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GirlinAgarage, I suppose it would be possible to move a lot of the garage to a new location. But it would be a huge pain in the neck. I'd have to fill in the pit for the lift, for starters. I think I'll just stay at this house for the duration. You're young; you've got lots of houses to look forward to. I move slow and I'm no spring chicken. Why do you think I'm making a place to sit with a magnifying light? :)

Here are the little drawers and the power plugs in place. Each little receptacle rotates. Why that's a good thing is something I'm not clear on, just yet. But there you have it.

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Jack,

I love the wooden bench top! The cut-out really softens its look while adding to its functionality. Moving the cabinet with the pegboard two inches because it was off center is the kind of thing Tom does all the time. No one else would notice, but that's not the point! "Out of sight, out of mind" doesn't work in our house either. Others may not notice, but it's your work space. You'll always know it's not "right" and it would constantly bug you! Problem solved with the minor adjustment.

Nice addition to the space.

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Thanks.

GirlinAgarage, I suppose it would be possible to move a lot of the garage to a new location. But it would be a huge pain in the neck. I'd have to fill in the pit for the lift, for starters. I think I'll just stay at this house for the duration. You're young; you've got lots of houses to look forward to. I move slow and I'm no spring chicken. Why do you think I'm making a place to sit with a magnifying light? :)

Here are the little drawers and the power plugs in place. Each little receptacle rotates. Why that's a good thing is something I'm not clear on, just yet. But there you have it.

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I like that - "we just won't move" :lol: Another way to look at is, the more people that read GJ the more people you have fighting over 'Jack's house' :bounce:

Really the place looks great. I like that it is always evolving to suit your needs. That's how it should be.
 

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Jack,

As usual looks fantastic...perhaps I missed it, but what did you do with your Harbor Freight 13 drawer tool box? Are you relocating it elsewhere?

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Jack, after going through your thread from start to finish( I suspect it will never truly be finished) I felt I had to chime in and congratulate you on your creativity and resourcefulness in making this garage work for you!!!:bowdown:You are an inspiration to everyone who does it with creativity,not just dollars!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 

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That workbench looks great! :beer:

Cutting the recess in the bench top is a great idea. I probably would have been tripping over my stool for a while before I came up with a simple solution like that. Thanks for the idea! :thumbup:
 

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Hey Jack, have you ever considered putting up a steel beam to carry your roof loads and get rid of that damn post that is in the middle of everything?You could put a trolley on it and have a rolling chain fall.You would have to relocate that very cool clock though:bounce:
 

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Hey Jack:

Good to hear from you and great idea on father son jeep build. You have the talent and a great little helper to join in when he gets a little closer to driving age. Kids just love tools and I am sure you are teaching him as much as you can. Take him with you to the tool store, the little guys love all that neat stuff just like us older kids.

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....Here are the little drawers and the power plugs in place. Each little receptacle rotates. Why that's a good thing is something I'm not clear on, just yet....

Jack,
Aren't those rotating recepticles child-safety devices? With the time you've already spent showing your son the FUN stuff Dad does in the garage, I think they might be a real good idea.

By the way, since we all seem to have no problem spending your money and giving you unsolicited suggestions (sorry!), I think Mr. Onetwo's suggestion of removing your garage post and replacing it with a beam/crane rail bearing on a couple of 4" posts would be an outstanding improvement to go with your lift.

I'm guessing those 3.6's are gonna keep on needing to come out periodically as long as you're racing and a crane would be an awesome way to get one up on the bench top or on an engine stand. Ok, I'll shut up now.

P.S. My concrete mixer is still available to you to pour the foundations for the posts the crane rail will be supported by. Now I'll REALLY shut up!:bounce:
 
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Thank you for the nice words. I really appreciate it.

