Thanks ! I`m really not kidding, I sit there for hours looking at things, trying something then modifying my plan till it works. Lots of string for measuring different areas and more planning. After I get the second floor done I`m going to install a new man door, conduit for alarm, cameras, DTV, I Com and phone. After that the walls will be opened to see where the mice are living, then close them up and paint them white. After that I will build all new shelves and get organized.