PugetDude
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I KNOW.... might just have to make a trip over there with a roto hammer and a box of Tapcons...
Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT The "Glendora Garage"
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Workspaces sized between 265 and 485 squarefeet.
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Dan in Pasadena
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Just to get the bad taste out of my mouth over the schit I'm getting for my BEEOOOTIFUL gazebo job (lol) I will post an engine shot of the '55.I never tire of seeing your '55!
It's a 6.0 LS with mild cam. It and the 4l85e trans came out of an Isuzu delivery van with 81,000 miles. But we rebuilt it anyway. Light cylinder hone to break any glaze, new rings, rod, main & cam bearings. Moved the coil packs down to the frame rails and with Delmo adapters and SBC-like finned aluminum valve covers on it for the old traditional look. But of course anyone who knows anything knows it is not an old small block. Exhaust is Corvette Z06 manifolds instead of headers. I didn't want the noise or the extra heat in the engine compartment. We cleaned up the manifolds a bit by grinding. They flow well to over 500hp - which I am sure I do NOT have but I never put it on a dyno. Stock this engine supposedly makes 340 - 360 hp. I'm guessing it maybe makes in the 375-ish range. WAAY more than plenty for such a light weight truck. So light weight you can't put the power on the ground anyway. Well, maybe if I put 500 lbs of something in the bed. All firewall holes were welded shut. We stopped counting after 50 of them! Routed AC hoses in the passenger side wheel well, battery is behind driver's seat and I swore I wouldn't spend the extra but bought the polished stainless hood hinges for the extra bling. I don't drive this truck early enough but it was a lifetime dream to have it. Was thinking just how I'd do it from my early 30's.
I forgot to mention the rearend is a limited slip Ford 8.8 re-drilled to the Chevy 5x4.75 pattern. 4 wheel power disc brakes, IFS is Corvette components on a crossmember by Flat Out Engineering.
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Bob Heine
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Dan, I fell in love with '55 Chevy pickups when I saw my first Cameo when we were in California in the summer of '55. When quad headlights became the rage in '58, I thought the Apache was the cat's meow. In my dotage, a '55 stepside is my true love. GM's 1958 Chromageddon lineup has become my least favorite.
Your '55 preserves the best of the original and adds the stance and sound of a classic street rod. Color me green with envy.
Your '55 preserves the best of the original and adds the stance and sound of a classic street rod. Color me green with envy.
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Dan in Pasadena
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Hi Bob! (Apologies in advance to everyone else for writing a novel here, ha ha)
I'm sure I've mentioned it before: My dad bought the ONLY new car of his lifetime - a black two door hardtop '55 Chevy with the orange/red & cream two tone interior to bring home his just born son (me) from the hospital. He ordered it with the 235 straight six and overdrive because he didn't think the new 265 small block V8 would amount to much, ha ha. He gave me the car to drive when I was 16 but I didn't want it because I am mentally defective. I wanted a '66 Chevy van - which I bought for $750 - that had been rolled. We fixed it completely and it was once in HotRod magazine - by accident in a group shot. I have a bad picture of it somewhere but I did find a pic of an IDENTICAL van online (possibly the same one??).
I went to the DMV years ago looking to find my dad's '55. I know the license number from when he sold it. I had gone through the suspension in high school auto shop - new A frame bushings, new ball joints, new shocks, replaced the reduced-to-near-dust needle roller bearings in the drive shaft pinions. Was running truly great. My dad claimed better than it rode from the dealership. Get this: He sold it for $450 from an ad in the local fish wrapper. Still KILLS me to relate that story. Anyway, I wanted a '55 car when I bought this truck but by then a complete running non-rust bucket one was $10,000. I got this truck for $4600 and got criticized for paying too much! I STILL want a '55 hardtop but the chances are slim to none. It's probably the only car I'd give up this truck for. If I ever sell it -and I have been thinking of it - I doubt I'll buy another project.
I would have loved to have a Cameo. I found someone selling the fiberglass bed sides some years ago after I'd finished this truck for $3,000. They were in rough shape but I was going to get them until I found NONE of the unique chrome pieces for Cameos is reproduced. Maybe it is now? Anyway, finding those pieces would have taken forever with no assurance of finding them and I'd just finished the cosmetics on this truck so I let the bedsides pass. Kinda regret it now.
