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cheechi

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FAIL...by a wide margin. Terrible blades.
I'll expand on this. Had basically the same experience BUT my super sawzall has a longer stroke and I think I got more use out of them than most would due to that.

The metal cutting blades are not as good as Diablo or Dewalt, haven't got any Lenox in a while to compare. They do a good job, I went through probably 20 cuts in old steel pipe a while back with 1 HF blade and it's still ok. Not as good as a real hacksaw blade (it has the "S" shape many metal recip blades do) not as good as a name brand, but good enough to get some work done and not change them constantly.

Their pruning blade is identical to the Skil and others like it.
 
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I am surprised to find the "Fail" Response to this Desiccant Air Dryer. After searching high and low for an air dryer like we had at the shop I worked at for my home compressor and seeing most were priced from $150+ up to $1,000 +, I was quite pleased to find one for under $50. I bought extra Desiccant media for I believe $7. I do know these work best if you are able to mount them a few feet away from the compressor and tank allowing the air to cool a bit before it enters the unit. Also I recommend running a water/oil separator prior to the unit or I found you end up having to change the media quite often and it will absorb oil causing it to stink quite bad when you go to recharge the media (dry it) in an oven.
Also since this is a dryer and not a filter a filter is recommended post dryer to catch any media etc. that may come out of unit.
I will tell you this much I went from running a water/oil separator on my compressor and still having water spraying out of my air tools when using to being able to paint my guitars and other items with no moisture to be found and only had to change media about every 5-6 months depending on season.
I live where we have quite high humidity at times and we get a lot of rain so I feel it passed with flying colors and 90% of all my tools used 10+ CFM so it was able to dry a decent amount of air too.
As a Side not I have found that Harbor freight no longer sells these units now and I accidentally left my original at a place I was staying back east so no longer have it but just 15 minutes ago found one for sale on eBay and snatched it up as soon as I seen it. This unit has been one of the best purchases I have made tool wise.

Yeah why don't they sell that dryer now?? I need to paint and it's another thing holding me up because I can't really find a ready made dryer like that.
 

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Almost all of the needle nose vise grips from HF, fail. i've gone through quite a few pairs..they twist and bend the first few times of use, after that it's just tossing them and getting another pair
 

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Pliers are something that are hard to duplicate good and cheap. Some of the other wrenches they have mastered clones or they work to the point that you never know where they would fail.
They make a 9 inch side cutter is as near a spittin image as well as a 8 **** to the real deal but the cutting edges don't last especially if you are an abuser. Cutting hardened screws is usually the enemy, I try not to so much with better tools these days but it happens.
I use a couple here and there where there is exposure to loss or damage, they were worth the 6 or 7 dollars for service we got a couple years from kicking around golf carts and tractors.
 

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Just bought a HF 20ton press for 135 + tax yesterday.. on sale for 179.99 and use a 25% off.. For that price it is a pass to me.
 

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Just put mine together last night :thumbup::thumbup:

I'm already contemplating the press brake kit from Swagoffroad.com. $140 shipped is a sweet deal!

Do you have a link to the specific press brake kit?
 

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http://www.harborfreight.com/10-inch-sliding-compound-miter-saw-98199.html

10 In. Sliding Compound Miter Saw - Item#98199

I got it a week ago, checked everything with a square, adjusted a couple of the knobs, and broke it in gently with no load on the motor the way I do all new power tools.

In one week, it's made over three hundred cuts: about 200 pine, 100 white oak, and a few poplar. That's a real crash course.

I have no complaints. It has enough power for the work and the angles are accurate. The blade isn't anything fancy, but it's still making clean cuts after being ridden hard. Everything on it works exactly as it should...except the dust collection; but, hey...show me a tool with a stupid little bag hanging off the back that really does do a good job of it and it'll be the first one I've ever seen.

I bought the one year warranty with it. It was $19.99, I think. The two year costs $35 or something like that. The way the manager explained it is that even if I'm carrying the thing up a ladder and drop it, I get a new one. Even with signs on abuse, I get a new one. Works for me.

PASS

CONCUR ........... have one for 4 months now and it's done everything I've asked. If it's still going strong after a few more months I'll make a serious upgrade on the blade (Forest ChopMaster).
 

