ChristopherLutz
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Jack -
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Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT The 12-Gauge Garage
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Workspaces sized between 265 and 485 squarefeet.
OP
The three vises are all second-hand Wiltons that I cleaned up and repainted.
The biggest is a 1765, which was made in 2004 and has 6-1/2" jaws.
The ugliest of the bunch is a C1 with 4-1/2" jaws. I think it's from 1989.
The best looking one (am I really talking about the looks of a vise?) is a 9450, which also has 4-1/2" jaws and was made in 1973.
The bad thing about Wiltons is that they've become kind of over-valued on the market. There are other good American-made vises that won't command the high 'fad' prices Wilton's are getting now. The good thing about Wiltons is that they're a pretty good American-made vise, and they have a cool and distinct design to them.
The biggest is a 1765, which was made in 2004 and has 6-1/2" jaws.
The ugliest of the bunch is a C1 with 4-1/2" jaws. I think it's from 1989.
The best looking one (am I really talking about the looks of a vise?) is a 9450, which also has 4-1/2" jaws and was made in 1973.
The bad thing about Wiltons is that they've become kind of over-valued on the market. There are other good American-made vises that won't command the high 'fad' prices Wilton's are getting now. The good thing about Wiltons is that they're a pretty good American-made vise, and they have a cool and distinct design to them.
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OP
I know. It's crazy.
If you want a really good vise, I think it's better to search for a second-hand Reed, Parker, Athol, Prentiss or Ridgid.
If you're willing to spend $100, the best value for a tried-and-true vise design is the Sears Craftsman Professional 4-1/2" model.
It looks familiar because it's the Wilton 1745 design. But it's manufactured overseas, so it's about a third the price of the comparable Wilton. Is it as good as the Wilton? No. But we've all got to decide how much we ought to spend on a vise. And it's better to buy a Chinese knock-off made to Wilton's specs than one that's just been improvised by a designer somewhere.
If you want a really good vise, I think it's better to search for a second-hand Reed, Parker, Athol, Prentiss or Ridgid.
If you're willing to spend $100, the best value for a tried-and-true vise design is the Sears Craftsman Professional 4-1/2" model.
It looks familiar because it's the Wilton 1745 design. But it's manufactured overseas, so it's about a third the price of the comparable Wilton. Is it as good as the Wilton? No. But we've all got to decide how much we ought to spend on a vise. And it's better to buy a Chinese knock-off made to Wilton's specs than one that's just been improvised by a designer somewhere.
Zeke
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I'm not too keen on the metal used on the Chinese made vises. You and I both have the 45# HF anvil (I've seen yours in the pics of the south(?) wall. When I hit a piece of steel on mine with a hammer, I get a thud and not anything like ring. And it dents.
I've got and old Columbian and and older Anthol and I would feel better about beating and cranking on them.
I've got and old Columbian and and older Anthol and I would feel better about beating and cranking on them.
admranger
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The three vises are all second-hand Wiltons that I cleaned up and repainted.
The biggest is a 1765, which was made in 2004 and has 6-1/2" jaws.
The ugliest of the bunch is a C1 with 4-1/2" jaws. I think it's from 1989.
The best looking one (am I really talking about the looks of a vise?) is a 9450, which also has 4-1/2" jaws and was made in 1973.
The bad thing about Wilton's is that they've become kind of over-valued on the market. There are other good American-made vises that won't command the high 'fad' prices Wilton's are getting now. The good thing about Wiltons is that they're a pretty good American-made vise, and they have a cool and distinct design to them.
Definitely need to get a new vise for the garage re-do... I always miss out on the deals on the 'bay though. CL in Vegas is grim. I've seen one Wilton for sale and it was brand new and sold in less than a day.
zip95864
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Definitely need to get a new vise for the garage re-do... I always miss out on the deals on the 'bay though. CL in Vegas is grim. I've seen one Wilton for sale and it was brand new and sold in less than a day.
