get replaced every six months. But on the Jeep, I think I replaced a pair of them in 1996. And then I got a slow leak in one of the older ones -- drove over a nail, and the patch was just so-so -- so that the spare seemed viable for the limited amount of driving it gets. But still, if I'd flipped the thing on that freeway the lesson would seem obvious.

I've told my employers on many occasions -- just because I happen to express myself well doesn't mean I'm actually intelligent. :)
 

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I guess that heavy load was just one too many for the Jeep's tires. I finally got new tires on my '93 Mark VIII before we drove to Michigan for our Lincoln national show in September. The tires looked beautiful, but 19 year old tires are just not reliable and I didn't want to have a blow out that dinged the wheel wells and paint on my baby. We did blow a tire on our 64 Impala SS on the way back from a car club event in October - by the time I found the hub cap in the middle of a corn field, Tom had the tire changed. Those tires were 20+ years old, I think and well have a new set put on in the spring.
Safety is important, especially if you've got the kids in the car.

And I think mordantly didn't mean to move it - he'd just like to trade spaces with you - I'm sure you'd enjoy exploring a new garage! Your garage wouldn't be the same out of its element (but then it wouldn't be the same without you, either).

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I'd offer to take the HF grinders off your hands, but at $9.99 each it's not worth the shipping! :)
 

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Jack, you've heard this many times before, but your garage is a true inspiration. I've been lurking a while getting ideas from the garage gallery and keep coming back to yours. I love the simplicity of layout and the fact that you continually rework areas as your needs change or you come across a "new" piece that will better suite your needs for a given space. Thank You for sharing your build with us all.
 

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My bookmark for this thread is page 40. Which makes me realize how you were lucky that the tire blowout wasn't when you were loaded down with sacks of concrete!
 

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Oh bogoff !! Spoiling a perfect thread man !!

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Ah spammer removed so I've taken my quote out.
 
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I'd offer to take the HF grinders off your hands, but at $9.99 each it's not worth the shipping! :)
I've got a growing pile of orphaned tools I'm going to need to get rid of. And then the tool cabinet itself (which I've liked, but it doesn't use the under-the-bench space as efficiently as the new set of Equipto drawers will) is going to have to go.

Jack, you've heard this many times before, but your garage is a true inspiration. I've been lurking a while getting ideas from the garage gallery and keep coming back to yours. I love the simplicity of layout and the fact that you continually rework areas as your needs change or you come across a "new" piece that will better suite your needs for a given space. Thank You for sharing your build with us all.
Thank you very much.

My bookmark for this thread is page 40. Which makes me realize how you were lucky that the tire blowout wasn't when you were loaded down with sacks of concrete!
Or the tiles for the floor. Or the Strong Hold cabinets. Or the old engine for the 911. :shocking:

Reliable Tools in Irwindale?

Yep. Their stuff typically goes for way too much money -- sometimes more than an item would cost new. But occasionally you can get bargains near the end of an influx of a particular type of item. They sold dozens and dozens of Strong Hold cabinets before I got mine.

Yesterday, I missed out on this drill press. I'm bummed that I didn't get it -- partly because it's pretty cool looking, and would fit in great with the vise I got to put on the new version of my bench -- but mostly because it'd be a lot more stout than the (Chinese-made) Craftsman one I currently use.

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Imagine that thing cleaned up and painted, sitting across the bench from this hunk of Illinois steel, also cleaned up and painted. :(

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Well, I'll keep looking.

I did land a great stool for the soon-to-be-revamped bench. It's going to need some upholstery repair and paint. But it's the kind of seat you could spend hours perched on. (I also picked up one of those Toledo/Uhl drafting stools, which is much prettier -- but this one definitely feels better when you're sitting in it.)

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Yep. Their stuff typically goes for way too much money -- sometimes more than an item would cost new. But occasionally you can get bargains near the end of an influx of a particular type of item. They sold dozens and dozens of Strong Hold cabinets before I got mine.

Yesterday, I missed out on this drill press. I'm bummed that I didn't get it -- partly because it's pretty cool looking, and would fit in great with the vise I got to put on the new version of my bench -- but mostly because it'd be a lot more stout than the (Chinese-made) Craftsman one I currently use.


I equipped about 50% of my shop with tools bought from Reliable....years back when a "good deal" could be had.

Their inventory of machinery used to be 10 times what it is now but the way I see it the economy is strong when the inventory of surplus machinery is low and the demand is high. Since they deal with manufacturing equipment I hope that its a sign of growing/expanding domestic manufacturing businesses.

...but I digress.

Nice score on the cabinet and the stools!

If you ever find yourself needing a hand with something let me know. I'm fairly close and have a 14' flatbed trailer....with new tires. :bounce:
 
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Wow, How do you find out about all these deals Jack?! Love the little drill press.
Thanks, but I only find some. The drill press is great, but I didn't win it. I wasn't willing to pay more than $180 for it (although now I kind of wished I had).

I equipped about 50% of my shop with tools bought from Reliable....years back when a "good deal" could be had.

Their inventory of machinery used to be 10 times what it is now but the way I see it the economy is strong when the inventory of surplus machinery is low and the demand is high. Since they deal with manufacturing equipment I hope that its a sign of growing/expanding domestic manufacturing businesses.

