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Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT The 12-Gauge Garage

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The wiring for the candle will run through the frame, but it will be 3V. I'd be a little leery about running 120V through a structure that opens and closes. Sooner or later, it seems like the wire would fray or break.

Love the gate. An idea to throw just to go around the wiring problems. If you mount a small 12VDC battery on the gate with a small solar panel you shouldn't have to worry about the wiring being in a mobile environment. I guess you could also do it with a 3V battery as well.
 
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Jack did you build the planters? my wife has been asking me to build her some. just wondering on the details.
 
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Thanks!

How does that cordless Rigid tool work out?

It worked fine. The smaller size of the cordless circular saw meant I was able to cut all eight of the pillar assemblies in place, and it went through all of them with no problem -- plenty of charge left on the battery when the job was done.

Where did you get those lights??

I don't comment much but I have been following your thread for a couple of years. Incredible, simply incredible!!! I'm borrowing your sunshade idea for my pergola. Sometimes the sun is just too much, even in Chicago.

Thanks. Remember to figure for snow load in Chicago -- which probably means making the shade removable for the colder months. There are kits for grommets.

The lights are just Japanese style spheres, although they're made out of vinyl instead of paper. The light fixtures inside are outdoor pieces from Lowe's. Here's a link to where I got the $7 spheres:

http://www.paperlanternstore.com/20whnyla.html

Hi Jack,

I like the perimeter "troughs" with the impatiens - very attractive and an excellent choice for this cool shaded area. Did you (will you) plumb in some drip lines? I'd suggest it if you haven't. I'm sure water would be easy to add if you T a small valve off your hose bib below the deck. Also, if you put them on a timer you'll rarely have to think of them.

Anyway, everything is looking great. Keep plugging and when you get all the lights working please post a couple photos of it in the evening.

Thanks, Dan. As I was putting them in, I realized this is the first time I've planted flowers since I was a kid. It's hard on the back! I've got the pieces for a drip system sitting in a box right now, which will attach to the existing timer-controlled valve that used to irrigate the back yard. It should be pretty easy to install. But we'll see.

Love the gate. An idea to throw just to go around the wiring problems. If you mount a small 12VDC battery on the gate with a small solar panel you shouldn't have to worry about the wiring being in a mobile environment. I guess you could also do it with a 3V battery as well.

A 3V battery seems like the most straightforward way to do it. But wiring it into the larger system (there are going to be 'sconce' type candles on the pillars and a sort of candelabra thing on one wall) will allow me to run the whole setup off a motion detector or timer. I think subjecting a slender wire with 3V running through it should be acceptable, even with the movement at the hinge point.

Jack did you build the planters? my wife has been asking me to build her some. just wondering on the details.

They were as simple as construction gets. I used a length of 2x4 for the base, and used a table saw to angle one side in the course of making it narrower.

Then I used my go-to lumber selection for this project -- $2-per piece cedar fence pickets -- for the sides. I screwed lengths of cedar to each side of the 2x4, and used my miter saw to cut end pieces that matched the angle I'd ripped into the 2x4. I cut some extra pieces in the same shape to insert inside the trough to keep the shape of the whole thing more consistent, since the cedar is not consistently straight.

Here's a picture that shows the shape of the end caps and also a 2x4 with a line drawn on the side to show how I added an angle as I ran it through the table saw:

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The 2x4 I actually used was pressure-treated, and I used a spray on sealer for the edge I cut. I also made each planter water tight with roofing caulk and drilled drainage holes before I planted the flowers.
 

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:Hmmm...water tight and drilled holes.... ehm... hate to break it to you , but you cancelled the first one with the second :evil:

Sorry...couldn't resist :lol_hitti
 

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....As I was putting them in, I realized this is the first time I've planted flowers since I was a kid. It's hard on the back!

Man, you can say that again. I enjoy doing it but my back really feels it afterward.

"The only thing worse than getting old is the alternative!"



....Then I used my go-to lumber selection for this project -- $2-per piece cedar fence pickets -- for the sides.

Smart....and cheap! Which is always a good thing.:thumbup:
 
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That's a good point, Zeke. That's why I sealed where the boards came together. The drilled holes are over the gap between the deck and the wall.

Here's the arched church gate test-fitted and ready for a little more clean-up and then some primer.

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I'm going to fill the space between the pickets on the two side/framing sections -- just not sure how I want to do that yet.
 

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thanks for info about the planter boxes Jack.

That gate looks really slick! My wife has been asking that I build or buy one for the side of our house. Getting more ideas from you. lol :thumbup:
 

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Jack,

Another awesome project. I am lucky my wife is not a GJ member. My projects a minor in comparison and it takes me so much longer to get them done. The perfect symetry is admirable. I know that is not easy.

On a side note, the side gaps look slightly wider than the rails on the gate and I know you have little ones. Perhaps a peice of Plexi glass electrial ties on until they get a little older would be a good fix for safey sake until your sure the little guy can't get his head caught in there.

I know that when our kids were little I did that to ensure nobody fell through the railing in my own home.

Have a good weekend.

