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dchawk81

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I had to pull it out for something not long ago but don't remember what. Probably the first and last time I'll ever use it.
 

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They are used in the Sprinter vans by Dodge and Mercedes for the battery post connections and the floorboard access panels. Those are the only two things that I remember ever using it for, but I only worked on a few before I retired.
 

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I use 9mm sockets pretty often at work, for 8-32 nuts I believe. But in actuality it's 11/32 sockets that is the correct size which I do not have at work.

Other than that I’ve never used any of my 9mms that I have at home & don't think I've ever actually encountered a 9mm.
 

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I’ve used mine a few times. Mainly on Isuzu and Suzuki. Also 11/32 is the same size which is the size for the side light nuts on my dad’s Freightliner. I think I’ve used 9 before on brake bleeders too.
 

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9 millimeter is the same a .250 inch.
11/32 is the same size
Sorry, I really hate to be that guy..... :D

.250" is 6.35mm

9mm is .354"

11/32" is .344"

I can tell 9mm is too big for 11/32" nuts but it's close enough & 8-32 fasteners are small so no worry of stripping the head/nut.

Just like 10mm is loose on 3/8" nuts (10-32) & 11mm is loose on 7/16" (1/4-20) but I use em anyway.

Uh oh, I can hear the socket police knocking on my door. :LOL:
 

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I am always wondering how people remember what size sockets they use/don't use when I can't even remember what I had for breakfast today ? :lol_hitti
I kinda sometimes wonder if I have sockets in my set that I've never taken out of their slots in 20 years.
 

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Sorry, I really hate to be that guy..... :D

.250" is 6.35mm

9mm is .354"

11/32" is .344"

I can tell 9mm is too big for 11/32" nuts but it's close enough & 8-32 fasteners are small so no worry of stripping the head/nut.

Just like 10mm is loose on 3/8" nuts (10-32) & 11mm is loose on 7/16" (1/4-20) but I use em anyway.

Uh oh, I can hear the socket police knocking on my door. :LOL:
I do not know the details. I did Google for some information and this got me in trouble.
Be "that guy." It is important every now and then. :unsure:
 
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I just want to say thank you to the OP for starting this thread. It seems like nobody wants to start a new thread anymore. :confused:
There has been many 9mm threads here over the years. Did we really need another one? Nope we don't, but whatever, doesn't bother me as it does others. And this won't be the last. :D
 

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I am always wondering how people remember what size sockets they use/don't use when I can't even remember what I had for breakfast today ? :lol_hitti
Well for me, I've run Japanese cars my entire adult life, and I only recently realized JIS size standards are 8-10-12-14-17-19-22-24-27

I'd watch youTube videos on how to do specific repair, takes detailed notes on the sizes of fasteners so I could bring the correct sockets and wrenches to a friend's house to do the repairs. Dont want to bring ALL of my stuff, I have too much.

And I realized that I could get away with just bringing 8-10-12-14 and so far I haven't done anything to my car outside of those four sizes. I just took the seat out and the seatbelt assembly off today, with a 14.

So if I ever ran into a fastener like 9mm or 11mm it would cause me to be really surprised, and I'd remember it.

To avoid the potential of getting screwed, I bought a Tekton 3/8" shallow socket full set 8mm to 19mm to keep in my car trunk 24/7. I have my nicer Snap On and Proto JIS specific tools that I bring with me as well. But I at least have the ability to run a shallow chrome socket on any other 9-11-13-15-16 size. If I had to go grab that socket strip from the trunk, it would be memorable for me.
 

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There has been many 9mm threads here over the years. Did we really need another one? No we don't, but whatever, doesn't bother me as it does others. And this won't be the last. :D
Maybe @Wamsutta should have titled it "The 9mm Socket (2024 Edition)" and each year we can have a new one that explores new trends in fastener designs.
 

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Old German vehicles used it. Had plenty of NSU motorcycles, some special fasteners in the engine (the Ultramax valve setup engines - Max, Supermax, Prinz, Maxi...) sometimes used a 9mm head. I think the cylinder head on the Maxi uses half-studs from the engine and half-studs from the head, and they are jointed in the centre of the cylinder. You reach in between the cooling fins with a 13 or 14mm wrench to tighten them down while preventing the special stud from spinning with a 9mm wrench. I think there's some stuff in the engine too. Very weird design. But at the time most didn't even use full size studs anyway. This setup allowed them to seal the top of the head easier, I guess. Also easier to mount the cam with all of that out of the way - after all, this was a time before CAD and an NSU Max engine is a work of beauty for a 50's design - OHC engine with a jointed gearbox, the NSU and Jawa 500 is what Honda copied later on after his European tour of the 50's (and the Supercub kind of copied the Guzzi Galetto, with a horizontal four stroke engine, leg shields and full size wheels and motorcycle handling on a scooter).

Ultramax camshaft drive is also ultra cool. Like a locomotive. No chain, no belt, no gears... No rattle. But assembly is hard and tolerances need to be tight. Probably more losses than a chain?

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Honda motorcycle (smaller) engine rocker adjustment is a 9mm. Typically only requires a combo wrench, but sometimes is tight enough to warrant a socket to break it loose, before switching back to the closed end wrench and the square head specialty tool to turn it.

(file photo...never use a pair of pliers for this, lol)





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Pliers are probably to hold the square... Most have the special wrench in the bike toolkit but this is often done with pliers just to prevent it from spinning while the nut is tightened.
 

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Years ago ,I left a NSU max on a junkpile,when I salvaged a busted Triumph TLS front wheel from the heap .........yeah ,I know now I shoulda salvaged it.
 

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To be fair, taking the engine apart on those can be a daunting task. Or the whole bike. So many hard to access fasteners for a bike of that age. Not to mention the NSU Prima scooters. Sometimes I really wonder how scratched they came out of the factory cause I doubt all of the parts just fit together even when brand new. Modern restorations of vintage bikes often end up going further than the original quality...
 

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Many years ago I wrapped my 1/4" 9mm socket with a piece of velcro (the soft fuzzy side) to make it easier to turn socket by hand. I remember using it often enough where that made sense but can't for the life of me recall what I used it for. Probably for the back of a stereo strap or something like that up behind a dashboard in a hard access point. The velcro is still on that socket to this day. It's the only socket I've ever wrapped like that.
 

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I used it a couple months ago servicing the chip conveyor belt on a lathe. It stuck in my head because it was the first time I'd ever used that size.
 

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Brake bleeders on older European cars. For me, the 9mm is important enough to be "Snap-On or bust".

While we're on weird sizes, didja know there are metric hose clamps? Yup. 7mm or 6mm hex on the screw instead of the 1/4" for SAE hose clamps.

-Ryan
 
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