The DeWalt Addiction Thread

[Downwindtracker 2]

My favourite DeWalt is green, a '61 radial arm saw. The second favourite is 1/4 sheet orbital palm sander. They got the design when B&D bought a French company. I just keeps working.

 

[Handyandy23]

The DCF902 3/8 impact 12V Xtreme has piqued my interest, as I have been wanting the M12 Fuel 3/8" stubby for a while. But not sure how favorably it stacks up.

The Fuel stubby is shorter by 0.3", and advertises 250 ft lbs of "nut busting torque" versus 200 ft lbs for the DeWalt. The DW is slightly lighter though.

The other thing is if I buy into a 12V lineup I want it to have everything I want. M12 already has a diverse lineup with the ratchets, lights, cutoff tools, new die grinders, etc. Hard to know how far DeWalt's lineup will end up going.

On the other hand I really like my 20V line tools and if lineups were equal I'd definitely go yellow again.

 

[Handyandy23]

I'm even more confused by how the new 20V Atomic tools coexist with the new 12V Xtreme tools (or vice versa).

Take the 1/4" impact drivers for example. Both brushless. The 20V is more powerful, and also an inch shorter and a hair lighter.

What is the draw of the 12V version then? To me the selling feature of going with less power is to get a smaller and lighter tool. If the 20V Atomic is lighter and smaller and more powerful that kind of kills the draw of the 12V version IMO.

 

[joseywales]

I'm even more confused by how the new 20V Atomic tools coexist with the new 12V Xtreme tools (or vice versa).

Take the 1/4" impact drivers for example. Both brushless. The 20V is more powerful, and also an inch shorter and a hair lighter.

What is the draw of the 12V version then? To me the selling feature of going with less power is to get a smaller and lighter tool. If the 20V Atomic is lighter and smaller and more powerful that kind of kills the draw of the 12V version IMO.

/\ /\ /\ this is exactly how I ended up in M12 quicksand last week.

The week before, I grabbed a DW 20V Max, burshless drill and impact, separately, because it was a better deal than the combo extra battery and extra charger for $20, IIRCC. Then I bought other spare batteries, etc. Good to go right?

Wednesday, I'm at HD and there's an older customer and I swear I'm looking at myself in 10 years. He is, politely, adamant with the Ryobi/Milwaukee reps that they need to take an M12 1/4" brushless impact off the shelf and sell it to him, because there are none others to be found in the store AND it's listed for sale. The problem was, it wasn't for sale, individually. You had to buy the set, with the drill. He doesn't need the drill, or any M12 tool, because he has ALL of them. Pipe cutters, band saw, you name it he has it. Retired HVAC tech, who is still doing smaller jobs. I had to know what drove this guy to want that M12 impact so badly.

We chatted for quite a while, as the reps took the single tool off the shelf, and with no way to ring it out, they then had an HD department head "clearance" the item, so they could price it appropriately. The truth is, I wanted something a bit smaller than the DW 20, but do like the feel of those DWs. So, i figured I could buy the M12 combo and return it, if I didn't like it. Catch and release if you will. Of course, they were out of the combo as well. I burned rubber to the HD closer to me and I kid you not, there was a guy standing at the M12 display, fondling the 1/4" on display. I sensed another conversation, but before that would start, I intently focused on the bottom, mostly empty shelf, hoping to find one of 3 that store had left. They didn't have the, they had one and I grabbed it, then the customer there engaged me and I regurgitated what the HVAC had told me. We no sooner finish talking and a younger guy comes in, looking for what will be his fourth 1/4". He uses them all day long and the chucks keep breaking. not sure why he doesn't just have two, and ask Milwaukee to repair one, while keeping the other in rotation, but I had to get out of there.

I haven't handled the DW Atomic, but have gathered enough 20V batteries/chargers. I also now have the M12 drill and impact, with the hacksaw and ratchet on the way. I wanted to grab everything while it was on sale and when I get back from vacation, I'll sort through what I'm keeping and not.

The DW 12 might be interesting, but as stated by others, how long will it take to have a full product line. Some do like the grip of the DW better than the M12 and I won't lie that the DW is comfy. That said, have fairly larger hands and don't find the M12 awkward and, since the intent of the 12V is partly about tight spaces, it's nice to have the battery inside the handle, at times. I always seems to find myself wedged in places I don't belong, mostly due to time constraints on the spur of the moment projects that come up.