That's a good point, Zeke. That's why I sealed where the boards came together. The drilled holes are over the gap between the deck and the wall.

Here's the arched church gate test-fitted and ready for a little more clean-up and then some primer.

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I'm going to fill the space between the pickets on the two side/framing sections -- just not sure how I want to do that yet.
 
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Thanks. In most areas, I think the code is a 4" ball can not be passed through the pickets/balusters/whatever. I plan on filling in the side pieces (not the gate itself), but not with additional pickets. My current thinking is with some of the gray cedar, like the planter boxes.

The more I can obscure the view out to the driveway, the better -- since it will reduce the number of times my wife will see the Strong Hold cabinet that's sitting out there, as it has been for years, with no real progress being made on moving it. :)
 

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Thanks. In most areas, I think the code is a 4" ball can not be passed through the pickets/balusters/whatever. I plan on filling in the side pieces (not the gate itself), but not with additional pickets. My current thinking is with some of the gray cedar, like the planter boxes.

The more I can obscure the view out to the driveway, the better -- since it will reduce the number of times my wife will see the Strong Hold cabinet that's sitting out there, as it has been for years, with no real progress being made on moving it. :)

Perhaps perforated metal? That's what we did on our side gates and I've been very happy with it.
 

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How was that square tube rolled? Jig? I been thinkin something like that, along with porforated or expanded metal at moms house to keep the little dogs in the yard but allows the snow to blow thru.
 

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I'm going to fill the space between the pickets on the two side/framing sections -- just not sure how I want to do that yet.
I know you don't like scrolls, but some 1/4" square solid bar gently bent in the same radius as the inner arch and positioned from one post to the inside of the other with the 4" spacing would replicate your design. I can't post a drawing, so this pic is only about what I am thinking.

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Like a few of the simple arch in the far left and right panels stacked 3-4 high.

Then there's the treatment that this furniture represents:

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Now that I'm thinking about this, you could redo the 2 sides to each have their own gothic peak and put a candle post in each one.

Easy for me to make more work for you. ;)
 
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How was that square tube rolled? Jig? I been thinkin something like that, along with porforated or expanded metal at moms house to keep the little dogs in the yard but allows the snow to blow thru.
It was bent with a Harbor Freight tubing bender and some $39 dies that were widened out by Zeke on this board.

Here's the machine:

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Here's what it can do:

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I know you don't like scrolls, but some 1/4" square solid bar gently bent in the same radius as the inner arch and positioned from one post to the inside of the other with the 4" spacing would replicate your design. I can't post a drawing, so this pic is only about what I am thinking.

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Like a few of the simple arch in the far left and right panels stacked 3-4 high.

Then there's the treatment that this furniture represents:

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Now that I'm thinking about this, you could redo the 2 sides to each have their own gothic peak and put a candle post in each one.

Easy for me to make more work for you. ;)

Don't like scrolls? My front gate has a set:

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I think you've got a good idea, there. Much better than just another picket with a mismatched gap. But the new gate is already more decorative looking than the rest of the deck. If I fill the space with the painted cedar, my thinking has been that it will kind of disappear into the background, visually.

But then, I haven't worked out the final design for the big wall-spanning candelabra thing that's coming next. Depending on how it looks, I guess it might work to echo the design in those side panels, possibly. But I think I'll leave the little panels open until the other pieces are done, so I can see how the whole deal is looking.
 

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also need to design a latching system for the open side of the gate, you wouldn't want those little ones taking off when you blink. I sure you have found out by now they really can move that fast.:scared: The reason I mentioned designing is that Store Bought just isn't good enough for THIS garage. I am in awe:bowdown: of what you have been able to do with this space. thanks for sharing all these stolen ideas not you, us
 
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We've got a rain storm coming, so today I primed and painted the gate even though I haven't worked out the latch mechanism or the way I'm going to fill those side panels.

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Still have to patch and paint that wall behind it. But one thing at a time. Even if it is in the wrong sequence. :cool:

Where do I find the Balluster tops like that to fit 1x1 square tube, I think those are? Thats more what I was thinkin for my 36" wide, 48" tall Man gates.

I got that as a single piece from King Metals (they have locations in California, Texas and a few other places). I cut it in half and used it to top that gate -- I'm surprised that it ended up working as well as it did. I don't have a part number for it, I'm afraid. And while they've got a web site, it can be slow and a little overwhelming.
 

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even though I haven't worked out the latch mechanism or the way I'm going to fill those side panels.

Looking Great Jack.

As for your side panels, how about a piece of 1/8" or 3/16" plate cut to size then plasma or water jetted with a pattern that maybe incorporates the arches or other shapes on the deck to tie it all together? Not sure about prices in your neck of the woods but for something that size it may not be too cost prohibitive. It would lighten up the look, add some contrast but also solve your 4" safety issue. Just thinking out loud... :)
 
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It was bent with a Harbor Freight tubing bender and some $39 dies that were widened out by Zeke on this board.

Here's the machine:

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Here's what it can do:

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Wow, bends metal and makes one dollar bills:shocking: I'm not sure how the Fed's will feel about that:dunno: As always, nice work Jack. That awning is awesome!!
 
