Model A Fan
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Re: Table-Saw Trouble: Let's Be Safe In 2016
Once a saw tastes blood, it prefers to cut nothing else. Careful.
Once a saw tastes blood, it prefers to cut nothing else. Careful.
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DonPowers
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Re: Table-Saw Trouble: Let's Be Safe In 2016
Great discussion on safety equipment. in addition to equipment mentioned by other posters to this thread, a sliding table for cross cuts will keep fingers away from the blade. This is not a good picture of mine but it has a long fence, an adjustable stop for doing repetitive cuts of the same length, a clamp for holding pieces and most importantly a handle to push with. Not shown is the piece that fits in the other miter slot to support the other end. This saw is also equipped with a retractable splitter and kick back preventer. It sits under the insert when not needed, lifts up for use and works with a zero clearance insert.
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Great discussion on safety equipment. in addition to equipment mentioned by other posters to this thread, a sliding table for cross cuts will keep fingers away from the blade. This is not a good picture of mine but it has a long fence, an adjustable stop for doing repetitive cuts of the same length, a clamp for holding pieces and most importantly a handle to push with. Not shown is the piece that fits in the other miter slot to support the other end. This saw is also equipped with a retractable splitter and kick back preventer. It sits under the insert when not needed, lifts up for use and works with a zero clearance insert.
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Zeke
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I spent the afternoon on the table saw and router table using keen awareness reconstituted by this thread. As Rlitman put it, this sums up all the injuries gone before.
And that brings up another point: while the Saw Stop is a fabulous invention, many other shop machines can do major harm. Why have that safety on just one? (I know, I hear the technology is being developed for other machines. But it's not as simple as instantly jamming a spinning blade with an aluminum chunk.)
I spent the afternoon on the table saw and router table using keen awareness reconstituted by this thread. As Rlitman put it, this sums up all the injuries gone before.
And that brings up another point: while the Saw Stop is a fabulous invention, many other shop machines can do major harm. Why have that safety on just one? (I know, I hear the technology is being developed for other machines. But it's not as simple as instantly jamming a spinning blade with an aluminum chunk.)
Coolabah
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I've always been , to tell the truth, pretty scared/respectful of drill presses and lathes ( don't laugh !) . My woodwork teacher in high school was missing a couple of fingers from being tangled up in a drill press , at least that was what he told us. My metalwork teacher was missing half a finger from a lathe. A couple of decades ago , an aquaintance of mine who was a surgeon and amateur woodworker lost a couple of fingers to a table saw, they were re-attached but he became a teacher rather than an operator after that.
Despite all this , I have become careless over the last few years - I don't know how many videos I've seen of woodworking etc where fingers are within a smidgin of some fast rotating cutting blade. Thank you for your post as it has upped my awareness, and hope as many others have said that you recover well.
To add my horror story to all the others- the last 3/8" of my ring finger was "severed" from the opposite side of the nail and held itself on pretty much almost only by the nail in a sporting accident 20 years ago, it re-attached and eventually had full finger tip feeling, maybe took 6-12 months in my case.
As Sarge used to say in Hill Street Blues : "Let's be careful out there"
I've always been , to tell the truth, pretty scared/respectful of drill presses and lathes ( don't laugh !) . My woodwork teacher in high school was missing a couple of fingers from being tangled up in a drill press , at least that was what he told us. My metalwork teacher was missing half a finger from a lathe. A couple of decades ago , an aquaintance of mine who was a surgeon and amateur woodworker lost a couple of fingers to a table saw, they were re-attached but he became a teacher rather than an operator after that.
Despite all this , I have become careless over the last few years - I don't know how many videos I've seen of woodworking etc where fingers are within a smidgin of some fast rotating cutting blade. Thank you for your post as it has upped my awareness, and hope as many others have said that you recover well.
To add my horror story to all the others- the last 3/8" of my ring finger was "severed" from the opposite side of the nail and held itself on pretty much almost only by the nail in a sporting accident 20 years ago, it re-attached and eventually had full finger tip feeling, maybe took 6-12 months in my case.
As Sarge used to say in Hill Street Blues : "Let's be careful out there"
Cyberbear
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Our collective sympathy goes out to you from a club of woodworkers that have "touched the blade," sometimes more than once. We all know any power tool is potentially dangerous, but this is the risk we have chosen in order to accomplish what we will. If a lesson, hard earned, is achieved, perhaps a safer future is in store.