I've posted this in another thread, but here's the search I used which scours for all sorts of vises that others might not search for. Helped me land a decent price on a Parker vise.
link
OP
Well, I used plywood because it was what I had on hand. I didn't have a setup where I could mount the motor down below, like some guys do. And I couldn't think of a way to tension the belt other than using its own weight and a pair of hinges. I guess if I had more time, I might have tried to make it out of steel instead of wood. But the wood has worked out pretty well.
Here it is all ugly and improvised.
And with paint:
Also, the friction tape I used instead of an actual rubber tire for the wheels has been holding up fine. It's a good, cheap trick.
Here it is all ugly and improvised.
And with paint:
Also, the friction tape I used instead of an actual rubber tire for the wheels has been holding up fine. It's a good, cheap trick.
Dude you got all the ideas! LOL I actually need to replace my "tires" on my bandsaw. What friction tape did you happen to use? Sure would help
Also, did you replace the blade guard or just polish it up? I need to polish mine up and also my table where it has acquired rust from old building which is falling apart. Now it's time to clean everything up. What did you use etc..
Many Thanks!
Also, did you replace the blade guard or just polish it up? I need to polish mine up and also my table where it has acquired rust from old building which is falling apart. Now it's time to clean everything up. What did you use etc..
Many Thanks!
Nice link! Many Thanks!
Jack, I like your friction tape idea. I've got an old bandsaw made from a kit, probably from the 1960's, that I only use occasionally. It was built by a relative of ours on my Bride's side, and is big and ugly and takes up way too much room, and the rubber wheels have completely deteriorated to the point that I can't use it anymore. I've wanted to get rid of it, but it's family, if that makes any sense. So your friction tape idea is worth a try to save it.
Thanks for bringing us all these great ideas. By the way, you are shaming me into getting my vice up to "12 Gauge Garage" specs! Then to get better organized.......a never ending process, but then it's the journey, not the destination, right?
GGB
Thanks for bringing us all these great ideas. By the way, you are shaming me into getting my vice up to "12 Gauge Garage" specs! Then to get better organized.......a never ending process, but then it's the journey, not the destination, right?
GGB
odie
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Jack, do you spray or brush the paint on the vise? After seeing yours, then looking at mine, as well as the grinder, mine need a good clean up and a fresh coat of paint.
1Garageman
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OP
I agree. Although the spec on the Chinese Wilton's cast iron is 60,000 psi, which is the same as the really good Wiltons (and double the spec for the inexpensive Wiltons). But given the choice between a second-hand top-tier vise and a brand new Chinese one, I think the quality will generally be better on the older vises.
I think I sanded off the surface rust on the table, and just did a quick clean-up on everything else. The easy way to 'mask off' the top surface of the table when you paint it is to turn it upside down on a very flat surface and spray it.
I used 3M 3407NA friction tape, which is 3/4" wide.
Thanks. But the friction tape idea wasn't mine. It was either posted in a thread here or someone sent me an email. I wish I remembered who it was.
I spray-bombed it. I used an angle grinder with a wire brush to get the old paint off, then used automotive (self-etching) primer, then good ol' Rustoleum. The color is called Anodized Bronze. The vises won't stay pretty for too long, I'm sure. But they look better than they did when I got them.
Although I've seen Wiltons brought back from much worse condition on this forum.
Hey Jack, I was driving into work this morning and look what I saw on the back of a truck being towed. I thought of you and just had to take a picture of it!
Actually, both the Porsche and the Minivan are in my world right now. My wife wants a Honda Odyssey.
If you're willing to spend $100, the best value for a tried-and-true vise design is the Sears Craftsman Professional 4-1/2" model.
There's been some informative stuff on GJ about the details of this vise and how to get it squared away:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142872
Like some things HF sells that are made in China, it's like they did 85% of the work, and then passed the savings on to you! I've eyed this vise as a good value, too. CL is dead for vises in my town.
Jack, everybody I know who has an Odyssey, loves their Odyssey!
