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Homebody
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No doubt!
Though if it were required I'd go with a glass wall beside the staircase.
look at what popped on my RSS feed today...
http://www.contemporist.com/2014/06...tm_campaign=Feed:+contemporist+(CONTEMPORIST)
Dude should have moved his huge bongs before taking the pic...duh!
cderalow
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Just saw another cool railing option I wanted to share with you:
this doesnt really meet most codes either. You need a handrail to provide a grab location. the vertical cables look like they provide the 4" sphere rule though.
Radio Ron w4ron
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Why not just put a handrail on the wall?
fastev
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Another plus for Impregnator. Impregnator Pro was recommended to me when I did my kitchen a few years ago. No trouble at all after a 3 years of use. http://www2.dupont.com/Stone_Tech_Professional/en_US/products/Protect/impregnator_pro.html
Another thought on the hand rail. Have a pipe shop weld up a pipe (ss, or Black iron, or square tube) that hangs down from the ceiling at the bottom end of the stairs and then returns to the upstairs floor slab. It would look like the letter "N" or backwards "N" depending on your perspective.
Build it and secure it as if you were going to take it down after receiving your C.O. if that is the look you are going for. Should you grow "old" in the home or wish to one day sell it, you have a handrail to go in place to meet any inspection requirements.
Build it and secure it as if you were going to take it down after receiving your C.O. if that is the look you are going for. Should you grow "old" in the home or wish to one day sell it, you have a handrail to go in place to meet any inspection requirements.
Hummmm.
"Dude", people with "huge bongs" aren't doing things like this.....
They, people with "huge bongs", probably have much different uses of their time and I'd expect, often sit around bored. In addition, I would seriously doubt they would have the skill.
Before you run off and get your ******* in a wad, I do understand it is likely some sort of juvenile attempt at humor.
If that is the case, perhaps a more through review of the typical interaction on the site would revel the mutual respect of an individuals hard work, creativity, and motivation to get off the couch and get it done.
welcome aboard!
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Sketch I said I'd send a long time ago..
Basically a floor mounted glass wall that starts around the 3rd tread from the bottom (you don't need a guard rail unless you have more than 30" drop off, so it doesn't need to hide the first couple treads) and ends where the glass rail turns the corner at the top. At the top it becomes a simple glass railing, face mounted on the edge of the upper floor slab. On the stair, the glass would attach to the treads and the portion above the stair would cantilever. Note: green color is for visibility in the illustration. I'd go clear with the glass to match all the other glass.
The handrail is a simple square tube shape, continuous, with as few attachments to the glass as you can get away with. Bury the bottom end in a core drilled hole, and do the same at the top where it hits the wall.
The idea is to see the stair and show it off, while doing something ELSE cool.
Basically a floor mounted glass wall that starts around the 3rd tread from the bottom (you don't need a guard rail unless you have more than 30" drop off, so it doesn't need to hide the first couple treads) and ends where the glass rail turns the corner at the top. At the top it becomes a simple glass railing, face mounted on the edge of the upper floor slab. On the stair, the glass would attach to the treads and the portion above the stair would cantilever. Note: green color is for visibility in the illustration. I'd go clear with the glass to match all the other glass.
The handrail is a simple square tube shape, continuous, with as few attachments to the glass as you can get away with. Bury the bottom end in a core drilled hole, and do the same at the top where it hits the wall.
The idea is to see the stair and show it off, while doing something ELSE cool.
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E12-535iTurbo
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Isn't it an option to temperarily add a rail for inspection and remove it later on again?
Nolift911
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I was going to say the same - kinda like a garbage disposal with a septic system around here - add it later after inspection.
Not sure if kids/grandkids are in the equation - I would be at the ER everyday with my 3 boys with that setup - ages 4, 7, 8
Epic - Lee - Sick - Build...btw.
The purpose of the codes are for life safety. If you choose to remove life safety elements, you won't be the first. For some that's okay. For others, doing it the right way and avoiding "what if scenarios" is worth doing.
JordonMusser
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Agreed OHS.. but its my house, I should be able to take whatever risks I want to. A lot of "code" things are for children, and I dont have any. yet I have to deal with the ******** that goes along with it.
Course..... I am one of those of people that takes great pride in personal responsibility.
Course..... I am one of those of people that takes great pride in personal responsibility.
SiGmA_X
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I agree with you, but this is America. Most people are solidly in the double digits...
There are plenty of jurisdictions that let you build whatever you like.
To me, having a house with missing railings is a risk I wouldn't want. Not for me, but for guests. Or an HVAC mechanic who needs to take a ladder up the stairs. Or maybe me when I'm much older...
While I don't disagree with your post from a layman's standpoint, as an architect, I like to learn the purpose behind the codes and apply them to the letter - because that is what's expected of me and (in my profession) it is what you do if you want to keep a license. Still, I like to push the limits when possible? My sketch illustrated and explained a way to do something that isn't often done (excluding the guard rail at the lowest treads) while still complying with the technical requirement. To me, that is good design. Reduced risk of being sued if a guest falls off my stairs is just a nice bonus.
But I do understand your point. Not intending to debate.
To me, having a house with missing railings is a risk I wouldn't want. Not for me, but for guests. Or an HVAC mechanic who needs to take a ladder up the stairs. Or maybe me when I'm much older...
