The Best Light Fixture Ever!

[GrantOpus]

Yet another order that’s is backordered. Has anyone ordered from lightup.com and actually received an order?!?



Yet they will still let you order qty 29 of the 5000K this morning.

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[Stevenanto]

Hi there,

I am starting my 14 1/2 foot by 37 foot garage with cathedral ceilings. I wanted to know what you would recommend for a garage my size. The garage will be mainly to store one car and sometimes two cars, it will also serve as a workshop (wood) and a place for me to change my tires and do basic mechanic work.

thanks

 

[tedo2007]

Platonic Solid

24x24x9 foot ceilings, typical roof tin ceiling white, with osb walls painted a very light gray or white, two car garage, will be mainly wrenching with no need for specific lighting more so a well lit entire shop.

Would like LED for energy saving, i see the maxlite 48 and the gll lights, is that my best option?

Thanks

 

[Arrington]

I am in the process building a 40x40x10 shop that will be just used to store some of my vehicles and old signs. I am wanting to put 4ft led 2 light fixtures up. Probably 8 fixtures. So everything will be new. What’s the best bang for the buck complete fixture and light setup. Any links provided would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Krang]

I’ve certainly drank the coolaid on LED lighting. It’s so compact you can do really neat things with where it’s placed too. Once I can post pictures I will show some ideas!


Actually, seems the time is now!

$4 Lowe’s globe LED fixture with the globe removed, main source of light for the shop.




In the midst of a big RE-organization here.. the under-shelf lighting on the left illuminates a long work table. I disassembled a 4’ LED fixture, removed the LED strips and ballasts, and reworked it to fit up inside the 2x4 shelf - plenty of light and headroom.

 

[Platonic Solid]

I am in the process building a 40x40x10 shop that will be just used to store some of my vehicles and old signs. I am wanting to put 4ft led 2 light fixtures up. Probably 8 fixtures. So everything will be new. What’s the best bang for the buck complete fixture and light setup. Any links provided would be greatly appreciated.

I assume you've looked at post 1 of this thread.

For surface mounting - Maxlite Housing $15.00 (link)

With 2 tubes per housing - GLLUSA $8.99 (link)

Total = $33 - 7% discount at checkout (GARAGEJOURNAL) = $30.69 per complete fixture.

 

[Arrington]

Are the led no bulb but led strip style not any good?

 

[Platonic Solid]

Are the led no bulb but led strip style not any good?

In the long run 2 lamp strip lights with replaceable bulbs is the lower cost option for regularly used spaces compared to the $20 +/- integrated LED shop lights. If you already have convenient outlets for the shop lights then replacing them every ~3 years (depending on hours of use) may not be that big a deal. Either way I would avoid products that are not UL, ETL or CSA Listed.

 

[Schu338]

Does anyone have an engineering drawing of the Maxlite 2 lamp strip fixture? Looking for knockout locations so I can pre-wire before sheetrock.

thank you

 

[Platonic Solid]

Schu338 - No drawing, but my pictorial review of the Maxlite housing (link) might help.

 

[Schu338]

Schu338 - No drawing, but my pictorial review of the Maxlite housing (link) might help.

that works, thank you!

 

[GrantOpus]

Correct. I just ordered 10 of them with the 15% off (Code is PANELSANDTUBES) because it expires today. Hopefully they are a good replacement for the ones that they discontinued. Still need to figure out which fixture to get:



MX464A-LT4X2 (has opal lens)

MX452A-LT4X2 (no lens)

Maxlite LSS2XT8USE4803 (no lens)

Did you ever get your tubes? I am still showing on backorder even though CS said they would be in this week.


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[Royalwapiti]

I was going to read this thread, but got dizzy looking at the first post...

 

[CleanSC]

I was going to read this thread, but got dizzy looking at the first post...

And yet that's the most important one.

Take a Dramamine and push thru it. It's worth it.

