Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT The "Glendora Garage"

[Dan in Pasadena]

Yeah, once you hit your mid fifties, you don't recover quite as fast as you did when you were younger. I used to pull 30, 40, even 50+ hour days.....

ha ha, you get the irony of this mess up when we're talking about growing older? I do this too of course.

Like they say, "the only thing worse than getting old is the only alternative"

 

[kaymccampbell]

Yeah, once you hit your mid fifties, you don't recover quite as fast as you did when you were younger. I used to pull 30, 40, even 50+ hour days and recover after a 12 hour sleep. Now, if I'm up past 10pm, I struggle the next day.

I almost miss those days, when I was able to go 120 hours with a couple catnaps, and a 12-18 hour sleep at the end. Life is so much easier now.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Ive never been able to go without sleep.

For the 30-40 years of my career in construction management I had to get up early to be at work before 7am. After I retired I thought I’d stay in the habit of getting up between 5-6am but instead I stay up very late and get up very late. I used to feel guilty about it but then I thought, “Why?!” Who the hell do I owe it to to get up early? No one.

 

[Bob Heine]

Who the hell do I owe it to to get up early?

Dan, my bedtime is 1:00 AM and I rise at 9:00. Sometimes I have to get up once in those 8 hours but it takes less than two minutes to get back to sleep. It's how I treat myself in retirement.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Dan, my bedtime is 1:00 AM and I rise at 9:00. Sometimes I have to get up once in those 8 hours but it takes less than two minutes to get back to sleep. It's how I treat myself in retirement.

Between being the crazy old guys who spend evenings talking to friend’s dogs and now this you and I are birds of a feather! I’m glad not to be the only one.

In college I’d stay up late watching **** Cavett (that REALLY ages me) but then I’d have classes by 8am but it was never a problem then.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Finally got around to doing this job today.

The worse part was getting off the creeper over and over. Age doesn't effect me much (so far, fingers crossed). Getting onto the creeper was no issue. Getting up is a whole other chore, ha ha.

Taking the factory rock rails off was a bit of a pain but then installing these NFab side steps (which I assume are Chinese?) was an issue when I found some of the supplied bolts were 12mm and some 13mm!

 

[don long]

Nice jeep Dan

 

[PugetDude]

Taking the factory rock rails off was a bit of a pain but then installing these NFab side steps (which I assume are Chinese?) was an issue when I found some of the supplied bolts were 12mm and some 13mm!

Sum Ting Wong?

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

(Apologies in advance for the ethnically insensitive joke coming)

Youtube said to remove the body-to-frame mount bolts for NFab's. These are loong bolts, about 5" and there's thread locker so it cautioned: No impact wrench or they'll snap off in the body (Ho Lee Chit!). I got 2 out but the 3rd came all the way out but just would not come the last 1/4". Spun easily but no matter how many turns it would not come out.

So I was considering cutting a slot on one mounting point to get the side step in place. Fortunately, I held it up to the truck only to find the steps DIDN'T mount to these points! I'd done that tedious work for nothing. They mount where the rock rails mount. Had to put it all back together, THEN remove a dozen bolts per side for the rock rails before mounting. Easy but just tedious, "fiddly" as our English brethren say.

 

[xtremek]

Sounds like you had some fun.............NOT!!!!! Was it worth the trouble?

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Nice jeep Dan

Thanks Don! Sorry I didn’t comment earlier. I didn’t mean for it to look like I was ignoring you. Coming out of my 2014 Denali 2500HD it has surprised me how much this truck works just fine for me. Easy to drive, a lot easier to find a place to park, has brought home regridgerators, stoves, assorted junk and I only need it to tow my 22 ft wakeboard boat a few times a year.
I MAY use it as a toad behind our Class C RV eventually - but the jury (girlfriend) is still out on that! Ha ha.

Sounds like you had some fun.............NOT!!!!! Was it worth the trouble?

I suppose. At my height I don’t need to use these steps. In fact they are slightly in my way. But my girlfriend and my granddaughters - who hung the moon as far as I’m concerned - need them so a slight inconvenience for me is well worth it to help them out. Thanks for your interest guys.

