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I wore my thick leather welding gloves to pick it up.
I can understand why! I've handled some dead hawks, found on the road or in the woods, and the talons are extremely sharp. At the risk of exposing a technical crime (for possessing these...), we have been known to keep some parts, including a foot or two, which sharp-eyed followers may be able to where's-waldo in this curio box we showed during the initial tour.

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When I worked at Environmental Ed camp (4H, YMCA style field-trip sleep away camp), we had a bird mews and a Great Horned Owl. First, having 8+lbs standing on the edge of your arm, fully extended for an hr gets really tiring!

Also, he had something of an attitude problem. One of the demos we showed students is that he could make the sides of a tennis ball touch in a single talon, by squeezing it together. Every time he stepped up onto our hands, he would flex just enough to pinch/poke you (thru the leather welding gloves!), as if to say, "If I wanted to cripple you, these gloves would barely stop me..."

Amazing animals. And the intelligence is firightening
 
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I know adults that can't do that good!
Indeed.

What's most interesting to me is how each owl is slightly different, despite all the students obviously using the same model. Especially their expressions, or our personified impressions of their expressions, due to the eyes. Three of them (from top to bottom, left to right, #1, #7 and #8) are classically imperious. #2 is curious, but indifferent. #5 is attentive, leaning toward compassionate. #3 is downright kind. #4 is skeptical. #6 is querying, "Are you nuts?" :)

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Long time followers probably recall that our father was an artist, that our daughter got his genes, that we have shown some of their stuff, and that we tend to pick up some related things, such as that antique Landers, Frary and Clark palette knife last year. We don't show every flea find in the GS thread, and we don't show every find here.

We did pick up this 1932 book this year...
 

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Not intending to sidetrack your thread, Lugz, but you and Outlaw made good observations about the artists’ ages and the intensity of the owls’ eyes. MrsLS informs us that in our schools, the teacher gives substantial guidance to kindergarteners.
My guess is, the teacher drew the eyes and possibly the V-shaped brows (& beak?) to get the students started. The uniformity of their solid black color, line quality and the white glint in each eye looks like the work of a single, adult artist.
The coloring and body modeling is far less uniform, so I think that is all kid-work. I find the background fill suspect, but it might be accomplished with sufficient verbal direction and adult demonstration. The size and arrangement of the component pieces, and likely the choice of which finished images (from a presumably larger number of attempts) are more obviously adult-controlled.
 

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mmmmm....
dunno about that.
children's art, of all the art I've looked at, is one of my favorites.
and I don't see highlights on eyeballs in childrens' works....
maybe it's just me.... :unsure:

for that matter, I don't recall doing it myself until maybe 7th or 8th grade....
 
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Not intending to sidetrack your thread, Lugz, but you and Outlaw made good observations about the artists’ ages and the intensity of the owls’ eyes.
Typically, this is where we would say that we can't and won't speak for Outlaw here, only for ourselves, but in this case, we are 100% confident that by mentioning adults he was not questioning or casting doubt on the veracity or the integrity of the origination of this artwork to kindergarteners, but simply using the comparison to more highly commend it! As were we when we "indeeded" him!

Furthermore, we dare say your school's approach - a model (probably a painting of an owl) and some basic, adult-prepared guidance (size, coloration, etc), is de rigeur in most kindergartens across the country, and is therefore an expected, inherent element of the entire composition.

Lastly, we think you may have misread our little reverie on the eyes, which calls for a revisit.

Yes, they are all relatively intense, befitting all owls, and we are sure that included the owl that was the subject of the painting that served as a model for these kindergarteners. Our point was not about their commonality, but quite the opposite, about their variance! We beseech you to re-read, and look again, perhaps not so mesmerized by a single glint of white in black pupils, and you will find that otherwise no two sets of eyes are alike. Not in size. Not in shape. Not in distance from each other. And certainly not in their overall impression. (We won't repeat the various emotions we find evoked by each instance of the owl by number, but we will re-emphasize that only three - the most severely imperious, can even be said to be remotely "alike", and we suspect these three children show the most promise in art, or at least early Realism, as a style as well as a philosophical theory explaining such tendencies, and, perhaps, forgery, for most accurately capturing what we suspect were the model owl's eyes.)