While I don't disagree with your post from a layman's standpoint, as an architect, I like to learn the purpose behind the codes and apply them to the letter - because that is what's expected of me and (in my profession) it is what you do if you want to keep a license. Still, I like to push the limits when possible? My sketch illustrated and explained a way to do something that isn't often done (excluding the guard rail at the lowest treads) while still complying with the technical requirement. To me, that is good design. Reduced risk of being sued if a guest falls off my stairs is just a nice bonus.
But I do understand your point. Not intending to debate.
JordonMusser
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Fair enough
I get to install a temporary "alarm" on my front door because it opens up into my pool area. I have to have a 7 second high decibel "permanent" alarm for any door that opens into a pool area.. Even my 500+lb 5x8ft steel/glass front door :-/
I get to install a temporary "alarm" on my front door because it opens up into my pool area. I have to have a 7 second high decibel "permanent" alarm for any door that opens into a pool area.. Even my 500+lb 5x8ft steel/glass front door :-/
WHAT?!
This is one of the rare reasons I appreciate living in a 3rd World Country. If a guest falls of my stairs we laugh at him and call him random stupid nicknames for the rest of his life.
don long
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I have visited this site soo many times
and the build is so out of my comprehension
It is just plain way cool to see it coming together
What imagination and talent has gone into this place
WOW
Don
and the build is so out of my comprehension
It is just plain way cool to see it coming together
What imagination and talent has gone into this place
WOW
Don
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ODIS
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Me too!
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:neonnblack
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****, when they fall down mine, i just hide the body!
Harumph! I thought that post was funny and not even remotely offensive.
Same here... Just proof that this audience is starving for an update.
But I also realize that with the frozen tundra finally thawing out, it's probably time for Doug to be making money rather than spending it. So I will take what I can get.
CoconutPete
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Wow. Just checked in for updates...... Mind = Blown!
BBChevro
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Wow, I've just spent the last couple of weeks reading through this thread from the beginning to the present time - it's an amazing build in a beautiful location (by the look of things, a bit on the cold side at times though).
I know a lot more about concrete now - and the extra challenges that you had to face because of the weather, such as having to insulate the slab from the frost (not something that a "warm climate dweller" such as myself would ever consider).
There are sooooo many outstanding features (those floating steps spring to mind) - there's probably nothing I can say that hasn't already been said.
I eagerly look forward to your updates on this project & also anticipate your future threads (Willys coupe build ???
).
Mark
I know a lot more about concrete now - and the extra challenges that you had to face because of the weather, such as having to insulate the slab from the frost (not something that a "warm climate dweller" such as myself would ever consider).
There are sooooo many outstanding features (those floating steps spring to mind) - there's probably nothing I can say that hasn't already been said.
I eagerly look forward to your updates on this project & also anticipate your future threads (Willys coupe build ???
).Mark
Mr onetwo
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Hey LL, could you PM me sometime when you get a chance, with your source for the limestone planks that you used on your floor...they are beautiful!Thanks!
irisservice
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awesome build!!!
PureSilver
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This build continues to be amongst the best - in the top two, actually - that I've ever seen.
Does anyone else know forums where I'd find more of these advanced home builds, as well as garages?
Does anyone else know forums where I'd find more of these advanced home builds, as well as garages?
Damn LL. we need updates. You probably busy as we all are in the summer, but you officially have me in suspense. Keep it up. I bet its getting really expensive with all the finish material. My pops always says, a home build doesn't really feel expensive till you come home with a little dogie bag filled with $1000 worth of fixtures, for one bathroom.
Mpower5266
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I have just spent the last day and a half at work going though this thread. Epic doesnt even begin to describe it. I am hooked and cant wait to see more.
hobbitss
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Bump back to the front page...
When the posts start referring to the lack of updates and the thread starts getting bumped, it's obvious I've been remiss. I appreciate all the interest and will do my best to post a proper update shortly.
The challenge will be finding some interesting content. The limestone flooring is proceeding more slowly than expected due mostly to the fact that my installer is in the hospital on a morphine drip. Apparently installing 17 1/2 tons of limestone from one's knees is likely to cause bulging and herniated discs.
While he tries to keep the project going by calling in favors from other installers, we're busy sealing the limestone before and after grouting. Yet another project whose time and cost we under-estiimated.
Once the flooring is down, it opens up all kinds of work. Interior doors and the flush baseboard detail will be followed by drywall and then all hell breaks loose - I hope.
With all that said, we are making progress. I'll cobble together some pics and post a proper update shortly. In the meantime, let me thank you all again for your continuing interest and patience.
The challenge will be finding some interesting content. The limestone flooring is proceeding more slowly than expected due mostly to the fact that my installer is in the hospital on a morphine drip. Apparently installing 17 1/2 tons of limestone from one's knees is likely to cause bulging and herniated discs.
While he tries to keep the project going by calling in favors from other installers, we're busy sealing the limestone before and after grouting. Yet another project whose time and cost we under-estiimated.
Once the flooring is down, it opens up all kinds of work. Interior doors and the flush baseboard detail will be followed by drywall and then all hell breaks loose - I hope.
With all that said, we are making progress. I'll cobble together some pics and post a proper update shortly. In the meantime, let me thank you all again for your continuing interest and patience.
Even a less than proper update is acceptable. I need my 'crete fix.
Modern Jess
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You sell yourself short. Even the minor updates that you post are interesting and worthwhile.
granada don
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Being a old wood framer dude from the 60's , I love to see this different way of building a cool home
So bring on the pics of anything involved in the building
They are all good !!!
G Don
So bring on the pics of anything involved in the building
They are all good !!!
G Don