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If this is in the wrong section eye apologize. Thinking this post can help others also with info.

So my job many times requires me to be in odd positions and looking- working in areas of little room. For example yesterday I was having to work into a cavity about 7/8" wide looking into an area from about 1 1/2 to 12 inches inboard. Needing to see right in close fiddling about, etc..
With being out of shape ,with having to use reading glasses , having a headset magnifier and having to contort my body around to get hands - tools in positions. Over the course of several hours I was spent.
Having a Binocular would have saved me great pains not to mention being able to see what I was doing better. There in-lies the issue . I needed to see this item but could not get the headset close enough with it being down inside the opening.
Have looked into this a little in past but was a gasp at the prices, they were great quality though.

So cheap import to rescue??? Saw this and was wondering if anyone has experienced with these. I dont have several hundred to spend. Plus they may get damaged at work.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009WJS46W/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Sorry for wordy post . Thank you to all.
Luke
 
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Nice. I've seen surgeons and dentists have those 'built into' the lenses of their glasses. This seems like a nice option attaching to whichever glasses you want.

Kev
 

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Luke I know exactly where you are coming from on this, I can see where a set of those would come in very handy for me as well.
 

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Feel your pain on this Luke, many times I could have used something like this. If you do proceed to make the purchase, please let us all know how they work out.
 

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They look like they have a few adjustments so I hope they adjust out from centre like binoculars do so they fit all types of people (some with eyes close together and some with eyes wide apart). I use the safety glasses with the little section cut into them to give slight magnification in the lower 1/3 area like bifocal glasses. They only cost $3 - $4 and come in different strengths. If you wear bifocals and are used to looking downward for close-up you can wear them all the time as safety glasses so you always have them handy.
 

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They look like they have a few adjustments so I hope they adjust out from centre like binoculars do so they fit all types of people (some with eyes close together and some with eyes wide apart). I use the safety glasses with the little section cut into them to give slight magnification in the lower 1/3 area like bifocal glasses. They only cost $3 - $4 and come in different strengths. If you wear bifocals and are used to looking downward for close-up you can wear them all the time as safety glasses so you always have them handy.

I have a pair of those and find that unless you are at the sweet-spot the mag lens is just blurry.

I've tried a lot of things since my eyes started going bad. :( I find that a LOT more light helps - as do 2.0-2.5X glasses. I have about 5 pairs of cheap ones and keep a couple pairs in the shop.
 

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Yep, they are pretty close up. Anytime you use optics to magnify an image (telephoto effect) you will get a shallow depth of field or area that is in focus. A wide angle does the opposite, it increases the depth of field but that is no good for us here because it makes everything smaller and brings more into view. The OP needs to view detail from 1.5" to 12" so the only way to do that is to add tons of light which will allow your pupils to get really small. When this happens you get greater depth of field just like when you stop down the aperture of a camera lens. Unfortunately this situation is next to impossible to achieve and you will need a focusable lens to allow you to rack focus from 1.5 " to 12" selectively. Those dentist's lenses probably can do that and you can also move your head closer, in and out to observe the different distances.

The OP has to view this through a 7/8" opening too. From 100' away everything from 1.5" to 12" will be in focus but you will be so far away it will be mighty small. If you bring your eye a few inches away from the fore ground area (1.5") you will be hard pressed to see detail in focus at the 12" mark with out refocusing.

At any rate lots of light is key and as soft a light as possible is best in a work environment.
 

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I have a similar but opposite problem with my eyes, I'm short sighted. I can see clearly up to 6" in front of my nose and then it gets quickly bad. I have tried lenses that fit inside my welding mask and that works good as long as you are at the same distance all the time, not so good when changing positions. I then got bifocals but had the lenses flipped so that the close up view is at the top of the lenses. This works better but still not perfect as I have the same problem as the OP in that when I have to focus at a spot in a narrow, tight place it's hard to get my eyeglasses into the right position to see what I need. I need to invent a periscope for glasses.

Richard
 

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I picked up three different types of loupes from ebay for $2 to $5 each shipped, POS, but work "ok". Do a great job of letting you find out which kind you like.

OTOH I intend to spend serious cash on a set of premium safety glasses, the brand the military likes so much, with the Rx set specifically for moderately close work. Add a decent headlight and you should be golden.

Not long I bet it gets common to have a couple camera's, like on wrists or mag holders and work looking at a small screen.
 

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If this is in the wrong section eye apologize. Thinking this post can help others also with info.

So my job many times requires me to be in odd positions and looking- working in areas of little room. For example yesterday I was having to work into a cavity about 7/8" wide looking into an area from about 1 1/2 to 12 inches inboard. Needing to see right in close fiddling about, etc..
With being out of shape ,with having to use reading glasses , having a headset magnifier and having to contort my body around to get hands - tools in positions. Over the course of several hours I was spent.
Having a Binocular would have saved me great pains not to mention being able to see what I was doing better. There in-lies the issue . I needed to see this item but could not get the headset close enough with it being down inside the opening.
Have looked into this a little in past but was a gasp at the prices, they were great quality though.