 

[xtremek]

I see the issue, and a resolution to your problem. The jeep sits way to high. You need to lower it about 12". Then the ladies would have easy access.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Like my '55? Ha, riiiight

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

This small project isn't going to win any awards but it's a lot cleaner/nicer than it was. I had used a faux stainless panel off a relative's old refrigerator as a backsplash behind my garage sink. It was ok-ish until some heavy duty degreaser I had on the counter blurped onto the panel in the heat of last summer and ruined the finish.

I lived with it awhile then decided to redo it with these cheap stick-on stainless tiles. They stick REALLY well. I wish I'd have gotten enough to go up to the bottom of the overhead cabinet. Oh well. I was going to trim out the edges with aluminum - too so I opted for wood painted silver - remember I said it's not gonna win any awards?! Had to cut one leg of this corner trim so it would sit flat on the wall. The leftover small strips I used to trim out the counter top to tiles. Now that I see these pics I can tell I need to finish the under sink area-probably with more of the same tiles, damn!

PS: Yeah, I need to paint that damn piece of wood. Try as I might the studs were just not located where I could center the Craftsman cabinet above the sink so I had to do that. 1st stud from the corner is about 3" to right of rof red cabinet, next falls in about the middle, next is too far to the left. Looks terrible.

 

[captain14]

Paint the ledger board red and find something else to hang from it besides the cabinet? Maybe a Sign or a small display case of something?

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

I've got some smaller reproduction signs but I think they'd look odd up there.

After looking at this it occurs to me I could trace the ledger board, saw cut & remove the drywall in the silhouette, re-install the board, cover it in drywall mud and kinda/sorta match the texture, repaint then reinstall the cabinet. A lot of tedious work. OR....just paint it and live with it!!

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Just measured for making a door to cover the area below the sink. Exactly 2 ft x 3ft so six of these tiles. Oh well. it'll look more finished without seeing the car wash bucket and supplies.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Also installed a short stainless shelf out in our shed. No biggie but makes the tool box top more useable as a tiny workbench. I may add a small plywood top on it and possibly some pegboard on the wall above it.

 

[LeonardY]

I didn't notice it until you brought it up.
Put peg board up on both side and fill full of stuff. You'll forget it's there.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

So are you saying I should or SHOULDN'T put up pegboard?

 

[rharman]

I would just paint that ledger board white and walk away.

Actually, I'd probably route a roundover on the edges first, then paint, then walk away...

 

[xtremek]

Wait we're trying for award winning. Heck, I just want usable and some what organized.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

I would just paint that ledger board white and walk away.

Actually, I'd probably route a roundover on the edges first, then paint, then walk away...

Actually, I’d have to empty the cabinet and remove it before I could round over the edge, paint, dry, remount and reload. PITA, but yeah I prolly should.

 

[PugetDude]

Actually, I’d have to empty the cabinet and remove it before I could round over the edge, paint, dry, remount and reload. PITA, but yeah I prolly should.

Aren’t you glad I shamed you into painting the ceiling?

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Ha! I forgot about that but you’re right. I actually AM glad I did that. Well, at least after the fact I was glad.

Currently sitting on my lazy **** on my patio watching “The Magnificent Seven” (new version - meh) waiting til I can leave for my Genius Bar appointment at the Apple Store. But I’m thinking about what I’ll do when I get home - DAMMIT! Lol

 

[kaymccampbell]

Not to be shaming you, but I'd cut the ledger to the size of the cabinet. And stick it on with a few of these where you don't have studs.

E-Z Ancor Toggle Lock 100 lbs. Philips Drywall Screws Anchors (10-Pack) 25220 - The Home Depot

Complement wall applications such as mirrors and pictures with E-Z Ancor Philips Pan Head Heavy-Duty Toggle LockSelf Drilling Drywall Anchors with Screws.

www.homedepot.com

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Not to be shaming you, but I'd cut the ledger to the size of the cabinet. And stick it on with a few of these where you don't have studs.