...but I digress.

Nice score on the cabinet and the stools!

If you ever find yourself needing a hand with something let me know. I'm fairly close and have a 14' flatbed trailer....with new tires. :bounce:

Thanks, Paul. I appreciate the offer on the trailer. As it happens, my didn't-quite-kill-me blow-out experience led to all new tires on the Jeep as well. :) But it's very nice of you. And I agree about Reliable Tool's decreasing stock meaning (I hope) good things for the local manufacturing economy. All my cabinets, my lift and a lot of my tools came from those guys -- but I'd be happier to see local machine shops thriving and me having to settle for some Harbor Freight junk more often.

Red Leader's saw/joiner giveaway seems to have uncovered a very deserving tool orphanage. You might find the first contestant's entry (post #2) a deserving possibility for that pile. Here's the contest page:

http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129584
I don't know how I missed that thread. But I just sent StevenBiars a PM offering pretty much everything I've got. As others said in the thread, this world needs more guys like him.
 

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Jack,
It was great to see the 12 Gauge Garage in the Wood Magazine.... First time I've seen the green storage sheds outside the garage,,very nice... I am hoping to update some pictures soon of the Great Garage Surprise Project..
 
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Jack,
It was great to see the 12 Gauge Garage in the Wood Magazine.... First time I've seen the green storage sheds outside the garage,,very nice... I am hoping to update some pictures soon of the Great Garage Surprise Project..

Thanks, Jack. But now I'm confused. My fold-down workbench was in Wood's November issue. And the garage was in both of their 'Great Garage Makeover' special editions. But I don't think any pictures of the curved-top sheds have been in any magazine.

Do you mean the pictures of the shed that are posted earlier in this thread?

In any case, I'm looking forward to updates on the surprise-from-the-great-wife garage.
 
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Thanks. In terms of basic tools, I'm surprised how much I'm using the portaband with a base attached to it. On the sconce project, i didn't even take the cut-off saw out. I used the portaband on the 1/2"x1/2" stock and a circular saw to cut the rectangles from the 16 gauge sheet.

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Jack, can you share information on the model of your band saw and mount? I'd love one of those in my garage!

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I love it and HATE IT! Instead of a race car I have the broken remains of a MANURE SPREADER bogey on my shop floor. After grinding through the layers of rust (and a little poop imbedded with it) into the broken pieces your garage would need a steam cleaning, mine wouldn't change. Nothing like working out of a 50 year old chicken coop.
 

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It's funny, it actually was a moment where what I've learned driving on a track carried over to a moment on the highway, Zeke. It was one of those instances where it isn't what you 'know' to do, it's what you automatically do when the rear end steps out. But e even so, it wasn't too sudden a change. I think most drivers could have handled this particular incident. That isn't always the case.



I won't defend having so many. And the thing of it is, that's an old picture. I got rid of the ones you see and replaced them with a set of seven that I got second hand. One is a 9", two are 6", and four are 4.5". Strange as it looks, it comes in handy to not have to be constantly changing between the four types of commonly-used discs.

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Jack - Who makes that bench grinder you have in your garage?
 
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Jack, can you share information on the model of your band saw and mount? I'd love one of those in my garage!
The portaband is a Milwaukee '***********' saw -- there are also shallower ones, which won't work with these bases. The base is by SWAG offroad, and they recently improved their offerings for this. Here are the links:

http://www.swagoffroad.com/Portaband_V_ONE.html
http://www.swagoffroad.com/Portaband_V_TWO.html
http://www.swagoffroad.com/Portaband_V_THREE.html

Any thoughts on the different models of 4.5" Metabo grinders? There are three or four models on Amazon and it's not obvious what the real differences are...
As far as I can tell, the differences are the amperage of the units, and also the type of trigger. I like the paddle triggers for wire wheels and grinding wheels, but the other (more on-off) type of triggers for cutting wheels and flap discs. But I was buying used, so I also just took what I could get. Two of my 4.5" grinders are actually 6" grinders that I fitted with smaller guards.

Jack - Who makes that bench grinder you have in your garage?
It's a crummy little Harbor Freight 8" grinder. One day I'll replace it with a second-hand Baldor or something. It vibrates more than I'd like, but it gets the job done.

I love it and HATE IT! Instead of a race car I have the broken remains of a MANURE SPREADER bogey on my shop floor. After grinding through the layers of rust (and a little poop imbedded with it) into the broken pieces your garage would need a steam cleaning, mine wouldn't change. Nothing like working out of a 50 year old chicken coop.
Thanks. Although a chicken coupe is probably bigger than my little two-car. And it's certainly better than some of the alleys and street parking spaces that I had to do automotive work in years ago.
 

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You have the green and red and white Christmas color combo going in the garage for Christmas cheer! We're going to have 40 degree weather here in IL with no snow, but Santa will make it anyway! Firsts for the baby always make things more festive and meaningful. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family.

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Thank you, Chris. We hit 40 degrees last night, too. But to get there, we came from the other end of the thermometer. We've got some Illinois visitors out here, now (my parents) who took the train from Chicago to see their grandkids.

I hope you, Thomas and yours (and to everyone on the board) has a safe and happy finish to 2011.

Time to dig out the Christmas card:

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