So cheap import to rescue??? Saw this and was wondering if anyone has experienced with these. I dont have several hundred to spend. Plus they may get damaged at work.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009WJS46W/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Sorry for wordy post . Thank you to all.
Luke

I would do it a different way but yes these will work. Don't know if they'll last though.

I could do it a couple of different ways but cost would be under 10 bucks. Cheap dollar store clear sunglasses, eyeglasses, or safety glasses (something with a thick squared frame), couple of hinges, couple of magnifying glasses, something to stop the hinges up top. Low to no risk in that, would look stupid though. I price a lot of things out over time.:bounce:
 

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I have three sets of "reading glasses"

First pair used the most: 1.25 for computer work focal distance about 20" to 3 maybe four foot.

Second pair used for reading books; 2.25 focal distance about 10-12"

third pair is 3.5X and for very close work. I rarely actually use them, but they are there when I do...

I didn't need glasses at all until after 45. and I could focus any distance to about 3" from my eyes in my prime. Had my vision checked in my early 20's and the doc couldn't believe it. actually asked "why did you even come in here" but I was ding tons of really close work at the time and the strain was noticeable, if done all day. he recommended very light readers, just to reduced the strain, but shortly thereafter I quit doing the close work for long hours...

I hate needing glasses...
 

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I use bi-focal +1 safety glasses I got off ebay. I see they have them in up to +2.5. Would something like that help in this instance?
 

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BTW, I bought several magnifying glasses from HF.
Junk. returned the next day.
Lens was wavy, couldn't see anything clear
 
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I hate needing glasses...

Me too...

This is about eyes, but not about the OP...

It would seem that I have come down with a case of the SHINGLES!!! All over my head, and in my right eye...This stuff really, really hurts...

I asked the Doctor if I was going to loose my eyesight in the right eye, and he said, "I won't say no, but I will say that it's not likely..." That's Doctor speak for "maybe"...

That scared the el crapola out of me...

Advise from an old man-----GET THE SHINGLES VACCINE INJECTION!!!

End of rant...
 

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I got a cheater lens for my welding helmet and think its the greatest thing ever! The bifocal line on safety glasses have a weird effect on me. Does anybody have full lens maginfying safety glasses in clear or tinted ?
 
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Mornin folks:
Say thanks for the responses, sorry I can see that did not explain myself well, let me add.
Doing the same work I did 30 years ago , have first hand account of my bodies demise. This would not have been any big deal at one time.

What I need is to magnify an object ( like using a loupe or head gear for something you can get right at your face) but to do this at arms length.
These show a 16 1/2 inch focal length.
Could not get a loupe down to object and also needed to shift into different areas quickly.
I had gobs of light from fiber optics. This was not an issue and you are correct sir lots of light helps.:thumbup:

I am most likely going to try these as I have no choice.. I will definitely do a write up. Sure there's lots of bruddas in the same situation.

thank you
Luke
 
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Here are some other options:

1. Full Mag Safety Glasses. (1.25 to 3.0). They're great for everyday work. These are full lens magnifying glasses vs. bifocals which I can't stand.
I've used these for years and love them. Make sure you get the "classics". They're cheap enough that you can get several different powers/focal lengths.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0088HPB7O/?tag=atomicindus08-20

21pzgK5qVRL.jpg


2. The next step is high mag/full lens reading glasses. They go up to 6.0. You won't find them in safety lens. They're for very close up work.

3. The next option is an Donegan Optivisor. (don't buy the cheapies from China - they're awfull). They go up to about 10X. Make sure you get the glass lens version. Mount a Zebralight on the brim.
magnivisorzebra002.jpg


4. Carl Zeiss Spectacles - 10" working distance!! Only a mere $600.
129.700
 
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I've tried a lot of things since my eyes started going bad. :( I find that a LOT more light helps - as do 2.0-2.5X glasses. I have about 5 pairs of cheap ones and keep a couple pairs in the shop.

Same here. I finally tracked down some 2.0x safety glasses where the entire lens is magnified, not just a little area in the bottom front.

Having near vision start to evaporate really *****. It's been nice sliding into old age without glasses, unlike a lot of people, but the piper is finally being paid. It gets yet more complicated when you have reading glasses, shop glasses, glasses for reading workstation screens, and glasses for music gigs...all the situations are different enough to require different specs. My next step is to find orange-framed glasses so I can find them in a horn case.
 

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Here are some other options:

1. Full Mag Safety Glasses. (1.25 to 3.0). They're great for everyday work. These are full lens magnifying glasses vs. bifocals which I can't stand.
I've used these for years and love them. Make sure you get the "classics". They're cheap enough that you can get several different powers/focal lengths.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0088HPB7O/?tag=atomicindus08-20

21pzgK5qVRL.jpg


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Good call. I bought a pair of these last time:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000Q7UYCQ/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Although I can't say that either solution is particularly stylish.
 