 

[Schu338]

Any advantages to using a wrap-around style LED fixture vs a strip type? Less glare / better distribution maybe? Any loss of light? How do the lenses hold up in a garage environment ? bets fixture out there that can use direct-wire LED tubes?

 

[Platonic Solid]

Schu338 - 4ft retrofit tube wrap fixture

Pro - Aesthetics, extra protection from damage on low ceilings, may create wider light distribution which may or may not be desirable (pro on low ceilings - con on high ceilings)

Con - ~10% light loss, additional cost

Integral LED wrap fixtures (those that do not use 4ft retrofit bulbs) generally have higher lumens per watt than retrofit style fixtures and are typically dimmable unlike most retrofit bulbs.

 

[pbon]

I bought 30 of the James 4’ LED wraps that Platonic recommended. I have installed 20 so far and like them. Well made. Mine are on dimmers. $42 each so more expensive than bare tube fixtures and tubes.

 

[bullnerd]

Somewhere in this thread I posted a little vid showing how loose the endplates are on the led fixtures listed way back at the beginning. I dont have the model number on me, but I will post it if needed. I think they are the ones from Bees lighting.

So this is just an update on what I did to make it a little more solid.

I jammed a tek screw into each side of the loose plate. Makes them way more solid and less rattle-y.

It was bugging me how cheesy they felt while handling them, much better now.

HTH someone.

 

[Wallyman]

Has anyone tried these 8' replacements?

JESLED T8/T10/T12 8FT LED Tube Light Bulbs, R17D/HO Base, 72W 6000K Cool White, 7200LM, V Shaped LED Replacement for Fluorescent Fixtures,Clear, Dual-Ended Powered, Ballast Bypass (Pack of 25)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078JWQ4NZ/?tag=atomicindus08-20

100 lumens per watt, so energy hogs by comparison to some of the other options, but drop in replacement for my R17D fixture (doing ballast bypass only) and with my (9) dual bulb fixtures I'll get 130K lumens vs. the 154K lumens of the original F96T12 HO bulbs (which are now 5 years old so nowhere near as bright). Plus the 90 degree offset LED's are an interesting feature to spread the light.

Thoughts, opinions or reviews anyone?

They arrived today.. 10 days from ordering to delivery in Michigan, shipped from Hong Kong via SF Express to the states, then FedEx from CA to MI. Initial impressions, not as bright as my half life'd T12 HO's. I'll post more info after I convert the rest of the shop.

Side note, anyone know of a cheap 8' R17D (dual pin) single bulb fixture housing? I'm going to have 7 leftover bulbs, if I can find an affordable single housing I may just stick them between my existing dual bulb fixtures to bring the lumens back up. Heck, it *almost* looks like I could slip another socket between the dual bulbs... hmmmm

 

[PaTruck87]

Did you ever get your tubes? I am still showing on backorder even though CS said they would be in this week.


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Yes I did. I ordered them on Oct 17, and they arrived on Oct 24. Still haven't ordered the housings yet as I have had too many other projects going on as of late around the house.

 

[GrantOpus]

Dang. Ordered mine on 10/17 ...still waiting

....cancelled...


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[RonRock]

Any thoughts on these?

https://www.ledmyplace.com/products/t8-8ft-v-shape-led-tube-60w-integrated-5000k-clear

Maybe they have been discussed already, I looked back a few pages but the thread is 82 pages long.

I bought a 4 pack to try them out. So far I like them, but still concerned about the longevity of them. About to order 10-20 more and wire for a ceiling install in my shop.

 

[Platonic Solid]

Any thoughts on these?

https://www.ledmyplace.com/products/t8-8ft-v-shape-led-tube-60w-integrated-5000k-clear

Pro = Cost, High lumen per dollar
Con = Clear lens, "V" LED array placement is only beneficial for very low ceiling install and if you want more light on your walls, combination of clear lens + "V" arrays = more eye irritating point light source glare. Assume ~30% usable lumen loss due to "V" LED arrangement.

