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Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT The 12-Gauge Garage

Workspaces sized between 265 and 485 squarefeet.

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I don't contribute much on this site but I did some catching up on your thread the past couple days and a few things grabbed my attention.

Going back to CO detection; as mentioned CO is slightly lighter than air however it is so VERY close in density to air for all practical purposes we consider them the same.

This is important because air is constantly moving in a home even an airtight home and those currents can be affected by the simplest thing as a piece of furniture or someone walking down a hallway or in a stairway.

The point is, don't over think the strategic placement of the detectors, just get some! Place one at each level of the home that has sleeping quarters, and if you have them hard wired ensure that they have battery back up.

Also consider that the effects based on exposures are only guidelines and can differ greatly between individuals, with the old and young (including unborn) most susceptible.

Finally there was a reference to catalytic convertors. Please be aware that catalytic convertors are NOT a safeguard against CO poisoning.

I'm a Fire Fighter, HazMat Tech and Confined Space Rescuer and I simply follow the KISS formula in my own home!

Trailers - there have been lots of opinions and experience shared regarding construction and towing and I have some of my own but rather than share them I'm going to suggest forgetting about the trailer altogether!

First you have repeatedly mentioned your cost saving strategies with the car. Why throw that out the window?

I'd be surprised if you could put one together cheaper than you could buy one, especially used and ESPECIALLY considering all the alternative materials and construction you are proposing.

More to my point however is that now you will have a single purpose apparatus taking up space in your driveway that inevitably will be in the way and a nuisance more often than it will be used.

On top of that is the expense of time and energy spent researching, planning, ultimately building and then maintaining and towing it.

All this to have a tiny cocoon of a trailer that you can't function in and would be brutal to be stuck in on a rainy day, and offers no way of avoiding attracting rain/dirt/bugs with every in/out.

Get a tent.

Even the low end tents are incredibly well built and weather resistant. They can have separate 'rooms', for some level of privacy, they have vestibules to leave dirty shoes and wet jackets and dogs in. Great ventilation with the ability to enjoy that fresh air you've just driven 3 hours to get to.

For the ultimate in tent camping you can also grab a 'dining tent' which offers comfortable cooking and of course dining despite the elements or bugs.

More importantly you'll be getting the little guy a step closer to REAL outback camping which can be a life changing experience and an opportunity to experience our natural world as fewer and fewer people get to do as time marches on.

I get it, we are car guys and we love the build process but sometimes we need a kick in the *** in the form of an alternative view point.
 
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....or consider something with more functionality and resale value;

http://www.sylvansport.com

:)

Sometimes it's amazing how the more things change, the more they remain the same..

That Sylvan is an update knock off from the post war Aluminum Heilite trailers. The early ones used the bed of the trailer as a bed, (storage under that) and the tent swung out so you had an (approx) 8x6 tent on the ground plus the 4 ft bed (I've had one for near 30 years and am about to take it hunting again this year...)

They made an upgrade that like that sylvan used the bed for standing room and beds swung out both sides. canvas and aluminum tubes and no semi domes, but the basic underlying chassis...
 

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So I saw a black 911 with four tires on the roof heading southbound around Sacramento area last week or so...didn't happen to visit Thunder Hill did you Jack?
 
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Sometimes it's amazing how the more things change, the more they remain the same.

True of the garage, too. Here it is today. Eight years since I started the revamp.

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I haven't started on the trailer. I went in to do a volunteer project for my kids' school, and ended up staying for five weeks, working on a handful of fixes and improvements for their aging campus.

Don't have many pictures, but here's a cabinet I built for art supply storage under a staircase:

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I also learned how to mix and patch that soft rubber-granule stuff you see on playgrounds:

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The most time-intensive part was a 1900-sf shade structure (32'x60'). Here's the first third of it going up. Unfortunately, it hit a snag with the landlord and had to go into storage for a year before it can go back up again. It was fun working as a one-man crew raising this thing up:

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The most time-intensive part was a 1900-sf shade structure (32'x60'). Here's the first third of it going up. Unfortunately, it hit a snag with the landlord and had to go into storage for a year before it can go back up again. It was fun working as a one-man crew raising this thing up:

That is an impressive structure to build as a one man crew. Can you elaborate a bit more on the landlord issue? Does the school not own their building and land? Who would buy a school and rent it out, but that could be very lucrative if you charge by the kid. :lol_hitti
JB
 

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I thought those were older pics of your car, but than I saw your new license plate. Still looking good! Do you replace the decals every now and than? I know track abuse is hard on the decals near the fenders, but yours seem to be intact (at least from a distance).

Love to see you shave another second of your lap record and how you intent to do so. Keep those homemade mods coming!
 
