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Jeffh40

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Okay, not technically a garage, but close enough.

Thinking of building one over the winter for crops next year. I'm seriously tired of the deer and squirrels taking a bite out of all of the tomatoes.

Just starting this thread for input from the group. Who has them, how big? Did you stick frame it or buy a kit? Would you do it again, knowing what you know?

Rough thought was a 10'x12 or 14'. Post and beam construction with roof joists but may do rafters. The wife is insisting that it looks nice so exposed rafters may be the way to go.
 
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I built one 30 years ago and still use it. For home gardening, the usual tomatoes, cucumbers, herbs, etc.

I stick-built mine and have one long sloping side to the roof which is covered with patio-door replacement panels. Double-paned. They are available through lumber yards, etc.

Mine is about 12' x 22', as that is the space I had available. As with garages and just about anything else, I wish it were a bit larger. No matter how large you make it, eventually you'll be thinking, well, it could be larger.

Mine is attached to one end of our cottage with French doors between the greenhouse and kitchen.
 

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I recommend you try shops in your area that are replacing old wooden or metal framed windows with Vinyl; the old widows are a problem to them but wall panels to a Green House builder.
 

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Just got done with mine. Its a mix of form and function in design. Its all stick built with a post frame style construction. Wife showed me a Pinterest pic and I came up with it with a few parameters, like overall size (8x12 greenhouse 8x18 with the porch), roof pitch (12/12 for snow shedding, and I like the look) and proximity to electric and water that I had the forethought to put in this location 15 years ago. All the windows except the front are jalousie windows and the greenhouse portion of the roof ridge all opens to vent heat, which is why the ridge vent appears to be sticking up too high.

I too looked at kits, but to get the durability and design features I wanted, man the price goes up quick. I am a sucker for a project and my wife is amazingly tolerant of, well...me, so I wanted to do something nice for her. It was a family project and it was fun. I got time off from work because of COVID, so I refer to it as the COVOID CASTLE or the PANDEMIC PALACE.

Please let me know if I can help you with anything or if you have any questions
 

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Your sentiments are kind, I wish not to detract from the OP motive and request, but I wanted to help. I’ve lurked for years and rarely post, two ears and one mouth I was always told...This forum is absolutely the best I’ve ever belonged to. So thank you for the compliment and I am located in central Pa...Cumberland County.

OP, I will help however I can, I tend to complicate things while challenging myself (that’s what I tell my kids) Perhaps my view doesn't suit you, but I am so very willing to help all those that unknowingly helped me for so many years here.
 

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I look at building one for my wife as well when I finally get home for good. i'll be tracking this post. My oldest and his wife have one and they love it.

The deer at my place will leave the vegetables alone tell all else is dried up then the tomatoes will be green sticks sticking out of the ground they will even eat the green pumpkins!!!
 

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Maybe I should post more and not lurk...just lost a lengthy reply. Not sure what to expect in the winter...Central Pa weather is typically jacked up. My wife and I agreed with this project, we would try to lengthen the growing season (propane heat) but not sure, in its present state, we could overcome the **** we deal with here to have 4 season growing environment.
 
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There are a lot of things to consider with a greenhouse and like everything else here, it requires some research and balancing expense vs. benefit. Mine was skewed a bit because of my wife...she deserved the hell out of what I built because of her patience with me....because I can ****.



OP, I’m no expert, but I will help if I can.
 
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Your sentiments are kind, I wish not to detract from the OP motive and request, but I wanted to help. I’ve lurked for years and rarely post, two ears and one mouth I was always told...This forum is absolutely the best I’ve ever belonged to. So thank you for the compliment and I am located in central Pa...Cumberland County.

OP, I will help however I can, I tend to complicate things while challenging myself (that’s what I tell my kids) Perhaps my view doesn't suit you, but I am so very willing to help all those that unknowingly helped me for so many years here.


Your green house is awesome. Love it. And, you aren't detracting from my thread, you are adding to it. By all means, keep posting. Do you have any in-progress photos?

What did you use for roof and siding paneling? I think that is going to be the biggest decision. The framing is pretty easy once you know what size the panels will be.
 