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That would be a lot of shoulder work for the sake of a single dollar. :)

The rain came last night (good news for the firefighters), so today I've been working on the eight sconces for the pillars. But I also finished the latch and test-fitted the panels I'm planning on putting into those end sections.

I adapted a standard slide bolt latch so that it hides behind the two perpendicular pieces of the fence portion. When it's in the latched-shut position, the U-shaped part of the bolt lines up with the vertical picket.

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This is what the whole thing looks like when it's locked, with the panel pieces placed in there as well:

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The walls on both sides of the gate still have to be patched and painted. But I can't do that in the rain...

So it's sconces instead:

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And a quick Test

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Look great....but I've GOTTA ask, where do those "candle holders" fall relative to an adult man's head? Have any exceptionally tall friends or family?
 

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As a new member, all I can say about your 12-gauge Garage, Jack, is...genuinely inspirational.
However, I'm not a person to be allowed in there, as I would soil it rotten.

Great stuff, friend.
 
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Thanks very much.

And Drew, it's soiled most of the time. But it cleans back up fast.

Look great....but I've GOTTA ask, where do those "candle holders" fall relative to an adult man's head? Have any exceptionally tall friends or family?

It would be hard to hit them since they're right along the walls. But I'm sure it will happen, some day.

Amazing garage and deck! Been following your build thread since I found this forum.
Do you have a plan to put drain holes in the candle holders to drain any rain water?

The plan is to plug the hole the wiring comes up through, since I don't want water running through the square tubing of the pergola itself. Then I'll drill a small drain hole. I like the concave shape of the holders, but it will collect some water.

Today I painted the freeze area -- where I filled in along my neighbor's side. This was partially because there was unshaded sunlight coming through this part of the roof, but mostly as a way to keep the noise of my kids on my side of the property line. The candelabra thing I've got in my head will eat up most of this wall.

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Here's an old photo to show what's changed. I'll miss the view of the trees. But the other benefits outweigh that.

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I think it looks a little more 'finished' with the space filled in. Less like 'there's a garage right next to the thing.'
 
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Is that frieze area arch shaped like the canopy? I can't tell from the photo if it's attached the canopy frame or to the garage. It does look better.

I'm looking forward to night time pics once you have the lighting figured out.
 
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Thanks.

The cedar pieces are attached to the arch on the canopy. They're attached to three new steel pieces welded to that end of the structure. This was one of those things that became a real headache because I'm working by myself. I had to raise each half up twice -- first to trace the shape of the arch's curve, then once it was cut I had to raise it again to fasten it into place.
 

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Jack, I've read through your thread many times. Such great work and attention to detail! I also love the car, I've always been obsessed with Porsches and would love to own one one day. I've got a 20x20 two car. Let me know if you have any recommendations:)
 

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wow.

saw the profile at jalopnik back when it first came out:
http://jalopnik.com/5978745/the-story-behind-the-perfect-porsche-garages-porsche

stumbled across TGJ a couple of weeks ago while researching compressors, decided this place earns it's google ranking, coming up on the first page of results for numerous different equipment searches, so I signed up and started checking in...

and today I find this amazing thread. very impressive! Thanks for documenting all of your hard work! feel like i'm hanging with celebrity now, lol.

:3gears:
 
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Thanks for the kind words, guys.

You have really created an awesome place to be outside at your house.

Question, are you going to put any sound/music system out there?
I put a pair of indoor/outdoor speakers on one wall already. As soon as I did, I kicked myself for not having done that sooner -- working with music is much better.

Where's the smoke from the fireplace gonna go? ;):D

I worried about that. The shade fabric is made of polyethylene, and my fear is that the heat from the fireplace would melt it. But I've tested it for hours at a time now with no effect. And the logs are fake -- fed by a gas line under the deck -- so there's no smoke.

But I still want to do some reading on carbon monoxide poisoning. It seems like it should be less dangerous than a grill. But who knows.
 
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Jack, I've read through your thread many times. Such great work and attention to detail! I also love the car, I've always been obsessed with Porsches and would love to own one one day. I've got a 20x20 two car. Let me know if you have any recommendations:)

My only recommendation is to get started. :rocker: You'll be glad you did.

wow.

saw the profile at jalopnik back when it first came out:
http://jalopnik.com/5978745/the-story-behind-the-perfect-porsche-garages-porsche

stumbled across TGJ a couple of weeks ago while researching compressors, decided this place earns it's google ranking, coming up on the first page of results for numerous different equipment searches, so I signed up and started checking in...

and today I find this amazing thread. very impressive! Thanks for documenting all of your hard work! feel like i'm hanging with celebrity now, lol.

:3gears:
I'm the opposite of a celebrity, but today was definitely an odd one. (See my post below.)

Ever thought of incorporating something like this into your gate?

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That's a cool idea. I have a spring-driven closer on a shelf in the garage. But this gate really doesn't need one, I don't think. For one thing, it swings both ways. But the kids go in and out through the doors from the house.

Jack

You made a great retreat for the family to get away from some of the suburban monotony.

Thank you.
 
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