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Jack, I'm not sure if you've mentioned this. What kinds of vises do you have? I recognize some Wiltons.

I've got three Wiltons. I fixed up four, and then sold one. I've definitely got one too many, now -- which isn't to say I don't use them all. But I could get by with two, I think.

I've got a wood vise sitting somewhere and the plan has been to swap it for one of the machinists vises. But that's been on the to-do list for awhile now and it hasn't happened yet. I'm not enough of a woodworker to really need a wood vise. But one day...

I thought those were older pics of your car, but than I saw your new license plate. Still looking good! Do you replace the decals every now and than? I know track abuse is hard on the decals near the fenders, but yours seem to be intact (at least from a distance).

Love to see you shave another second of your lap record and how you intent to do so. Keep those homemade mods coming!

I updated the back section of the decal (on the leading edge of the rear wheel flare) awhile back. That's where it gets the road damage, and it's pretty easy just to scissors-cut a new piece of decal and put it on. But it will get new decals when it gets new paint, which will come sooner or later.

Hey I like the new black plate.
Thanks. I feel a little like Jeff Lebowski saying it, but it kind of pulls the look together. :)
 
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No idea why, but my old Petrolicious video is featured today on CarBuzz.com. Between the two sites that "One Car To Do It All" is hosted on, the clip has amassed 847,000 (!?) views.

 

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Great work, Jack, all of it. Keep it up.

re your trailer desires I suggest you take a look thru the ExpeditionPortal forums. They have a large community of fabricators and customizers and a lot of expertise in custom built trailers of many varieties, very much in your mien of compact, multi-function, do-it-yourself. Great deal of re-purposing, remanufacturing, metal fabrication and above all the gathered experiences with all sorts of designs.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/forums/42-Expedition-Trailers
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/52549-Collection-of-Trailer-Builds

There are a lot of other subforums there, lot of expertise. You'd be more than welcome there, if you aren't there already.

Rich
 

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Thought you might find this interesting. I don't think I'd dive into a corner in this but red light to red light. :thumbup:
 

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Here's a surprise. Years ago, I saw this video online:

https://vimeo.com/100986587

Later, the artist in it contacted me and said he wanted to do a screen print based on my car. Today, I got to see some pictures of it:

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Very excited to see a real one of them hanging in my house. One more surprising thing by way of the internet.
 

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My congratulations. And I missed the video, finally heard the voice of the baby.
:rocker:

Interestingly this forum there. Magnus Walker and Nakai San :3gears:
 

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Here's a surprise. Years ago, I saw this video online:

https://vimeo.com/100986587

Later, the artist in it contacted me and said he wanted to do a screen print based on my car. Today, I got to see some pictures of it:

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Very excited to see a real one of them hanging in my house. One more surprising thing by way of the internet.
Jack

You should turn the screen print into T Shirts - we would all buy one- they may become collectable!
 

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I started a week ago at page one and went through in my "spare" time....

Thank God I'm here....

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In summary...having gone through this entire thread...looked at it, processed it...here on page 220, all I can say is....

....damn you Jack....

I have accumulated a series of questions and comments though....

1. I have not seen any pictures of the garage in the "deployed stage". I've seen one or two cabinets opened but, nothing else. It's like the Koenigsegg "Show Mode"...where is 12 gauge garages show mode? (see vid below...no embed feature here?)


2. The datalogging, tuft testing, DRS via miata motors, homemade aero....kudos man...that's gettin down and dirty. Not many people "go there". One overall comment I never saw made with your DRS, was just a simple coast down test. 100mph on your "test course", then coast down to 50mph and time it. Time it in each aerodynamic profile...simple validation and proof that it's costing you speed/power in the straights.

3. Magnus in the podcast....annoyed me...for several reasons. The pedestal America has placed this guy on is growing increasingly annoying. His warehouse is cool, his cars are "nice"...but this supreme authority has gone a bit far. I kind of felt he was invalidating your accomplishments by calling the GT3's driver into question. Of course you have an advantage, knowing every crevice of Willow, but let's take the vid for what its worth. End of day, running 1:26's, possibly 1:25's, when the GTR Nismo and C7Z's are putting down those times with Pobst driving...that's serious Magnus...wake up bro.

4. No one has made me want to use my arc/roll bender more than Jack Olsen and that damn patio...ughhhh.

5. Why the hell didn't you get video driving that Lemans Porsche...wTF!

6. Revs Museum in Naples, FL...you need to go there. Get the boy, pack the Porsche and do some father/son bonding to the opposite corner of America and back. (Just a suggestion...hehe.)

7. Calling that Porsche a "CO generator" really can get some LA environmentalist libs in a rage...better watch that google caching...lol.