 

[Farmall450]

I'm glad to see DeWalt isn't abandoning 12v, as I kinda guessed due to the atomic line.

 

[Farmall450]

/\ /\ /\ this is exactly how I ended up in M12 quicksand last week.

The week before, I grabbed a DW 20V Max, burshless drill and impact, separately, because it was a better deal than the combo extra battery and extra charger for $20, IIRCC. Then I bought other spare batteries, etc. Good to go right?

Wednesday, I'm at HD and there's an older customer and I swear I'm looking at myself in 10 years. He is, politely, adamant with the Ryobi/Milwaukee reps that they need to take an M12 1/4" brushless impact off the shelf and sell it to him, because there are none others to be found in the store AND it's listed for sale. The problem was, it wasn't for sale, individually. You had to buy the set, with the drill. He doesn't need the drill, or any M12 tool, because he has ALL of them. Pipe cutters, band saw, you name it he has it. Retired HVAC tech, who is still doing smaller jobs. I had to know what drove this guy to want that M12 impact so badly.

We chatted for quite a while, as the reps took the single tool off the shelf, and with no way to ring it out, they then had an HD department head "clearance" the item, so they could price it appropriately. The truth is, I wanted something a bit smaller than the DW 20, but do like the feel of those DWs. So, i figured I could buy the M12 combo and return it, if I didn't like it. Catch and release if you will. Of course, they were out of the combo as well. I burned rubber to the HD closer to me and I kid you not, there was a guy standing at the M12 display, fondling the 1/4" on display. I sensed another conversation, but before that would start, I intently focused on the bottom, mostly empty shelf, hoping to find one of 3 that store had left. They didn't have the, they had one and I grabbed it, then the customer there engaged me and I regurgitated what the HVAC had told me. We no sooner finish talking and a younger guy comes in, looking for what will be his fourth 1/4". He uses them all day long and the chucks keep breaking. not sure why he doesn't just have two, and ask Milwaukee to repair one, while keeping the other in rotation, but I had to get out of there.

I haven't handled the DW Atomic, but have gathered enough 20V batteries/chargers. I also now have the M12 drill and impact, with the hacksaw and ratchet on the way. I wanted to grab everything while it was on sale and when I get back from vacation, I'll sort through what I'm keeping and not.

The DW 12 might be interesting, but as stated by others, how long will it take to have a full product line. Some do like the grip of the DW better than the M12 and I won't lie that the DW is comfy. That said, have fairly larger hands and don't find the M12 awkward and, since the intent of the 12V is partly about tight spaces, it's nice to have the battery inside the handle, at times. I always seems to find myself wedged in places I don't belong, mostly due to time constraints on the spur of the moment projects that come up.

You shouldn't need a spare b/c the other is constantly breaking. This isn't cheap lawnmowers that we're talking about

 

[Handyandy23]

We no sooner finish talking and a younger guy comes in, looking for what will be his fourth 1/4". He uses them all day long and the chucks keep breaking. not sure why he doesn't just have two, and ask Milwaukee to repair one, while keeping the other in rotation, but I had to get out of there.

You shouldn't need a spare b/c the other is constantly breaking. This isn't cheap lawnmowers that we're talking about

^I agree, I don't have anything against Milwaukee or their tools, but you'd think if you had one that kept breaking over and over doing the same tasks, buying the same one over and over is hitting your head against the wall.

Either switch to another brand or upgrade to a more robust tool! Clearly whatever he's using it for might be above the design intent.

 

[mike93lx]

Imo, 12v tools should have batteries that fit in, or are the shape of, the handle. 18v tools are light enough that i don't want another, slightly smaller tool in the same effective form factor.

I have a bunch of dewalt 20v and if i need something smaller, it will be M12 or bosch

 

[Farmall450]

Imo, 12v tools should have batteries that fit in, or are the shape of, the handle. 18v tools are light enough that i don't want another, slightly smaller tool in the same effective form factor.

