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Omphaloskeptic

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Just finished going through your epic build today; GREAT WORK AND A VERY UNIQUE DESIGN! Once I opened the first page, I became addicted - you might say I got a 'Jones on' for this build (if you lived in 'The Projects'). lol (pun intended)

If you would be so kind, could you post the schematic that you and your friend came up with for the dolly/hoist remote controller? That is a slick (and economical) way to control both units. I'd like to steal that idea if you would share the particulars.

Being an owner of a '67 Triumph GT6, I can totally relate to the offbeat charm of a hatchback sports car. The general shape of hatchback zoomers makes me think of my favorite exotic car, the Bugatti Atlantic, even though it was not a hatchback. Did I read correctly that with the addition of the Garrett turbo onto the stock (?) engine, you are pulling 575 WHP? Please pop the hood, take a pic or two to show us your baby's power plant when you have a chance. How long have you owned it? What was the hit to the checkbook? It sounds like you know the value of a dollar, so I'm guessing you knew you were getting a lot of bang for your buck when you bought it.

Congratulations on a great build once more. Have you made your LAST lease payment on the shop space yet? That will be a great day for you and yours to celebrate, in fact you should throw a big party, a 'Coming Out' party when you at last move into your JONE'S AND SONS HOME SHOP!:thumbup:
 
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jonesmechanical

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Just finished going through your epic build today; GREAT WORK AND A VERY UNIQUE DESIGN! Once I opened the first page, I became addicted - you might say I got a 'Jones on' for this build (if you lived in 'The Projects'). lol (pun intended)

Thankyou, and Lol

If you would be so kind, could you post the schematic that you and your friend came up with for the dolly/hoist remote controller? That is a slick (and economical) way to control both units. I'd like to steal that idea if you would share the particulars.

Basically, we have a 3 way switch that switches 4 poles from one input (the remote on the controller) to two separate wires (4 wires each) to the trolley and the hoist. The trick was to find a switch that was simple that could handle the amperage of the hoist. Switch it one way and the trolley is operated through the retractable control, switch it the other way, and the retractable control controls the hoist. The only compromise of this is that to switch modes, you have to go upstairs and change the switch if you want to change between hoist and trolley, but really, that rarely would be an issue.

Being an owner of a '67 Triumph GT6, I can totally relate to the offbeat charm of a hatchback sports car. The general shape of hatchback zoomers makes me think of my favorite exotic car, the Bugatti Atlantic, even though it was not a hatchback. Did I read correctly that with the addition of the Garrett turbo onto the stock (?) engine, you are pulling 575 WHP? Please pop the hood, take a pic or two to show us your baby's power plant when you have a chance. How long have you owned it? What was the hit to the checkbook? It sounds like you know the value of a dollar, so I'm guessing you knew you were getting a lot of bang for your buck when you bought it.

Yes, "stock" motor, the S52 motor that came stock in the M coupe, and the e36 M3 (1996-1999). The motor has different cams (not really necessary) forged pistons that drop the compression ratio, and Forged I beam rods. Other than that, completely stock. There are many guys that run between 350-500 wheel on a completely stock bottom end and pistons/rods with either high octane gas, or drop the compression from 10.5:1 to down in to the 8 range. I have had a few coupes. One was Dinan superchaged, that I had plans to swap to turbo. I had all the parts collected, and then a fellow friend/forum guru decided to sell his Turbo M coupe that he build with Active Autowerke's in Florida. I passed on it as it was too expensive. My project was going to cost a total of $40K car/mods. Omar wanted $60K. The Coupe sold to a man in Oregon, and 4 months later, he sold it to be a tremendous loss because of he was in need to cash because of a bad bussiness deal. I sold all my parts, and my Dinan Superchaged Coupe and actually cleared money in the deal.

I have learned over many projects, that its better to buy a car done, than to build it yourself. There has been plenty to tinker on the coupe.

If you were a complete DIY'er and a capable wrench, you could turbo charge a M coupe with good supporting modifications (suspension, brakes, clutch, gearing, wide wheels and tires, traction control) with over 500 wheel hp for around $20,000 in parts.

Here are a few pics:
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The turbo is really hidden because of how the motor is tilted in the BMW's. Here is the Dyno curve of the M Coupe:
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Congratulations on a great build once more. Have you made your LAST lease payment on the shop space yet? That will be a great day for you and yours to celebrate, in fact you should throw a big party, a 'Coming Out' party when you at last move into your JONE'S AND SONS HOME SHOP!:thumbup:

LAST PAYMENT MADE LAST AUGUST. ITS AWESOME!!!!!

Coming out parts needs to wait until its completely organized and done. There have been some get togethers, but nothing formally for the garage yet. I will post it when that happens.

I took several photos tonight of a few projects I have completed. I will post them later this evening.
 

the_saint

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This is a great build you have going on here! I wish we could get these kind of prices up here in Ontario Canada! This addition would run you around 80 grand where I live!

To have it done properly I would figure $80+k in Canada.
 

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Awesome build! Love the thought in the design that has gone into this project!

Can't wait to see the finished floor!
 
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jonesmechanical

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To have it done properly I would figure $80+k in Canada.


