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Two battery platforms is no big deal.

M12 is great for ratchets, the OMT, compact impact wrench, and lighting.

I'm happy having both

Same. I'm into Dewalt 20v with three of their impacts and a drill, but I picked up Milwaukee's 3" M12 cutting tool so I'm rocking both now. I wisj Dewalt had a cutting tool to compete with the Milwaukee but they don't and so it goes.


Been working on my driver station, the Crawford pegboard hooks take up too much space (as seen on top right)

Added a shelf to slide everything in and out much smoother 867815371590b209b02383e7a270dc27.jpg
That looks pretty good. You did well with the pegboard. I have my pegboard installed and been using for a couple years now, but I've gotten it to the point where it needs a reorganization. Between use and adding tools, it's a bit out of order. How did you attach your wood slot for the drivers to the pegboard. Did you just straight mount it to furring strips?

Edit: nvm, I see the 45* bracket on each end at the vertical wood strip.
 
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Same. I'm into Dewalt 20v with three of their impacts and a drill, but I picked up Milwaukee's 3" M12 cutting tool so I'm rocking both now. I wisj Dewalt had a cutting tool to compete with the Milwaukee but they don't and so it goes.







That looks pretty good. You did well with the pegboard. I have my pegboard installed and been using for a couple years now, but I've gotten it to the point where it needs a reorganization. Between use and adding tools, it's a bit out of order. How did you attach your wood slot for the drivers to the pegboard. Did you just straight mount it to furring strips?
The workbench itself is on rollers, just a rolling cabinet I found on marketplace

The pegboard is supported by 2x4s that run up each side (on the back), then I framed the front of the pegboard with the 1x2 clear pine you can see in the photo, I lost 3.5" of usage because the 2x4 is flush against the pegboard in the back, id like to fix that one day

The shelf itself is 3/4 ply, with an aluminum c-channel across the back for extra strength

It is held up by the white shelf brackets on the side, that go through the 1x2 and into the main 2x4s mounted to the cabinet

There is 1 pegboard hook in the center to help with sag, it's quite abit of weight

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Just ordered the DCF890M2 kit. Should here Tuesday. Amazon has it $43 cheaper than Home Depot right now, which is the only place that has it in stock near me.

Thought about just grabbing the tool for $157 but it works out to be 2 4AH and another charger for another $143 which really isn’t that bad.
DEWALT 20V MAX XR Cordless Impact Wrench Kit, 3/8-Inch (DCF890M2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MXGOGJ7/?tag=atomicindus08-20
 

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Just ordered the DCF890M2 kit. Should here Tuesday. Amazon has it $43 cheaper than Home Depot right now, which is the only place that has it in stock near me.

Thought about just grabbing the tool for $157 but it works out to be 2 4AH and another charger for another $143 which really isn’t that bad.
DEWALT 20V MAX XR Cordless Impact Wrench Kit, 3/8-Inch (DCF890M2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MXGOGJ7/?tag=atomicindus08-20
If you can find a deal on a dcf887 the anvil to convert it from 1/4" bit to 3/8 socket is about 25$ and 20 minutes on the workbench

You also gain the 3 speed limit switch
 

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If you can find a deal on a dcf887 the anvil to convert it from 1/4" bit to 3/8 socket is about 25$ and 20 minutes on the workbench

You also gain the 3 speed limit switch
Does it have as much torque though? I have both and though I realize there are some losses in the hex to square adapter, the impact driver won't break the luguts on my pickup but the 3/8 impact wrench has no problem.
 

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I am struggling to pick between the Dewalt dcf890 and the Milwaukee 2554.

The Milwaukee has a lot more advertised torque and seems to win most of the Internet video shootouts, but the ergonomics of the Dewalt are far superior.

Plus, I have plenty of Dewalt batteries, and only one low capacity Milwaukee 12v, so beefing up my Milwaukee battery supply would be costly...

Decisions, decisions!
 

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I am struggling to pick between the Dewalt dcf890 and the Milwaukee 2554.

The Milwaukee has a lot more advertised torque and seems to win most of the Internet video shootouts, but the ergonomics of the Dewalt are far superior.