914forme
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Odyssey is great, and GRM used to tow a small AL car trailer with their's before they got the pilot. I would not own one, though. Now the Mid Engine Toyota van, yeah that makes sense to me. Its got racing heritage you know
I do have to say the new ones, I don't like the lower window line, it looks like the designer sneezed when they where penning the window line. Its right at the C pillar, I find it crazy looking, just messes with the flow of the van.
I do have to say the new ones, I don't like the lower window line, it looks like the designer sneezed when they where penning the window line. Its right at the C pillar, I find it crazy looking, just messes with the flow of the van.
BigAl62
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Odyssey is great, and GRM used to tow a small AL car trailer with their's before they got the pilot. I would not own one, though. Now the Mid Engine Toyota van, yeah that makes sense to me. Its got racing heritage you know
I do have to say the new ones, I don't like the lower window line, it looks like the designer sneezed when they where penning the window line. Its right at the C pillar, I find it crazy looking, just messes with the flow of the van.
Have you ever actually worked on one of those Toyota vans? They **** to even do an oil change on (what other vehicle do you risk spilling oil INSIDE of when filling it?)! I always hated seeing them come into the shop.
That mid-engined Toyota van was an answer to a question nobody was asking! I don't mind a 15-degrees-off-level slant 4, or the lay-down intake manifold. That was kinda neat. But once you start running a propellor shaft to the nose of the van to drive belts, uh, now you're just getting silly.
I also agree about the jog in the beltline of the current Odyssey. There's a global taste crisis going on and Honda has finally started to participate, alas. I call those kinds of things, "Bet you weren't expecting THIS!" and to that I reply, "You're right. I was hoping you'd do something beautiful, or handsome, or restrained, or tasteful. Not something random and stupid." And don't get me started on fender gill mania.
I also agree about the jog in the beltline of the current Odyssey. There's a global taste crisis going on and Honda has finally started to participate, alas. I call those kinds of things, "Bet you weren't expecting THIS!" and to that I reply, "You're right. I was hoping you'd do something beautiful, or handsome, or restrained, or tasteful. Not something random and stupid." And don't get me started on fender gill mania.
zuk123
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When I worked in the auto industry it was very common for 2 different teams to work on the design for the front and the rear of a vehicle.
Once I learned this, SO MANY poor choices made sense. (Nissan Armada I'm looking at you.)
They literally ARE 2 different cars from the front and rear.
zuk
Once I learned this, SO MANY poor choices made sense. (Nissan Armada I'm looking at you.)
They literally ARE 2 different cars from the front and rear.
zuk
914forme
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The toyota van was a joke people did you miss the :wink: at the end? Its a total POS a play on the mid engine location bringing balance to the package.
Squankum I agree but on a much larger sense, automotive design in general is in a big crisis right now. Look at Nissan, the Juke really why has nobody bashed that thing, its almost as bad as the Pontiac Aztec. The 270Z is nice except the fangs in the front grill, I guess they where hoping to get some purchases from "Twilight" fans. This comes from a guy who drives a Porsche 914 which are not know as a pretty car. I do have to say they look much better now.
BigAl, I have worked on them, and hate them for several reasons, I have more cuts from them than cheap computer cases my boss insists on buying.
Now back to Jack's garage, thank you for sharing your secrets on how to paint a vice. I have two I need to restore. And always showing your wonderful solutions to things most of the time I would botch.
Squankum I agree but on a much larger sense, automotive design in general is in a big crisis right now. Look at Nissan, the Juke really why has nobody bashed that thing, its almost as bad as the Pontiac Aztec. The 270Z is nice except the fangs in the front grill, I guess they where hoping to get some purchases from "Twilight" fans. This comes from a guy who drives a Porsche 914 which are not know as a pretty car. I do have to say they look much better now.
BigAl, I have worked on them, and hate them for several reasons, I have more cuts from them than cheap computer cases my boss insists on buying.