I have a bunch of dewalt 20v and if i need something smaller, it will be M12 or bosch

I hate the grips though, although I get where you're coming from an agree, especially as tech advances. However, with that being said, the slide 12v MAX are just as small as the 3+ Ah M12...so it's a moot point besides the grip now being unergonomic.

 

[WittHay]

Cant stand Milwaukee M12 hand held tools. The Bosch might be better but most of the new 12 volt tools from Hilti, Metabo and Makita all use the DeWalt type slide on batteries.

Have a Milwaukee Fuel screwdriver that hardly ever gets used. If I know that i am going to do lots of small work, I bring the DeWalt 12 volt tools from home.

Cant wait to see the new DeWalt 12V brushless. Probably will buy some to replace the Milwaukee M12 Fuel tools at work. The 4 smaller tools in the picture are 12 volt. The smaller size makes a difference when you are standing on a ladder, working overhead or doing hundreds of screws.

The Milwaukee M12 with large batteries is a poor substitute for the DeWalt atomic line. With the small batteries you have a un ergonomic, fairly large tool that wont stand upright. A Hilti or Dewalt 12 volt is a lot better choice for hours on end use.

 

[mike93lx]

Cant stand Milwaukee M12 hand held tools. The Bosch might be better but most of the new 12 volt tools from Hilti, Metabo and Makita all use the DeWalt type slide on batteries.

Have a Milwaukee Fuel screwdriver that hardly ever gets used. If I know that i am going to do lots of small work, I bring the DeWalt 12 volt tools from home.

Cant wait to see the new DeWalt 12V brushless. Probably will buy some to replace the Milwaukee M12 Fuel tools at work. The 4 smaller tools in the picture are 12 volt. The smaller size makes a difference when you are standing on a ladder, working overhead or doing hundreds of screws.

The Milwaukee M12 with large batteries is a poor substitute for the DeWalt atomic line. With the small batteries you have a un ergonomic, fairly large tool that wont stand upright. A Hilti or Dewalt 12 volt is a lot better choice for hours on end use.

Believe it or not, but hours of use isn't the only use case and standing tools up on the battery doesn't matter to everyone. I use 12v tools for small projects only, which i would bet is the case for a lot of people that have multiple sets of cordless tools at home.

I specifically wouldn't use the bigger 3ah batteries in M12 as it defeats the benefit of the small tools. At that point, i would use my full size stuff. I've had a nextec 12v set for many years and use the **** out of it around the house. The drill recently burned up and i have another battery on its way out, so a replacement is needed soon. It unfortunately won't be dewalt 12v due to the form factor

 

[Handyandy23]

The 12v DeWalt lineup unfortunately just doesn't offer enough variety at this point to entice me. How many slight size variants do we need on drills and drivers? I know that's kind of the "bread and butter" of the cordless tool market, and what they put the combo deals on to draw in the average Joe, but come on! You've got multiple 20v drills and drivers, you've got the Atomic 20v line, and half the current 12v lineup is the same thing.

I guess investing in 12v tools is a different draw for everyone. If I was starting all over again I'd probably get a 20v hammer drill for power, and a 12v baby drill for light work. As it is I might end up with a 12v drill at some point, but the draw for me is more in the variety of tools I can get that I don't currently have access to with an all-yellow toolbox.

The M12 lineup has a lot of interesting auto tools that I'd like to get into, a cordless screwdriver that looks more handy than another smaller impact, and a much larger variety of lights and random tools and accessories.

 

[SK-Mike]

IMO I feel Makita makes the best 12v Tools. They seem to have the bestf power to size ratio not to mention they offer 4.0 amp hour batteries for their 12v tools, along with 1.5, & 2.0amp hour.

I’ve recently been selling my Dewalt & making the jump to Makita, I also prefer how they do the 18v tools, use 2 batteries (36v) instead of a different battery platform (flexvolt).

 

[Handyandy23]

IMO I feel Makita makes the best 12v Tools. They seem to have the bestf power to size ratio not to mention they offer 4.0 amp hour batteries for their 12v tools, along with 1.5, & 2.0amp hour.

I’ve recently been selling my Dewalt & making the jump to Makita, I also prefer how they do the 18v tools, use 2 batteries (36v) instead of a different battery platform (flexvolt).