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I look at building one for my wife as well when I finally get home for good. i'll be tracking this post. My oldest and his wife have one and they love it.

The deer at my place will leave the vegetables alone tell all else is dried up then the tomatoes will be green sticks sticking out of the ground they will even eat the green pumpkins!!!

Between the deer and squirrels, tomatoes don't stand much of a chance around here either. That is the reason for a greenhouse. I'm tired of putting in all of that effort just to have the wildlife eat it all.
 

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Subscribed, we've been thinking the same thing this year. We also have a lot of patio tropicals to winter over.

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When I started to build it, I committed to the framing, post spacing, roof truss design, but I wasn't quite sure what I was going to use as windows/walls. The roof is a combination of clear panels and corrugated tin over the porch. The clear panels are Tuftex panels from Lowes. They are well reviewed and were very easy to work with. A fine tooth blade in my circular saw made quick work of any trimming I needed to do. The porch roof is just the tin Lowes also sells. The biggest challenge with the roof was not any fault of the products but a side effect of my design. My roof has 6 vents, 3 on either side of the ridge. They are opened and closed in a sequence so that the roof plastic that is attached to them overlaps in a manner to prevent leaking when up or down. Getting the vents mounted and the plastic cut and attached to them so that when they are closed they line up with the rest of the roof panels was tedious.

With the sides, I had 4 feet to work with between my posts, and I started building before I really had that part figured out. I started looking for old windows, but didn't want a hodgepodge of different windows. As luck would have it, my wife asked our neighbor to keep an eye out for us and 15 minutes later, we got a call from her. She found the windows you see in the pictures 20 minutes from me and they wanted $150.00 for all 8. Fully functioning, with screens! They fit well within my 4 foot post spacing and all I needed to do was frame up the bottoms and sides of them with some dimensional lumber and some wood siding panels cut to fit.

On the back side gable end, I used more Tuftex to sheet from the header up and on the front, I got so lucky with my louvered windows and the place was really looking nice, I did breakdown and buy two conventional windows and a storm door from a construction surplus place near me for the front to keep the place looking classy. After all, I was planning to sit on that porch and enjoy a beer or two once it was all finished, I didn't want to half-*** the focal point of all my work! Again, the rest of the front gable end is covered in more Tuftex.

Having the front porch, it just made sense to run the porch decking all the way into the greenhouse itself. There are cheaper options, but this suited me and checked my form/function boxes.

I think coming up with the roof vents and a simple way to positively lock them in their open and closed positions was the biggest challenge of the whole project and required me to sit quietly on the ladder and stare at the vents until it came to me and it took a couple of versions of my solution to get it right. It was well worth it however, it gets hot in there! Thanks for everyone's interest, I'll add some Pics to this...
 

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I thought of one more thing, with my roof design, I chose to birds-mouth the trusses to the header and have a bit of a roof overhang because it looks nice and the overhang sheds the water away from the rest of the building and it creates an open soffit to help draw heat up and out the roof vents. I have come up with a temporary solution to plug them when it gets cold out, but it needs refined, just something to think about. A lot of the greenhouse kits I saw have no roof overhang/soffit at all and I didn't care for the look and wanted to ensure I could get rid of heat sufficiently...I have no regrets with that design.

Some vent pics...
 

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I thought of one more thing, with my roof design, I chose to birds-mouth the trusses to the header and have a bit of a roof overhang because it looks nice and the overhang sheds the water away from the rest of the building and it creates an open soffit to help draw heat up and out the roof vents. I have come up with a temporary solution to plug them when it gets cold out, but it needs refined, just something to think about. A lot of the greenhouse kits I saw have no roof overhang/soffit at all and I didn't care for the look and wanted to ensure I could get rid of heat sufficiently...I have no regrets with that design.

Some vent pics...

Love the contributions Wardmoto. Gives me some ideas. :beer::beer::beer:
 

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I forgot to mention that my greenhouse sits over top of limestone seams, which is why I spent the $ to finish the floor the way I did. I had an irregular surface to make level. Building a deck-type floor through the whole structure probably added close to $500.00 to the total cost.
 
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