Our collective sympathy goes out to you from a club of woodworkers that have "touched the blade," sometimes more than once. We all know any power tool is potentially dangerous, but this is the risk we have chosen in order to accomplish what we will. If a lesson, hard earned, is achieved, perhaps a safer future is in store.
Have you reconsidered?
https://www.hoosiertire.com/rrtire.htm *
What kind of tires did the Viper driver use? Also, those aero add-ons he has were designed by professionals and tested in a wind tunnel, I’m sure.
Two more ideas for less drag:
Remove exterior mirrors and replace with small video cameras?
Rear fenderwell spats? (Getting air to the brakes and then out of there is a concern, but probably doable with good venting. Louvered spats, that would be… interesting.
I realize that slopenose is out of the question. It’s not that kind of a car.
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Do u have a pic of the garage before you done anything to it mate
Bob Heine
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Jack,
Glad to see you dodged a bullet. The scar will be a reminder. And like you, I'm fortunate to have a hospital close by.
I'd add another safety tip -- never try to board a moving train...
...unless you really really want a fancy lumber pusher...
...and fire tong.
Jack,
Glad to see you dodged a bullet. The scar will be a reminder. And like you, I'm fortunate to have a hospital close by.
I'd add another safety tip -- never try to board a moving train...
...unless you really really want a fancy lumber pusher...
...and fire tong.
Re: Table-Saw Trouble: Let's Be Safe In 2016
Basically you did just about everything as wrong as could be done on a machine that can just barely be called a machine.
Index finger injuries ****! Really makes you realize how much you use them throughout the day.
Playhouse is awesome, My kids would love it too, Nice job.
Basically you did just about everything as wrong as could be done on a machine that can just barely be called a machine.
Index finger injuries ****! Really makes you realize how much you use them throughout the day.
Playhouse is awesome, My kids would love it too, Nice job.
BBChevro
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Haha, that's funny
......but on the other hand, that's not such a bad idea.
All the best for 2016 Jack.
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As I read this thread -- not having any real knowledge of table saw use -- I started to wonder, why are we standing down range from the blade? And do Japanese carpenters pull the wood into the blade from behind the machine?
I can see why all sorts of practical, primitive considerations long ago got us standing in front of The Blade that Throws Things, but maybe in the 21st century, we could rethink this whole thing.
(At this point, I'd love to hear some technophilic dipshit wander in here and say, "3-D printers yadda yadda yadda!" so we could all throw things at him, including severed fingerparts.)
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As I read this thread -- not having any real knowledge of table saw use -- I started to wonder, why are we standing down range from the blade? And do Japanese carpenters pull the wood into the blade from behind the machine?
I can see why all sorts of practical, primitive considerations long ago got us standing in front of The Blade that Throws Things, but maybe in the 21st century, we could rethink this whole thing.
(At this point, I'd love to hear some technophilic dipshit wander in here and say, "3-D printers yadda yadda yadda!" so we could all throw things at him, including severed fingerparts.)
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In ancient times,
Hundreds of years before the dawn of history
Lived a strange race of people, the Druids
No one knows who they were or what they were doing
But their legacy remains
Hewn into the living rock, of Stonehenge
Wait, I mean, before there was a 12-Gauge Garage thread, he had this thread:
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32636
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rlitman
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First, on a tabletop saw, it's often easy to stand to the side (when feeding shorter pieces of stock), but my arms do not allow that to be safely done on my cabinet saw at all.
Even so, standing to the side increases the chances of reaching over the blade (about the worst possible thing you can do), so while it gets you out of the kickback broken rib zone, it puts you into the "lefty" zone.
Second, you need to feed the work into (and past) the blade. You cannot feed it from behind, or the blade WILL grab the piece out of your hands, so your only option is to feed it from the front.
Third, if you wanted to "pull" the wood through your saw, you'd still need something to start the cut. i.e. you must push the wood into the blade, because you cannot pull the wood through the blade safely. You can't push the wood into the blade until it's far enough back to pull, and then walk around the saw...
Now in a two man operation ripping LONG stock, the first can feed the wood past the blade, where the second starts pulling (though I cringe at the thought, and present this only for hypothetical discussion), but that increases the risk of spearing the first man with a kickback, so the right way for a second person to help on a tablesaw, if for them to only pull the stock once it is completely past the blade. Of course a roller table works even better.
