Outlawmws
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Whats more impressive i I didn't see Jack stop once in 90 min. to talk on the phone! (at least on camera)
Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT The 12-Gauge Garage
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Workspaces sized between 265 and 485 squarefeet.
ajohno
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Great job Jack. Good to see everything has its place.
ez-duzit
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Good shakedown cruise for the trailer.
While watching the 60 sec. clean up, one thing is missing - skylights. They will change your life. I had a garage with no windows & put in 3 skylights. Every time I entered the garage after that it was like theater - clouds parting, sun beaming, chorus of “Ahhhhh” - you know the sequence.
A few hundred bucks invested gets you a different / excellent effect each and every time you open the door.
* This post is not sponsored by Velux
A few hundred bucks invested gets you a different / excellent effect each and every time you open the door.
* This post is not sponsored by Velux
Outlawmws
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on the Skylights it possible. I put one on the north side of my shed roof when I built it, and WOW.Paul_VR6
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I am still in awe at getting the pool table and all those guitars into that little camper. 
shortykorte
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I am still in awe at getting the pool table and all those guitars into that little camper.
That’s fun right there. How did he do it?
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I am still in awe at getting the pool table and all those guitars into that little camper.
Went back one page. Looked for said pictures. Literally laughed out loud in the office.
Now everybody's looking at me like "This dude really needs this week to end".
Outlawmws
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stonesg
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Re: My Fiberglass Camper Restoration
I'm behind on catching up on what's going on at the 12 Ga. but I had to jump on you about this Jack....
You know damn well that the equipment doesn't make the photographer any more than the typewriter makes the writer....
You have a great eye and create art in several areas.
TG
I'm behind on catching up on what's going on at the 12 Ga. but I had to jump on you about this Jack....
You know damn well that the equipment doesn't make the photographer any more than the typewriter makes the writer....
You have a great eye and create art in several areas.
TG
kjdhawkhill
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Re: My Fiberglass Camper Restoration
Yeah, the camera may help, but those camping photos didn't turn out like GJ art because of the camera. Any eye for color, framing and a sense of scale carry most of Jack's images.
Yeah, the camera may help, but those camping photos didn't turn out like GJ art because of the camera. Any eye for color, framing and a sense of scale carry most of Jack's images.
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Six years into my deck and pergola -- what I've learned
In 2013, I decided to try building a 21' by 20' deck. I did some online research and pulled the trigger on over $3,000 worth of red Brazilian Cumaru hardwood.
I'd never built anything like this before. And I decided to cover it with a steel-and-shade-fabric pergola. In retrospect, I really didn't know what I was doing. But I was lucky. Six years later, it's still there, still flat, and still a very nice place to relax.
Today I stripped and re-stained the wood. Biggest lesson learned? You've got two options with Brazilian hardwoods. You can let them go gray, which is what the smart guys do. Or you can re-stain the thing every year or two from now until the end of time. Foolishly, I've opted for the 'end of time' option. So since I'm six full years into it, here's a recap of what I did back in 2013 and what I did today.
It all started with a bunch of wood (950 lineal feet at $3.29 per) getting unloaded into my driveway. That was followed by clearing out my postage stamp of a back yard.
For the next picture, I'll jump through a few weeks of hard work to the point where I had all the decking installed. I didn't end up with a single length of wood to spare, which was probably a bad idea. And I opted for a floating type of deck, which spared me a lot of digging and (surprisingly) has turned out better than I thought it would.
Then I covered all the wood up and went to work on this idea I had for a cover for the thing. I started with the top part of it, since I didn't have any ladders that went up to the full height I had in mind. When I was done with the top section, I had to figure out a way to raise the whole thing up so I could weld in the lower section in. I ended up making a kind of mast with a hand-cranked winch to slowly raise the thing 8 feet up into the air. The good news? It didn't fall on me.
Jumping ahead a whole bunch again, this is the finished deck. I stained the wood with Penofin, which came highly recommended. As it happens, I wouldn't recommend Penofin to anyone. At least, not in California. After the first rain, my wood got a black-ish overcast to it -- probably a mold or fungus growing in the stain. Over several years of stripping and re-coating the stuff, I finally gave up on Penofin and switched to TWP's 100-series stain. Whatever fungicide it's got works MUCH better on my local fungi/molds than Penofin's formula. Where the Penofin would start to look bad after about six months, the TWP lasted a little over two years.
