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Damn, I was clean for awhile and now MY CRACK IS BACK!!:drool::rocker::bounce:
Great to have you back!!:beer:

I always wondered how that drive was gonna be in the snow and ice...:shocking:
 
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Since this IS the Garage Journal, let's start getting you all caught up with a few pics of the shop. While this area isn't complete it was always intended as a work space first and foremost. I still plan to drywall over the plywood and do something with the floor.

I'm primarily into metal work so welding is a big part of what I do out here.



This is a welding table I built a while back. The clamps work great.



You might remember the channel I left in the wall framing and insulation to pull in wiring, air lines, etc. Here is a pic of the wiring going in. I made modular panels out of MDO plywood for the outlets and air fittings so I could easily remove them to fit more stuff in. I left a little loop of wire so I could pull each section out. The future drywall will be flush with the MDO and terminated with a PVC edge bead.



I don't have any pics of the air line going in but it is made of PVC.......... just checking to see if you are paying attention. It is made of 3/4" galvanized steel. I had enough room to get a little over an 1/8" per foot pitch away from the compressor, which is located in a closet in the adjacent garage. I made little risers to try to limit water, etc.



I also installed a hose reel with an oiler for air tools



Well hopefully this gets us started. I didn't have too much time tonight but wanted to get something up. I'll post another shop update tomorrow.
 

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This is going to be awesome.

I got sucked right in from the very first post - I really love the stairs you made - among the other items in this project....

Let's see that driveway!
 

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Thanks for your past and hopefully future posts to your thread. You make the calls on how often you can update. We will always be here.
 

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This is great news. Since your first return post, there were 3 pages of welcome back comments--that's awesome. You definitely have a following here. I've been waiting to see how this place turned out too! Looking forward to it.
 

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Welcome back Doug. I hear the weather has been nice up there this week.

When you're able, please show us how that stair and railings turned out.
 

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Nice to see your back and living in the place, your work is amazing.

I want to comment on your air hose with the oil mister, IMHO that is not a good idea. The coils will collect the oil in pockets, in having machines with air mist lubrication, the dry air is run as close to the tool as practical. The other thing is, every time you make or break a connection you will get oil.

I really enjoyed your build photos and running dialogue, my dad was an architect who was very much a modernist.

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Welcome back Doug! Glad to see you are doing well and posting again. I always enjoy following your posting here. Love the airlines and utility chase idea in the wall.

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Thank you all for your kind comments! It is very nice to be back among friends

Nice work. If you're going to cover it all with drywall, why are the panels modular?

I will drywall up to the top and bottom of MDO panels but not over them. The MDO and the drywall are both laid over the plywood. I'll finish the raw edge of the sheetrock with a PVC strip made for this purpose

Welcome back Doug. I hear the weather has been nice up there this week.

When you're able, please show us how that stair and railings turned out.

Minus 30 degrees with the wind chill today after a foot of snow a couple days ago! Tell me again why I built this thing in Maine! Freakin Brrrrr!

Will do on the stairs and rails!


I want to comment on your air hose with the oil mister, IMHO that is not a good idea. The coils will collect the oil in pockets, in having machines with air mist lubrication, the dry air is run as close to the tool as practical. The other thing is, every time you make or break a connection you will get oil.

Good point, Steve. To be honest I hadn't really thought much about that. I had the oiler kicking around and stuck it on there. I never got around to adding oil and now I doubt I will.

The next update to follow shortly
 

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The next update to follow shortly


I'm just sitting here, wildly mashing the refresh button...

I don't post very often but I've followed this build since I first joined the forum, just thought I'd chime in that it's nice to see you're back!
 
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I figured I'd start out with a bit more on the chase I used to run electrical, air, etc. You might remember this pic. After the insulation and Z furring was done, I installed the plywood.

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We insulated the concrete shop walls with rigid and Z furring. The chase was the only way I could figure out to run utilities other than on the surface. Once I did that, the MDO panels seemed like a good way to keep it accessible for repairs or mods.

A couple more pics of the shop area. It's pretty basic but functional. I'd like to replace the cheap shelving with some enclosed storage to keep dust off everything.

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The plywood/saw horse table will eventually be replacing by a rolling steel work table. I prefer a big table I can walk around to a wall mounted work bench.

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This is the corner with a water closet and sink.

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I used MR board for the bottom course of sheetrock. You might also notice I put a later of 1/2" plywood over the metal studs to make fastening thru the drywall easier and prevent holes getting poked thru.

More junk on shelves;

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Those of you who have been around since the beginning or were bored enough to actually read this thing from the beginning might remember this.......

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Or this......

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Or perhaps even this.....

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Well it all culminates in this!!

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It works great and is worth every bit of trouble! I had to guess on the location of the 'skylight' that provides some additional roof clearance in my 10' ceilings. It works perfectly for the '55, which is a pretty boxy car.

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The control unit and air supply;

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The arms swing out to similar to other lifts to let you drive on. I don't have a good pic to show but the wheels pass over the top of the frame, which is beveled to make it a little easier

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This configuration provides pretty good access without interfering with the bridge crane I still plan to install someday.

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You might recall I had a couple of the roof beams lengthened to support the trolleys for the bridge crane cross beam.

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It's not a huge shop - 28x28 OD - but it seems to work pretty good. One bay with a lift for a vehicle and a second bay for working.