Looks more like an Audi to me...:thumbup:
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That actually might be an Auto Union car -- which Ferdinand Porsche was the driving force behind (he talked hitler into combining the companies, as I understand it). So there's a reasonable chance that a lot of that particular car -- including the rear-of-driver engine placement -- might have come from the mind of old Mister Porsche.

love the wooden bench top! The cut-out really softens its look while adding to its functionality.
Thanks, Chris! The cut-outs were, in some ways, dictated by what I needed. The round corner on the left side allows the adjacent cabinet to open wider. The round corner on the right side allows easier access to the tool chest there. In the center, the inset gets the chair out of the way when you're walking, but also allows a sitter to reach the tools on the pegboard (and the little drawers) more easily. I was a little leary about taking a saw to a brand new slab of Oak. But now that it's cut, I'm happy with it.

As usual looks fantastic...perhaps I missed it, but what did you do with your Harbor Freight 13 drawer tool box? Are you relocating it elsewhere?
No more room for it. But a fellow GJ-er is buying it from me.

That workbench looks great! :beer:

Cutting the recess in the bench top is a great idea. I probably would have been tripping over my stool for a while before I came up with a simple solution like that. Thanks for the idea! :thumbup:
And like I said, it also improves your reach without having to get up. As I get older, I appreciate anything that allows me to keep sitting longer. :beer:

That's awesome. From a vision to a reality.
What do you plan to store in the benchtop drawers?
Tools, mostly. Some stuff that was getting too big for the flat drawers in the neighboring tool box. And everything that was in the HF box.

The part that is going to make me crazy is rearranging what goes where. Even with labels, I inevitably open the drawer of where a thing 'used to be.' :wtf:

Hey Jack, have you ever considered putting up a steel beam to carry your roof loads and get rid of that damn post that is in the middle of everything?You could put a trolley on it and have a rolling chain fall.You would have to relocate that very cool clock though:bounce:

By the way, since we all seem to have no problem spending your money and giving you unsolicited suggestions (sorry!), I think Mr. Onetwo's suggestion of removing your garage post and replacing it with a beam/crane rail bearing on a couple of 4" posts would be an outstanding improvement to go with your lift.

I'm guessing those 3.6's are gonna keep on needing to come out periodically as long as you're racing and a crane would be an awesome way to get one up on the bench top or on an engine stand. Ok, I'll shut up now.

P.S. My concrete mixer is still available to you to pour the foundations for the posts the crane rail will be supported by. Now I'll REALLY shut up!:bounce:

Guys, come on. This is a low budget garage. And that center post has dictated everything from lift placement to the whole idea of that center island. At this point, it's like an old dog. It might be a pain in the neck, but I'm keeping it.

:)

All right. New progress report...

Not much. I had work and kid stuff today, but I painted down under the bench where my feet go. I don't know why, but having that wall show through was bugging me.

Next up, I decided to add a shelf right above the little drawers. I've got this idea to put a mug warmer underneath the shelf so that I can keep my coffee hot and also keep sawdust from drifting down onto the coffee when it's sitting out.

I had some old Oak bookcases I'd taken out when we changed the study to a bedroom for my son. But the bookcases were plywood. So I tried shaving a slice from an Oak 1x2 and using that as a kind of edge veneer.

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It didn't work. The Oak split while the epoxy was drying.

So I went to the local lumber yard and got a piece of solid Oak. Here you can see where the all-important mug warmer is going to go. (The wire will be hidden when it's installed.)

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The one tool I've used on this project that has amazed me the most is my new Bosch jig saw. I've had jig saws for 25 years now. But none of them could hold a candle to this thing. It makes cutting -- whether it's steel or butcher block -- effortless.

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I got some stain on the new shelf, and test-placed the vise. There's still dust everywhere, and I haven't started the varnish yet.

The advantage to the false drawer is that the handle of the vise can hang down without interfering with the drawer opening and closing.

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Jack -

that really turned out quite nice. I'm especially impressed with the hose reel placement and finish out on that.