I'm sure I've mentioned it before: My dad bought the ONLY new car of his lifetime - a black two door hardtop '55 Chevy with the orange/red & cream two tone interior to bring home his just born son (me) from the hospital. He ordered it with the 235 straight six and overdrive because he didn't think the new 265 small block V8 would amount to much, ha ha. He gave me the car to drive when I was 16 but I didn't want it because I am mentally defective. I wanted a '66 Chevy van - which I bought for $750 - that had been rolled. We fixed it completely and it was once in HotRod magazine - by accident in a group shot. I have a bad picture of it somewhere but I did find a pic of an IDENTICAL van online (possibly the same one??).
I went to the DMV years ago looking to find my dad's '55. I know the license number from when he sold it. I had gone through the suspension in high school auto shop - new A frame bushings, new ball joints, new shocks, replaced the reduced-to-near-dust needle roller bearings in the drive shaft pinions. Was running truly great. My dad claimed better than it rode from the dealership. Get this: He sold it for $450 from an ad in the local fish wrapper. Still KILLS me to relate that story. Anyway, I wanted a '55 car when I bought this truck but by then a complete running non-rust bucket one was $10,000. I got this truck for $4600 and got criticized for paying too much! I STILL want a '55 hardtop but the chances are slim to none. It's probably the only car I'd give up this truck for. If I ever sell it -and I have been thinking of it - I doubt I'll buy another project.
I would have loved to have a Cameo. I found someone selling the fiberglass bed sides some years ago after I'd finished this truck for $3,000. They were in rough shape but I was going to get them until I found NONE of the unique chrome pieces for Cameos is reproduced. Maybe it is now? Anyway, finding those pieces would have taken forever with no assurance of finding them and I'd just finished the cosmetics on this truck so I let the bedsides pass. Kinda regret it now.
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Dan in Pasadena
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Going off on a tangent a bit here - you know same as usual from me! Lol
MLB NLCS begins tonight with my beloved Dodgers vs. Mets. Both teams are Cinderella teams to a degree. Mets were expected to have a very poor season and it was looking that way before the All Star break. After that they have been very hot despite having so-so starting pitching and a lousy bullpen. Despite all that they beat the Phillies which no one saw coming.
My Dodgers were EXPECTED to make ht World Series because they were stacked to the rafters with starting pitching and had signed Ohtani along with Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts. Then? ALL those pitchers went down to injury one after another. They barely have 3 starting pitchers now - two of whom are coming back from extended injuries and Yamamoto would have been considered a bust if not for his pitching in Game 5 of the NLDS. Flaherty - who they acquired at the trade deadline has been solid but is prone to giving up HR's. But the Dodgers bull pen has been absolutely lights out. Ohtani didn't do much in the prior series but against lesser pitching (maybe!) may put on a show.
It will be entertaining to true baseball fans. I am pulling for a Dodger vs. Yankees World Series - the absolute classic of old. That has not happened since 1981! Longer ago than some of you have been alive so maybe you don't know it is considered the classic series.
GO DODGERS!
MLB NLCS begins tonight with my beloved Dodgers vs. Mets. Both teams are Cinderella teams to a degree. Mets were expected to have a very poor season and it was looking that way before the All Star break. After that they have been very hot despite having so-so starting pitching and a lousy bullpen. Despite all that they beat the Phillies which no one saw coming.
My Dodgers were EXPECTED to make ht World Series because they were stacked to the rafters with starting pitching and had signed Ohtani along with Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts. Then? ALL those pitchers went down to injury one after another. They barely have 3 starting pitchers now - two of whom are coming back from extended injuries and Yamamoto would have been considered a bust if not for his pitching in Game 5 of the NLDS. Flaherty - who they acquired at the trade deadline has been solid but is prone to giving up HR's. But the Dodgers bull pen has been absolutely lights out. Ohtani didn't do much in the prior series but against lesser pitching (maybe!) may put on a show.
It will be entertaining to true baseball fans. I am pulling for a Dodger vs. Yankees World Series - the absolute classic of old. That has not happened since 1981! Longer ago than some of you have been alive so maybe you don't know it is considered the classic series.
GO DODGERS!
Bob Heine
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Dan, my brother was a sports fanatic and he rooted for the Yankees, Giants and Nickerbockers. Growing up in the '40s and 50's he was over the moon when the Yankees won five straight World Series (1949-53). He only knew about their four year in a row World Series from our father (1936-39) and he passed away long before the Yankees won three World Series in a row (1998-2000).