Just over a year ago when I started the project, I just happened to hit a very low point on material prices. Everything now is 10-25% more, and one some lumber pieces, even higher. I couldn't have timed it better. Also, I did not have to pay a general contractor because I had several that are friends that were willing to help with anything because of HVAC favors I have done for them over the years.


Here is a pic of two Harbor freight Roll Aways I just picked up for a crazy deal. one is 54" inch, the other is 44" wide. They were on sale for $799 and $349, normally $999 and $499 I think. I went down to the local store to check them out, and they were locked up. Online reviews were almost perfect 5 stars. I am not a typical harbor freight tool shopper, especially for something like this, but I was stunned at the quality. Really heavy duty ball bearing slides.

The store manager said they didn't have the keys, so I offered to buy the display models that didn't have keys, and they were were so excited. They gave me 40% off the sale. Less than $700 for both of them. I drilled out the locks, and have them ordered (less than $15.00).

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I am going to do a steel folding countertop on top of them for fabrication that can also be used as a bar for parties (just roll out to the tool storage).

Towards the back of the single car stall, I installed a garage gator hoist platform. Makes it nice to get things up into the 5' tall upper crawlspace above that stall.
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I relocated another garage gator that was hanging in my wifes garage to the side of the stairs for the bikes:
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Then towards the front of the garage I built about 20' long sections of short depth vertical racks to store long PVC and ductwork that just wasn't making it upstairs. Just welded it up with the same 1x3 1/8" wall tubing I had left over from the stair rail.

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Flooring will likely happen in the spring. I have about 2000 sq ft of tile to purchase, so its going to be expensive, just for the material.
 

the_saint

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Thanks for posting more updates :)

Without a doubt, with cost of materials fluctuating, the timing of a build may influence the final cost by a large amount! Lucky that you were at a low point in costs.
 
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jonesmechanical

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Other projects on the list are:

Build a steel welding cart for both the mig and tig welders with a hoist hook so it can reside upstairs, then lower down when ever I need them.

Design and Build an electric actuator system that automatically opens up the aluminum flooring that covers the hoist hole in the upper floor.

Design and Build a roll out storage rack for the small triangle space under the stairs and behind the bathroom.

I am a bit short on cash also because I just purchased that GMC 1 ton crew cab 4x4 utility bed truck. One of the best finds I have ever had. 2008 with only 19,000 miles, $26,000. I have never had a truck that seemed new. Local dealer wanted $57,000 to build the truck with the bed and all. Literally, the truck didn't have a scratch on it, so odd for a utility truck to have such low miles, and little use.
 
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Pluribus

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Just finished reading this thread from the beginning and wanted to compliment you on the creative use of materials and your willingness to experiment with different uses and applications for items and materials. Great choices in flooring, railings, lighting, and stairs! I get the impression that you had a lot of fun in the process, and I really enjoyed the thread.

Good advice on buying cars that someone else built. Starting from scratch costs so much more. One of these days, I'll actually heed that one. :dunno:
 
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Also just finished reading this incredible build, very well planned out and executed. Has there been any progress since?

Just to keep this relevant, here's a pic of my buddy's M Coupe from this summer, with my baby in the back ground.

 

Omphaloskeptic

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$26k vs. $57k; I'd say you deserve a big 'YOU ****' for that great deal, so here it is -


* YOU ****! *


A-a-n-n-n-d, since you probably get to depreciate that rig for business tax purposes....


** YOU **** TWICE! **


A-a-n-n-n-d, since you came out of HF with that truly screaming deal on TWO boxes.....


*** YOU **** THRICE! ***


*** :D :thumbup: :D ***
 
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jonesmechanical

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Also just finished reading this incredible build, very well planned out and executed. Has there been any progress since?

Just to keep this relevant, here's a pic of my buddy's M Coupe from this summer, with my baby in the back ground.



Love the Z4 M coupes. Never was a fan of the Z4, but I love the coupe. Same with the Z3. Dont love even the M Roadster, but I love the coupe. I have thought it would be my next car, especially with the S54 tuning that has been going on, but for what ever reason, the Z4 electronics are a step behind in the tuning department.

Thanks everyone for the kind comments!!

New truck has 25,000 miles on it. I think I going to convert it over to a dual fuel natural gas truck. It will be fun to have tons or range (with gas and NG) plus the cost is super cheap.

I have some large jobs wrapping up, and hoping that tile will be in my future this summer.
 

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Flooring will likely happen in the spring. I have about 2000 sq ft of tile to purchase, so its going to be expensive, just for the material.

Great build.

When you are ready for tile if you don't want to do it yourself I know a couple of GREAT tilers out your way that I can point you to. I'm on a great tile forum and there are some guys out there that work in a lot of the high end house out in your area. Let me know if you want me to hook you up with them.

Laying tile is the hardest job ever, it will kick your **** all over the place and then more.

Pat
 

k-west

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Great build, love how you did a lot of things different from the norm.

That datsun reminds me of my first car, 79 BMW 320i. yes when you look closely they look different but the pair of round lights on each side and the shape in the shadows on that lift. i miss that car, ton of fun for $2000 10 year old car. handled like a dream on dry roads but put just a bit of water or snow on the road and good luck.
 
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