Now back to Jack's garage, thank you for sharing your secrets on how to paint a vice. I have two I need to restore. And always showing your wonderful solutions to things most of the time I would botch.
darkbuddha
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All the new touches and additions look great Jack. Though, I gotta admit that I sometimes get worried for you... I start thinking you're running out of stuff that you can make even more awesomer-er-er and that you'll suddenly have withdrawal pains and end up buying a Skoda to restore or something. Then I realize that you're Jack freakin' Olsen: you'll surely find something to tweak, switch up, flip on its head, and make our eyes pop and jaws drop again (and again, and again).
BTW, a little input on the Odyssey... we bought an '07 brand new. As much as I hate to admit it, it's been a great minivan... actually more of a utility vehicle, because it's been way more than just a people hauler. I've hauled stuff in it that most couldn't/wouldn't put in their SUVs (or even trucks). I've hauled full length 2x4s, full 4x8 sheets of plywood, furniture, cabinets, engine stand & hoist (at the same time), 2 of the big HF tool cabinets, a fully dressed SBC, several 4 cyls, large loads of body parts (i.e.fenders, valences, etc., not arms and legs), and I can do it in the rain without a worry of ruining/damaging whatever I'm hauling. Not to mention I've carried as many as 8 passengers at one time, with luggage, and it's got great a/c, leather interior, dvd player, and 13 cupholders, pulls 25mpg on the highway at 80mph, and is comfortable and stable event at over 100mph. So in spite of the fact that I don't exactly enjoy driving it (though it's far from terrible), it's been a damn fine van.
BTW, a little input on the Odyssey... we bought an '07 brand new. As much as I hate to admit it, it's been a great minivan... actually more of a utility vehicle, because it's been way more than just a people hauler. I've hauled stuff in it that most couldn't/wouldn't put in their SUVs (or even trucks). I've hauled full length 2x4s, full 4x8 sheets of plywood, furniture, cabinets, engine stand & hoist (at the same time), 2 of the big HF tool cabinets, a fully dressed SBC, several 4 cyls, large loads of body parts (i.e.fenders, valences, etc., not arms and legs), and I can do it in the rain without a worry of ruining/damaging whatever I'm hauling. Not to mention I've carried as many as 8 passengers at one time, with luggage, and it's got great a/c, leather interior, dvd player, and 13 cupholders, pulls 25mpg on the highway at 80mph, and is comfortable and stable event at over 100mph. So in spite of the fact that I don't exactly enjoy driving it (though it's far from terrible), it's been a damn fine van.
darkbuddha
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BTW, I say this all the time to friends... we keep getting screwed with the USDM version of the Ody in terms of exterior styling. That JDM version though... whoa! Example: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ubyB3W-zE...bA/s1600/wpid-Honda_Odyssey_4WD_2007_4370.jpg
The only problem is that they're kinda small (appropriately for the Japanese marketplace). Here's a pic to show scale: http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eaga...onare/2012/JAN2012/TAS-CarParkP1/IMG_0001.jpg
The only problem is that they're kinda small (appropriately for the Japanese marketplace). Here's a pic to show scale: http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eaga...onare/2012/JAN2012/TAS-CarParkP1/IMG_0001.jpg
OP
I'd agree about the current state of automotive styling. It's in a tailspin. But then, the last era for design that really gets my heart going ended in the early sixties.
But still, there have been some designs that returned to better proportions/lines/whatever that I've really liked. But those are few and far between.
Then again, a minivan is more about function than anything else. And the important thing will be whether my wife likes it. (We've rented one for this week to find out.)
Outside of the garage, this is what I put together on Friday morning. It's a turn-by-turn guide to my local race track. I'll tell you, I do NOT have a future in voice-over (what's that tone to my voice, anyway? ). But it gets across the basic idea of how to get around the 'Fastest Road in the West."
WILLOW SPRINGS INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO LINK
I doubt it's of much interest to anyone outside of guys who drive on this track. But it took me four freakin' hours to do, so I'm posting it.
But still, there have been some designs that returned to better proportions/lines/whatever that I've really liked. But those are few and far between.