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Green color punch and chisel kit. Major pass! Struck the large punch with a 25lb sledge about 40 times. Zero issues.
 

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MAJOR FAIL
The red 1/2" Composite Air Impact Wrench # 66886
http://www.harborfreight.com/air-to...f-inch-composite-air-impact-wrench-66886.html

I got this as a gift a few months back and I haven't used it until yesterday. I put the air fitting into the bottom, stuck a socket on, hooked up the air line, and tried to remove a lug nut on my truck. I was shocked at the lack of power it had. I thought maybe my regulator was just turned way down on my compressor but it was set at 100psi. My 14.4v drill has more power. I could stop it spinning with my bare hand. I went as far as to take it apart and see if something was obviously wrong... Nope its just a **** tool.
 

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MAJOR FAIL
The red 1/2" Composite Air Impact Wrench # 66886
http://www.harborfreight.com/air-to...f-inch-composite-air-impact-wrench-66886.html

I got this as a gift a few months back and I haven't used it until yesterday. I put the air fitting into the bottom, stuck a socket on, hooked up the air line, and tried to remove a lug nut on my truck. I was shocked at the lack of power it had. I thought maybe my regulator was just turned way down on my compressor but it was set at 100psi. My 14.4v drill has more power. I could stop it spinning with my bare hand. I went as far as to take it apart and see if something was obviously wrong... Nope its just a **** tool.

"up to 230 ft lbs of torque"

i've looked at those in my HF but did not purchase

was it a loved one that got it for you as a gift
 

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MAJOR FAIL
The red 1/2" Composite Air Impact Wrench # 66886
http://www.harborfreight.com/air-to...f-inch-composite-air-impact-wrench-66886.html

I got this as a gift a few months back and I haven't used it until yesterday. I put the air fitting into the bottom, stuck a socket on, hooked up the air line, and tried to remove a lug nut on my truck. I was shocked at the lack of power it had. I thought maybe my regulator was just turned way down on my compressor but it was set at 100psi. My 14.4v drill has more power. I could stop it spinning with my bare hand. I went as far as to take it apart and see if something was obviously wrong... Nope its just a **** tool.

Sid,
If you still have this and want a contact with HF customer service that will probably swap it out for you, shoot me a PM. I have the same impact and it's a darn good gun. Sounds like you got a dud.

Wes
 

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MAJOR FAIL
The red 1/2" Composite Air Impact Wrench # 66886
http://www.harborfreight.com/air-to...f-inch-composite-air-impact-wrench-66886.html

I got this as a gift a few months back and I haven't used it until yesterday. I put the air fitting into the bottom, stuck a socket on, hooked up the air line, and tried to remove a lug nut on my truck. I was shocked at the lack of power it had. I thought maybe my regulator was just turned way down on my compressor but it was set at 100psi. My 14.4v drill has more power. I could stop it spinning with my bare hand. I went as far as to take it apart and see if something was obviously wrong... Nope its just a **** tool.

What kind of fitting did you use? I've used a few different impacts on my compressor and none of them worked properly until I switched to a high flow fitting. With a standard fitting, I could stop all of them from spinning with my hand.
 

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"up to 230 ft lbs of torque"
was it a loved one that got it for you as a gift
I don't remember exactly who got it for me but it might have been my mom or sister. It was a birthday gift back in January.
Sid,
If you still have this and want a contact with HF customer service that will probably swap it out for you, shoot me a PM. I have the same impact and it's a darn good gun. Sounds like you got a dud.
Wes
I appreciate the offer but I tossed the gun and am over it. It leaked air out the bottom of the handle where the rollpin went through it and also where the two main body pieces came together. I might try out the earthquake impact if I get the extra money to buy it as the reviews look to be much better then this one.

What kind of fitting did you use? I've used a few different impacts on my compressor and none of them worked properly until I switched to a high flow fitting. With a standard fitting, I could stop all of them from spinning with my hand.
I have just regular fittings. Never had a problem with any other air tools but I might look into the high flow ones for an upgrade. Which ones would you recommend?
 

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... I might try out the earthquake impact if I get the extra money to buy it as the reviews look to be much better then this one.