I haven't used any Makita tools so I can't say for sure, but their 12v batteries and tools look kind of chunky to me. Also not as much variety in the lineup as Milwaukee offers, and their 12v impact wrench has less than half the torque of the M12.

I do agree on the 36v tools with the dual batteries though! Not that I need a saw that powerful, but I would have bought the big boy DeWalt circular saw if it used 2x 20V batteries instead of the special Flexvolt battery.

 

[Balakay]

My drawer at work. Theres a work light in another drawer somewhere. Really liking them. Thinking about swapping over to DeWalt at home and giving my Milwaukee stuff to my dad.


Edit: cant figure out how to psot pics on this website.

 

[Farmall450]

IMO I feel Makita makes the best 12v Tools. They seem to have the bestf power to size ratio not to mention they offer 4.0 amp hour batteries for their 12v tools, along with 1.5, & 2.0amp hour.

I’ve recently been selling my Dewalt & making the jump to Makita, I also prefer how they do the 18v tools, use 2 batteries (36v) instead of a different battery platform (flexvolt).

The nice thing about flexvolt being it's not really a new platform -- you can use it as a high Ah alternative in your usual 20v stuff, and use your same charger, etc. Sure, the battery isn't cheap -- but neither is a 12ah M18, or 2x 5ah Makitas

 

[Farmall450]

My drawer at work. Theres a work light in another drawer somewhere. Really liking them. Thinking about swapping over to DeWalt at home and giving my Milwaukee stuff to my dad.


Edit: cant figure out how to psot pics on this website.

When posting/editing the post hit Manage Attachments under additional options (you'll have to hit go advanced if you quick reply). Choose and then upload them there

 

[Balakay]

When posting/editing the post hit Manage Attachments under additional options (you'll have to hit go advanced if you quick reply). Choose and then upload them there

I just tried it again from my phone and it's not working. I don't know what it is. Oh well.

 

[Luciferi]

https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-20-Volt-Max-Jobsite-Fan-Kit-with-1-5-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-DCE511C1/308240268?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CD25T%7C25-9_PORTABLE+POWER%7CNA%7CLIA|71700000044155732|58700004615424082|92700045026638625&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgLLoBRDyARIsACRAZe7YxRrpTS8qaFIlc39Z7gToWsHZJUhX4-R7u_8iZOIFLiC5tVpHGnkaAiX5EALw_wcB

Walking through Home Depot in the front aisle I saw the dewalt fan packaged with battery and charger for $99. I have been waiting for the price to drop and this might help convince me. Battery is only 1.5ah though.

 

[Farmall450]

https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-20-Volt-Max-Jobsite-Fan-Kit-with-1-5-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-DCE511C1/308240268?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CD25T%7C25-9_PORTABLE+POWER%7CNA%7CLIA|71700000044155732|58700004615424082|92700045026638625&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgLLoBRDyARIsACRAZe7YxRrpTS8qaFIlc39Z7gToWsHZJUhX4-R7u_8iZOIFLiC5tVpHGnkaAiX5EALw_wcB

Walking through Home Depot in the front aisle I saw the dewalt fan packaged with battery and charger for $99. I have been waiting for the price to drop and this might help convince me. Battery is only 1.5ah though.

If you want a 3.0 Farm & Fleet has the fan for $119 w/ a free 3.0 battery and charger.

https://www.farmandfleet.com/produc...11-cordless-corded-jobsite-fan-bare-tool.html

 

[FULLSCALE302]

Finally going to pick up my Dewalt rolling stool. I’ve never bought anything from Farm & Fleet before but they had it on sale. Their site wouldn’t accept my Canadian address as the billing address while my shipping address is in Michigan. I called and the ******* the phone says they won’t export to Canada so I asked how it’s different than me picking up in their store and bringing it home? No reason or much of a response from her and wouldn’t sell it to me so I had HD match the price.

 

[PelicanPines]

Dewalt 20v 3D printed battery holders... They can be mounted on the side and it will hold the batteries... Or under a shelf... The batteries slide smoothly. Purchased on eBay... I didn't print them.

I also got 3D printed battery holders for the red tools... they are a tad nicer... they hold the battery snug.