Then again, a minivan is more about function than anything else. And the important thing will be whether my wife likes it. (We've rented one for this week to find out.)
Outside of the garage, this is what I put together on Friday morning. It's a turn-by-turn guide to my local race track. I'll tell you, I do NOT have a future in voice-over (what's that tone to my voice, anyway?
). But it gets across the basic idea of how to get around the 'Fastest Road in the West."WILLOW SPRINGS INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO LINK
I doubt it's of much interest to anyone outside of guys who drive on this track. But it took me four freakin' hours to do, so I'm posting it.
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Zeke
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I was following an Odyssey yesterday when I realized I was looking at the car Jack may get. I assume it will be black, eh Jack?
Anyway, I could see the sliding doors on both sides. I guess all the mini vans have this feature these days plus the ability to arrange the seating in various configs or take it all out.
Then it hit me. Jack's wife wants this? I think Jack may greatly benefit from a vehicle like this. Let me mention the ways:
A new cabinet or other large dimension object will be much easier to transport than on a Jeep CJ7 just as would be a sheet of plywood.
A new track hauler. As we all know, a racing kart is planned.
I hope Weathertech makes a full length one of these. You're gonna need this, Jack.
Anyway, I could see the sliding doors on both sides. I guess all the mini vans have this feature these days plus the ability to arrange the seating in various configs or take it all out.
Then it hit me. Jack's wife wants this? I think Jack may greatly benefit from a vehicle like this. Let me mention the ways:
A new cabinet or other large dimension object will be much easier to transport than on a Jeep CJ7 just as would be a sheet of plywood.
A new track hauler. As we all know, a racing kart is planned.
I hope Weathertech makes a full length one of these. You're gonna need this, Jack.
1Garageman
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OP
Well, the minivan came to an odd end. My wife was stopped at a light in Hollywood when a guy plowed into her as she sat. She's fine -- she even saw the doctor the next day to confirm it. And I supposed if you have to get into an accident where you're not at fault, then a rental car is the most convenient way to do it. They came and picked up the car. She went back to driving her Prius. No driving around in a broken car. No hassles with body shops. The other guy's insurance company will work it out with the rental company.
Then again, she liked the fact that she got hit and didn't get hurt, so she still might want to get an Odyssey. We'll see.
And thanks, Mikewoods (and 1Garageman). The fact that there are 101 rambling pages of this is nudging me toward also making a web page that would have the more-pertinent information laid out without all the discussion and subject changes (mostly my own fault). Don't get me wrong, I like the discussion. But if someone wants to just see what's in this garage, it's a lot of work to wade through all my talk about race car aerodynamics. A web site would clear away a lot of my chatter.
But then, making a web site is a lot of work, too.
On an unrelated note, I'm enjoying my new (old) Wilton 1765 vise. But it's one of the models that didn't have a WILTON logo cast into the metal. It's one where they put on the foil sticker instead. In cleaning it up, I thought about ordering a replacement sticker. But there's one problem: I think the newer Wilton logo is ugly as sin. Here's an example grabbed through Google.
I'm sorry. I can't have that in my shop. It's a great company, with a fine name. But I hate the type they chose. And that weird 'O' is just too much. Is it supposed to be the moon?
Now, the old cast-in company name looks awesome, in my opinion:
So I had an idea -- that didn't pan out. But here's where it started. When I got the little metal tag made for the back of my chair that said 'The 12-Gauge Garage,' I used a company that makes metal name tags. Even so, it was really expensive -- something like $25 before it got to my house. Even so, I thought I could make a similar tag to fit in the space where Wilton puts their logo sticker. And in place of the newer (ugly) logo, I could just have it say WILTON like the cast-in models did.
But it turned out the company doesn't make name tags in that size. And the costs would have really gotten ridiculous if I used a sign printing company.
So I gave up on the idea.