Yep. I worry more about tools with high rotating mass (lathe especially) that can pull you in, than sharp tools that just sever what they contact (saws).
The tip of my right index finger did this. Split horizontally down the middle about 1/2" back from the tip. Nail and some flesh on the top, bone and more flesh underneath. That was over 20 years ago. The skin just under the nail is a bit tougher than elsewhere, but otherwise there are no remaining signs of the damage.
First, on a tabletop saw, it's often easy to stand to the side (when feeding shorter pieces of stock), but my arms do not allow that to be safely done on my cabinet saw at all.
Even so, standing to the side increases the chances of reaching over the blade (about the worst possible thing you can do), so while it gets you out of the kickback broken rib zone, it puts you into the "lefty" zone.
Second, you need to feed the work into (and past) the blade. You cannot feed it from behind, or the blade WILL grab the piece out of your hands, so your only option is to feed it from the front.
Third, if you wanted to "pull" the wood through your saw, you'd still need something to start the cut. i.e. you must push the wood into the blade, because you cannot pull the wood through the blade safely. You can't push the wood into the blade until it's far enough back to pull, and then walk around the saw...
Now in a two man operation ripping LONG stock, the first can feed the wood past the blade, where the second starts pulling (though I cringe at the thought, and present this only for hypothetical discussion), but that increases the risk of spearing the first man with a kickback, so the right way for a second person to help on a tablesaw, if for them to only pull the stock once it is completely past the blade. Of course a roller table works even better.
Yep. I worry more about tools with high rotating mass (lathe especially) that can pull you in, than sharp tools that just sever what they contact (saws).
The tip of my right index finger did this. Split horizontally down the middle about 1/2" back from the tip. Nail and some flesh on the top, bone and more flesh underneath. That was over 20 years ago. The skin just under the nail is a bit tougher than elsewhere, but otherwise there are no remaining signs of the damage.
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Re: Table-Saw Trouble: Let's Be Safe In 2016
Considering the outcome, you were very lucky, you tempted to roll the dice with physics and only slightly lost.
Considering the outcome, you were very lucky, you tempted to roll the dice with physics and only slightly lost.
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Thanks mate
bcoke
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I too had a finger tip nipped off.....was sawn back on but it always happens when tired or "pushing oneself to finish" some thing...........My old dad gave me some good advice for keeping all your fingers .... "NEVER PUT YOUR FINGERS WHERE YOU WOULDN'T PUT YOUR *****" aka in harms way..........solid simple advice.........B Coke
I too had a finger tip nipped off.....was sawn back on but it always happens when tired or "pushing oneself to finish" some thing...........My old dad gave me some good advice for keeping all your fingers .... "NEVER PUT YOUR FINGERS WHERE YOU WOULDN'T PUT YOUR *****" aka in harms way..........solid simple advice.........B Coke
littleponderosa
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Damn. Glad to see you are ok. Too many sobering reminders of the effectiveness of these tools.
Bill
Damn. Glad to see you are ok. Too many sobering reminders of the effectiveness of these tools.
Bill
OccupantRJ
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Jack, Due to your recent experience, I want you to know that today I ripped some 12 foot long planks into 1-1/2" wide strips. As soon as I rolled the saw out and locked the casters, I thought about your incident and installed the removed splitter/anti-kickback/hinged safety guard onto my saw.
Jack, Due to your recent experience, I want you to know that today I ripped some 12 foot long planks into 1-1/2" wide strips. As soon as I rolled the saw out and locked the casters, I thought about your incident and installed the removed splitter/anti-kickback/hinged safety guard onto my saw.
Indyrider
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You are quite obviously a creative guy who has the ability to turn ideas into reality. Nice job. Does your shared occupation create competitive situations for you and your spouse? If so, she must have a "Killer" space of her own?
Outlawmws
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THIS^^^
And as has been said repeatedly, you were VERY lucky and we are all glad it was no worse.
I still have all my digits complete but sometimes I wonder why:
Left middle finger tip + Bicycle chain (the docs cleaned the areas pushed the tip back on and bandaged it in place, too much hamburger to use a single stitch I was 6 or 7... I even still have a finger nail - it grew back)
Left Index finger + hunting knife tendon half severed, two layer of 1 stitches and a 6 week finger splint to allow the tendon to heal (or risk snapping; 2-3 years getting full curl movement after those 6 weeks...)
left thumb and tip of right index finger, + plumbers tape, + a hand held power drill, (yes the drill bit caught, and yes the drill wrapped up my finger and thumb in plumbers tape...)
