GirlnAgarage
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Congrats Jack!
Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT The 12-Gauge Garage
- Thread starter Jack Olsen
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Workspaces sized between 265 and 485 squarefeet.
Aaron8x608
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Congrats Jack! And the latest ads to the shop look great. Vice envy. BTW that's an old film editing chair, a la Moviola.
Dan in Pasadena
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VMX42
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Congratulations guys.
Great to see the wider community acknowledging your wonderful creativity and craftsmanship.
Great stuff!!!
Great to see the wider community acknowledging your wonderful creativity and craftsmanship.
Great stuff!!!
nkachur
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I have not made a comment on your tread in a long time though I follow faithfully. I am always impressed by your inventivness. Congrats on your win and I will continue following this build just to see what "Jack Olsen will come up with next"
BeachBum2012
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Congrats on the win. And I agree with those who liked the red trim. Lookin' good
ejm1961Tbird
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Way to go, Jack!
tc-cad
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Jack great concept for that floor lift. In one of your posts you mentioned that you had access to another lift table? Would you mind sharing the connections for that? I am a design engineer and work at a tool and die shop in WI and would like to install a lift table like you did. I always wanted a lift but just could not fit it into my garage because of height and I didn't want the post in the middle to smack car doors on. I have my search engines looking for a used one.
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Tom
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Omphaloskeptic
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Jack, let me join the guys above in congratulating you on the win; well deserved for sure! When can we expect to see pics of young master Olsen's kart racer? Have you started designing his kart trailer to pull behind the Jeep yet? heh-heh
Your new work station desk is coming along nicely with the innovative touches we've come to expect from your fertile brain.
As to the placement of your Wilton vise, I'm torn about locating it on your new work surface. I have the exact same model sitting below my Craftsman butcher block bench waiting to be installed somewhere. I can't bring myself to drill/bolt it onto this surface because I find myself using the real estate of the C'man bench for layout jobs and other tasks where the vise would only get in the way. I went back in your thread (again) and looked at your shop layout to get a better idea of your work stations. I want to ask you why you want to place your Wilton on the new bench? I keep thinking that for the type of work you do, it might better serve you mounted on the post next to your grinding tool rack. Being as creative as you are, I envision a removable, rotatable, hitch receiver/mounting plate attached to numerous cleats (?) or slots on a stout square metal tube encasing your wooden garage support post. This contraption would allow you to stow the vise in a cabinet when not in use and be installed in a variety of configurations depending on your current project requirements. I'm not anything close to having your welding skills, but it is what I'd like to do for my Wilton; have a sturdy, versatile mount and still be able to get it out of my way when I need the space. What do you think?
Your new work station desk is coming along nicely with the innovative touches we've come to expect from your fertile brain.
As to the placement of your Wilton vise, I'm torn about locating it on your new work surface. I have the exact same model sitting below my Craftsman butcher block bench waiting to be installed somewhere. I can't bring myself to drill/bolt it onto this surface because I find myself using the real estate of the C'man bench for layout jobs and other tasks where the vise would only get in the way. I went back in your thread (again) and looked at your shop layout to get a better idea of your work stations. I want to ask you why you want to place your Wilton on the new bench? I keep thinking that for the type of work you do, it might better serve you mounted on the post next to your grinding tool rack. Being as creative as you are, I envision a removable, rotatable, hitch receiver/mounting plate attached to numerous cleats (?) or slots on a stout square metal tube encasing your wooden garage support post. This contraption would allow you to stow the vise in a cabinet when not in use and be installed in a variety of configurations depending on your current project requirements. I'm not anything close to having your welding skills, but it is what I'd like to do for my Wilton; have a sturdy, versatile mount and still be able to get it out of my way when I need the space. What do you think?
BigAl62
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Kart trailer behind the Jeep? I thought he was going to design an attachment for the Porsche roof rack (the one he hauls tires and such to the track)! 
OP
Thanks for the congratulations -- and the nice words.
Back in the eighties when I went to school, we actually did our editing on Moviolas. Now of course it's a lot simpler and quicker. But I'm still surprised by the lousy quality of chairs I've seen in some editing rooms.