8. You have a TIG...that happens to be my automotive specialty...if you ever need tips/help...feel free to post some test welds and I could guide you.


In real summary, several friends and I really admire what you're doing. Over the years, I've owned/built more cars than I can remember...many for others, quite a number for myself. I often think back to the days before the hobby became a business...when I was able to have that focus...it's something I miss. Seeing you continually develop that ONE piece...that car that becomes an extension of your person, something that you know as well as your own child...there is such value in that.

Over the years I feel like I've explored to find, or in other words determine, what I feel is the ultimate platform. I've built Japanese, german, and by my avatar, American. I have concluded that I don't think one platform can fulfill that entire glass for me, but I feel maybe three can. In that same sense though, you have the Jeep, the Porsche and the daily...I speak in the same sense of having that "trio".

At this stage the Z06 is one of the cars I've owned longer than any other...I've had it 4 years. I also have an E36 BMW M3, which I believe will by my "Olsen". I like the idea of expanding personally with a car. I've done that in many senses, but I've done it very rapidly, from 0 to 1000 in quick succession, in many ways with no pure enjoyment of the process. In many ways today, I envy the person who kept the car as a hobby...who retained that piece for themselves.

Anyway...you've done a lot with what you have...you've clearly gained many skills that's benefited not only the car, but your family as well. Good job man...seriously.
 
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RC000E, that's a great post -- and I want to write something back. But hold tight. I just checked in to post a recent garage-based project I did for my kids.

For the last week (and a day), I've been working on a playhouse for my two kids. The idea was to do a 'crooked house,' like you might see in a kids cartoon. Here's the play by play:

(Please let me know if these images work. My imageshack account is messed up, so I'm using Facebook image links here.)

The genesis of the whole project was to replace this slide, which was getting a little rotted from exposure to the elements. The first step was pretty easy. Max and I got some In-N-Out burgers and stuck four stakes in the ground where we wanted the corners to go. Then we used that tube you see and some concrete to make footings for the house to sit on.

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This is the base of the thing. It's made with pressure-treated lumber. The plywood on it got coated with Thompson's Water Seal on both sides and (especially) the edges. The first piece of good news was that the concrete footings came out perfectly level.

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Framing is strange when the walls are deliberately at an angle. And I don't know the first thing about framing. I'm relying on plywood gussets and deck screws (instead of nails) for rigidity.

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Here's the basic shape. It finally looks a little bit like a house. The fact that it's deliberately crooked might be lost on my neighbors -- they might simply be assuming I have no idea what I'm doing -- although they have all been very polite and encouraging about it so far.

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Once the frame was up, I had to get the wood for the walls and the roof. I loaded 10 4x8 sheets on top of the Jeep and used a ratcheting tie-down to keep the load from moving.

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Here you can see a test panel for the roof and the beginnings of the 'loft.'

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I needed one set of stairs for the loft and another set for the slide, but didn't want to give up floor space. So I turned the wall joists into ladder-type steps. The bar up above is an old broom handle -- a way to pull yourself up and over if you need a little help.

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My idea was to have the old slide come out of a 'dormer' type opening. I've never done anything like this before, so working out the angles for this type of thing was tricky.

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Figuring out how to cut the roof opening for the dormer was also a challenge. Days like these, you wish you could remember some grade-school math.

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I was surprised how sturdy it came out. I was able to use the dormer framing like a ladder to climb up to see if I could shake things by standing on the roof. I don't know if it makes a huge difference, structurally, but the deck screws seem to hold things more firmly than nails.

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All these weird angles produce some particularly useless scraps.

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Here's where I got on Wednesday. The plan is to cut the door and a pair of windows out of that right-facing side. Then another window around back, for the loft -- then the rest of the roof, then paint, then trim, then roofing...

...the list goes on.

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Short day on Thursday. But I got the dormer roof finished and the cut-outs made for what will become doors and windows. I've got to get the walls painted before I can put on the window, door and other trim. So that'll come next.

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And here it is finished. It ended up taking a day longer than the week I'd hoped for. But now it's got paint, windows, a (Dutch) door and an El-Nino-ready roof. The last work on the interior and maybe some landscaping are on the list for the holiday break. But the kids are finally able to play in the thing.

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Perfectly wonky.

I had a friend years ago that built kids furniture like that. Made / sold a lot of pieces as a sideline, while building sets for 'In Living Color'. He made some really cool crooked dressers, mistmatched knobs, bright primary colors. Like something out of Toon Town. I think he gave it up after feeding a couple fingers into his tablesaw. But he went on to do a lot of custom building work for amusement parks and the visitor center remodeling at NASA KSC
 
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