But eventually, even the better coating went gray. It's not a terrible look. And if I let it go completely, or stripped away the stain and let the sun do its work, I'd probably get a familiar shade of gray and I'd never have to move all this furniture again. But I don't like the way that looks. And it was getting pretty gray when I took a look at it two days ago.
Yesterday, I mopped it with a solution of Oxalic acid and water. Today, I applied a new coat of TWP stain. The difference is pretty remarkable.
I also added succulents to the planter boxes I built for the thing. I've had no luck with a few different types of flowers and other plants on this deck. So these succulents are made of plastic. The good news is that nothing I can do will kill them, ever.
I finished the new stain at 10:30 this morning (it only takes a couple of hours), but didn't count on the sudden rainstorm we got at 2:30. Fortunately, the stuff had dried enough that it didn't cause any problems. I just mopped the water up with some towels, and this is how it looked with the furniture moved back.
And for some perspective on how long the deck has been in place. Here's my son when I initially built the thing and again this evening. He wouldn't agree to smile either time. And he was more helpful when he was four.
The furniture has held up pretty well, too. It gets all the weather, but a little less UV because of the shade fabric above it.
And here the thing is after sunset, tonight. I hardwired a bunch of flickering LED candles and plumbed a gas line for a fireplace.
Day or night, it's a pretty nice place to relax.
In 2013, I decided to try building a 21' by 20' deck. I did some online research and pulled the trigger on over $3,000 worth of red Brazilian Cumaru hardwood.
I'd never built anything like this before. And I decided to cover it with a steel-and-shade-fabric pergola. In retrospect, I really didn't know what I was doing. But I was lucky. Six years later, it's still there, still flat, and still a very nice place to relax.
Today I stripped and re-stained the wood. Biggest lesson learned? You've got two options with Brazilian hardwoods. You can let them go gray, which is what the smart guys do. Or you can re-stain the thing every year or two from now until the end of time. Foolishly, I've opted for the 'end of time' option. So since I'm six full years into it, here's a recap of what I did back in 2013 and what I did today.
It all started with a bunch of wood (950 lineal feet at $3.29 per) getting unloaded into my driveway. That was followed by clearing out my postage stamp of a back yard.
For the next picture, I'll jump through a few weeks of hard work to the point where I had all the decking installed. I didn't end up with a single length of wood to spare, which was probably a bad idea. And I opted for a floating type of deck, which spared me a lot of digging and (surprisingly) has turned out better than I thought it would.
Then I covered all the wood up and went to work on this idea I had for a cover for the thing. I started with the top part of it, since I didn't have any ladders that went up to the full height I had in mind. When I was done with the top section, I had to figure out a way to raise the whole thing up so I could weld in the lower section in. I ended up making a kind of mast with a hand-cranked winch to slowly raise the thing 8 feet up into the air. The good news? It didn't fall on me.
Jumping ahead a whole bunch again, this is the finished deck. I stained the wood with Penofin, which came highly recommended. As it happens, I wouldn't recommend Penofin to anyone. At least, not in California. After the first rain, my wood got a black-ish overcast to it -- probably a mold or fungus growing in the stain. Over several years of stripping and re-coating the stuff, I finally gave up on Penofin and switched to TWP's 100-series stain. Whatever fungicide it's got works MUCH better on my local fungi/molds than Penofin's formula. Where the Penofin would start to look bad after about six months, the TWP lasted a little over two years.
But eventually, even the better coating went gray. It's not a terrible look. And if I let it go completely, or stripped away the stain and let the sun do its work, I'd probably get a familiar shade of gray and I'd never have to move all this furniture again. But I don't like the way that looks. And it was getting pretty gray when I took a look at it two days ago.
Yesterday, I mopped it with a solution of Oxalic acid and water. Today, I applied a new coat of TWP stain. The difference is pretty remarkable.
I also added succulents to the planter boxes I built for the thing. I've had no luck with a few different types of flowers and other plants on this deck. So these succulents are made of plastic. The good news is that nothing I can do will kill them, ever.
I finished the new stain at 10:30 this morning (it only takes a couple of hours), but didn't count on the sudden rainstorm we got at 2:30. Fortunately, the stuff had dried enough that it didn't cause any problems. I just mopped the water up with some towels, and this is how it looked with the furniture moved back.
And for some perspective on how long the deck has been in place. Here's my son when I initially built the thing and again this evening. He wouldn't agree to smile either time. And he was more helpful when he was four.
The furniture has held up pretty well, too. It gets all the weather, but a little less UV because of the shade fabric above it.