On the kid:
I've taken him out karting a few times already. I think it's safe to say that -- at three -- he's still too young to get started in earnest. One of the places we've been going to will only let him drive little karts that are about as slow as a tricycle. The other place won't even let him ride as a passenger. But I'm trying to lay the groundwork. The kart won't show up next week, but it will get here some time this year. With a thousand bucks in prize money, I'm a motivated buyer.
On the vise placement:
It's odd. The thing I want the most at this bench is a soft-jawed vise. I got a set of rubber jaws with magnetic backing for it already, although I'll admit that a Wilton machinist's vise is stupid overkill for a soft-jawed vise. I've also got a small panavise for up-close work that I'll have somewhere in one of those drawers.
It's not all worked out. I've thought about going to vertical trailer-hitch mounts instead of horizontal. And I've thought about putting the vise on one of the other benches as well. I'm still not 100% sure on where to use it. The problem with two vises in a 10'x20' half of a small garage is that there's always the first one pretty close by.
But this one would be within arm's reach while I'm sitting. As you can maybe tell, I'm kind of excited about being able to spend more time on my backside.
The roof rack is a pretty smart idea, actually. I could store the kart up along the ceiling that way. Now you've got me thinking...
Today was an interesting garage day, in that our babysitter was out for the long weekend so the place is still all torn apart and messy. And in the last 48 hours, I've been putting together a new in-car camera system for my race car and also getting the car ready for a track day that's... tomorrow.
The bottom line was that I had to work the way things used to be -- in a completely messy shop. I can do that -- but the surprising thing was how addicted I've gotten to the lift. I wanted to re-connect the heating ducts and also bolt the front splitter on the car, but since there's a table saw and other junk on top of where the lift sits, I had to pull out a floor jack and do things the old fashioned way -- on my back in the driveway. I might have gone soft, but I hated working under jack stands again, even if it was only for fifteen minutes. I ended up deciding to leave the heat unfinished, which is going to be annoying tomorrow. The temperature when I get to the track is forecast to be 25°.
Since I ran out of time, I dropped in a heated seat pad that uses the car's 12V power. We'll see how that works.
The bottom line: I like it better when the shop is clean and the lift is available. Everything goes a lot faster.
Very appropo given Jack's line of work!
Back in the eighties when I went to school, we actually did our editing on Moviolas. Now of course it's a lot simpler and quicker. But I'm still surprised by the lousy quality of chairs I've seen in some editing rooms.
When can we expect to see pics of young master Olsen's kart racer? Have you started designing his kart trailer to pull behind the Jeep yet? heh-heh
Your new work station desk is coming along nicely with the innovative touches we've come to expect from your fertile brain.
As to the placement of your Wilton vise, I'm torn about locating it on your new work surface. I have the exact same model sitting below my Craftsman butcher block bench waiting to be installed somewhere. I can't bring myself to drill/bolt it onto this surface because I find myself using the real estate of the C'man bench for layout jobs and other tasks where the vise would only get in the way. I went back in your thread (again) and looked at your shop layout to get a better idea of your work stations. I want to ask you why you want to place your Wilton on the new bench? I keep thinking that for the type of work you do, it might better serve you mounted on the post next to your grinding tool rack. Being as creative as you are, I envision a removable, rotatable, hitch receiver/mounting plate attached to numerous cleats (?) or slots on a stout square metal tube encasing your wooden garage support post. This contraption would allow you to stow the vise in a cabinet when not in use and be installed in a variety of configurations depending on your current project requirements. I'm not anything close to having your welding skills, but it is what I'd like to do for my Wilton; have a sturdy, versatile mount and still be able to get it out of my way when I need the space. What do you think?
On the kid:
I've taken him out karting a few times already. I think it's safe to say that -- at three -- he's still too young to get started in earnest. One of the places we've been going to will only let him drive little karts that are about as slow as a tricycle. The other place won't even let him ride as a passenger. But I'm trying to lay the groundwork. The kart won't show up next week, but it will get here some time this year. With a thousand bucks in prize money, I'm a motivated buyer.
On the vise placement:
It's odd. The thing I want the most at this bench is a soft-jawed vise. I got a set of rubber jaws with magnetic backing for it already, although I'll admit that a Wilton machinist's vise is stupid overkill for a soft-jawed vise. I've also got a small panavise for up-close work that I'll have somewhere in one of those drawers.