(Be honest - was the vise handle "advantage" luck? :))

There was a post above on rotating electrical recepticles - I'm not sure if got the answer on advantage there, but - I believe it's to allow for large plugs, like those on the ends of cell phone charges to have more options.

I wish I was educated enough to know what the name (and, purpose for that matter) was for those big bulky plugs....but - there you have it.
 

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Jack,
Great updates as usual.
A few thoughts:
1. For your tool box labels, if you put them on magnets you can easily relocate them and not have to re-make
2. I found when trying to wrap wood around a curve, getting it wet and going slowly can keep it from breaking. Made a skate board ramp this way. I was able to bend 1/4" plywood into a nice curve with no splitting.
3. Don't you rotate your vise 180 degrees when not in use so noone will walk into it?
4. Seems like the airline would be closer to your car if mounted on the LH side of the bench.
Your latest work bench is getting me motivated to work on mine some more.
 
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I wish I was educated enough to know what the name (and, purpose for that matter) was for those big bulky plugs....but - there you have it.

Transformers. They convert line voltage down to a lower voltage the phone uses, typically 12.something volts.

The bench looks good Jack. An I beam running the width of the garage would look good too. *Nudge Nudge*
 

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Stain looks good on the bench and shelf.

Food for though about the vise, double check that you're not crackin' your elbow on it when you're sitting at the desk. I have my vise on my right side of the upstairs workbench and when I work on longer items I'll bump into it (I'm right handed). Not to bad but makes me want to place it elsewhere now and again.

Vises placement seems like a blessing and a curse when placed on a long bench along a wall. On one hand putting it in the middle of the bench allows for use with long materials hanging out either side. But on te other hand, its in the middle of the bench which is prime workbench work space. Ok, my brain is rambling outloud today. Carry on :)
 
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Jack....not sure if I've posted on your thread before, but have enjoyed every entry. Your craftsmanship, planning, and attention to detail are incredible. Thanks for sharing with us.
 

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Those rotating plugs, I think, are so you can have that receptacle behind some solid piece of furniture and the plug and wire is next to the wall rather than sticking out straight and creating clearance issues. Some versions I've seen are also surge protectors for computer installations.
 
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Jack,
Ok, ok, I'll stop making suggestions (My fingers are crossed incidentally). I really like the small shelf. Its a nice finishing touch.

(Here's how long my ****-out commitment lasted). Is there any way you could put a receiver hitch behind the faux drawer so that you could have the vise only when you needed it? You may well WANT it there all the time, but I always liked the receiver hitch mounted approach in the past. Ok, NOW I'll stuff a sock in it!
 
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Thanks.

(Be honest - was the vise handle "advantage" luck? :))
Actually, it wasn't. Although I'll admit happenstance has produced some of my very best ideas. But I originally thought about putting the vise on the center island bench -- until I saw that the drawers would interfere with the handle. So that made me move the air line drawer face from the left to the right side when I put together the plan for this bench. The line is farther from the car, now -- but it actually works better in that there's a straight run on the right side to pull the length of hose out until it clicks to the appropriate stop.

A few thoughts:
1. For your tool box labels, if you put them on magnets you can easily relocate them and not have to re-make
2. I found when trying to wrap wood around a curve, getting it wet and going slowly can keep it from breaking. Made a skate board ramp this way. I was able to bend 1/4" plywood into a nice curve with no splitting.
3. Don't you rotate your vise 180 degrees when not in use so noone will walk into it?
4. Seems like the airline would be closer to your car if mounted on the LH side of the bench.
Your latest work bench is getting me motivated to work on mine some more.

1) I agree on the magnets. But I always tell myself I'm never changing the arrangement and therefore magnets are overkill. Well, here I am changing the arrangement -- again. I'm going to put inserts in the handles on the new drawers. But I'm thinking about repainting the drawer faces on the stacked box to match the ones I (mistakenly) painted with flat black instead of satin. Now that I've made the mistake, I kind of like how it looks. And I'm wondering if painting the Craftsman doors to match would be worth the trouble.