Plus, I have plenty of Dewalt batteries, and only one low capacity Milwaukee 12v, so beefing up my Milwaukee battery supply would be costly...

Decisions, decisions!

I have both platforms as well and would definitely get the Milwaukee. Grab just one 4ah and you'll be in business
 

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I have both platforms as well and would definitely get the Milwaukee. Grab just one 4ah and you'll be in business
I have both platforms and I own both tools, and I wouldn't be so quick to get the Milwaukee.

I'm not aware of a shootout between these two tools anywhere by the way. They're all actually comparing the 12v Milwaukee vs the 12v dewalt. This 20v dewalt, while not much bigger is actually more powerful in my experience and waaaaay more comfortable in the hand.
 

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Does it have as much torque though? I have both and though I realize there are some losses in the hex to square adapter, the impact driver won't break the luguts on my pickup but the 3/8 impact wrench has no problem.
It has the same amount of torque, they are both rated at 150 ft lbs, technically the DCF887 is ~152 whereas the 890 just says 150 but there's way to many variables for 2ft lbs of difference

They are the exact same tool, extra switch and different output chuck, but the hammer, anvil, and motor are all the same. There might be some gearing differences as their max rpm's are different but the 887 conversion hits just as hard to me, never tried either on a lug nut, I have an 894 and 899 I use for that

There is a ton of loss in an adapter, not to mention it adds a little length. I still use one when I'm on the fly by if my 3/8 is around I'll grab it
 

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It has the same amount of torque, they are both rated at 150 ft lbs, technically the DCF887 is ~152 whereas the 890 just says 150 but there's way to many variables for 2ft lbs of difference

They are the exact same tool, extra switch and different output chuck, but the hammer, anvil, and motor are all the same. There might be some gearing differences as their max rpm's are different but the 887 conversion hits just as hard to me, never tried either on a lug nut, I have an 894 and 899 I use for that

There is a ton of loss in an adapter, not to mention it adds a little length. I still use one when I'm on the fly by if my 3/8 is around I'll grab it

I wouldn’t have guessed that it’s the same exact tool, just a different output chuck. You would think Dewalt would want their 3/8” impact to have a torque rating somewhere between the torque of the 1/4” and the 1/2”, maybe something around 250ft-lbs, that would compete with something like the Milwaukee 2554-20 or 2854-20. Are they just hoping that if you need more torque, you spend the money on the mid power 1/2” impact, the DCF894B.
 

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I have both platforms and I own both tools, and I wouldn't be so quick to get the Milwaukee.

I'm not aware of a shootout between these two tools anywhere by the way. They're all actually comparing the 12v Milwaukee vs the 12v dewalt. This 20v dewalt, while not much bigger is actually more powerful in my experience and waaaaay more comfortable in the hand.

The m12 is so much smaller that it is no contest, IMO. If you can fit the Dewalt, you can fit an impact with some real power
 

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I wouldn’t have guessed that it’s the same exact tool, just a different output chuck. You would think Dewalt would want their 3/8” impact to have a torque rating somewhere between the torque of the 1/4” and the 1/2”, maybe something around 250ft-lbs, that would compete with something like the Milwaukee 2554-20 or 2854-20. Are they just hoping that if you need more torque, you spend the money on the mid power 1/2” impact, the DCF894B.

Yeah I believe the 894 was released far before the mid range 18v milwaukee competition, but milwaukee has taken the lead since then for sure as far as variety

M12 has dominated the mechanic, plumbing, and electrical market for awhile now as well, and m18 fuel has really pumped the cordless impact lineup

DeWalt leaned towards their carpentry tools it seems, the FlexVolt miter and rear handle saw were the first to compete with corded varieties
 

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The m12 is so much smaller that it is no contest, IMO. If you can fit the Dewalt, you can fit an impact with some real power
You're exaggerating the size difference. The stubby is about 3/4 of an inch shorter front to back but it's also wider and taller than the Dewalt with anything other than a CP2.0. It would take another 1/2" in length to fit an M18 mid torque.

It also simply does not outperform the Dewalt like the advertised numbers suggest it should. It rattles considerably longer to remove a lug nut. I realize that's not scientific but it's the measure I have and like I mentioned, I still cannot find a comparison online where anyone has actually measured them side by side.