 

[nastorino]

After working at Stanley for 3yrs my Dewalt collection is obscene thanks to their awesome discount LOL I have batteries and tools and lights all over our new house. Its miserable trying to find where i left each one when I need it LOL

 

[PelicanPines]

After working at Stanley for 3yrs my Dewalt collection is obscene thanks to their awesome discount LOL I have batteries and tools and lights all over our new house. Its miserable trying to find where i left each one when I need it LOL

You only have one of each?

 

[Farmall450]

Newest addition ($10 off bare tools + free 3.0 Ah starter kit @ Blain's Farm & Fleet)

 

[Farmall450]

Finally going to pick up my Dewalt rolling stool. I’ve never bought anything from Farm & Fleet before but they had it on sale. Their site wouldn’t accept my Canadian address as the billing address while my shipping address is in Michigan. I called and the ******* the phone says they won’t export to Canada so I asked how it’s different than me picking up in their store and bringing it home? No reason or much of a response from her and wouldn’t sell it to me so I had HD match the price.

I'd probably use the MI address as billing too; I imagine there are some finer details in selling/exporting than we'd guess.

 

[Sdipin]

Dont know why i bought all of it or why i took a pic. But it happened. Also this pic is over a year old. So theres more yellow and im in the M12 line also

 

[thesilverone]

we have a winner

 

[Farmall450]

Dont know why i bought all of it or why i took a pic. But it happened. Also this pic is over a year old. So theres more yellow and im in the M12 line also

Nice looking fleet!

 

[boostin20v]

Is $99 good for the 1/4 20v brushless impact with battery, charger and case?

https://valuhomecenters.com/this-weeks-ad/

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[finn]

I'd probably use the MI address as billing too; I imagine there are some finer details in selling/exporting than we'd guess.

Don’t think you can do that: the billing address has to match the address on record with the cc company.

 

[mike93lx]

Is $99 good for the 1/4 20v brushless impact with battery, charger and case?

https://valuhomecenters.com/this-weeks-ad/

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It's pretty standard. Batteries are the lowest capacity with no gauge. Will be fine for light use, but anything heavy, you'll end up wanting at least 2ah or 3ah.

If you need other tools, I would look for a bigger kit

 

[Luked]

Just picked this bad boy up off of craigslist for $120, looks brand new

 

[Handyandy23]

Just picked this bad boy up off of craigslist for $120, looks brand new

Nice, this one is on my list of tools to look out for.

 

[ClappedOutBport]

Is $99 good for the 1/4 20v brushless impact with battery, charger and case?

https://valuhomecenters.com/this-weeks-ad/

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It's pretty standard. Batteries are the lowest capacity with no gauge. Will be fine for light use, but anything heavy, you'll end up wanting at least 2ah or 3ah.

If you need other tools, I would look for a bigger kit

Idk what heavy use is, but those batteries work fine for me. Took apart an entire home-made camper, removed the engine, etc on one charge. Also put in MDF in the walls and ceiling of a 12x24 shop, only charged after a few days because I thought it might could use it, not that it ever needed it. Maybe if you do timber framing all day, otherwise they should be fine.

 

[mike93lx]

Home depot has some specials today only. Impact, drill and a Sawzall or circ saw for 180

 

[pp1]

https://www.homedepot.com/SpecialBuy/SpecialBuyOfTheDay
Ended up buying the boots, but I do think the bonus oscillating tool for $179 is a good deal. Would have gotten this instead of the oscillating tool by itself awhile back.

 

[Nineeightyone]

Is $99 good for the 1/4 20v brushless impact with battery, charger and case?

https://valuhomecenters.com/this-weeks-ad/

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For a couple bucks more, I'd buy the 3 speed variant DCF887B. Having multiple speeds comes in handy to avoid stripping out screw heads, where the single speed one has all the speed control in the trigger.

 

[mike93lx]

For a couple bucks more, I'd buy the 3 speed variant DCF887B. Having multiple speeds comes in handy to avoid stripping out screw heads, where the single speed one has all the speed control in the trigger.

That's another great point. I use the speed switch all the time. 887 is a great tool

 

[FULLSCALE302]

Don’t think you can do that: the billing address has to match the address on record with the cc company.

Yep, you’re right. It wouldn’t accept the MI address at checkout. Either way I’m super happy with the stool!