And here the thing is after sunset, tonight. I hardwired a bunch of flickering LED candles and plumbed a gas line for a fireplace.
Day or night, it's a pretty nice place to relax.
Re: Six years into my deck and pergola -- what I've learned
Love it. I’d love to have my own. I wonder how the fabric does in the rain. Does the “roof” funnel rain water right at that exterior door? How has that done?
Love it. I’d love to have my own. I wonder how the fabric does in the rain. Does the “roof” funnel rain water right at that exterior door? How has that done?
Re: Six years into my deck and pergola -- what I've learned
A history lesson:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holystone
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Now I'm wondering if a Roomba could be modified to put down a coat.
A history lesson:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holystone
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Now I'm wondering if a Roomba could be modified to put down a coat.
kaymccampbell
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Re: Six years into my deck and pergola -- what I've learned
To go really off topic. I remember helping holystone the deck of the "Texas" in the early 80's to film the " Winds of War" in Bremerton. Some smart boy "lost" the sticks. So there we were, most all the extras, on our knees, scrubbin away.
To go really off topic. I remember helping holystone the deck of the "Texas" in the early 80's to film the " Winds of War" in Bremerton. Some smart boy "lost" the sticks. So there we were, most all the extras, on our knees, scrubbin away.
Re: Six years into my deck and pergola -- what I've learned
I remember seeing pictures --- forget how you floated? I did a ground level but still made a structure under out of PT lumber. Agree on the Penofin -- it does not hold up even with yearly applications. I gave up with my cedar and went with Zuri.
You were wise to invest in the hardwood upfront ... the pergola is extremely well done.
I remember seeing pictures --- forget how you floated? I did a ground level but still made a structure under out of PT lumber. Agree on the Penofin -- it does not hold up even with yearly applications. I gave up with my cedar and went with Zuri.
You were wise to invest in the hardwood upfront ... the pergola is extremely well done.
OP
Re: Six years into my deck and pergola -- what I've learned
Thanks.
It's easier to mop than to sand. But I'll bet the mixture of abrasives and chemicals does a job on those Teak decks.
I also used pressure-treated lumber underneath. Sitting on blocks, with plastic sheeting and a drainage line to keep water from doing any kind of a number down there. Here it is when I was getting it level, and then ready for the decking.
Thanks.
It's easier to mop than to sand. But I'll bet the mixture of abrasives and chemicals does a job on those Teak decks.
I also used pressure-treated lumber underneath. Sitting on blocks, with plastic sheeting and a drainage line to keep water from doing any kind of a number down there. Here it is when I was getting it level, and then ready for the decking.
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GH85Carrera
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Re: Six years into my deck and pergola -- what I've learned
Not surprised your back yard is almost as tricked out as your garage.
That back yead would not work in may states with freezes or snow loads, but who cares, you don't live there.
It looks like a lot of work, but you seem to thrive on it. Great job.
Not surprised your back yard is almost as tricked out as your garage.
That back yead would not work in may states with freezes or snow loads, but who cares, you don't live there.
It looks like a lot of work, but you seem to thrive on it. Great job.
Jeff95TA
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Re: Six years into my deck and pergola -- what I've learned
I remember your build, and it's awesome.
I feel your maintenance pain. I built a 45' x 40' ipe deck and used ipe oil. Looks like I can't go two years between cleaning/oiling.
I use a 70/30 mix of sodium percarbonate / sodium carbonate for cleaning, and like you, oxalic acid for brightening (same ingredients but much cheaper than store bought cleaner & brightener). A bristle brush on a pole wasn't applying enough pressure to fully clean it, so I had to get down and scrub directly with the brush. Not fun. Still need to clean the other side then apply the oil.
Please excuse the lack of trim around the pool. It's on the to-do list!
I remember your build, and it's awesome.
I feel your maintenance pain. I built a 45' x 40' ipe deck and used ipe oil. Looks like I can't go two years between cleaning/oiling.
I use a 70/30 mix of sodium percarbonate / sodium carbonate for cleaning, and like you, oxalic acid for brightening (same ingredients but much cheaper than store bought cleaner & brightener). A bristle brush on a pole wasn't applying enough pressure to fully clean it, so I had to get down and scrub directly with the brush. Not fun. Still need to clean the other side then apply the oil.
Please excuse the lack of trim around the pool. It's on the to-do list!
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Re: Six years into my deck and pergola -- what I've learned
That was a good idea .... Oh how things work when no freezings around.
That was a good idea .... Oh how things work when no freezings around.