Remember, I don't have a dog in this fight, or rather, I have both dogs in the fight. I like both tools but the poster I responded to is already invested in the Dewalt 20v system and in my opinion, this is not the M12 tool that should make you take the leap when there's a very competitive 20v option.
 

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Yeah I believe the 894 was released far before the mid range 18v milwaukee competition, but milwaukee has taken the lead since then for sure as far as variety

M12 has dominated the mechanic, plumbing, and electrical market for awhile now as well, and m18 fuel has really pumped the cordless impact lineup

DeWalt leaned towards their carpentry tools it seems, the FlexVolt miter and rear handle saw were the first to compete with corded varieties

Yeah I really wish Dewalt would try and compete with Milwaukee more on the mechanic, plumbing and electrical market. Don’t get me wrong, Dewalt has some great stuff and quite a few cordless tools, but they’re only up to 80 I believe whereas Milwaukee is up to like 200 or something, at least that’s what I read. I just wish Dewalt had more variety.
 

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The workbench itself is on rollers, just a rolling cabinet I found on marketplace

The pegboard is supported by 2x4s that run up each side (on the back), then I framed the front of the pegboard with the 1x2 clear pine you can see in the photo, I lost 3.5" of usage because the 2x4 is flush against the pegboard in the back, id like to fix that one day

The shelf itself is 3/4 ply, with an aluminum c-channel across the back for extra strength

It is held up by the white shelf brackets on the side, that go through the 1x2 and into the main 2x4s mounted to the cabinet

There is 1 pegboard hook in the center to help with sag, it's quite abit of weight

I have another bench setup like this and a wall of hammers/saws 0a7665ef6010c2327ef262624b1c90a0.jpgb484ac89d6588c066ad122a43c5b578a.jpg
Great description thanks. I've got some scrap materials here that would work for a project like that.


I am struggling to pick between the Dewalt dcf890 and the Milwaukee 2554.

The Milwaukee has a lot more advertised torque and seems to win most of the Internet video shootouts, but the ergonomics of the Dewalt are far superior.

Plus, I have plenty of Dewalt batteries, and only one low capacity Milwaukee 12v, so beefing up my Milwaukee battery supply would be costly...

Decisions, decisions!
In that case, I'd skip the 890 and go straight to the 894, which is actually what I did. The 885 I have have is a little madman but I had a gap to fill between it and the 899. I went with the 894 since it's size is comparable to the 890, and for impact socket drive consolidation. I didn't want to spend $ on two sets, a 3/8" and a 1/2", and I did not want to have to utilize an adapter. Since you already have the batteries and charger, just grab the tool only and be on your way. The 890 is great for suspension/maintenance work on the truck.
 

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Great description thanks. I've got some scrap materials here that would work for a project like that.



In that case, I'd skip the 890 and go straight to the 894, which is actually what I did. The 885 I have have is a little madman but I had a gap to fill between it and the 899. I went with the 894 since it's size is comparable to the 890, and for impact socket drive consolidation. I didn't want to spend $ on two sets, a 3/8" and a 1/2", and I did not want to have to utilize an adapter. Since you already have the batteries and charger, just grab the tool only and be on your way. The 890 is great for suspension/maintenance work on the truck.

I already have a Milwaukee 2863 to cover the big stuff, along with a couple of air impacts.

The thing I don’t have is a relatively compact 3/8” drive, with adequate torque. Something like the Dewalt 890, or the Milwaukee 2554. The Milwaukee outperforms, but the Dewalt seems to offer superior ergonomics......

Dewalt could be bare tool, but I would need additional 12v Milwaukee batteries, which favors the Dewalt from a cost standpoint. Will the 890 do the job, is the question.

I see it’s down to $139 on Amazon now. Was $199, I think, at HD a couple of days ago.
 

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I already have a Milwaukee 2863 to cover the big stuff, along with a couple of air impacts.

The thing I don’t have is a relatively compact 3/8” drive, with adequate torque. Something like the Dewalt 890, or the Milwaukee 2554. The Milwaukee outperforms, but the Dewalt seems to offer superior ergonomics......