Seeing a pattern here yet? (aside from its always the left hand...)
In EVERY case I was doing something stupid, and in EVERY case I had that pre-incident thought that "this is stupid... OUCH!"
Almost every other accident where I was bit was the same... (I could go on for another page...)
I've been lucky like you were Jack, scars, a couple of strange fingernail junctions, and the only loss of feeling is exactly on the scars... (Even that severed tip has feeling...)
I tell myself to "learn from that mistake!" and I do. Then I go find a NEW way to... :tard:
Heal fast and heal well Jack!
(We almost were able to start calling you Nine Finger Jack! )
THIS^^^
And as has been said repeatedly, you were VERY lucky and we are all glad it was no worse.
I still have all my digits complete but sometimes I wonder why:
Left middle finger tip + Bicycle chain (the docs cleaned the areas pushed the tip back on and bandaged it in place, too much hamburger to use a single stitch I was 6 or 7... I even still have a finger nail - it grew back)
Left Index finger + hunting knife tendon half severed, two layer of 1 stitches and a 6 week finger splint to allow the tendon to heal (or risk snapping; 2-3 years getting full curl movement after those 6 weeks...)
left thumb and tip of right index finger, + plumbers tape, + a hand held power drill, (yes the drill bit caught, and yes the drill wrapped up my finger and thumb in plumbers tape...)
Seeing a pattern here yet? (aside from its always the left hand...)
In EVERY case I was doing something stupid, and in EVERY case I had that pre-incident thought that "this is stupid... OUCH!"
Almost every other accident where I was bit was the same... (I could go on for another page...)
I've been lucky like you were Jack, scars, a couple of strange fingernail junctions, and the only loss of feeling is exactly on the scars... (Even that severed tip has feeling...)
I tell myself to "learn from that mistake!" and I do. Then I go find a NEW way to... :tard:
Heal fast and heal well Jack!
(We almost were able to start calling you Nine Finger Jack!
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Jack,
I'm just a lurker that has been enjoying your garage, and other projects for some time now. I must say I'm glad your saw accident wasn't that bad. Table saws are a bit scary to me, I've seen and heard about accidents like yours and worse. I do use them now and then, but I'm very careful, and am not afraid to ask for inputs from someone more experienced (I figure if it looks iffy to me, there IS a safer way to do it... I just don't know what it is yet.)
Take care and I look forward to seeing future projects from the 12 Gauge Garage!
I'm just a lurker that has been enjoying your garage, and other projects for some time now. I must say I'm glad your saw accident wasn't that bad. Table saws are a bit scary to me, I've seen and heard about accidents like yours and worse. I do use them now and then, but I'm very careful, and am not afraid to ask for inputs from someone more experienced (I figure if it looks iffy to me, there IS a safer way to do it... I just don't know what it is yet.)
Take care and I look forward to seeing future projects from the 12 Gauge Garage!
Hemihead2
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Holy ****. Just got back from a holiday vacation to read about this whole episode. So glad for you, Jack, that it didn't have a worse outcome. I'm missing the first joint of my right index finger and a shaved tip of the right middle finger due to moving faster than I was thinking. Not from a saw, but sheer stupidity, nonetheless.
I don't have a table saw but have used my 10" radial arm saw for over 40 years. I have never not approached a job with it without being utterly convinced it was just poised to get a blood donation from me. So far, so good, but I know it's just biding its time.
The playhouse is magnificent, by the the way. Kudos to you for the design and execution.
I don't have a table saw but have used my 10" radial arm saw for over 40 years. I have never not approached a job with it without being utterly convinced it was just poised to get a blood donation from me. So far, so good, but I know it's just biding its time.
The playhouse is magnificent, by the the way. Kudos to you for the design and execution.
Grizz1963
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Weird how I missed all the action, been a bit distracted though.
Glad you got off lightly with a "slap on the finger tip" Jack.
I have no doubt that safety and sensible working is always top of mind for you. I have seen you work with your son.
Anyway, I guess this is a warning or reminder to all of us, I certainly have got away with it a few times in my life, but also whacked the tip of my left index finger off like scalping a boiled egg with an unprotected, handle-less angle grinder slipping through a window frame I was cutting, thankfully, I had masking tape and kitchen towel handy and managed to flip back the tip and strapped it down tight for three days before opening it. Still does not look perfect, but works just fine, finger nail bed never recovered completely, so this one always floats a bit freely.