But then a couple of weeks ago I was ordering some prints of family pictures from an online site called RitzPix, and I saw that they were now able to print photographs onto aluminum. I called them with an idea: if a digital image had transparent background built into it, would the aluminum show through? My thought was I could send them a picture of the version of the Wilton logo I liked with a transparent alpha channel in the file (I was a graphic designer about 20 years ago), so it would essentially end up being black letters printed on top of aluminum -- but a lot cheaper.
I spoke with a woman on the phone who said it should work.
So I sent in a test file -- and... it didn't work. They called me up and said the transparency wasn't working, that the whole image was going to be black. They asked if I still wanted the order. I said no. They canceled the order and sent me a refund.
Then a couple days ago, my order shows up in the mail. It wasn't what I ordered, really. There was no transparency. You couldn't see the aluminum at all. In fact, an entirely new background color (kind of a creme/off-white) had been put in. Odd. But hey, I'd gotten my refund, so there was no reason to complain about the change.
This was free.
Today I decided to see if I could cut the aluminum easily (it was too thick to use snips), and it worked, pretty much. It didn't cut beautifully, but I was using a table saw to cut it, so I'm lucky I've still got all ten fingers.
Here's a picture of the two 'logos' I'd put in the digital file, cut down to size:
I'd thrown two in because the minimum size they'd print was 5"x7". My edge cutting is sloppy. It looks better in these pictures than it does in real life. Still: it was free.
Here's one side of the 1765:
And here's the other side, now with my no-cost name plate.
And here's the other one on the green 1760 that's headed (sooner or later) to Ebay.
Closer in, you can see there's almost an enamel type finish on the print:
When I sell it, I'll have to disclose that it is not a Wilton plate -- or a logo on a plate that Wilton would have ever put on there. But then, the green paint is hardly 'Wilton stock' either. It's a one-of-a-kind vise now, for better or worse.
I think it's better than just having the blank space. But I'm curious. What are your opinions?
Then again, she liked the fact that she got hit and didn't get hurt, so she still might want to get an Odyssey. We'll see.
And thanks, Mikewoods (and 1Garageman). The fact that there are 101 rambling pages of this is nudging me toward also making a web page that would have the more-pertinent information laid out without all the discussion and subject changes (mostly my own fault). Don't get me wrong, I like the discussion. But if someone wants to just see what's in this garage, it's a lot of work to wade through all my talk about race car aerodynamics. A web site would clear away a lot of my chatter.
But then, making a web site is a lot of work, too.
On an unrelated note, I'm enjoying my new (old) Wilton 1765 vise. But it's one of the models that didn't have a WILTON logo cast into the metal. It's one where they put on the foil sticker instead. In cleaning it up, I thought about ordering a replacement sticker. But there's one problem: I think the newer Wilton logo is ugly as sin. Here's an example grabbed through Google.
I'm sorry. I can't have that in my shop. It's a great company, with a fine name. But I hate the type they chose. And that weird 'O' is just too much. Is it supposed to be the moon?
Now, the old cast-in company name looks awesome, in my opinion:
So I had an idea -- that didn't pan out. But here's where it started. When I got the little metal tag made for the back of my chair that said 'The 12-Gauge Garage,' I used a company that makes metal name tags. Even so, it was really expensive -- something like $25 before it got to my house. Even so, I thought I could make a similar tag to fit in the space where Wilton puts their logo sticker. And in place of the newer (ugly) logo, I could just have it say WILTON like the cast-in models did.
But it turned out the company doesn't make name tags in that size. And the costs would have really gotten ridiculous if I used a sign printing company.
So I gave up on the idea.
But then a couple of weeks ago I was ordering some prints of family pictures from an online site called RitzPix, and I saw that they were now able to print photographs onto aluminum. I called them with an idea: if a digital image had transparent background built into it, would the aluminum show through? My thought was I could send them a picture of the version of the Wilton logo I liked with a transparent alpha channel in the file (I was a graphic designer about 20 years ago), so it would essentially end up being black letters printed on top of aluminum -- but a lot cheaper.
I spoke with a woman on the phone who said it should work.