E-Z Ancor Toggle Lock 100 lbs. Philips Drywall Screws Anchors (10-Pack) 25220 - The Home Depot

Complement wall applications such as mirrors and pictures with E-Z Ancor Philips Pan Head Heavy-Duty Toggle LockSelf Drilling Drywall Anchors with Screws.

www.homedepot.com

If I did that I’d just not use the board. It’s not actually a ledger, the cabinet isn’t sitting on it. It was just a way to drive screws into the studs, then use factory holes to mount it to the board.
I knew hitting studs was going to be an issue so I prepared to drill new holes in the cabinet but it didn’t work out because of weird stuff spacing. Even though these kind of screws are rated to hold the weight I think I’d not feel confident. But now thinking of it I CAN hit one stud and then use a couple of these. I’ll consider it. I also priced a 2nd cabinet but it costs $140 for storage space I don’t ACTUALLY need … though it would look better. Hmmm….

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Duplicate post, sorry!

 

[kaymccampbell]

Ohhhh. I'd buy the second cabinet. It's amazing how you can find **** to stuff them.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Ohhhh. I'd buy the second cabinet. It's amazing how you can find **** to stuff them.

I JUST went out to measure. These cabinets are 28”wide. Actually about 27-7/8”. So I need 56” to accommodate 2 of them. So wouldn’t you know it the available width is 55”!!

Geez, so that’s not an option unless I do something radical like empty the cabinet to the left, disassemble it and take an inch out of it. I CAN do it - it’s just those cheapo particle board cabinets and I already took about 6 inches off the back of it 2 years go when we moved in to make it “fit” in front of the tankless water heater. I’ll think it over and likely decide spur-of-the-moment.

 

[PugetDude]

Might be better to look for two 27" wall cabinets and fill the space- or a 30" and a 24", or three 18"
H for H or a discount/overstock cabinet place

 

[LeonardY]

So are you saying I should or SHOULDN'T put up pegboard?

I'm saying put up peg board. You could get stainless or red so it would match.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Might be better to look for two 27" wall cabinets and fill the space- or a 30" and a 24", or three 18"
H for H or a discount/overstock cabinet place

I’d have to get matching cabinets. I already have two of the same Craftsman cabinets elsewhere in the garage. I have way too much OCD to even consider a different cabinet. But you did give me the idea that MAYBE I can take an inch out of the cabinets! I suppose that may be possible.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

I'm saying put up peg board. You could get stainless or red so it would match.

I already happen to have some leftover white pegboard. Just enough to do that area. I’d likely paint it red or silver.

 

[kaymccampbell]

I had a brainwave. Slice a half inch off two and weld them together.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

I had a brainwave. Slice a half inch off two and weld them together.

Good idea but too many issues. Starting with me being kinda a crappy welder! Cutting 1/2" out of each would require TWO cabinets to weld back together with tacks - tedious as hell having done a lot of it on my '55 truck project and this is even thinner sheet metal. Then grind, a little body work, then finding a matching color. I don't think color would be too hard though, just making them look right.

Still considering how to do this though. I REALLY dislike the "ledger" board showing - looks waay amateurish - even for amateurish me.

 

[PugetDude]

Move the cabinet over and fab up shelves to fit the gap; paint to match

 

[kaymccampbell]

Good idea but too many issues. Starting with me being kinda a crappy welder! Cutting 1/2" out of each would require TWO cabinets to weld back together with tacks - tedious as hell having done a lot of it on my '55 truck project and this is even thinner sheet metal. Then grind, a little body work, then finding a matching color. I don't think color would be too hard though, just making them look right.

Still considering how to do this though. I REALLY dislike the "ledger" board showing - looks waay amateurish - even for amateurish me.

Then put a piece of diamond plate pegboard up over much larger ledger boards. Then screw the cabinet to them. Then you can hang cleaning supplies, or small rodents from the pegs. Or nothing, and just let it be decorative.

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

Move the cabinet over and fab up shelves to fit the gap; paint to match

Then put a piece of diamond plate pegboard up over much larger ledger boards. Then screw the cabinet to them. Then you can hang cleaning supplies, or small rodents from the pegs. Or nothing, and just let it be decorative.

I still like the idea of a 2nd cabinet best. Still thinking it over.

 

[kaymccampbell]

You could just bolt two mismatched cabinets together, beat them until they fit, then call the resultant mess art. I've got acquaintances who live in a house like that. It's like living in the farthest back shed, the one that gets the best of the worst leftovers from renovating the others.