 

[Howling]

I was looking at these as well you can get frosted lenses. I have 11' ceilings in my garage.

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[dusterdude]

Pro = Cost, High lumen per dollar
Con = Clear lens, "V" LED array placement is only beneficial for very low ceiling install and if you want more light on your walls, combination of clear lens + "V" arrays = more eye irritating point light source glare. Assume ~30% usable lumen loss due to "V" LED arrangement.

Would you consider an 8ft ceiling low?

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[RonRock]

Pro = Cost, High lumen per dollar
Con = Clear lens, "V" LED array placement is only beneficial for very low ceiling install and if you want more light on your walls, combination of clear lens + "V" arrays = more eye irritating point light source glare. Assume ~30% usable lumen loss due to "V" LED arrangement.

Thank you Platonic Solid.

My ceiling is 12 foot, it will be finished in white steel "pole barn siding."

I was thinking that the V would be good for spreading the light rather than pointing it straight down.

I was wondering if the frosted lens would dim the light brightness.

I understand the "irritating point light source glare" and it is truly something to consider. In fact that is one reason this lighting project has taken me so long. I started lighting my shop with T8 4 tube 8 foot fixtures. I like the light they put out, but I can see that they are starting to dim. I like the idea of LED, so a couple years ago I bought an 8' T8 V shape Clear lens and put it up as a test. Love the light but that point light is an issue. I had to think long and hard if I could stand it in the main shop area. Looking from one end to the other side of the shop I was concerned that those points would always "catch my eye" I finally decided to just go for it and see.

Now I am back to reconsidering. Any current pointers? I would like to stick with 8' T8 LED 5000k.

 

[RonRock]

I was looking at these as well you can get frosted lenses. I have 11' ceilings in my garage.

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Do they sell the lenses? I would like to swap the clear ones that I have now.

 

[Platonic Solid]

RonRock, Howling, dusterdude - To accurately answer the ideal mounting height question I need the IES file. Without the IES file I wouldn't consider these viable at over 8ft mounting height. The point light source glare won't be as bad at 11-12ft mounting height, but your wasting a lot of light up there with the "V" array arrangement. Suggest sourcing alternate standard non-"V" lamps with 120° aperture and frosted lens.

 

[RonRock]

Again thank you. And the search is on, once more.

 

[pigag2]

Hi, I've been looking at this very intersting post for sometime while trying to decide on what I need for ligthing in my woodworking shop. The inside dimension of the shop is 25 X 35 with 13 foot ceiling. The ceiling will be finished with white tin and the walls will be pine shiplap. The floor is typical concrete that I plan on polishing and applying a sealer. I will have most woodworking machines set up on the perimeter of the shop. My table saw, jointer, planner and assembly tables will be in the center of the room.

Being from Ontario, Canada, I am considering fixtures that are available in my area. I looked at RAB LED four foot fixtures (model SMW4-LED48) 4358 Lumens/48 watts. I used a Layout program found on rabdesing.ca. With my shop dimension and a reflectance of 80/20/20, they are calling for three rows of five 48" fixtures.

I am looking for input from those who have a similar shop!

Thanks

 

[Wallyman]

Decent 4' shop light alternative?

Picked up some "Barrina LED T5 Integrated Single Fixture, 4FT, 2200lm, 6500K (Super Bright White), 20W, Utility Shop Light, Ceiling and Under Cabinet Light, Corded Electric with Built-in ON/Off Switch" off Amazon at $6.62 a light ($53 for 8). I needed something I could just throw up in the lawn mower shed to replace old mismatched and beat up shop lights. These looked like a good option, and now that I have them I'm so far impressed! I mounted them up, and liked it so much I ordered 3 more sets (2 for bench light replacements, 1 for the house garage). While I wait for them to arrive (2 whole prime days away) I decided to bundle them into 4's, and hang them over the workbenches. Just hooked them up side by side on a 4" wide strip of wood and hung on string from the ceiling.