2) You're right. I've used water and steam to bend stuff in the past. I was hoping in this case I could cut a thin enough veneer to save me the time. As it turned out, it was easiest to just go out and get a piece of solid wood.

3) I hadn't thought of that. It's a good idea. But then, I'm also very lazy. We'll see how often it gets turned.

4) It would be closer on the left hand side. But it's easier to unwind it on the right hand side, as I mentioned above.


The bench looks good Jack. An I beam running the width of the garage would look good too. *Nudge Nudge*
If I ever did work on a car where the engine had to be pulled up and out, I might consider it. But all I do is drop them out. But who knows, if I ever stumble upon a beam in the trash, my mind might start cranking away...

Food for though about the vise, double check that you're not crackin' your elbow on it when you're sitting at the desk. I have my vise on my right side of the upstairs workbench and when I work on longer items I'll bump into it (I'm right handed). Not to bad but makes me want to place it elsewhere now and again.

Vises placement seems like a blessing and a curse when placed on a long bench along a wall. On one hand putting it in the middle of the bench allows for use with long materials hanging out either side. But on te other hand, its in the middle of the bench which is prime workbench work space. Ok, my brain is rambling outloud today. Carry on :)
I got this new vise pretty cheaply (well, for a Wilton), but I already had one that I've been very happy with. But I recently got some rubber soft jaws for the new one, which will save me from putting layers of duct tape on the jaws of the old one when I need soft jaws. So now I'm determined to find a place for this new vise. I'll check on the elbow clearance and how it interferes with access to the stacked toolbox. 'Try it out twice, drill once.'

Those rotating plugs, I think, are so you can have that receptacle behind some solid piece of furniture and the plug and wire is next to the wall rather than sticking out straight and creating clearance issues. Some versions I've seen are also surge protectors for computer installations.
Yeah, this has a surge protector function, too. My thinking on the rotating plugs was that they might provide a kind of basic strain relief as a cord is pulled around the shop. It might be the wrong tool ofr the job, in some ways, but it was the right size for the space.

Hey Jack congrats saw another photo of the shop in Handyman Magazine.
It's killing me that the magazine isn't on the newsstands near me. I want to see (Garage Journal member) Sundowner's shop, which won the grand prize and has those cool home-made trusses holding up the roof.

Ok, ok, I'll stop making suggestions (My fingers are crossed incidentally). I really like the small shelf. Its a nice finishing touch.

(Here's how long my ****-out commitment lasted). Is there any way you could put a receiver hitch behind the faux drawer so that you could have the vise only when you needed it? You may well WANT it there all the time, but I always liked the receiver hitch mounted approach in the past. Ok, NOW I'll stuff a sock in it!
My first thought with the blank space was to put another reel there -- but for an electrical cord. But I've got one on the ceiling pretty close to this bench already. So my backup plan is to put another power strip on it. I have a metal one which I can paint so it looks nice. And I've often wished I had a closer plug when I'm working at the steel-topped bench over to the right of this one, and the closest left-side plugs were all the way at the back of the bench.

A hitch is a good idea, but I'm thinking of converting my hitches to vertical instead of horizontal.

But then, I keep telling myself the garage is done.

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PROGRESS REPORT

Very little progress made today. But I got something in the mail which I'd ordered about a week ago. Here's the back of the chair I repainted. I like everything about it except the nameplate thing, which has a cutaway which maybe was used to hold something (like a small card?) back in the day.

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It just looks a little weird.

Add to that the fact that there has never been a place in my garage to hang a sign that says "Jack's Garage" or whatever. Somebody even gave me one, once. It looks like a big embossed street sign. But I just can't find the space to fit it.

So today the garage got its official sign, and at the same time I was able to get rid of the weird little chair badge. It's an understated approach to signage, but it also shows some pride:

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It's from a company that makes metal name tags.