So I sent in a test file -- and... it didn't work. They called me up and said the transparency wasn't working, that the whole image was going to be black. They asked if I still wanted the order. I said no. They canceled the order and sent me a refund.
Then a couple days ago, my order shows up in the mail. It wasn't what I ordered, really. There was no transparency. You couldn't see the aluminum at all. In fact, an entirely new background color (kind of a creme/off-white) had been put in. Odd. But hey, I'd gotten my refund, so there was no reason to complain about the change.
This was free.
Today I decided to see if I could cut the aluminum easily (it was too thick to use snips), and it worked, pretty much. It didn't cut beautifully, but I was using a table saw to cut it, so I'm lucky I've still got all ten fingers.
Here's a picture of the two 'logos' I'd put in the digital file, cut down to size:
I'd thrown two in because the minimum size they'd print was 5"x7". My edge cutting is sloppy. It looks better in these pictures than it does in real life. Still: it was free.
Here's one side of the 1765:
And here's the other side, now with my no-cost name plate.
And here's the other one on the green 1760 that's headed (sooner or later) to Ebay.
Closer in, you can see there's almost an enamel type finish on the print:
When I sell it, I'll have to disclose that it is not a Wilton plate -- or a logo on a plate that Wilton would have ever put on there. But then, the green paint is hardly 'Wilton stock' either. It's a one-of-a-kind vise now, for better or worse.
I think it's better than just having the blank space. But I'm curious. What are your opinions?
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takeiteasy
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Glad everyone's OK! On the Oddysey front, if you're buying used, there's a number of years to watch out for for bad Auto ******'s.
I like the look of the nameplate. I'm not sure if it looks better because it matches your tile...but the cream gives it a bit of a vintage look, like the green does. It also looks like too much work...but that's why your garage looks like it does and mine looks like mine does!
Looks great like always!
I like the look of the nameplate. I'm not sure if it looks better because it matches your tile...but the cream gives it a bit of a vintage look, like the green does. It also looks like too much work...but that's why your garage looks like it does and mine looks like mine does!
Looks great like always!
EdT
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Jack,
I think the new label looks better than just a vacant space. If you were really OCD about little details like that (you're not are you?) I bet you could pull a silicone mold off the original cast-logo vise and, with a bit of effort, cast a new metal logo from low melting point metal, zinc, pewter or the like on a plate that fits the space in the newer casting. You could even pull an impression of the empty space in the new casting and make a mold combining it with the old logo. Several steps are involved to get there, but it would be an interesting bit of obsession.
I think the new label looks better than just a vacant space. If you were really OCD about little details like that (you're not are you?) I bet you could pull a silicone mold off the original cast-logo vise and, with a bit of effort, cast a new metal logo from low melting point metal, zinc, pewter or the like on a plate that fits the space in the newer casting. You could even pull an impression of the empty space in the new casting and make a mold combining it with the old logo. Several steps are involved to get there, but it would be an interesting bit of obsession.
Zeke
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Glad to hear no injuries, but that is very weird. A true odyssey in the Honda.
Make that Odd-e-ssey. Oman-e ssey.
What are the chances you go rent a car on a lark, a test, you don't need it, totally elective and that's the one that gets smashed while your own car sits idle?
Make that Odd-e-ssey. Oman-e ssey.
What are the chances you go rent a car on a lark, a test, you don't need it, totally elective and that's the one that gets smashed while your own car sits idle?
ChristopherLutz
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Jack -
on the accident, "whew" - those are scary regardless of the circumstances. FWIW, I had a small Honda Civic that was totaled in a similar style accident. It folded up and the dash was so pressed up against my legs, I couldn't get my legs out.
Fuel Efficiency is great...until you have an accident, then it hardly seems worth the savings. Just my 2p. VERY glad there weren't any injuries
On the vise - I'm not sure why you think the new logo will lower the value? I think it looks MUCH better than the silvery weird "O".