It's not all worked out. I've thought about going to vertical trailer-hitch mounts instead of horizontal. And I've thought about putting the vise on one of the other benches as well. I'm still not 100% sure on where to use it. The problem with two vises in a 10'x20' half of a small garage is that there's always the first one pretty close by.
But this one would be within arm's reach while I'm sitting. As you can maybe tell, I'm kind of excited about being able to spend more time on my backside.
Kart trailer behind the Jeep? I thought he was going to design an attachment for the Porsche roof rack (the one he hauls tires and such to the track)!
The roof rack is a pretty smart idea, actually. I could store the kart up along the ceiling that way. Now you've got me thinking...
Today was an interesting garage day, in that our babysitter was out for the long weekend so the place is still all torn apart and messy. And in the last 48 hours, I've been putting together a new in-car camera system for my race car and also getting the car ready for a track day that's... tomorrow.
The bottom line was that I had to work the way things used to be -- in a completely messy shop. I can do that -- but the surprising thing was how addicted I've gotten to the lift. I wanted to re-connect the heating ducts and also bolt the front splitter on the car, but since there's a table saw and other junk on top of where the lift sits, I had to pull out a floor jack and do things the old fashioned way -- on my back in the driveway. I might have gone soft, but I hated working under jack stands again, even if it was only for fifteen minutes. I ended up deciding to leave the heat unfinished, which is going to be annoying tomorrow. The temperature when I get to the track is forecast to be 25°.
Since I ran out of time, I dropped in a heated seat pad that uses the car's 12V power. We'll see how that works.
The bottom line: I like it better when the shop is clean and the lift is available. Everything goes a lot faster.
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pontifex4
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The temperature when I get to the track is forecast to be 25°.
Gah! Do you need both windows down on track, as well? Better take a scarf!
I'm flying down to Texas in a couple of weeks for a PCA event at TWS, and I'm terrified that they'll get a cold snap, too.
You mentioned that you have things in the way of your lift, but I'm a little surprised that you don't have the lift in "table mode" more often in your photos. If it were in my shop, I think this would be entirely too tempting.
Oh, and belated congratulations on the contest!
hobie1dog
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Jack: There are several designs out there floating around that allow you to transport a kart using the trailer hitch receiver.
http://www.joehauler.com/customhaulers/customhaulers.shtml
You could also fab up a pit buggy like this one and weld up a hitch post under it so that you could just attach the whole thing to the back of your vehicle.
http://www.joehauler.com/customhaulers/customhaulers.shtml
You could also fab up a pit buggy like this one and weld up a hitch post under it so that you could just attach the whole thing to the back of your vehicle.
GirlnAgarage
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Uh we're in a cold snap
50s by day, 20-30s by night. Overall the winter has been mild. But should be much warmer than up north, eh?machine_punk
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I hope you are enjoying your track day. I live within a few miles of Infineon Raceway, in Sonoma, California.
The new bench is looking great. I like the way you have integrated the air line reel into the bench and put plenty of power right where you need it. I'm working on the power extension in my garage studio today.
I think the red accents are perfect. I'd be looking for other places in your garage to put that accent color. A lot of guys seem to go with super-boring paint schemes. I always like to see a little more color in a workshop.
Great job. I like your attention to detail and willingness to just jump in and change things when you think of a better way.
M_P
The new bench is looking great. I like the way you have integrated the air line reel into the bench and put plenty of power right where you need it. I'm working on the power extension in my garage studio today.
I think the red accents are perfect. I'd be looking for other places in your garage to put that accent color. A lot of guys seem to go with super-boring paint schemes. I always like to see a little more color in a workshop.
Great job. I like your attention to detail and willingness to just jump in and change things when you think of a better way.
M_P
BigAl62
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25 degrees??? That should make you feel like you're back in Illinois! I didn't think it got that cold in California. It's 24 degrees here (5 or so miles west of O'Hare airport) right now and I had to work on my wife's car (it won't fit in the garage as my garage is a storage area because I have no basement) on the driveway! Frozen hands ****! Good luck tomorrow at the track and try to keep warm!
nkachur
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Right now I am wishing for 24 degrees. That is almost t-shirt weather compaired to the -20 that we have right now.
widerberg
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Loving how the garage is evolving and the workbench is coming together, Jack. I, too, like the red trim. Great design.