Dewalt could be bare tool, but I would need additional 12v Milwaukee batteries, which favors the Dewalt from a cost standpoint. Will the 890 do the job, is the question.

I see it’s down to $139 on Amazon now. Was $199, I think, at HD a couple of days ago.

I have the dewalt dcf883 3/8 impact and the dcf894 1/2 impact and they both feel pretty low on power, however seem fine for rather small applications. I have the dcf899 as well which is pretty awesome just heavy. Wish I had the milwaukee impact lineup but don't feel like switching or adding platforms.
 

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finn said:
I already have a Milwaukee 2863 to cover the big stuff, along with a couple of air impacts.

The thing I don’t have is a relatively compact 3/8” drive, with adequate torque. Something like the Dewalt 890, or the Milwaukee 2554. The Milwaukee outperforms, but the Dewalt seems to offer superior ergonomics......

Dewalt could be bare tool, but I would need additional 12v Milwaukee batteries, which favors the Dewalt from a cost standpoint. Will the 890 do the job, is the question.

I see it’s down to $139 on Amazon now. Was $199, I think, at HD a couple of days ago.

The new M18 2854 compact impact seems to basically be a 18v version of the M12 2554 stubby.

M18 should have better ergonomics than the M12 stubby and you should already have batts to use your 2863
 

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can you replace the 3/8 anvil on the 890 impact with the 1/2 anvil? If so, any info on how to do it along with the 1/2 PN would be appreciated. I already have multiple 1/2" air impacts and only use this for light duty.
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I already have a Milwaukee 2863 to cover the big stuff, along with a couple of air impacts.

The thing I don’t have is a relatively compact 3/8” drive, with adequate torque. Something like the Dewalt 890, or the Milwaukee 2554. The Milwaukee outperforms, but the Dewalt seems to offer superior ergonomics......

Dewalt could be bare tool, but I would need additional 12v Milwaukee batteries, which favors the Dewalt from a cost standpoint. Will the 890 do the job, is the question.

I see it’s down to $139 on Amazon now. Was $199, I think, at HD a couple of days ago.

Uh yeah, that's why I'm saying grab the mid torque 1/2" drive 894. It's pretty much the same size as the 3/8" 890 but with adequate torque for 3/8" jobs. And if you already have the 1/2" impacts, you're set.

ETA: I get what you're saying though. Might just have to jump in and pick something to try out.
 
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You'll enjoy it. I didn't realize how often I use the hex to 3/8 square adapter until I got both. It's nice for rapid assembly/disassembly jobs to have a phillips in the impact driver and a socket on the impact wrench.
 

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Question regarding the the DCF890 - My car has a front caliper bracket bolt, 17mm head, that's kind of a pain to remove. It's in a spot where I can't get a 1/2" drive socket on, even a wobble socket. So it's either use a wrench or a 3/8" socket. The torque spec is, I think, 100 ft-lbs and it has red loctite.

Does anyone think the 890 would get a bolt like that loose? Even if I have to let it rattle for a little while? My gut says no but maybe someone has experience with something similar.
 
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You'll enjoy it. I didn't realize how often I use the hex to 3/8 square adapter until I got both. It's nice for rapid assembly/disassembly jobs to have a phillips in the impact driver and a socket on the impact wrench.

Yeah one thing I’m realizing from using it tonight is that I’m not used to a friction ring on the anvil, I’ve always had a ball detent. Not sure if it’s cause of the sockets which weren’t impact sockets, but they seemed to come off really really easy, easier than expected. When I have time, I’m gonna try all my different brands of 3/8 drive sockets to see if it’s just because of the brand I’m using and their tolerances.
 

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Question regarding the the DCD890 - My car has a front caliper bracket bolt, 17mm head, that's kind of a pain to remove. It's in a spot where I can't get a 1/2" drive socket on, even a wobble socket. So it's either use a wrench or a 3/8" socket. The torque spec is, I think, 100 ft-lbs and it has red loctite.

Does anyone think the 890 would get a bolt like that loose? Even if I have to let it rattle for a little while? My gut says no but maybe someone has experience with something similar.
Absolutely. I've been trying to tell folks that the 890 way outperforms it's rating but it's fallen on deaf ears.