Then today I also got out some red paint to try something. I need to put in some trim/backsplash pieces so little fasteners and stuff don't roll down behind the bench. Originally, I planned on brown or the tan wall color for the pieces. But today I got it in my head to try something that's almost decorative. Sort of a watered-down version of the trim details that Red Leader does in his 1950s Craftsman-themed garage. I'm not as artistic as him, but tell me what you think of the red trim pieces I've set in place here:

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Is it too much? I could also paint them the warm gray color I used for the little drawers and the back of the chair. Or I could paint them brown. I'm undecided right now.

Opinions?

For a counter-example, here's a hastily repainted version I did with PhotoShop, which gives a vague idea of what the trim would look like in gray:

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The tag looks like it was meant for that chair :)

I was thinking red trim as well. I opened up the pic in paint and tried several of the other colors in there but red worked best. Ties the bench units in to the surrounding toolboxes.
 
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Red it is.

But here's the compromise. I'll make it red in back, but no candy-colored 'cake frosting' on that upper shelf.

(I'm definitely thinking about this too much. It's just a bench.)

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Great bench Jack....I like the contrast! I am very jealous of those cabinets and you're ability to find them in Cali.Maine is a wasteland when it comes to salvaging such things at a reasonable cost.:(
 

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What's with the new avatar Jack? You look so rugged and manly. I prefer understated, so I have to vote against the red backsplash. Looking sharp.
 

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Like the tag. Nice touch.
Like the red trim.
I really like the small shelf for coffee cup. I may have to do something similar.
What happened to the vice?
 

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Jack, avatar look nice too :eek:

The color compromise doesn't look bad, though I'd be inclined to keep them the same because the wood stains are the same color.
 

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Jack,

Congrats on your win in Handyman.
Just received my issue and there it was.

Nice work on the cabinet mods. I have a old card file type with a rusted bottom that i've meaning to cut apart and weld reinforcements into. The heavier cabinets make it easier to do these kind of mods.

Like the black & red.

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Jack - congrats again on your win. Just got my last Family Handyman magazine and saw your garage in there. Pretty cool...
 
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What's with the new avatar Jack? You look so rugged and manly.
I decided to switch to the picture Family Handyman used. I'm not crazy about it, but then the welding cap one looked a little goofy, too.

My vote is red (all 3) - I think it looks good and from the pics...it really doesn't seem flashy - just "coordinated" with the boxes.

The color compromise doesn't look bad, though I'd be inclined to keep them the same because the wood stains are the same color.
Okay. Guess I shouldn't be re-thinking it at all. 'First thought best thought' as they say. :)

Like the tag. Nice touch. Like the red trim.
I really like the small shelf for coffee cup. I may have to do something similar. What happened to the vice?
I still have to varnish the top, so the vise was just set there temporarily. The drill press will be going on the right side -- and a magnifying lamp is going to go in, as well.

Just received my issue and there it was.

Nice work on the cabinet mods. I have a old card file type with a rusted bottom that i've meaning to cut apart and weld reinforcements into. The heavier cabinets make it easier to do these kind of mods.

I agree. It's easy to weld the heavier stuff. With this latest cabinet, the sheet metal made me look a little bit less competent. I guess it's a good excuse to keep practicing.

I finally got a copy of the magazine. I wish they'd done a little more for the print version than the online one. There's still only one picture of each projects.

The grand prize winner was GJ member Sundowner, who had documented some of his build a little while back. The magazine just showed the exterior:

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It's a shame we didn't get to see more of the interior, which features his self-engineered trusses.

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And here's my mention. Thanks to the people on this board, I kind of swamped the ballot boxes for this contest.

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Congratulations Jack! As one of the ballot box swampers, I'm glad you won. The wood shop is certainly deserving but my garages have always sheltered cars. I really admire yours for serving double duty as a functional shop.
 
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