Happy new year and many projects too.
Glad you got off lightly with a "slap on the finger tip" Jack.
I have no doubt that safety and sensible working is always top of mind for you. I have seen you work with your son.
Anyway, I guess this is a warning or reminder to all of us, I certainly have got away with it a few times in my life, but also whacked the tip of my left index finger off like scalping a boiled egg with an unprotected, handle-less angle grinder slipping through a window frame I was cutting, thankfully, I had masking tape and kitchen towel handy and managed to flip back the tip and strapped it down tight for three days before opening it. Still does not look perfect, but works just fine, finger nail bed never recovered completely, so this one always floats a bit freely.
Happy new year and many projects too.
Lyndon
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Jack
I agree with Grizz, I blinked and I missed it, then all of a sudden 3 pages have gone by....
Glad to hear all is OK, and that I'm sure you're already back writing, and working out ways to make the Porsche go even faster.
Oh, and like everyone else has already said - the playhouse is great work. Your kids have a great Dad.
Lyndon
At work in South West Sydney.....
I agree with Grizz, I blinked and I missed it, then all of a sudden 3 pages have gone by....
Glad to hear all is OK, and that I'm sure you're already back writing, and working out ways to make the Porsche go even faster.
Oh, and like everyone else has already said - the playhouse is great work. Your kids have a great Dad.
Lyndon
At work in South West Sydney.....
Stefanie
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Glad to hear you're ok Jack. Situations like this are why after hemming and hawing for a year, I finally sucked it up and bought a SawStop. I know people who work with power tools on a daily basis, and have for decades, and even they aren't immune to Murphy.
stillp
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Jack, pleased it wasn't more serious. You've already had some of the advice, but over here in the UK we don't use table saws without a crown guard. I once knew someone who had some kind of fit ripping timber on a table saw with the guard lifted. He fed his arm inti the saw, up to the elbow...
I bought a Kity 6-function combination machine a couple of decades ago. I've dislocated a thumb with a kickback on the spindle moulder, and when planing a bevel on the jointer I managed to plane the tip off my middle finger, only realising when I felt the vibration as the bone hit the cutter blades. Took many months to get the feeling back, but it did eventually. Hope yours is quicker.
Pete
I bought a Kity 6-function combination machine a couple of decades ago. I've dislocated a thumb with a kickback on the spindle moulder, and when planing a bevel on the jointer I managed to plane the tip off my middle finger, only realising when I felt the vibration as the bone hit the cutter blades. Took many months to get the feeling back, but it did eventually. Hope yours is quicker.
Pete
Scottwi
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Jack,
I am glad to hear it was not much worse. As I was reading I had feared it was going to be much worse.
Also thought I would take the time to finally thank you for introducing me to Garage Journal. I found it while searching on information about welding 12 gauge. I then spent my lunch hour for the next few days reading you thread. I love what you did with your shop and I also do DE events and enjoy reading all of your posts.
Here is to healing quickly!
Scott
I am glad to hear it was not much worse. As I was reading I had feared it was going to be much worse.
Also thought I would take the time to finally thank you for introducing me to Garage Journal. I found it while searching on information about welding 12 gauge. I then spent my lunch hour for the next few days reading you thread. I love what you did with your shop and I also do DE events and enjoy reading all of your posts.
Here is to healing quickly!
Scott
vintagespeed1956
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the house is great, as is this thread, thanks! heal fast.
Glad to hear it was not worse. I dread the day I wheel a tablesaw into the shop...but a SawStop is always an option.
I took the blessing of warmer weather to work on my JO inspired folding table. Space is a premium in my single, and my Miata was a tight fit otherwise.
I mounted to a 2x10 with the intention of creating a framed pegboard above the bench. That extra wiggle room should give me enough space to fold the bench and still hang tools.
I took the blessing of warmer weather to work on my JO inspired folding table. Space is a premium in my single, and my Miata was a tight fit otherwise.
I mounted to a 2x10 with the intention of creating a framed pegboard above the bench. That extra wiggle room should give me enough space to fold the bench and still hang tools.
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OP
That looks great!
The cross piece down below is something I've been planning to add to mine. It's a much smarter way to control the distance between the legs than the 'chocks' I used. (Still not sure why I thought that was a good idea.)