Quick question, though. The warm gray color you used, what brand/color is it? I was going to paint an old bandsaw of mine a machine gray, but I like the "browner" gray you used.
Quick question, though. The warm gray color you used, what brand/color is it? I was going to paint an old bandsaw of mine a machine gray, but I like the "browner" gray you used.
OP
Well, it was about 20° when I rolled in -- an hour and a quarter in a car without heat was making me wished I'd taken the 20 minutes to reinstall the duct. But it was a great track day. I beat my (recently-set) personal best, and then beat it again. I've gone from my 2007 best of 1:29.1 to a new quickest lap of 1:28.21. Could :27s be around the corner?
Here's a video of the new lap. If you're not familiar with Willow Springs, then this is going to be no different than the last 'best' lap I posted. In fact, this one doesn't even have music or a collection of passes. But it does come in HD, courtesy of the new camera system I put together. It's amazing what a hundred bucks will buy you, nowadays. This is one of the cameras, along with a quickie mount I made to attach it to my roll cage:
And here's the car, shaking it's tail on the track:
And the garage is still a mess, but here's the new set of power outlets on the front and also the drill press put in place to make sure it still fit:
Here's a video of the new lap. If you're not familiar with Willow Springs, then this is going to be no different than the last 'best' lap I posted. In fact, this one doesn't even have music or a collection of passes. But it does come in HD, courtesy of the new camera system I put together. It's amazing what a hundred bucks will buy you, nowadays. This is one of the cameras, along with a quickie mount I made to attach it to my roll cage:
And here's the car, shaking it's tail on the track:
And the garage is still a mess, but here's the new set of power outlets on the front and also the drill press put in place to make sure it still fit:
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mdbeck1
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You need to put one of your receiver hitch vice rigs in the opening by the chair OR behind the fake drawer...
bad_idea
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I like the 'skirting' you put on the cabinets. I assume the skirting on the other cabinet matches? I can't make it out in the pic. Looking sharp.
A hitch mount in the face of the false drawer would be slick. Fit it flush with the drawer front and then make an insert for the hitch mount with a square of sheet metal on it. When the hitch is not in use it is hidden away behind the cover plate. Access to secure things in the hitch would be from inside the next drawer down. Just one more project to add to your list.
I can't make it out in the pic. Looking sharp.A hitch mount in the face of the false drawer would be slick. Fit it flush with the drawer front and then make an insert for the hitch mount with a square of sheet metal on it. When the hitch is not in use it is hidden away behind the cover plate. Access to secure things in the hitch would be from inside the next drawer down. Just one more project to add to your list.
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mdbeck1
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...And the garage is still a mess, but here's the new set of power outlets on the front and also the drill press put in place to make sure it still fit:
You need to talk to Machine_Punk about one of his fancy aluminum face plates.
...and it looks like there MIGHT still be room for a vice receiver hitch right in between them.
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OP
I don't think I'm going to put a hitch mount on this bench. I have one in the wall by my fold-down welding bench, and I use that one -- but it might be the last receiver I keep in the shop. I like the idea of it, but with a garage that's as small as mine, the actual utility is limited. At least with the kind of work I've been doing in it.
Here's another couple of angles on the bench. There's still no varnish and the place is still full of sawdust. But I started filling the drawers and I have to say I love these type of cabinets. I think it's still important to have flat, thin drawers for hand tools -- like the Craftsman boxes have. But these deep drawers with the moveable channels are great for all sorts of other types of tools that don't lie flat like wrenches. And you can slide these drawers out all the way -- dropping in the dividers is easy, and you don't lose stuff in the back of the drawer.
The part I get a kick out of is looking at the original pieces and seeing what a little imagination and paint will do. The donors:
Here's another couple of angles on the bench. There's still no varnish and the place is still full of sawdust. But I started filling the drawers and I have to say I love these type of cabinets. I think it's still important to have flat, thin drawers for hand tools -- like the Craftsman boxes have. But these deep drawers with the moveable channels are great for all sorts of other types of tools that don't lie flat like wrenches. And you can slide these drawers out all the way -- dropping in the dividers is easy, and you don't lose stuff in the back of the drawer.
