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The Harbor Freight PASS/FAIL Thread...

supersteve

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Every time I read this thread I tend to think PASS means to pass :lol_hitti

Lol, I think I'll pass on that strut spring compressor, buying something like that at HF is like buying a parachute or a dialysis machine there. No thanks.

Maybe I will get a spring compressor there, then I can post here with my jaw wired shut and a glass eye.

"Mffffff mmm mmmpppphhhhh mmmuummpphh: mmpphassss"
 
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I borrowed a friend's Ultra Pro (sold by NAPA in Canada) pistol grip air shear today. It looks a lot like the HF #98580. Has anyone compared these 2 shears? The Ultra Pro cut 16 ga steel w/ no issues.

Not sure what to go w/ an air shear or nibbler. Pros & cons of each?

Check for a recent thread on nibbler vs shears, spoiler alert, buy both.
 

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Lol, I think I'll pass on that strut spring compressor, buying something like that at HF is like buying a parachute or a dialysis machine there. No thanks.

Maybe I will get a spring compressor there, then I can post here with my jaw wired shut and a glass eye.

"Mffffff mmm mmmpppphhhhh mmmuummpphh: mmpphassss"

My rule of thumb with HF is usually "if it potentially poses a loss of life" I pass

The design on this compressor differs little from many others so I figured it would be OK and it will with a proper graded bolt in the hinged part.

The old snap on is basically the same thing
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=972583&postcount=13
 

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HF has some gems. You just gotta avoid being a blind fanboy. That's what gets you in trouble.
 

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Here's a review I've been working for the Harbor Freight 12" Sliding Dual Compound Miter Saw. I've got the review pretty much done, but I think it needs pictures. Should I somehow take pictures of various parts of the saw in its different cutting setups, or....?

CHICAGO ELECTRIC 12” DOUBLE BEVEL SLIDING COMPOUND MITER SAW WITH LASER GUIDE – ITEM #61776 REVIEW


Value
This saw has a list price of $299.99. However, I have never seen it advertised at full list price, highest I’ve seen it has been $199.99. You can find coupons to reduce the price down to as low as $129.99. That being said, this saw is very well worth the price. It does its job pretty well compared to higher priced different brand versions. For its purpose you can’t beat the price for the DIY or home shop.

Features
This saw does come with a laser guide, however it isn’t accurate out of the box, and you will have to adjust it to your needs. Mine shines on the right side of the blade, and if you mark a line on your board the line isn’t straight with the mark, so a bit of adjustment would be necessary if you wish to use this feature. The 12” blade combined with the motor being mounted above and behind the saw gives you a 3-1/2” maximum depth of cut. This configuration also gives you a maximum crosscut up to 13-3/8”. The miter adjustment has positive stops for 0o, 15o, 22.5o, 30o, and 45o both left and right. There aren’t any stops for the bevel adjustments however. This saw has a 15amp motor which gives plenty of cutting power even in thick or dense materials.

Ease of Use
The controls are large on this saw, making adjustments and operation easy, even if you are wearing gloves. The miter and bevel markings are easy to read, making adjustments very easy. The sliding feature works very well, it is smooth with no binding. The sliding feature can be locked out if needed when you aren’t cutting wide materials. I did take the time for the purpose of the review and adjust the laser. Once you adjust the laser, it makes cutting materials fast, simply line up the material with the laser and you are ready to cut, no guessing and checking needed.

Design
Overall design makes all cutting tasks quick and easy. Adjustments are quick, markings are easy to read. The dust collection on the other hand is very poor. After 3 days of several hours of use at a time, I emptied maybe a tablespoon of dust out of the dust bag. The rest of the dust was all over the saw which actually blocked the ability to use the laser until I cleared the dust off the laser. The power switch is ambidextrous making left or right handed operation easy and comfortable. The power cord has its own storage loops for an uncluttered stored look.

Durability
This saw’s pricing leaves the overall product composition a little lacking. The plastic parts that should be metal, give this saw a bad image. Granted from the month of use I’ve put mine through so far, it hasn’t failed. However, I can see over the course of time that those parts will wear very fast, and create some play in the miter settings. Given the cost of the saw, and its intended market of the homeowner and/or DIY the saw will serve you very well. To get the saw to be lighter in weight, compromises in materials had to be made, which is exactly what you find on this saw. It’s not too bad weight wise, but some of the materials are not as heavy built as the more expensive and heavier saws. The miter locking tab is plastic so as I said it will create some play in the settings over the course of time as those plastic parts wear and/or break off.

Quality
The saw does its job, and does it quite well considering the price, and overall materials used. Given that, it will not stand up to the daily abuse of construction sites and being tossed around as many contractors do with their tools. For the intended market it will work great for a saw for home projects. The biggest quality pitfall I see is the plastic tab and locking lever for the miter stops. If that was metal, the saw would be a lot better. I can see this tab breaking off or wearing off pretty quick with normal use, even quicker if someone uses it on the contractor scale. Keep in mind, the laser is easily obscured by dust particles, so you’ll have to keep that area clean if you use the laser guide. Overall, other than the initial laser adjustments I didn’t have to adjust anything else on the saw, it was cutting accurate right out of the box.

How Often Do I Use the Product?
I bought the saw to cut laminate flooring, so for about a week 4-6 hours a day it was getting continual use. Now that the flooring job is done, I’m still using it a couple times a week for about an hour at a time when I’m working on shop projects.

What Kind of User Are You?
In my case it is weather dependent since my shop isn’t insulated, heated, or cooled. So in the summer I really don’t do much, as well as in the winter. The nicer weather in between those times, I am a weekend warrior and DIYer.

My Applications With This Product
My initial purchase was to cut laminate wood flooring. I have another miter saw but it is in my shop on the other side of the property and it is mounted in its own table system, so it wasn’t very feasible to take the cabinet and table apart to use that saw. So, I purchased this new larger capacity saw, and after doing the first cut on the laminate, I’m glad I did, I think it would have been stretching the old saw to its max trying to cut the wide planks of flooring. This saw went through it with no problem. With that project done, I’ll be using the saw for cutting crown molding once in a while, which was too wide for my old miter saw. This saw’s extra capacity makes a huge difference in the crown molding world.

Tips on Product Use/Optimization
While for my flooring project I used the OEM blade, I feel a better quality blade will really give this saw better quality finished cuts. The OEM blade did ok, but it is quite heavy, and has a wide kerf that in my case with the flooring would cause the saw to bog down a bit. A lighter weight and thin kerf blade will help alleviate a lot of the bogging down in dense materials, also cut down on waste.

Useful Accessories
I’ve had an older version of the Mobile Folding Power Tool Stand (#40612) for several years, so I mounted the new miter saw on it. This made the saw easily maneuverable around the patio while doing my floor install. This also gave me extra support for cutting the floor planks, as the stand has adjustable extensions to support extremely long work pieces which came in handy when I started cutting the baseboard trim that was in 12 foot lengths. I also picked up the 96 tooth 12” blade (#46235) for a smoother finish on the laminate flooring; however the standard blade with its 60 tooth blade did just fine.

Recommended?
Yes, I would definitely recommend this saw. It will serve a homeowner, and/or DIYer extremely well. This saw was built for the budget minded, occasional user. I believe after using it for a period of time that this saw would work great for general daily use in a home shop, or even a 2nd saw for a contractor. Once I got used to the saw and its features, I really started liking the saw even more. So, if you are in the market for a good quality saw that won’t empty your bank account this would be the way to go.
 

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44" US General tool box- PASS

1/2" extendable ratchet- PASS

3/8" and 1/2" Pittsburgh Pro impact sockets- PASS

Snap ring pliers- HUGE FAIL

Locking pliers- HUGE FAIL

Diagonal cutters- PASS

impact wobble extensions- PASS

12 ton jack stands- EPIC FAILURE.... DO NOT EVER TRUST YOU LIFE TO THEIR JACKS, JACK STANDS,PERIOD. I know a mobile mechanic who was almost killed when one broke holding up a Ford cut-away bus in the rear. He got a broken rib out of the deal, the fiberglass body panel pinned him. I've seen the bus, I've seen the broke jack stand. That thing wasn't anywhere loaded to it's so-called limit when it broke.
 
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44" US General tool box- PASS

1/2" extendable ratchet- PASS

3/8" and 1/2" Pittsburgh Pro impact sockets- PASS

Snap ring pliers- HUGE FAIL

Locking pliers- HUGE FAIL

Diagonal cutters- PASS

impact wobble extensions- PASS

How "tight" are those Pitt Pro impact sockets? Been eyeing them but am concerned they might be a little sloppy.
 

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pit pro impact sockets and swivels work great been beating on the half inch set everyday for a year with out a failure.
 

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Sweet. I've accumulated random Kobalts lately but will need a complete set eventually.
 

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How "tight" are those Pitt Pro impact sockets? Been eyeing them but am concerned they might be a little sloppy.

They work pretty well, been beating up on mine for several years at work, no failures. Also have the 3/8" and 3/4" sets , shallow and deep.
 

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That's fantastic news. My approach is usually all or nothing. And by that I mean I either super cheap out or I go whole hog with a top brand. My SUV, for example, is a Lincoln because I wanted comfort on long drives, and it gets some of the best tires available for it. But the car is just a cheap ****** wagon for hauling trash to the dump and local errands, so it gets inexpensive tires.

With tools I'll buy cheap if it's something I'll seldom use but if I reach for it often I want something better. I don't always look at the lowest price but I can't afford to go premium on everything either.

Heck even my cordless impact is seeing more use than I planned so it'll be upgraded too one of these days.

If that makes sense.
 
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Pittsburgh 4 Piece High Visibility Socket Adapter Set
Item # 67925


Picked up a set of these some months ago for a car trunk box. Used one lightly for the first time today. Snapped the drive end off like it was made of butter.

FAIL

I might try the impact version instead.

I have a cracked 3/8-1/2" adapter in my desk right now. I took a picture and sent it to HF, and they told me to warranty it, I'd need to dig up the receipt and mail the 4-pc kit back to them.

They also told me the same thing to warranty a 1/4" universal out of the 301-pc tool kit. They literally wanted me to mail them a 70-lb kit to warranty a 1-oz universal.
 

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I don't put much stock in the warranty. The only time I did so far was to return a floor jack. I was able to do that at the store, but the nearest one is 50 miles away.
 

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I have a cracked 3/8-1/2" adapter in my desk right now. I took a picture and sent it to HF, and they told me to warranty it, I'd need to dig up the receipt and mail the 4-pc kit back to them.

They also told me the same thing to warranty a 1/4" universal out of the 301-pc tool kit. They literally wanted me to mail them a 70-lb kit to warranty a 1-oz universal.

My Harbor Freight is practically next door and doesn't require receipts. Thing is, with how easily it failed, I don't want a replacement. That's why I'm just going to chalk it up as one of the risks of trying something out without getting feedback first.
 

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Pneumatic Brake Fluid Bleeder #92924

Pass. Uses a compressor to pump out the old fluid. Has a bottle to set in the master cylinder reservoir which supplies new fluid - that takes the worry out of running too low on fluid during the bleed. Made short work of a one man brake bleed.

http://www.harborfreight.com/brake-fluid-bleeder-92924.html

You're kidding right? That bleeder is a mega fail as is the ball joint separator:

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-4-quarter-inch-forged-ball-joint-separator-99849.html

Pass:
- 1/2 in. Air Impact Wrench
http://www.harborfreight.com/1-2-half-inch-pneumatic-impact-wrench-95310.html

- 3/8 in. Professional Air Ratchet
http://www.harborfreight.com/3-8-eighth-inch-professional-air-ratchet-47214.html

-3 in. High Speed Cut-Off Tool
http://www.harborfreight.com/3-inch-high-speed-air-cutter-47077.html

- 12 ton Shop Press (NOW they decide to paint them in a color other than baby sh!t orange)
http://www.harborfreight.com/12-ton-shop-press-60604.html

-MacPherson Strut Spring Compressor Set (yes they work great)
http://www.harborfreight.com/macpherson-strut-spring-compressor-set-61654.html
 

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You're kidding right? That bleeder is a mega fail as is the ball joint separator]

Interesting that you don't like the ball joint separator... I've had good experience with it on some ball joints that I couldn't pop loose with a BFH, and I know others who have had good luck as well.
 

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Interesting that you don't like the ball joint separator... I've had good experience with it on some ball joints that I couldn't pop loose with a BFH, and I know others who have had good luck as well.

I broke one clean in half and it wasn't some rust bucket that I was working on either.
 
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That impact is sold under different brand names wherever they sell $25 impacts. It is without a doubt the worst impact I have ever used.

Unless I'm missing something, they don't even rate it. That's sad.

Edit: Nevermind. Just saw 250 ft lbs. That's about what a corded electric will do. Not sure I'd bother with air if that's all I was getting.
 

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Pittsburgh Pro Composite Ratchet, 3/8 Drive - MEGA Pass! This thing is badass to the stars!
Pittsburgh Pro "Stubby" 1/4 Drive Roto Ratchet (Neon Green Handle) - Pass

Love, love, LOVE these 2 tools... now if I could only figure out how to disassemble the Roto for a proper clean and lube! :(

Good stuff... got the pair for under $15 with 20% coupons.
 

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Unless I'm missing something, they don't even rate it. That's sad.

Edit: Nevermind. Just saw 250 ft lbs. That's about what a corded electric will do. Not sure I'd bother with air if that's all I was getting.

250 is being generous. It has trouble taking lugs off that were torqued to 80lbs. I replaced mine with an earthquake and never looked back.
 

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250 is being generous. It has trouble taking lugs off that were torqued to 80lbs. I replaced mine with an earthquake and never looked back.

That's sad. Sounds like my battery impact blows that thing away. It's rated for 330 on the box. Not sure it does quite that though.

If I had air, I'd probably give that Earthquake a try. It looks convincing.

I'm more likely to go with the IR or Milwaukee cordless if I ever need more power.
 

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That's sad. Sounds like my battery impact blows that thing away. It's rated for 330 on the box. Not sure it does quite that though.

If I had air, I'd probably give that Earthquake a try. It looks convincing.
The only good thing I can say about it is it will make you really appreciate the Earthquake that you exchange it for.
 

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That impact is sold under different brand names wherever they sell $25 impacts. It is without a doubt the worst impact I have ever used.

250 is being generous. It has trouble taking lugs off that were torqued to 80lbs. I replaced mine with an earthquake and never looked back.

Good for you. I had that thing for almost 20 years and it worked just fine for home use. I also DO NOT torque my lugs with an impact wrench and if my tire guy does anything but torque them by hand he is going to get an earful.

Impact wrenches SHOULD be used for speed. All to often they are used by guys as a shortcut.
 

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Good for you. I had that thing for almost 20 years and it worked just fine for home use. I also DO NOT torque my lugs with an impact wrench and if my tire guy does anything but torque them by hand he is going to get an earful.

Impact wrenches SHOULD be used for speed. All to often they are used by guys as a shortcut.

No one said anything about torquing lugs with an impact...

Having it for 20 years..are you sure it's the same one? Some things change over time.

I've never really thought of impacts as being for speed or as a shortcut (whatever that means). I always thought of them as a way to get ridiculously tight fasteners loose without getting a hernia. If it's not that tight I'll use a ratchet.
 
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Pittsburgh Pro Composite Ratchet, 3/8 Drive - MEGA Pass! This thing is badass to the stars!
Pittsburgh Pro "Stubby" 1/4 Drive Roto Ratchet (Neon Green Handle) - Pass

Love, love, LOVE these 2 tools... now if I could only figure out how to disassemble the Roto for a proper clean and lube! :(

Good stuff... got the pair for under $15 with 20% coupons.

I've read on this forum that the roto doesn't come apart. Pour a little ATF in a glass and put the head of the ratchet in it overnight. Works like a charm on sealed heads.
 

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Air rivet guns works great. Have done several projects with it. Restored an aluminum boat a few years ago with aluminum bracing,floors and decks. Shot several hundred 1/8" aluminum rivets. Also pulls 3/16 steel rivets tight.


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Pittsburgh Pro Composite Ratchet, 3/8 Drive - MEGA Pass! This thing is badass to the stars!
Pittsburgh Pro "Stubby" 1/4 Drive Roto Ratchet (Neon Green Handle) - Pass

Love, love, LOVE these 2 tools... now if I could only figure out how to disassemble the Roto for a proper clean and lube! :(

Good stuff... got the pair for under $15 with 20% coupons.

You've spent the time to type the long, detailed name of the tools, it will be appreciated if you could have provide a link
 

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welding table earns a definite PASSing grade

this works really well....so buy it on sale with coupons...a definite pass

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packged well

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no movement when using a chop saw

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I am very pleased with this for a home shop
 
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Re: welding table earns a definite PASSing grade

this works really well....so buy it on sale with coupons...a definite pass

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packged well

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no movement when using a chop saw

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I am very pleased with this for a home shop

Looks like a great table, I've had my eyes on one for a while. I think I may use one of my 20% off coupons and get one.
 

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^^Yes it is and with a 20% off coupon that would get it to about $64 before taxes. Not too bad for a somewhat heavy duty table. Ugg, looks like another trip to HF tomorrow LOL.
 

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http://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-professional-long-nose-pliers-94384.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-professional-slip-joint-pliers-94381.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/7-inch-professional-diagonal-pliers-94383.html

8" Pro needlenose
7" Pro diagonal
8" Pro slip joint

The woman is constantly grabbing my Knipex/Channellock/Craftsman Pro pliers to do stupid **** with. They usually get shoved in a drawer or whatever around the house instead of back in the box where they belong. To prevent this from happening in the future, I bought her needlenose, slip joint, and diagonal pliers; all Pittsburgh Pro.

In the name of science, I put them all to use this weekend working on her car.

Predictably, they're nothing to fall in love over, but they're not scrap metal, either. They're all functional and surprisingly sturdy. They all pass.

Make sure you look through the selection to get pairs with matching jaws and whatnot; some of them at the store looked like they'd work, but weren't too pretty. I'd say 90% of the pairs on the rack were good enough to use, but only 10% were good enough for me to actually want to spend money on. Also, the slip joint needed lube before using.

If I had to, I'd feel ok about using the needlenose and the slip joint at work. The cutters are really just a DIY item.

For how cheap they are, if you like comfort grips, you could even buy them just to remove the grips and install on your old pliers.
 
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