I have just regular fittings. Never had a problem with any other air tools but I might look into the high flow ones for an upgrade. Which ones would you recommend?


Yeah, the Earthquake is fantastic. Whatever you try to turn with it is going to move or break.

I think the one you had is just doomed to be a dud -- a rating for 230 foot-pounds is pretty weak any way you slice it.

The HF air fittings are lousy, as are the identical Chinese-made air fittings you'll find almost everywhere else.

See if you can find an industrial or farm supplier with Milton brand fittings.
 

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8oz stubby ball pein hammer
Epic win, everyone made fun of me for having this tiny little thing, works awesome for stamping metal when you need alot of control.
 

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Digital Battery Analyzer

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Checks voltage, cold cranking amps (CCA), resistance and overall battery condition
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I have just regular fittings. Never had a problem with any other air tools but I might look into the high flow ones for an upgrade. Which ones would you recommend?

I use CH fittings from Tractor Supply. I think they are labeled as a "T" style. You can tell by looking at them that they are higher flow. I'd try just putting the hose directly into the impact to see if that makes a difference before spending any more money.
 

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MAJOR FAIL
The red 1/2" Composite Air Impact Wrench # 66886
http://www.harborfreight.com/air-to...f-inch-composite-air-impact-wrench-66886.html

I got this as a gift a few months back and I haven't used it until yesterday. I put the air fitting into the bottom, stuck a socket on, hooked up the air line, and tried to remove a lug nut on my truck. I was shocked at the lack of power it had. I thought maybe my regulator was just turned way down on my compressor but it was set at 100psi. My 14.4v drill has more power. I could stop it spinning with my bare hand. I went as far as to take it apart and see if something was obviously wrong... Nope its just a **** tool.

Save your money and frustration by getting their Earthquake impact guns. They are one of the rare HF gems that everyone likes. I didn't believe it until I relented and got one myself and I'm sold now.
 

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Digital Battery Analyzer



Digitally analyze the condition of your automotive battery with this easy-to-use battery analyzer. This unit checks voltage, cold cranking amps (CCA), resistance and overall battery condition and displays information on a large backlit LCD screen. The battery analyzer uses your car battery for power so no extra internal batteries are needed.

Checks voltage, cold cranking amps (CCA), resistance and overall battery condition

Continuous testing will not damage battery

Uses car battery for power, no extra internal batteries needed

Large backlit LCD screen

Covered in a soft case

Easy-to-carry and durable design





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I have this one. I would not call it a pass. I would also not call it a total fail either. I lean more to fail. It is not very accurate.
 

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Cen-Tech 7 Function Multimeter #98025 PASS

Pittsburgh 3/8" drive torque wrench #00807 PASS

24" Adjustable Wrench #N/A They currently list 2 PNs, not sure which is mine PASS

Universal Tool Stand #69805 PASS

US General 4 Drawer Tool Cart #95659 PASS

Pittsburgh 3 pc Impact Wrench Adapter Set #02117 PASS

Drill Master 1/4" Trim Router #44914 FAIL (used to router letter in signs) May stand up better when used properly.

Central Machinery 36" Sheet Metal Brake #91012 PASS

Anti-fatigue Floor Mats #94635 PASS I have them in front of my lathe and milling machine in my home shop and the mat'l is standing up very well to the chips.

Haul Master 2" x 2 1/2" Trailer Coupler PASS
 

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Drill Master 1/4" Trim Router #44914 FAIL (used to router letter in signs) May stand up better when used properly.
What wood are you using with the signs? 'Trim router' doesn't mean you can't use it for any other purpose, it just means it's not intended for use in hard woods and/or for making very deep/difficult cuts.

With a good trim router, if you do some of that, you'll probably be ok but I wouldn't have an issue using my trim router with a sign template in pine, oak, or maple if I'm going say 1/4"-1/2" deep. That's all I've done personally, I know some guys like to get down with the exotics but my stuff is usually real simple. I didn't use the trim router for it but I don't foresee any issue if I were attempt to do so. My trim router is a Bosch colt 1 amp.

Just something to think about, I would say that it failed when used properly based on your description.
 

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I finally got the flooring done and the new base trim installed in the house today.

So, better review on the HF 12" Sliding Double Bevel Compound Miter Saw.