A couple of my brother's friends were dyed in the wool Dodgers fans so they really beat on my brother when they won in 1955. In one of his unkindest moments he gave back what he got when the Dodgers abandoned Brooklyn for Los Angeles.
I didn't realize the Yankees and Dodgers met in the World Series eleven times:
Dodgers–Yankees rivalry - Wikipedia
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Dan in Pasadena
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Hi Bob, Yes they went head to head a LOT in the 1940's and 50's. Using the Wildcard, then Division, then League Championship series that is used now those teams probably would have NEVER faced each other! Hell, they might have never faced ANY other team!
Dodgers uncharacteristically beat the Mets 9-0 tonight. Nice for a Dodgers fan, painful for a Mets fan. And the one thing I know for certain is that it will not happen again in this series. I was not allowing myself to think we have this, "in the bag" until 2 outs in the 9th inning! Tomorrow's game at 1PM in the afternoon out here in the West.
Dodgers uncharacteristically beat the Mets 9-0 tonight. Nice for a Dodgers fan, painful for a Mets fan. And the one thing I know for certain is that it will not happen again in this series. I was not allowing myself to think we have this, "in the bag" until 2 outs in the 9th inning! Tomorrow's game at 1PM in the afternoon out here in the West.
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Dan in Pasadena
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Just to clarify: the Dodgers did not "abandon" Brooklyn at all. They were essentially driven out over the issue of who would decide where this private enterprise would call home?
Walter O'Malley's repeatedly tried to have the City allow them to build a stadium in Brooklyn. Robert Moses, NY City "Construction Coordinator" wanted the team to move to Flushing Meadows, Queens. O'Malley wanted him to condemn some railroad property under Title 1 in Brooklyn for "public purpose". O'Malley wanted to build and run the stadium. Moses wanted the city to build and run it which of course O'Malley hated. If that had come to pass NY(really, Moses) would have decided what the stadium would be like. They'd have taken over many aspects of how the team was run. No way O'Malley was going to stand for that and I think history shows he was right.
Moses is the true villain in the Dodgers-leave-New York-for-Los Angeles story. Moses' huge ego clashed with O'Malley's desire to put the team he owned where he wanted them to be (and his equally big ego).
Interesting side note is Los Angeles was originally targeting the Washington Senators to move to LA! Wow, what a difference that would have made to history.
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Dan in Pasadena
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Fixed a flat I was about to get today. My truck told me (!) left rear tire was low on pressure. It had a short screw with a very large head stuck in it. Took it to the same shop that swapped off my damaged RR rim for a new one I bought on eBay - Post #1656. Shop was busy and I was waiting for 1PM so I could watch my Dodgers play in the NLCS.
I decided to buy a plug kit at my local AutoZone and did it myself. Haven't done one in a long time because I am lazy!
I decided to buy a plug kit at my local AutoZone and did it myself. Haven't done one in a long time because I am lazy!
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Dan in Pasadena
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Began the process of trying to rehabilitate these two plants stands and the circular "whatever".
My older sister (78) is moving for the first time in 55 years! Her husband since she was 17 years old passed in early 2022. It is amazing how much "stuff" a person gathers.
I volunteered to make these look better. She wants them white but I think that will only show rust-through sooner. I was going to (still will?)have them sandblasted and powder coated then decided it will cost more than they are worth. OTOH, Maybe they're not work the amount of work it'll take me to make them presentable and it won't last long. Anyway, she got these many many year ago at a bargain basement price but they are actually nice units. They have removable shelves that are pinned so they can't fall. The sides hinge inward for storage.
My older sister (78) is moving for the first time in 55 years! Her husband since she was 17 years old passed in early 2022. It is amazing how much "stuff" a person gathers.
I volunteered to make these look better. She wants them white but I think that will only show rust-through sooner. I was going to (still will?)have them sandblasted and powder coated then decided it will cost more than they are worth. OTOH, Maybe they're not work the amount of work it'll take me to make them presentable and it won't last long. Anyway, she got these many many year ago at a bargain basement price but they are actually nice units. They have removable shelves that are pinned so they can't fall. The sides hinge inward for storage.
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PugetDude
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Dan, I would spray them with a rust converter/encapsulator then paint with white paint/primer. They will outlast both of you ...