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This little guy is really help full for me when working in tight spots. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-Tek4-Digital-Inspection-Scope-RP4206/202223756# The video cable is 3ft long and is invaluable at finding hidden fasteners.
I would only recomend this for the purpose of magnifying your work as you described though. This unit wont fit down a spark plug hole so its not much good for engine work

This one has some better reviews as well as a larger screen. http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-Micro-CA-100-Inspection-Camera-36738/202810435?MERCH=REC-_-product-1-_-202223756-_-202810435-_-N#specificationsThey are quite a bit more than a pair of glasses but after you finally have one you will wonder why you didn't try it sooner.
 

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Hands down what works best is an apprentice, but good to see all the options explored.

One issue with a lot of the close up work magnification systems is that they are NOT designed for other than desk or comfortable normal position use.
 

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Me too...

This is about eyes, but not about the OP...

It would seem that I have come down with a case of the SHINGLES!!! All over my head, and in my right eye...This stuff really, really hurts...

I asked the Doctor if I was going to loose my eyesight in the right eye, and he said, "I won't say no, but I will say that it's not likely..." That's Doctor speak for "maybe"...

That scared the el crapola out of me...

Advise from an old man-----GET THE SHINGLES VACCINE INJECTION!!!

End of rant...

:scared:

Sorry to hear that. I know it can be bad, but that seems the worst!

The vaccine is only effective in 33% of test subjects, but I guess its still better than nothing. I've been debating getting it.
 

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I have a pair of those and find that unless you are at the sweet-spot the mag lens is just blurry.

I've tried a lot of things since my eyes started going bad. :( I find that a LOT more light helps - as do 2.0-2.5X glasses. I have about 5 pairs of cheap ones and keep a couple pairs in the shop.

Costco - 3 pairs for $17. I have them stashed in every bathroom.

x2 (or more) on the light. For a while I did not need glasses if I had the light.
 

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"Eye" also have noticed that my arms are getting too short as I get older... :(

I have several sets of the cheap magnifiers in my toolbox. I also have a couple of sets of the bifocal safety glasses from MSC. I find that the magnifier section in those is too small and too low, unfortunately.
 

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Here are some other options:

1. Full Mag Safety Glasses. (1.25 to 3.0). They're great for everyday work. These are full lens magnifying glasses vs. bifocals which I can't stand.
I've used these for years and love them. Make sure you get the "classics". They're cheap enough that you can get several different powers/focal lengths.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0088HPB7O/?tag=atomicindus08-20

21pzgK5qVRL.jpg


2. The next step is high mag/full lens reading glasses. They go up to 6.0. You won't find them in safety lens. They're for very close up work.

3. The next option is an Donegan Optivisor. (don't buy the cheapies from China - they're awfull). They go up to about 10X. Make sure you get the glass lens version. Mount a Zebralight on the brim.
magnivisorzebra002.jpg


4. Carl Zeiss Spectacles - 10" working distance!! Only a mere $600.
129.700

What Zebralight model is that? And what is that mount it fits in?
 

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Me too...

This is about eyes, but not about the OP...

It would seem that I have come down with a case of the SHINGLES!!! All over my head, and in my right eye...This stuff really, really hurts...

I asked the Doctor if I was going to loose my eyesight in the right eye, and he said, "I won't say no, but I will say that it's not likely..." That's Doctor speak for "maybe"...

That scared the el crapola out of me...

Advise from an old man-----GET THE SHINGLES VACCINE INJECTION!!!

End of rant...

I just got my shingles shot the other day from Sam's Club. Up until then, I was having trouble finding someplace in my area to get it. I think the statistic that I read said that one in four will get shingles. The vaccine was only developed in the last few years, according the pharmacist at Sam's.
 

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Beware: I got the vaccine and promptly got shingles. That is one of the possible outcomes, apparently, according to the doc (after the fact). YMMV
 

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What Zebralight model is that? And what is that mount it fits in?

It's an H52FW. (Neutral light/floody). The mount is what they include for the headband but I attached it to the Optivisor brim instead.

There are LED attachments for Optivisors but they're absolutely terrible. (based on very primitive LED technology). The Zebralight is 100X better.
 

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It's an H52FW. (Neutral light/floody). The mount is what they include for the headband but I attached it to the Optivisor brim instead.

There are LED attachments for Optivisors but they're absolutely terrible. (based on very primitive LED technology). The Zebralight is 100X better.

Thank you very much.
 

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Beware: I got the vaccine and promptly got shingles. That is one of the possible outcomes, apparently, according to the doc (after the fact). YMMV

"In a clinical trial involving more than 38,000 adults 60 years of age or older, the vaccine reduced the overall incidence of shingles by 51% and the incidence of PHN by 67%. The efficacy of the vaccine in preventing shingles was higher in the younger age group (60-69 years; vaccine efficacy was 64%) than in the older age group (older than 70 years; vaccine efficacy was 38%)."

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/shingles/hcp-vaccination.htm

According to this reference, the vaccine is not very effective, but it would be rare for it to cause an attack of shingles.
 
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