Our point in redux within the context of questioning the works' origins, though, is this: Were eight clearly different sets of eyes drawn by eight different adults? Or did one adult draw eight sets of eyes so clearly differently for eight different children? We find neither one very plausible. We think you know what we believe happened in that schoolroom. Despite all eight children looking at the same owl, eight children saw and drew (painted? pastelled?) eight different versions of it. Which was precisely the feature that captivates us the most about the overall paintings (and variance), but especially the eyes!

This takeaway is certainly not unique to paintings designed to be created and displayed side-by-side (see Triptych) - it's something all parents of pre-K, K, and elementary grade art classes have experienced by the tens of thousands annually since the dawn of pre-K, K, and elementary grade art classes.

But this Octoptych is a very fine example of the practice, and we can see why you kept and framed it.

Gentlemen. We don't know if the world suffered a slight shift of its axis when weren't looking, throwing everything into just a slightly more deranged version of itself there for a minute or two, a spell we are not immune to ourselves, but we would prefer to not further debate the veracity of the origination of children's artwork offered generously and kindly in the spirit of cameraderie, and perhaps the season, in reply to a very nice stretch of owlish admiration prompted by the return of our dear itinerant Screech.
 
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Fast forward to Christmas afternoon when we have a mental painting of @Private Lugnutz , stein full of Greggnog in hand, deep in conversation with Screech.
Snerk. I'm usually napping by some point in the afternoon, recovering from Round 1 of games, and getting ready for Round 2, which we normally commence after dinner. We are a fiercely competitive family that has always been deeply committed to Christmas as a day of new board games! Although I always tend to get something from someone related to tools and Screech, too! :)
 

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After brief consultation, we decided this could be a new, occasional, selective 'Game' here on the Lugzsonian thread, when something someone from "the audience" says prompts us to make a special presentation from our collection.

Here is a feat of balance (ours) and strength (a Templeton, Kenly & Company 3" SIMPLEX screw jack souvenir from the 1934 World's Fair purported to have a capacity of 500 lbs)! We only weigh roughly half that, which is good enough to convince us it's not a toy, but the real thing, just as TKCo claimed! :)
 

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We got two videos, too. Turning his head 90*+ to scratch it with his right foot. And leaving the roost just as it was getting dark. This is what the guy was using.
 

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Professional wildlife photographer for a NJ monthly magazine was at the house today. "Screech" 'bout to get some press! :) We're a little worried, but they've sworn to not reveal the location, and we'd never have pics like this otherwise. Going to frame the best one.
He did nice work, obviously not a cell phone shot. Seeing that cannon below is great, be 15’ feet away and still get the shot.
 

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So is Screech a little cross-eyed--or was he just making faces at the photographer to let him know his camouflaged lens wasn't fooling anyone?
 
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Nice picture! Looks like I will have to up my game to keep up with the standard of GJ owl pictures
And if Timm's appraisal is accurate, apparently break into the big piggie bank, too! :)
So is Screech a little cross-eyed--or was he just making faces at the photographer to let him know his camouflaged lens wasn't fooling anyone?
HA! After consulting with the The Experts at Mrs. LesserSon's Elementary School, his eyes look perfectly normal to me! But he may be scoffing a little crossly.
 

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As I personally don't have the 'transferable skills' to operate anything much different to farm machines, there's no chance of me managing one of those sophisticated cameras.. Luckily, there is a few photo enthusiasts who enjoy taking pictures on the farm and they sometimes kindly send them to me. As we're on Lugz's Owl Thread I just have to photobomb with some of a Short-Eared Owl hunting over the pasture fields. That's all, then it's back to wrenches... SEO 3_00001 Pistone Hill 20 Feb 2024.jpgSEO 1_00001 Pistone Hill 20 Feb 2024.jpgSEO_00001 Pistone Hill 20 Feb 2024.jpg
 
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Awesome, J.

For the photobuffs, the photog was using a 400mm 2.8. He has an f:4, but per him, it doesn't let in as much light and it was well after sundown. Daytime he would've used an f:4, but these owls usually don't like to open their eyes until dusk.
 

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Awesome, J.

For the photobuffs, the photog was using a 400mm 2.8. He has an f:4, but per him, it doesn't let in as much light and it was well after sundown. Daytime he would've used an f:4, but these owls usually don't like to open their eyes until dusk.
Oh, good--that's only $12,000 new!