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Dan in Pasadena
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What name or brand rust encapsulator? There will be a LOT of waste of course. I just sanded the surface rust off today using my orbital sander but I think I'll use a fiber or wire wheel on some of the harder to get-to areas.
I was planning on using Rustoleum though I am sure there must be better products on the market. One of the bottom structural horizontal pieces is 1/2" square tube. It has a couple spots of bad cancer. I'll cut those out and weld in patches. I'm a ****** welder but I can use grinder, ha ha!
PS: Just checked Amazon for "rust encapsulator spray" and up comes Rustoleum "Rust Reformer" and also "2 in 1 Rust Reform and Seal". I only mention Rustoleum again because I can go down to Home Cheapo and get it where the Eastwood stuff listed has to be ordered and is 3 to 4x as expensive....again a lot will be wasted as overspray.
Nevermind. The 2nd Rustoleum product is "rubberized" which I don't think will work well for this purpose.
I was planning on using Rustoleum though I am sure there must be better products on the market. One of the bottom structural horizontal pieces is 1/2" square tube. It has a couple spots of bad cancer. I'll cut those out and weld in patches. I'm a ****** welder but I can use grinder, ha ha!
PS: Just checked Amazon for "rust encapsulator spray" and up comes Rustoleum "Rust Reformer" and also "2 in 1 Rust Reform and Seal". I only mention Rustoleum again because I can go down to Home Cheapo and get it where the Eastwood stuff listed has to be ordered and is 3 to 4x as expensive....again a lot will be wasted as overspray.
Nevermind. The 2nd Rustoleum product is "rubberized" which I don't think will work well for this purpose.
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PugetDude
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Here you go, Dan.,
kaymccampbell
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He may not find that. Anything with a .97 in the price is leaving stock forever.Here you go, Dan.,
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Dan in Pasadena
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So cool Thanks you guys. I went to Harbor Freight this afternoon. They only had 3 cans so I got them. But it's too cool to spray today, so mañana.
@Dan in Pasadena - If you plan on them needing a long life and want to spend a bit, look at "metallizing". We did that with our gates and porch rails before we had them powder coated - probably 15 years or more ago. Great for rust prevention.
These guys are in Anaheim - very close to Angel Stadium
Metallizing - ZincNation
These guys are in Anaheim - very close to Angel Stadium
Metallizing - ZincNation
Well, that comment aged pretty well!! (For the folks who are not baseball fans, Dodgers won Game 3 yesterday, 8-0)
But seriously, calling either the Mets or the Dodgers “Cinderella” is pretty ridiculous. Both have team payrolls in the top 5 of MLB; the Mets around $314M and the Dodgers about $240M.
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Dan in Pasadena
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I don't think "Cinderella" has anything to do with salaries in this case. I can't speak to the Mets situation other than they were widely expected to be awful...and were before the 2nd half of the season. So relatively speaking they came out of "nowhere" hence Cinderella....maybe.
But I follow the Dodgers very closely. They had a dozen top flight starting pitchers and were forecasted to win their Division. Then, EVERY one of them got badly hurt and were unable to pitch. They had to trade for 1 of their 3 post season starting pitchers and the other two are coming off very significant injuries/surgeries. They shouldn't have been able to even get to the post season much less have the best record in baseball. But they did. That's the Cinderella factor for them. For most baseball fans who know the Dodgers' pitcher's injury history. It's their bullpen that has saved them though they have gotten surprising results from those 3 starters.
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Dan in Pasadena
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Spent the day helping my older sister move from her home of 55 years! She was widowed in 2022 and has now decided to move to a townhouse walking distance from her daughter and our other sister.
Grunt *** labor. She has about 1.5 MILLION garden statues all made of concrete that we loaded into my truck with blankets ,etc to keep from chipping. Tomorrow I'll go back to paint a shallow pantry closet, fix assorted small stuff. Nothing to take pictures but still, "Garage Journal type" stuff.
Grunt *** labor. She has about 1.5 MILLION garden statues all made of concrete that we loaded into my truck with blankets ,etc to keep from chipping. Tomorrow I'll go back to paint a shallow pantry closet, fix assorted small stuff. Nothing to take pictures but still, "Garage Journal type" stuff.
turbowoodworker
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Dan, sending condolences for your loss of Fernando Valenzuela. Watched him at Chavez Ravine many times.
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Dan in Pasadena
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Thank you Rick. Very thoughtful.