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Finally, how about of a shot from outside. The shop is behind the single overhead (kinda) door on the right. The larger door is the garage where we park the daily drivers.

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That pretty much brings you up to speed on the shop. Like most of you I started dreaming this whole thing up by thinking about my shop. In my dreams it was not only functional but looked like a NASCAR fab shop with shiny floors, matching two tone cabinets, stainless steel counters and bright lights.........Well we might still get there but for now, I've got no complaints.

I'll probably go back in time on the next post to share some construction details before we start a tour of the (almost) finished product.
 
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Welcome back. Glad to hear you are well and making progress all along. PVC for air lines, good one. Haha

Now about the willys update on the hamb....

Really, great to hear and see you are doing well!
 

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Gotta ask, how did the local "code officer" do with your build, particularly in the beginning?
I'd be willing to wage that he did a little head scratching, at least early on.
 

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Hey Doug, so glad to see you back here!! You've made good progress, can't wait to see the rest of the house (finished floors and the stairs!)

Remember these?
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(the whole album is here) https://imgur.com/a/UbZCH

Well it was so long ago we now have two more kids!
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Your house has been an inspiration for my father's construction. They have used large fibrocement panels and bare concrete flooring in some areas. The core is BONE Structure (steel).
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Yay! I was always sad that we never got to see a little more of the finished product. So many cool architectural and finish details as well as valuable construction advice...but some weren't quite finished enough for me to see your vision. You're a DIY hero.
 

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As I remember the 4 holes in floor by lift are up lighting.

LLwillys, I remember a garage at the top of the hill, still use that?

Thanks for coming back, we all missed your thread.
 

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As I remember the 4 holes in floor by lift are up lighting.

LLwillys, I remember a garage at the top of the hill, still use that?

Thanks for coming back, we all missed your thread.
There is a picture of that garage in my album.
That's where the tractor and stuff goes. I'm sure it's quite useful lately!!!

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Thank you all for your kind comments! It is very nice to be back among friends




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Hi Doug,

Glad all is well and love the Chevy!

I'm going to pipe in on the airline piping. When I ran mine in the shop we put 12" dogleg drops in with a ball valve on the end before the filter riser. That way water/moisture would collect there and the filter didn't see much moisture even when sandblasting. When shutting the system down I'll open the ball valve and bleed what is in there out.
Just a thought!

Happy New Year!

Regards,

.
 

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You must have (partially) read my mind Doug, I was going to ask about the cars - and low and behold, there's a couple of great pics of the '55 on that neat lift.:thumbup:

I said "partially" because there was a bit more on my mind - maybe I'll send a subliminal message at the end of this post...



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(Is it working yet? :headscrat).
 

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Good point, Steve. To be honest I hadn't really thought much about that. I had the oiler kicking around and stuck it on there. I never got around to adding oil and now I doubt I will.

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Doug, welcome back! It's great to see an update, and to hear that the shop is in use.

I always wanted to run oil in my airlines but my research came up with the same info - keep it dry to the tool, add oil pre-tool. I never ended up actually doing that and just add oil TO the tools directly.
 

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That's what I have always done as well - I also have a bit of hose (about 6' long) that I attach to the end of the supply hose whenever I attach tools so that my supply hose doesn't get contaminated with oil (clean hose for painting).
So far I've resisted the urge to click that "oil hose" into itself when not in use, as that would possibly contaminate the clean end - ideally, I should put different style fittings on tools and spray guns, but I've just never got to doing that.
 
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Gotta ask, how did the local "code officer" do with your build, particularly in the beginning?
I'd be willing to wage that he did a little head scratching, at least early on.

Yea, he didn't really know what to make of it. lol. Since I had stamped drawings from a structural engineer, he pretty much just stuck with plumbing and electrical. He was really more of an fan and even brought his wife down to see the crazy house some guy is building down by the rivah.

Remember these?

Well it was so long ago we now have two more kids!

Your house has been an inspiration for my father's construction. They have used large fibrocement panels and bare concrete flooring in some areas. The core is BONE Structure (steel).

I sure do BeachBoy! (I can see the pics on TapaTalk) I thoroughly enjoyed your visit and meeting you and your beautiful family. Congratulations on the new additions!

Your parents house is amazing! I'd love to see more of it. Hmmm......Maybe a build thread is in order! I'm sure you have plenty of time on your hands! :willy_nil


As I remember the 4 holes in floor by lift are up lighting.

LLwillys, I remember a garage at the top of the hill, still use that?

Good memory on the light sleeves. I might even get them installed some day.

The garage up top get's too much use. It seems to fill up with junk all be itself but I do manage to make enough room for snow removal and sanding equipment


I have a question for you Doug,

How much different would it have been to do tilt up walls?

Steve

Steve. We don't see a lot of tilt up in this part of the world. I think it is better suited to large structures with lots of unobstructed floor space to cast the wall panels on. I didn't have much of that!

I'm going to pipe in on the airline piping. When I ran mine in the shop we put 12" dogleg drops in with a ball valve on the end before the filter riser. That way water/moisture would collect there and the filter didn't see much moisture even when sandblasting. When shutting the system down I'll open the ball valve and bleed what is in there out.

I always wanted to run oil in my airlines but my research came up with the same info - keep it dry to the tool, add oil pre-tool. I never ended up actually doing that and just add oil TO the tools directly.

Thanks for the tips! Gotta love the brotherhood of the GJ.
 
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