Cost: $27 per 4 bulb setup feels like a WIN.
Light output: is visibly better/brighter in my opinion. WIN.
Electrical Cost: Pair of dual bulb 4' shop lights with Sylvania F40/CWP lamps (3000 lumen rated each), after warmup, draw 1.25 amps. Quad setup of these LEDs draws 0.65, so just a shade over half. Actual new load is 19.5W per unit, a hair under rated. - WIN

Overall, happy as a clam in water. Happy to answer questions if anyone has them.
Wallyman

 

[voiddweller]

That's a very cost effective solution. Would you mind posting pics at night to show the output?

 

[tonyciambrone]

We opted to retrofit the fixtures with tubes in lieu of entire fixture replacement because the new fixture, with incentive rebate would still cost us $225 each fixture. In addition, most have internal diode strips. If one goes out past the 5 year warranty period, the entire fixture will have to be replaced. With our setup, all we have to do is replace a single tube.

I have done basically the same thing, but I am not done converting my office space. Warehouse and some of the office has been converted. I have installed 300 LED T8 tubes, different lumens and color temperatures depending on location. Converted 24 8ft T12 to 4 bulb t8. I have about 160 more bulbs in 2x4 troffers to go.

Going to make a huge difference on electricity. Not to mention, like others, I was constantly replacing ballasts and bulbs. No more flicker, no more hazardous waste disposal. The warehouse is much brighter and more pleasant, constant light.

 

[Platonic Solid]

Re: Decent 4' shop light alternative?

Wallyman - Yes, fixtures without any NRTL certification tend to be cheaper. Caveat emptor.

 

[badassblaze]

Lot of info to digest here. I'm trying to read through and understand all of this. Here is where I'm at:

Building a 30x50 shop. 10'6" finished ceiling height, just a plain flat ceiling. White walls and ceiling, light grey floor. Has floor joists 16" OC (2nd floor above the shop), and I'd like to do some sort of recessed lighting or flush mount lighting to stay as tucked up as possible. I want to do it right, but don't want to spend $3k in just lighting. Any recommendations on lighting fixtures and layout?

 

[poppakap]

What’s the recommended fixture for a dual led T8 4’ troffer/recessed style? Trying to conserve ceiling height and keep it flush.

 

[DOHC427]

Lot of info to digest here. I'm trying to read through and understand all of this. Here is where I'm at:

Building a 30x50 shop. 10'6" finished ceiling height, just a plain flat ceiling. White walls and ceiling, light grey floor. Has floor joists 16" OC (2nd floor above the shop), and I'd like to do some sort of recessed lighting or flush mount lighting to stay as tucked up as possible. I want to do it right, but don't want to spend $3k in just lighting. Any recommendations on lighting fixtures and layout?

I would be interested in this, too. I have 12’ ceilings.

 

[ahazi]

I would be interested in this, too. I have 12’ ceilings.

I used 10 of these in my 1,000 sq ft shop with 11 ft ceiling and I love it.


https://www.ledlightingwholesaleinc.com/ZY-H2-110W-p/zy-h2-110w.htm


In addition they are dimmable with 0-10 volt dimmer so you can have just as much light as you need.


Ariel

 

[Arrington]

Any good sales going on any of the sites for the 4ft T8 bulbs or 2 bulb 4ft fixtures anywhere? The led fixtures or bulbs.

 

[baggedcc07]

First time poster here. So I’ve searched within the thread for similar setups and haven’t had much luck. I’m in the process of building a 50x60 with 16’ eave height. Wallls and ceiling are white and floors will be a light gray. I’ll be mainly doing automotive work and fabrication. I’ll have a 2 post and 4 post lift. My question is would it be more economical for me to go with a 4’ fixture with 2 LED bulbs or one of the higher lumen fixtures? One thing that I dislike is when the ceiling seems dark. I’m guessing my only fix for that complaint would be to mount some lights on the walls also.