Now I recall why I never got serious about wildlife photography.
 
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The Acquisitions Dept came home from the flea market this morning with this "Lincoln Tunnel" lithographed tin wind-up toy and the Curator was overjoyed. It's perfect for GJ and perfect for the Lugzsonian. Cars, trucks, busses, a local, world-famous tunnel, and it tickles the grandpop bone - as well as our metaphysical fancy! < More on that below!

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Ours is all there and it works. They are apparently not unicorn rare. A quick googling reveals several for sale on fleaBay ($75-$350, depending on completeness and condition), several others for sale or sold by antique toy stores over the years, and this example in the Henry Ford museum, oddly dated as "1925 to 1940." Since the Lincoln Tunnel, connecting Weehawken, NJ to Manhattan, was under construction from 1934 to 1959, opened for traffic in 1937, and this toy is usually dated to the 1940's and 50's, we find that peculiar. Maybe the curators at the Henry Ford know something that everybody else got wrong, but we find it odd. Its popularity as a toy and as a collectible is attributed to the experience of traveling through it and its omnipresence as a landmark and NYC metropolitan area fixture.

But not as odd as the toy, which can be thought of, with a little imagination, as a depiction of inverse space. Inversive geometry is the study of inversion, which flips the Euclidean plane inside out, uniformly. Circles can become spheres, spheres hyperboloids, with lines and angles not contravening each other.

The toy is not depicting the Lincoln Tunnel itself. It is depicting the concept of the Lincoln Tunnel, the idea of any tunnel, but, oddly, inverted.

Let's start with the moving parts. When it's wound up and turned on, the visible cars, trucks, and busses - travelling, directionally, on the wrong side of a US toy, as @Outlawmws noted on the GS thread, are not traveling inside the tunnel. They are actually travelling in a very weird geographic space, outside the tunnel, but occupied by New York and New Jerey, at the same time! There is a sort of no man's land in the very middle, ostensibly neither New York or New Jersey, where the traffic cop is situated, between those nonsensical NEW YORK and NEW JERSEY border markers (the actual border between those two states is the middle of the Hudson river, above the tunnel), but it represents no actual traffic cop and no actual place on earth.

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It gets worse.

The openings that the vehicles disappear into and loop right back out of are tunnel entrances (and exits), but they, too, are inverted.

What that "NEW JERSEY ENTRANCE" side of the toy is representing is the entrance (and exit) of the Lincoln Tunnel on the New Jersey side of the Hudson river, in Weehawken, NJ.

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That's what you see when you are going into the Lincoln tunnel from New Jersey, and the cars you would see coming out of those openings as you enter are coming from New York.

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Likewise, but conversely, what the NEW YORK ENTRANCE side of the toy is representing is the entrance (and exit) of the Lincoln Tunnel on the New York side of the Hudson river, in Manhattan.

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That's what you see when go into the tunnel from Manhattan and what you see coming out of the tubes are cars coming out of the tunnel from New Jersey.

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But there is nothing in between the two ends (entrances/exists), obviously (except the imaginary, implied tunnel), and the tin section connecting the two ends doesn't exist. There is no tunnel. The tunnel itself is actually not part of the toy, except for those two small housings where the vehicles briefly disappear and make sharp right turns. But even that implication of the invisible tunnel is not linear, like a tunnel. It would have to loop around like an ouroboros. And yet, it doesn't do that, mechanically, either.

When a vehicle goes into the tunnel from New Jersey it loops around and comes right back out.... into New Jersey again, and into no man's land heading back into the New York entrance to the tunnel on the opposite side of the toy where it emerges, incongruously... in New York! :)

All vehicles are essentially trapped in New York or NJ - and hardly ever in a "tunnel."

This toy must have been an awful lot of fun for kids from New York and New Jersey to play with. But it must've been a major source of confusion for every young overthinking Poindexter. :Freak:
 
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Now you're reminding me of my mental gymnastics whenever I try to study the RH and LH edges of a typical Euro-centered world map.
Just a minute now, is Alaska right next to Russia or is it waaayyy over there? And just how big is Antarctica?
I'll be right back after I find my bottle of aspirin...
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