All in all I give it a definite PASS.





Setup right out of the box was simple. I installed it on a miter saw stand that I believe came from HF as well. The only thing I noticed was I should have installed some sort of washers or spacers under the saw base first, as the adjustment arm for the miter adjustments hits the edge of the stand. Other than that, I setup the saw, and right out of the box no adjustments were necessary. Mind you I dug through the pile of saws they had at the store and found the one with the least amount of damage to the box :).

Everything for the saw was assembled, all I had to do was unpack it. So assembly was extremely minimal. Blade was already attached to the saw, so technically unbox and set it up clamp it down, plug it in and its ready to go. I didn't bother leaving the dust bag on, there's absolutely no dust collection in these things at all.

Now, a bit of the working features. This saw is a 12" model, so it has the motor mounted above and behind the blade. This gives a lot more space available to cut taller materials. 3-1/2" maximum depth, as well as it gives you a 13-3/8" maximum width of cut with the sliding function. The flooring I was cutting was about 7-3/4" wide and about 1/2" thick. Without the sliding function the saw would have lacked about 1/2" of being able to cut through the material completely. This flooring being laminate is extremely hard on a saw of any type due to its density. I changed to a finer tooth blade to give better quality finished cuts and to keep from having material tear out. Combined with the fine tooth blade, and the 15amp motor, it did a great job cutting the material with very minimal tear-out which I kept on the bottom side so it wouldn't show in the finished product.

Setting up to do miter and/or bevel, or compound cuts is extremely quick and easy as well. If you take the time in the beginning to setup and adjust the saw so it is cutting square, you will find that doing any sort of miter or bevel is as simple as turning the table or tilting the blade to the proper angle on the easy to read markings. My only complaint...probably miscalculation on my part as my old saw didn't have the adjustable fence. First time I tried to cut a 45* miter the saw cut into the left side of the fence...OOOPS. I simply loosened the fence holding screw and slid the fence over, and problem solved. Just thought I'd point this out, if you do the maximum of a 45* miter you will need to slide the left fence extension out to clear the 12" blade, otherwise you may cut your fence a bit shorter ;).

For me the setup was easy, it took me about 20 minutes to get everything together and bolt the saw to my table, then I spent another 20 minutes checking all of the depth, and angle stops to be sure they were accurate. The only thing that threw me off is that the laser is aimed at the right side of the blade, but once I realized that I could get perfect cuts every time. The laser is adjustable however by loosening a couple of screws and moving the laser around until you get it set to your liking. I didn't bother with it because I don't really use the laser anyhow, just mark the board bring the blade down to check and adjust the stock. The laser on this saw isn't very bright either, so if you are working in the sun it will be absolutely no use to you anyways.

The motor seems to have plenty of power to go through any materials you throw at it. The blade that came with the saw, is not the greatest quality for fine woodworking, however its intended purpose for contractors and DIYers it works just fine, if you don't mind a little bit of sanding once in a while. Another thing, these blades from HF are heavy and have a somewhat wide kerf, so if you need a narrow kerf blade you will need to shop elsewhere. I will be picking up a different blade now that my flooring is completed.

Overall, the saw is very well built, I haven't noticed any play in the head of the saw or in the table base when you tighten the locking screw down for the angle adjustment on the table. If you don't lock that down, there's a bit of play, but nothing extreme, or anything that would bother me. If you are looking for a great DIY saw for a fraction of the cost of other brand saws, you won't regret the HF model, it does its job, and it does it very well if you take the time to set the saw up properly. My boss at the jobsite spent an hour setting up his new Dewalt DW718, in total with all my practice cuts and all, I think it was only about 20 minutes on the HF model, and it was me just being picky with the arrow pointers.

So the Chicago Electric 12 In. Double-Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw With Laser Guide System is a PASS.
 
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No wonder no one wants my Yale 1 1/2 Ton Differential Chain Hoist! If you can buy a brand new one for $50 why would anyone want my genuine American Made 70 year old model? Amazing!
 

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HF 25" 1/2" drive breaker bar

PASS

used it to undo the rear wheel bearing hub nuts in my wife's 01 Elantra

worked like a charm and those nut were on there good, 190 lb ft of torque for installation
 
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