I really like the custom look...all in all, those vise resto's turned out very nice.
on the accident, "whew" - those are scary regardless of the circumstances. FWIW, I had a small Honda Civic that was totaled in a similar style accident. It folded up and the dash was so pressed up against my legs, I couldn't get my legs out.
Fuel Efficiency is great...until you have an accident, then it hardly seems worth the savings. Just my 2p. VERY glad there weren't any injuries
On the vise - I'm not sure why you think the new logo will lower the value? I think it looks MUCH better than the silvery weird "O".
I really like the custom look...all in all, those vise resto's turned out very nice.
santagary
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I really enjoyed your Willow Run laps and they make me miss my Boxter even more. Coming off Wolf Creek Pass last year I had it up to 122 in fourth. I loved the paddle shift on the wheel vs. the stick 5 speed...that feature even made me look good. The exhaust note emanating from a Porsche at speed is very exciting to me. I'm into that I guess cause I even have catback special exhaust on my Lincoln town car which produces a nice rumble at speed and while decelerating. By the way, I sold the Boxter and used the money to buy a new 2011 Jeep JK for our 4 wheeling adventures in the Rockies...life is full of choices isn't it?
OP
Thanks, guys. And thanks, Gary. I understand the Jeep decision. You've got to have the right car for the local terrain. I sometimes get very frustrated with the 911 because of the terrible quality of the city roads here in Los Angeles. But at the track, it wins me back.
I just had the floors re-done in the house, which involved my moving everything in the house into the kitchen or out on the patio -- and then carefully moving it all back. Professionals did the actual work, changing the floors to a new color in the process. But I got some paper to protect the floors when I was working, and used a piece of it to create a basic backdrop to take a picture of the outgoing vise. It's surprising how much sunlight adds blue to the color. The light in the garage made it look much more yellow-y green. I think the actual color is somewhere between the two.
But not a bad way to take a 'product' picture. No lights. No tripod. Just point and shoot -- and it still comes out looking clear.
Now, a side question: do pictures this wide make viewing a pain in the neck on most computers? I recently got a laptop with a bigger screen, and my 800-pixel-wide pictures started looking tiny.
I just had the floors re-done in the house, which involved my moving everything in the house into the kitchen or out on the patio -- and then carefully moving it all back. Professionals did the actual work, changing the floors to a new color in the process. But I got some paper to protect the floors when I was working, and used a piece of it to create a basic backdrop to take a picture of the outgoing vise. It's surprising how much sunlight adds blue to the color. The light in the garage made it look much more yellow-y green. I think the actual color is somewhere between the two.
But not a bad way to take a 'product' picture. No lights. No tripod. Just point and shoot -- and it still comes out looking clear.
Now, a side question: do pictures this wide make viewing a pain in the neck on most computers? I recently got a laptop with a bigger screen, and my 800-pixel-wide pictures started looking tiny.
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Zeke
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Looks fine to me. Where did you source the finger protectors? Not very many vises keep those on long!
BigAl62
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Glad to hear your wife was OK after the accident. The right vehicle can save you. My 2002 Ford Crown Victoria was rear ended last December. We (my wife and I) were stopped at a red light, the guy who hit us was doing between 35 and 40 mph and never hit his brakes (he told the cop he thought the light was green). We were pushed into a car that was in front of us, so both ends of my car were wrecked. We walked away with no injuries (my wife was sore where the seat belt caught her, that's all). My car was totaled (over $8,000 worth of damage and was worth just over $9,000), bent the frame and everything. You better believe I replaced it with another one!
1Garageman
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First of all, glad to hear that your wife is OK!!!
The vice looks great. I am very glad that you put a dollar bill down there so we can get a perspective as to how big that vice really is.
The vice looks great. I am very glad that you put a dollar bill down there so we can get a perspective as to how big that vice really is.
morfmedia
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Glad everyone was ok in the accident. On my 17" laptop the vice picture is around 1/2 of the width of the screen. I was going to say you're a lucky person but I guess the wilton badge good luck was negatively balanced with the car accident. Shame you missed out on the huge lottery win....