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Dan in Pasadena
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Spent yet another day moving my older sister's "Stuff".
She went over to the old house this morning and realized the movers had left a LOT of stuff. The buyer of her old house gets in tomorrow so we kinda went into all-hands-on-deck mode.
I quickly rented a trailer w/ramp & sides. We ended up going back & forth twice today. This on top of the twice yesterday with THREE pickups and an SUV in addition to the mover's giant truck. This is also after she (thought) she'd gotten rid of a ton of stuff. Should have been more tons!
She went over to the old house this morning and realized the movers had left a LOT of stuff. The buyer of her old house gets in tomorrow so we kinda went into all-hands-on-deck mode.
I quickly rented a trailer w/ramp & sides. We ended up going back & forth twice today. This on top of the twice yesterday with THREE pickups and an SUV in addition to the mover's giant truck. This is also after she (thought) she'd gotten rid of a ton of stuff. Should have been more tons!
captain14
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So where is all the “extra” leftovers going? Your garage?
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Dan in Pasadena
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Oh hell no! Ha ha.
This is a townhouse. She has a one car garage and covered carport plus a small front patio and fairly spacious back patio but there’s still way too much. As she puts stuff away I think the magnitude of the issue will occur to her and she’ll get rid of a ton of it. It’s about 90% is garden “stuff” - statues, placards with sayings, and a million plants.
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Dan in Pasadena
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Found this guy under the flowers under the avocado tree. He's pretty big. Large splash of fresh blood under the rear of his body but no other bites marks or wet fur from saliva. I THINK my girl dog, Fifi grabbed him and injured him. Rats/mice typically run along walls and don't go out into open ground almost ever. That tree is in the middle of the yard so I think she didn't hold onto him and he crawled under the flowers to hide, mortally wounded.
She's never seemed to have a prey drive and my other dog, Max is too old - I THINK! - to have caught him.
Sorry little rat. If you just stay OUT of the house & garage I have no issue with you being around.
She's never seemed to have a prey drive and my other dog, Max is too old - I THINK! - to have caught him.
Sorry little rat. If you just stay OUT of the house & garage I have no issue with you being around.
PugetDude
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"Free Range Vole" is quite the delicacy in parts of China, Dan.
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Dan in Pasadena
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Isn’t a vole an entirely different critter than a rat? I don’t know if I’ve ever seen one.
In Pasadena we had Norwegian roof rats. They were huge and aggressive.
In Pasadena we had Norwegian roof rats. They were huge and aggressive.
turbowoodworker
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Dan, no expert here but bet that’s a rat. They love those SoCal citrus trees.
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Dan in Pasadena
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Had my truck oil changed today. Going out of town this weekend and I'd let it go down to an indicated 19% life remaining. I like to do it by 20-25%. By miles this is just over 6,000 since the last change.
While there I saw this electric Silverado. They've had four on the lot since late February and they are not selling. I asked why and the service writer said because they're $100,000. He said they have about 700hp which is plenty of course. And he said you can really feel the power under your foot BUT you can also feel they are super heavy. They actually weigh MORE than a 3500HD crew dually 4x4! Those weigh 8700lbs. I know what that feels like because I had a brand new one in 2008. He claims the electric Silverados weigh about 9100 lbs!
I checked it out carefully and this is a very cool looking truck. I will likely never own one because of the cost but I like how they look. Remains to be seen how good/bad they are but they have all the features you could want in them. Likely TOO MANY features:
While there I saw this electric Silverado. They've had four on the lot since late February and they are not selling. I asked why and the service writer said because they're $100,000. He said they have about 700hp which is plenty of course. And he said you can really feel the power under your foot BUT you can also feel they are super heavy. They actually weigh MORE than a 3500HD crew dually 4x4! Those weigh 8700lbs. I know what that feels like because I had a brand new one in 2008. He claims the electric Silverados weigh about 9100 lbs!
I checked it out carefully and this is a very cool looking truck. I will likely never own one because of the cost but I like how they look. Remains to be seen how good/bad they are but they have all the features you could want in them. Likely TOO MANY features:
kaymccampbell
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Looks like a Ridgeline.Had my truck oil changed today. Going out of town this weekend and I'd let it go down to an indicated 19% life remaining. I like to do it by 20-25%. By miles this is just over 6,000 since the last change.