The cross piece down below is something I've been planning to add to mine. It's a much smarter way to control the distance between the legs than the 'chocks' I used. (Still not sure why I thought that was a good idea.)
marty_p
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Jack, I was disappointed to read about your unfortunate recent incident, but thankfully everything turned out OK.
I truly admire your kids' playhouse (a major memory builder there!) and I wish you many more great successes in 2016 in the garage, on the track, and now in your yard!
Jack, I was disappointed to read about your unfortunate recent incident, but thankfully everything turned out OK.
I truly admire your kids' playhouse (a major memory builder there!) and I wish you many more great successes in 2016 in the garage, on the track, and now in your yard!
shortykorte
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How's the movie going?
bad_idea
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Congrats on the feature in the Advanced Auto Speed Perks emails. I feel famous just being able to say I was there. I was there when you started this thread. You are becoming quite the celebrity.
cagullett1
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Just got an Advanced emailed telling me "we've found your dream garage", and I scroll down to find a pic of your garage, Jack. I got a good laugh! Glad that it gets the publicity it deserves, great job with everything!
OP
Thanks! When they asked for permission to use the pictures, I didn't know that it would amount to anything. I don't think we have Advance Auto stores in Los Angeles, so the name wasn't familiar. But I just looked at the web site visit counter, and it took quite a jump.
I don't get the newsletter, but here's what I was able to find on their website. Very nice of them.
I don't get the newsletter, but here's what I was able to find on their website. Very nice of them.
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Hi Jack, that is the one saw I used once in a while and it scared me a lot (for good reason). I am glad to hear that you still have all your fingers and you are recovering well.
Definitely a reminder to me how dangerous table saw are. My other problem is fatigue. When I get near the completion of a project, I often try to push Myself to finish and too fatigue to think about safety. Thank for sharing.
Definitely a reminder to me how dangerous table saw are. My other problem is fatigue. When I get near the completion of a project, I often try to push Myself to finish and too fatigue to think about safety. Thank for sharing.
cagullett1
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Also, another vote for grippers and zero clearance. I had a couple scary kickbacks that caused me to look into safer ways to use my table saw. My pair of grippers don't leave my tablesaw now. They are definitely worth trying.
OP
One Gripper is in hand (new, local pawn shop), another (second-hand ebay) is on the way. I've gotten more feeling back in my finger -- but there is still a long way to go.
Here's a quick and dirty project for the day -- a rack to hold bicycles with my Jeep. It should also work with the BMW when it's done. But here is the humble first picture of a no-dollar project from the scrap pile along the side of the house.
About 137,000 new visitors came to the 12-gaugegarage.com website because of the parts store mailing. It overloaded the site and shut it down for about 10 hours. Now it's back.
Here's a quick and dirty project for the day -- a rack to hold bicycles with my Jeep. It should also work with the BMW when it's done. But here is the humble first picture of a no-dollar project from the scrap pile along the side of the house.
About 137,000 new visitors came to the 12-gaugegarage.com website because of the parts store mailing. It overloaded the site and shut it down for about 10 hours. Now it's back.
marty_p
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WTG on your visitor counts, Jack! And I could think of worse problems to have than a slammed server.
Congrats on making the AAP store web site; they're pretty big here in the SE U.S.
OP
So here's more of my scrappy bike rack.
It can mount on either the front or the rear of the Jeep. Here I'm test-fitting my (Craiglist-bargain) bike on the back:
Next up I wire-wheeled it down and painted it black:
The lower leg fits into the trailer hitch on my BMW:
I made it so I can still open the trunk when it's on there:
Here it is with padding and tape and plastic caps on the ends of the square tubing:
It bolts into the same receivers I use for my 20' steel rack (front or rear). In the back the leg that would go into the BMW receiver comes in contact with the shield for the gas tank, which braces it pretty well:
It can mount on either the front or the rear of the Jeep. Here I'm test-fitting my (Craiglist-bargain) bike on the back:
Next up I wire-wheeled it down and painted it black:
The lower leg fits into the trailer hitch on my BMW:
I made it so I can still open the trunk when it's on there:
Here it is with padding and tape and plastic caps on the ends of the square tubing:
It bolts into the same receivers I use for my 20' steel rack (front or rear). In the back the leg that would go into the BMW receiver comes in contact with the shield for the gas tank, which braces it pretty well: