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Hexen

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Anymore with harbor freight I lump their tools into different categories and view them accordingly..
Lots of moving parts? RUN AWAY FAST
Quite a few moving parts? Just run away
Some moving parts? WALK AWAY FAST
A few moving parts? Just walk away
No moving parts? Keep away from children of all ages.
Some simple rules of thumb for HF tools..
Oh yeah, DON'T trust the website reviews.. Most have at least one review telling you how to get the item(s) in question to work properly that includes a total rebuild of the product.

Sounds like you think everything they sell is a "fail", so this probably isn't the best thread for you. :p

HF does not censor their website's reviews, so in my experience if one takes the time to read through them (sorted by most recent rather than the default highest rating sort), it does provide accurate expectations.
 
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Sounds like you think everything they sell is a "fail", so this probably isn't the best thread for you. :p

The HF haters remind me of the mother of a friend who in the past would not deign to set foot in a K-mart. I always countered that by saying that if I buy a Champion spark plug, it's still a Champion spark plug even if i got it at K-mart.

Granted we are talking mostly actual HF merchandise and on that I think that the HF Haters are just lazy and don't want to actually look at what they are buying. They will probably over pay for under-quality goods if it has a "name" or from a proper, "Source" and skip a good value because it's NOT a name or from a proper, "Source".

Their loss.

To add some pass/fail value to this post, I needed a 1/2" drive 12p 14mm socket for a brake job and the only ones in a small set I could find were the impacts at HF.

Also I needed a large hex bit and the same thing happened.. impact set at HF.

Both did their jobs and were and still appear to be bullet proof.

Recently bought the mid level angle grinder for a job and also used it on a friends farm to cut electrical box holes in the corrugated metal he was installing as wainscoting in a cabin. Worked a treat.

The impact stuff I think could/would survive professional work use. I'd probably not expect the angle grinder to survive but if it's considered expendable it would add value if as some have done, several are around with different attachments to speed some tasks by not needing to change wheels frequently and they'd back each other up.

Bottom line, there is value at the HF and this thread is a great way to help folks find it.

TG
 

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6 Pc Garden Hose Quick Coupler Set

https://www.harborfreight.com/lawn-garden/garden-hose/6-pc-garden-hose-quick-coupler-set-62615.html

FAIL.

These leaked almost right away. Only time they didn't leak is if I held the hose/tool still. The moment you moved the hose around, it leaked. Every hose coupler and plug in two packages did this.

That's odd. Maybe they changed vendors, as HF is known to do.
I bought a set about 3 yrs ago with no expectations and was so impressed with their performance that I bought another set so that all my hose nozzles, portable sprinklers and even my pressure washer are all identical quick connects.
I guess that's life at HF.

Bill
 

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That's odd. Maybe they changed vendors, as HF is known to do.
I bought a set about 3 yrs ago with no expectations and was so impressed with their performance that I bought another set so that all my hose nozzles, portable sprinklers and even my pressure washer are all identical quick connects.
I guess that's life at HF.

Bill

Yea, reviews seemed good, but experiences were identical to the 1-star reviews. Was hoping they'd be good, because that's dirt cheap for quick connects.
 

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The Vulcan heavy duty welding cart is a pass, built heavy and is sized properly for three machines. I like that it is set up for two gas cylinders, and the drawers/shelves get all of the consumables in one place. Coupons get it down to around $250, assemble with Locktite.

https://www.harborfreight.com/Heavy-Duty-Large-Welding-Cabinet-63179.html?ccdenc=eyJjb2RlIjoiMTU3MzA5OTAiLCJza3UiOiI2MzE3OSIsImlzIjoiMjU5Ljk5IiwicHJvZHVjdF9p%0D%0AZCI6IjExOTQzIn0%3D%0D%0A&in_name=newproducts&in_date=030118&utm_source=newtwp&utm_medium=topbanner&utm_campaign=ntwp030118
 

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I bought their 4 ton floor jack after my uncle bought one. It held up the back half John Deere 5020 pulling tractor while split without leaking down, used it to change tires/brakes on the front end of the semi and when to change a blown tire on a loaded 24 ft cattle trailer. Have used it many more times than that but only light work.

Short version. 4 ton floor jack, good, pass.

If time permits, please post model#. I have been considering this jack but it seems there are a few different 4 ton jacks.
 

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If time permits, please post model#. I have been considering this jack but it seems there are a few different 4 ton jacks.
A Daytona branded steel 4 ton is somewhere in the supply chain. I suspect it's probably mostly just a rebrand of the Pitsburg, but you may want to wait and see what it looks like. If it's a rebrand, they will probably closeout the Pitsburg model.
 

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The Vulcan heavy duty welding cart is a pass, built heavy and is sized properly for three machines. I like that it is set up for two gas cylinders, and the drawers/shelves get all of the consumables in one place. Coupons get it down to around $250, assemble with Locktite.

https://www.harborfreight.com/Heavy-Duty-Large-Welding-Cabinet-63179.html?ccdenc=eyJjb2RlIjoiMTU3MzA5OTAiLCJza3UiOiI2MzE3OSIsImlzIjoiMjU5Ljk5IiwicHJvZHVjdF9p%0D%0AZCI6IjExOTQzIn0%3D%0D%0A&in_name=newproducts&in_date=030118&utm_source=newtwp&utm_medium=topbanner&utm_campaign=ntwp030118


I'd like to get one of those. Seems solid.
 

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Sounds like you think everything they sell is a "fail", so this probably isn't the best thread for you. :p

HF does not censor their website's reviews, so in my experience if one takes the time to read through them (sorted by most recent rather than the default highest rating sort), it does provide accurate expectations.

He should keep posting right here.
Unless you want to censure posters you don't agree with. In which case start a fanboy thread.
 

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He should keep posting right here.

Unless you want to censure posters you don't agree with. In which case start a fanboy thread.



Uh No, this thread is the harbor freight "pass-fail" for people actually buy a product and use it.


He was just responding to someone who really could not offer anything but general **** storm.

Taking your lead they should start a separate thread for that. :)


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He should keep posting right here.
Unless you want to censure posters you don't agree with. In which case start a fanboy thread.

Except the "review" contained no information, only the posters opinion in general.

12 pack of terry towels, pass, good sized and cheap enough to trash after hard use and MUCH more absorption than typical shop towels.

4 pack of free with coupon microfiber towels, pass, small but free and useful for folding up in a pocket. Too thin and too small to pay for, but good free item until you have a dozen or so.
 

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Uh No, this thread is the harbor freight "pass-fail" for people actually buy a product and use it.


He was just responding to someone who really could not offer anything but general **** storm.

Taking your lead they should start a separate thread for that. :)


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When the separate "Harbor Freight is Garbage" thread is started can we merge it with a Sear/Craftsman ***** thread to save everyone time?
 

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When the separate "Harbor Freight is Garbage" thread is started can we merge it with a Sear/Craftsman ***** thread to save everyone time?
Spot on; could even do a PITTSBURGH PRO DESTROYS NEW CRAFTSMAN MECHANIC'S TOOLS! I can't understand why people are hostile towards competition.....if it has anything to do with MADE IN USA, better take a look at what most of the once-great American companies are selling

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I think everyone needs to take a step back maybe.

There are two sides here: The Harbor Freight Fanboys and the Harbor Freight Haters.

You have to try and walk the fine line between them, but stray off to one side or the other and you get chewed out here. We all know the suppliers change, reviews are opinions, and opinions are relative, but there's no need to hate on someone in this thread because they had a bad experience with a product you claim is as good or better than another maker. If you can't handle a bad review, then its not a pass/fail (so long as the review has some info to it). But this goes both ways. You have to keep an open mind as to the success of your use and expectations. I should know, my first post in here created a 3 page argument about a clamp and a tarp for Pete's sake.
 
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There are good buys from HF and then terrible ones. I already mentioned the floor jack which was great but I forgot I also bought some brushes a while back. They were assortment of big and small, nylon and steel. The small steel one broke while I was tapping gently against a tire to clean the brush. I have never seen anything break as easily as that small brush. The rest have been fine but I treat them like an egg now. They were on sale ($3 maybe?) but brittle as a lightbulb. Maybe if you can find ones with a wooden handle but the plastic handles are junk.
 

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Just seems silly to me for someone to come to a thread where people have spent hundreds of pages carefully evaluating the pros and cons of specific products, just to throw down blanket statements about how you don't want *any* of their products. (It'd be like going to the garage sale thread just to say you don't want anybody's dirty old secondhand junk. :lol: ) Sure wasn't expecting such an angry response (on the previous page, didn't want to quote it) for pointing out that it didn't make a lot of sense. :dunno: We all know it's not Snap-On or Craftsman.
 
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Anyway, if I haven't already posted about these, I should have: Micro Flush Cutter - $3.99
https://www.harborfreight.com/micro-flush-cutter-90708.html

Mine are several years old (still looks the same as the current product pic), but at least at that time, a definite PASS. I use them frequently for cutting zip ties. Great at squeezing in without damaging tightly-ziptied cables.
 

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Air hose reel - 80% pass.

Included air fitting leaked pretty profusely, but I had the parts laying around to get it going. Would have been nice if it came with a hose to attach to my compressor, but at $15 it’s fine. I’m pretty sure this is the same reel that HD sells as Husky for $25.
 

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Air hose reel - 80% pass.

Included air fitting leaked pretty profusely, but I had the parts laying around to get it going. Would have been nice if it came with a hose to attach to my compressor, but at $15 it’s fine. I’m pretty sure this is the same reel that HD sells as Husky for $25.

I have one of those also been about 8 years and it's been fine......passed
 

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Foldable Sawhorse Set - Item # 61700 - "Some assembly required."

The directions were useless. However the parts and hardware were all there and went together as they should. Couple of stripped out bolts, as expected for HF.

Good solid support for a number of projects. These have not let me down. No complaints.

PASS
 

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300 Amp Welding Ground Clamp

300 Amp Welding Ground Clamp
https://www.harborfreight.com/300-amp-welding-ground-clamp-63784.html

A big FAIL...
All the copper looking parts, including the jaws, are STEEL flash plated with a copper wash.
I cut open/flattened/annealed some copper tube, and wrapped the clamp jaws with it, to improve them, something I should not have had to do :sad:

They did post my 1 star review though :bowdown:
:D
 
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Re: 300 Amp Welding Ground Clamp

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They did post my 1 star review though :bowdown:
:D

Yep, gotta respect HF for not censoring their reviews. :thumbup: They do set the default sort order to 'highest rating first' instead of 'most recent first' or 'most helpful first', but once a customer catches onto that, it's no big deal.
 

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Re: 300 Amp Welding Ground Clamp

300 Amp Welding Ground Clamp
https://www.harborfreight.com/300-amp-welding-ground-clamp-63784.html

A big FAIL...
All the copper looking parts, including the jaws, are STEEL flash plated with a copper wash.
I cut open/flattened/annealed some copper tube, and wrapped the clamp jaws with it, to improve them, something I should not have had to do :sad:

They did post my 1 star review though :bowdown:
:D

Try this one if you want a good, heavy duty clamp. I've had this model for several years and it works fine. When I bought mine it was another brand by HF, but this one (Berger) should be just as good.
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Re: 300 Amp Welding Ground Clamp

Try this one if you want a good, heavy duty clamp. I've had this model for several years and it works fine. When I bought mine it was another brand by HF, but this one (Berger) should be just as good.
63849_I.jpg
I probably will at some point, once the bad taste goes away...
:eek:
It looks like that hollow rivet/pivot pin is the only connection between the jaws to carry the current, as there is no "copper" strap like on the fake clamp I bought, the reason I bought it.
My bad for going cheap,
:sad:
 
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Re: 300 Amp Welding Ground Clamp

I probably will at some point, once the bad taste goes away...
:eek:
It looks like that hollow rivet/pivot pin is the only connection between the jaws to carry the current, as there is no "copper" strap like on the fake clamp I bought, the reason I bought it.
My bad for going cheap,
:sad:

The cable bolts to the lower jaw if you set that as your ground what's the problem? The top jaw is mainly for clamping force.
 

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Re: 300 Amp Welding Ground Clamp

The cable bolts to the lower jaw if you set that as your ground what's the problem? The top jaw is mainly for clamping force.

That makes sense
what's the mesh wire strap for on this clamp:
https://www.harborfreight.com/300-amp-welding-ground-clamp-63784.html

where it says:
Pure copper braided shunt
•Copper contacts designed to maximize positive grounding

Rather than cluttering up this thread any further, PM me for any other discussion on this subject.
Ken

Edit:
Shunt: provide (an electrical current) with a conductor joining two points of a circuit, through which more or less of the current may be diverted.
 
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Re: 300 Amp Welding Ground Clamp

That makes sense
what's the mesh wire strap for on this clamp:
https://www.harborfreight.com/300-amp-welding-ground-clamp-63784.html
Ken

To keep current from going through the hinge is my guess.

Seems like not a bad idea if it works, the clamp is again just a clamp and the grounding goes through the designated points and the braid. Orientation of the clamp won't matter either if at least one of the contacts has a good connection.

The clamp on my MM211 doesn't look any better and it doesn't even have the braid. That HF clamp might be an upgrade over what I have.
 

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Re: 300 Amp Welding Ground Clamp

That makes sense
what's the mesh wire strap for on this clamp:
https://www.harborfreight.com/300-amp-welding-ground-clamp-63784.html

That's because the body of it is thin steel, which conducts around a dozen times worse than brass if it were the same thickness, and closer to 3 dozen times worse than copper.

That prior brass clamp pictured, is beefy enough that the lower conductivity compared to copper doesn't matter as much, and isn't necessarily delivering much current through the rivet if it is tight, which puts both halves in contact against each other at the rivet.
 
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I think everyone needs to take a step back maybe.

There are two sides here: The Harbor Freight Fanboys and the Harbor Freight Haters.

It's easy to love/hate on harbor freight. I love some of the bargains there but their quality control is far worse than any other hardware store I've ever been to.

That's one of the problems with a thread like this. It has good intentions and useful info, but there's still the quality control issue, that you can buy the same product two different times and one of them is fine but the other isn't.

That makes it easy for me to understand those who bash things with internal parts that you can't inspect before purchase. I hold it against HF a little too, I mean last time I went there looking for a sledge hammer and about 50% of them had loose handles? Should never have been put out on the shelves with loose handles, they need to get far better at policing defective goods, shouldn't be the customer's responsibility to pick a safe product.
 
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Re: 300 Amp Welding Ground Clamp

That's because the body of it is thin steel, which conducts around a dozen times worse than brass if it were the same thickness, and closer to 3 dozen times worse than copper.

That prior brass clamp pictured, is beefy enough that the lower conductivity compared to copper doesn't matter as much, and isn't necessarily delivering much current through the rivet if it is tight, which puts both halves in contact against each other at the rivet.

Last post for me on welding ground clamps, I promise...

For me, more is better, and I most likely would add a shunt wire even on that copper alloy clamp.
I'm aware of the different of resistance between steel and copper alloys.
If that rivet was not meant to carry current why is it not steel, steel would wear better for sure and not gall.

If the clamp, clamped on steel, has a better/cleaner connection on the non-wire side I'll guarantee current will flow thru that copper rivet.
And for the same reason the spring is insulated on both ends, to NOT flow current.
jmo
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There is no reason to believe the rivet will conduct more than two pieces of the clamp. First, one half of it has a lesser area of contact to the rivet than to the other half. Second, the other half also has a lesser contact area than to the other half. Third, the rivet is thin material. There probably is some current but not the majority.

There is no "same reason" about the spring. That doesn't even make sense. The spring is more likely insulated because if it were to get hot it could lose its springiness.

Try it. Replace the rivet with a piece of bolt. So long as the two halves are tight together as I already wrote, it should work fine. The rivet does not need to conduct at all and is a poor conductor for the purpose due to the small area, would fail if there were not also the contact between both sides. If they wanted it as the primary conduction path then it would have been a solid rather than hollow, thin walled rivet.
 

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I'd probably not expect the angle grinder to survive but if it's considered expendable it would add value if as some have done, several are around with different attachments to speed some tasks by not needing to change wheels frequently

It’s funny how in harbor freight threads, much like political debate... both sides are using the same old as dirt arguments... you pro-HF guys owe royalties to whomever originally posted that “life hack”.
 
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