While there I saw this electric Silverado. They've had four on the lot since late February and they are not selling. I asked why and the service writer said because they're $100,000. He said they have about 700hp which is plenty of course. And he said you can really feel the power under your foot BUT you can also feel they are super heavy. They actually weigh MORE than a 3500HD crew dually 4x4! Those weigh 8700lbs. I know what that feels like because I had a brand new one in 2008. He claims the electric Silverados weigh about 9100 lbs!
I checked it out carefully and this is a very cool looking truck. I will likely never own one because of the cost but I like how they look. Remains to be seen how good/bad they are but they have all the features you could want in them. Likely TOO MANY features:
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Dan in Pasadena
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Not to me!
kaymccampbell
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OK, then maybe an Avalanche. Same deal either way.
PugetDude
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Cognitive Dissonance, Dan.
The first generation Ridgelines had that "Avalanche" look with the tapered transition from the cab to the bed. Horrible.
The "Gen-2" Ridgelines have a traditional squared off transition and, in my opinion, look WAY better.
I had always said that when Honda made a truck, I'd buy it. When the Ridgeline came out, we looked at it, looked at each other, shook our heads, and walked off the dealers lot. No way we were buying that.
When I was looking for a truck in 2018, we looked at Toyota and Chevy - didn't care for either. I had seen a newer Ridgeline and mentioned to my wife we should look at Honda. She says "What? They're ugly. You know that!" She hadn't seen a Gen-2 and was thinking about the Gen-1. I totally agreed but told her about the new version. We went, looked, and bought.
captain14
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That’s exactly what I thought when I saw it.
Guess there’s no base model with just a R and H?
gilr
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+1 on it looking like an Avalanche, I had one when it came out in 2002, big mistake! While useful, the "piston slap" issue drove me crazy, with the dealer stating it was "normal"! Sold it and never bought another Chevy pickup again. i think it is still way to early to consider an EV of any type as development is moving so fast now that any vehicle bought today is likely to be completely obsolete in 5 to 10 years, probably less. Battery technology is likely to change rapidly and what works today will be "old" and obsolete way quicker than technology changes will bite most customers where it hurts - in the wallet. $100K for a pickup is just crazy!
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Dan in Pasadena
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EVERY electric vehicle made up to this point forward to the horizon will have development moving at lightning pace so if that is your concern it's the exact same with any cell phone or computer. Granted, they don't cost $100,000 but EV's will come waay down in price (relatively speaking) over the next decade. In fact they already have for many of them.
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Dan in Pasadena
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The sloped rear of the the cab does resemble the Avalanche and the old Ridgeline. Neither of those vehicles ever attracted me. Especially the early Avalanches with the square yards of plastic on the cab and bumpers that turned an ugly faded gray. They just looked awful.
That slanted back of this Silverado is such a tiny aspect of the overall truck. I am very impressed with its features, range and abilities. But I admit I would be worried how long they would last before all those features would become "glitchy"?
Say that I can literally hear my dad's voice coming out of my mouth. His observations about electric windows and door locks in the 1960's was, "....just another thing to go wrong."
That slanted back of this Silverado is such a tiny aspect of the overall truck. I am very impressed with its features, range and abilities. But I admit I would be worried how long they would last before all those features would become "glitchy"?
Say that I can literally hear my dad's voice coming out of my mouth. His observations about electric windows and door locks in the 1960's was, "....just another thing to go wrong."
gilr
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Yes, no different than when Henry Ford did the same by implementing the assembly line back in the day, the difference today is the technology will move way faster than back then, and customers that buy today will regret it soon enough. The likelihood that newer technology will obsolete current models and customers will be left with expensive vehicles that are no longer supported. Tesla is already seeing this happen with battery and charging technology, it is just the natural progression. It took 100 years to "perfect" the gas and diesel engines and electronics and computers have vastly improved their operation and efficiency as well as performance. The same will happen with EVs, just at a faster pace. I'm happy to sit back and watch. I was OK buying hybrids, they are a great transition to the future, and will likely be for at least the next 10 years. There are many issues to solve here, not the least of which is a grid that is woefully incapable of supporting a nation of EVs needing a charge. California will not be able to handle the load without brownouts or failures during heatwaves unless more power is made available and the power sucking cloud farms for the internet and AI are sucking all available power as one example. I can go on, but I'll get down off my pedestal. i'm not here to argue with you or anyone else, just presenting the other side of the EV equation. I for one would like to own an EV, but it seems to risky to my wallet for now.