Scotto
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Re: Six years into my deck and pergola -- what I've learned
Glad you're happy with the TWP! The 30 year old covered cedar deck on my house was in poor shape and I researched to death what to refinish it with. I ended up with TWP 1500 (100 isn't available in NJ, but it's supposed to perform similarly).
You know, you can just put on another coat of TWP - no need to strip. Is the Oxalic acid a stripper or "brightener"?
I used some stripper from Gemini (the company that makes TWP) and it worked pretty darn well to get up multiple layers of stain. I also sanded a lot of the surfaces because they were pretty messed up after 30+ years.
I just put down the TWP 2 weeks ago so we'll see how it holds up. The stripped and sanding was like 90% of the time so I'm not worried about putting additional coats down later.
I'll post a photo of the TWP when I get a chance.
Glad you're happy with the TWP! The 30 year old covered cedar deck on my house was in poor shape and I researched to death what to refinish it with. I ended up with TWP 1500 (100 isn't available in NJ, but it's supposed to perform similarly).
You know, you can just put on another coat of TWP - no need to strip. Is the Oxalic acid a stripper or "brightener"?
I used some stripper from Gemini (the company that makes TWP) and it worked pretty darn well to get up multiple layers of stain. I also sanded a lot of the surfaces because they were pretty messed up after 30+ years.
I just put down the TWP 2 weeks ago so we'll see how it holds up. The stripped and sanding was like 90% of the time so I'm not worried about putting additional coats down later.
I'll post a photo of the TWP when I get a chance.
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Bronson
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Re: Six years into my deck and pergola -- what I've learned
I remember that build Jack, I was really impressed with the outcome, well done!
I have a similar, smaller space that I converted to an outdoor living space. I went with stamped, colored concrete, and an overhead of honeysuckle on an arbor. Tiki torches and a small waterfall round it out.
Sadly, the drought and a idiot neighbor with Roundup drastically set back my years and years of honeysuckle growth.
I remember that build Jack, I was really impressed with the outcome, well done!
I have a similar, smaller space that I converted to an outdoor living space. I went with stamped, colored concrete, and an overhead of honeysuckle on an arbor. Tiki torches and a small waterfall round it out.
Sadly, the drought and a idiot neighbor with Roundup drastically set back my years and years of honeysuckle growth.
OP
Thanks!
Re: Six years into my deck and pergola -- what I've learned
I always loved what you did with that part of the house. It looks so cozy.
I always loved what you did with that part of the house. It looks so cozy.
OP
Wait. I just finished a bathroom. Seven days and $700.
It's not a room that sees much actual use, since it's the one for my outside office. But our ailing cat finally moved out of it, and I had to clean it up for a visit from my (allergic-to-the-cat) parents. It was super gross before, with a roof leak contributing to the general sense of squalor. Now it's got some crazy (maybe fashion-y?) patterns.
Before and after:
And after:
It's not a room that sees much actual use, since it's the one for my outside office. But our ailing cat finally moved out of it, and I had to clean it up for a visit from my (allergic-to-the-cat) parents. It was super gross before, with a roof leak contributing to the general sense of squalor. Now it's got some crazy (maybe fashion-y?) patterns.
Before and after:
And after:
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Outlawmws
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Nice Transition Jack! And it will be nicer for you when you use it!
rixtrix1
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Great job on the bathroom, in definitive J.O. style!
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langss
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That Bathroom look's great. On time and under budget. Got to love it.
ajohno
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Great job.
1Garageman
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Nice job Jack. I usually don't like that "subway tile", but it looks really good in that bathroom!
Hingebird
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Wow! Very Nice and at an unbeatable timeline and budget.
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RdSnake
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Jack,
Two quick questions about the 911:
1. Who do you recommend as far as machine work for the 911 engine around the LA area?
2. What size tires are you running?
Thanks,
Gil
Two quick questions about the 911:
1. Who do you recommend as far as machine work for the 911 engine around the LA area?
2. What size tires are you running?
Thanks,
Gil
OP
Thanks, guys.
I only worked with one machine shop, 9 years ago, and they kind of botched it. So I don't have a place to recommend.
The tires on my car are 255 and 315 on 17-inch wheels.
I only worked with one machine shop, 9 years ago, and they kind of botched it. So I don't have a place to recommend.
The tires on my car are 255 and 315 on 17-inch wheels.
RdSnake
Member
Thanks! Appreciate it.
Grizz1963
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Great result Jack.
dinkyrdj
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Try TLG Auto.