The part I get a kick out of is looking at the original pieces and seeing what a little imagination and paint will do. The donors:
e-tek
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The new stuff looks great. It's the CLEAN look of the entire project that makes it so appealing.
Tell us, do you "light" the area to shoot some of these photo's - or is that the natural light? Looks very studio!
Cheers!
Tell us, do you "light" the area to shoot some of these photo's - or is that the natural light? Looks very studio!
Cheers!
southalabama
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New bench looks great.
Where is the HF Box going to fit into the scheme?
Where is the HF Box going to fit into the scheme?
Stuart in MN
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Sounds like your car's engine liked the cool air, but I would have expected the track tires to be kind of slippery in those temps (although thinking about it a little more, I imagine they go warmed up after a lap or two.)
tinbender 66
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That looks like a nice place to spend some quality time with your stool. Your attention to detail is inspiring.
OP
Thanks, guys.
E-Tek, the lighting is just what's in the garage. I didn't have the budget for big banks of fluorescents, so I've got a bunch of CFL bulbs stick in those $5 clip-on trouble lights the big box stores sell. There are also some Ikea pendant lights, some Ikea spot lights, and my cake pan lights. The effect is that the garage doesn't have the kind of flat, all-over lighting you see in most shops. Instead, it's the kind of lighting that (I guess) resembles photography-studio lighting. There are specific lights pointed at task areas like the bench top.
southalabama, I sold the HF bench to another Garage Journaler.
Stuart, you're right about the power bump from the cooler temperatures -- but I run on tires that aren't crazy sticky to start with, and I drop a couple pounds of pressure so they get more heat into them, sooner. All things considered, if I could run in 45° ambient every time I go out, that would be just about perfect. But a lot of times, this track sees temps that are well north of 100. (And there was a 50° change from morning to afternoon on this particular day.)
And thanks, tinbender66. From 20 feet or so, my chops and welds look respectable. Fortunately for me, I decide where to set the camera.
E-Tek, the lighting is just what's in the garage. I didn't have the budget for big banks of fluorescents, so I've got a bunch of CFL bulbs stick in those $5 clip-on trouble lights the big box stores sell. There are also some Ikea pendant lights, some Ikea spot lights, and my cake pan lights. The effect is that the garage doesn't have the kind of flat, all-over lighting you see in most shops. Instead, it's the kind of lighting that (I guess) resembles photography-studio lighting. There are specific lights pointed at task areas like the bench top.
southalabama, I sold the HF bench to another Garage Journaler.
Stuart, you're right about the power bump from the cooler temperatures -- but I run on tires that aren't crazy sticky to start with, and I drop a couple pounds of pressure so they get more heat into them, sooner. All things considered, if I could run in 45° ambient every time I go out, that would be just about perfect. But a lot of times, this track sees temps that are well north of 100. (And there was a 50° change from morning to afternoon on this particular day.)
And thanks, tinbender66. From 20 feet or so, my chops and welds look respectable. Fortunately for me, I decide where to set the camera.
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Jack, can you explain your reasoning here? I'm considering hitch mounts for my garage. I'd be curious to hear the pros and cons.
ChristopherLutz
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Jack - just a quick 'two thumbs up' on the creativity. (and for the time taken to document / post).
The donor to end state pics are fun to look at. Personally, that aspect of your garage is my favorite.
Most of your benches/work surfaces, boxes, etc....all started life with a distinctly different purpose and/or size.
I hope you're enjoying the new desk. Now that you have a place to sit facing the rear of the garage...what are you going to do with that table you built at the front?
The donor to end state pics are fun to look at. Personally, that aspect of your garage is my favorite.
Most of your benches/work surfaces, boxes, etc....all started life with a distinctly different purpose and/or size.
I hope you're enjoying the new desk. Now that you have a place to sit facing the rear of the garage...what are you going to do with that table you built at the front?
OP
Well, I think it depends on a few different factors, like the types of work you're doing and how you go about doing it. Some guys have one bench that they roll to where they're working. A hitch mount for a vise, grinder, bender, or whatever can be a great idea. I have a fold-down table for welding, and I like having a hitch there for an extra vise. If I left the vise there, I'd be bumping into it every time I walked past the car.
But I've got several benches on the non-car side of the garage, and now there are two vises over there. So moving one doesn't really make sense. I've also found a place I like for my grinder, so it's come off its hitch mount.
I like the idea. It's just that for me, there's only one place in the garage where I've found I've been using it.
Thanks.
I think the part that hooks me in, in an almost OCD sort of way, is that I simply can't picture the thing I'm going to make. I'm not a good planner, and I'm not good at that kind of visualizing. So it's always a kind of surprise when I get to the end of that process. (Not always a good surprise, honestly -- but it works out more often than it doesn't.)
The bench at the front remains good for a lot of things. Whenever I'm working on the car, it's the flat surface closest to where the engine is. And I'm keeping a stool on that side of the garage -- I'll still sit there. But the nice thing about the back bench is that it's where the hand tools are kept -- most of which I can access without having to stand up.
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OP
OCD-driven change of the day. I had about five minutes in the garage, and I got to thinking about the different color schemes of the two tool boxes. I think I'm going to change the flat black on the faces of the new drawers to satin -- the current finish just holds too much dust. And that made me think -- well, if I do that, it'd be pretty easy to re-paint those bright chrome handles on the Craftsman box to my new warm gray color.
So I thought 'I'll just test that,' and I painted the top two rows. I'm not clear on how I saw that as a test, since there's really no going back. So if you look carefully in the picture above, you'll see the future of the Craftsman stack. So much for re-sale. But then, I don't tend to re-sell.
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Red Leader
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OCD-driven change of the day. I had about five minutes in the garage, and I got to thinking about the different color schemes of the two tool boxes. I think I'm going to change the flat black on the faces of the new drawers to satin -- the current finish just holds too much dust. And that made me think -- well, if I do that, it'd be pretty easy to re-paint those bright chrome handles on the Craftsman box to my new warm gray color.
So I thought 'I'll just test that,' and I painted the top two rows. I'm not clear on how I saw that as a test, since there's really no going back. So if you look carefully in the picture above, you'll see the future of the Craftsman stack. So much for re-sale. But then, I don't tend to re-sell.
The uniformity works well. And that Wilton sure looks nice sitting up there
SpeedyGee
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Jack, your a brave brave man painting your toolbox handles
From that picture though they do look good.
From that picture though they do look good.
GirlnAgarage
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Was wondering if that was going to bother you. In fact, color schemes and repainting toolboxes was one of the reason I built my drawers and didn't buy a toolbox. Well, that and I didn't quite find the one I wanted - got close but no cigar.
Anyway, looking forward to a finished panned out shot.
Are you spraying or brushing?
Anyway, looking forward to a finished panned out shot.
Are you spraying or brushing?
OP
Thanks.
My first try with the handles was to use a brush, since that seemed simpler. (I used a wire brush to scuff the serrated surface, then wiped with acetone.) But it didn't work well at all. So I switched to spray. That was quick, although it requires a lot of masking/drop-clothing.
I know it's a little risky to paint such a high-contact item as a handle. But it worked fine on the drawers under the bench (they were gold-colored), and the odd thing is that a lot of the contact is with the back side of the handle. We'll see how it holds up, but I'm more optimistic about it now that I've done it a few times.
My first try with the handles was to use a brush, since that seemed simpler. (I used a wire brush to scuff the serrated surface, then wiped with acetone.) But it didn't work well at all. So I switched to spray. That was quick, although it requires a lot of masking/drop-clothing.
I know it's a little risky to paint such a high-contact item as a handle. But it worked fine on the drawers under the bench (they were gold-colored), and the odd thing is that a lot of the contact is with the back side of the handle. We'll see how it holds up, but I'm more optimistic about it now that I've done it a few times.
GirlnAgarage
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Are you using a primer (self etching) before spray? Iff'n you're having trouble with chip offs later, might help. But the backside being the contact area, should last unless they get bumped or scraped by hard objects or tools.
buening
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Jack, if your Craftsmans are like mine the chrome trim on the handle slides off with the drawer open. I think there are little tabs that hold them in place. You could remove them and have them powdercoated if you have issues with your current paint, but it doesn't address the backside portion of handle where the fingers touch....but then again you won't see that area