Here's a video of me loosening 3 rusty 1/2" bolts torqued to 100 ft/lbs.

 

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Yeah one thing I’m realizing from using it tonight is that I’m not used to a friction ring on the anvil, I’ve always had a ball detent. Not sure if it’s cause of the sockets which weren’t impact sockets, but they seemed to come off really really easy, easier than expected. When I have time, I’m gonna try all my different brands of 3/8 drive sockets to see if it’s just because of the brand I’m using and their tolerances.
It is the style of the sockets unfortunately, I never prefer the hog ring anvil but theres no other option for 3/8

I picked up the makita e-01672 and the matching imperial set (20$ for the combo on black friday) and they actually lock into the hog ring

Everything else I have slips forward, husky, craftsman, mac, and harbor freight
 

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It is the style of the sockets unfortunately, I never prefer the hog ring anvil but theres no other option for 3/8

I picked up the makita e-01672 and the matching imperial set (20$ for the combo on black friday) and they actually lock into the hog ring

Everything else I have slips forward, husky, craftsman, mac, and harbor freight

Of course I looked up Makita 3/8 drive impact socket sets after seeing this and they're OOS everywhere
 

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Of course I looked up Makita 3/8 drive impact socket sets after seeing this and they're OOS everywhere
If you're just in the market for 3/8 drive impact sockets, there's a lot of really good, affordable options out there. That's one of the best parts about 3/8 impact sockets. The brands frequently recommended here are sunnex, tekton, and grey pneumatic.

I have the GP 3/8 duo socket set which is quite complete (metric and sae, standard and deep, up to 22mm/1") and it's about $175. If you don't need all those, you can spend even less.
 

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If you're just in the market for 3/8 drive impact sockets, there's a lot of really good, affordable options out there. That's one of the best parts about 3/8 impact sockets. The brands frequently recommended here are sunnex, tekton, and grey pneumatic.

I have the GP 3/8 duo socket set which is quite complete (metric and sae, standard and deep, up to 22mm/1") and it's about $175. If you don't need all those, you can spend even less.

Oh, yeah I know there's plenty out there. I'm just trying to find something that fits tightly on the DCF890. My current sockets aren't tight on the hog ring.
 

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Yeah I really wish Dewalt would try and compete with Milwaukee more on the mechanic, plumbing and electrical market. Don’t get me wrong, Dewalt has some great stuff and quite a few cordless tools, but they’re only up to 80 I believe whereas Milwaukee is up to like 200 or something, at least that’s what I read. I just wish Dewalt had more variety.

DeWalt has 220+ 20v Tools...
 

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Question regarding the the DCF890 - My car has a front caliper bracket bolt, 17mm head, that's kind of a pain to remove. It's in a spot where I can't get a 1/2" drive socket on, even a wobble socket. So it's either use a wrench or a 3/8" socket. The torque spec is, I think, 100 ft-lbs and it has red loctite.

Does anyone think the 890 would get a bolt like that loose? Even if I have to let it rattle for a little while? My gut says no but maybe someone has experience with something similar.

Probably will remove it easily lol
 

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Question regarding the the DCF890 - My car has a front caliper bracket bolt, 17mm head, that's kind of a pain to remove. It's in a spot where I can't get a 1/2" drive socket on, even a wobble socket. So it's either use a wrench or a 3/8" socket. The torque spec is, I think, 100 ft-lbs and it has red loctite.

Does anyone think the 890 would get a bolt like that loose? Even if I have to let it rattle for a little while? My gut says no but maybe someone has experience with something similar.

It might, but if you need a wobble I doubt it. I know my 894 won’t loosen the caliper bracket bolts on my Silverado that have lock tight. I forget the torque spec but I think it’s 170. I had to use a wobble extension so it wasn’t happening with the mid torque. I used my Hf earthquake and had zero issues.
 

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It's on all of their bigger boxes. At least recently they had more 20v than there are M18.

I would also argue DeWalt makes (and sells) a heck of a lot more corded shop tools.

Now that I can believe. I grew up using corded Dewalt almost exclusively. It was pretty much the preferred brand of every general contractor, my dad included.
 
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