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Greenfield village is now the Henry ford. It's in Dearborn, not Detroit. No reason to run from there, it's a very safe place to be. Now don't go crazy, but it's no place to be fearful. Lots of good food and bars in the area. Hit me up on pm if you want more info.

I know it is in Dearborn. On Southfield I 39. Just generalizing. I know all the cities from Beverly Hills out to Orachard Lake and back over to all the Gorsse Points. How do like all the old homes in Indian Village, University Distric, Palmer woods, Boston/ Edison, Sherwood, North Rosedale, Rosdale/ Grandmont?


One more think I can not forget. I am sitting her looking at an old glass Vernors bottle. The factory moved into the new plant way back somewhere in the early 50's. So long I can't remeber. The front was glass and you could watch all the bottle lope aorund and come down into the packing crates.

They had a soda fountian and you could get a big glass of Vernors for 5 Cents. You could get it hot, cold, with cream or Chocolate. WOW That was quite a place in its day . I think they even had it with icecream which is fantastic.

Don't forget the Frank Loyd Write house out on 7 mile Road and the one out at Walled Lake. The one out at the lake belonged to one of my fathers friends. What a home.

I will get the books recomended and read them.

I bet I have a collection of something that most of you Detroiters don't have. Way back when, bicycles had lisence plates. I have mine. With E-bay you can find anything. I now have 9 of them.

I spent half of my child hood at Ford Hospital up on the 17th floor.

I delivered inner office mail on West Grand Blvd for Jam Handy advertisment corp. I got to go to the Fisher and GM buildings. My little work space was just down the street. We had to ware a white hirt and tie to deliver the mail. That is another stroy for a nother time. I was there when the raids were made in 1964. I would go with my black friend and we would get patted down and then let in the back stairs and would play craps and 21 in a Blind Pig. We would then drive down river to pick up $2 hookers and rent a room by the hour.

That is another chapter in a long book. Uncle Sam gave me a 4F because I have asthma.

My father was the principle at North Western the summer of the Roits. The Nationl Guard would come and pick him up at the house and take him town to the Bulivard and Grand River to unlock the school gym so the service men could use the showers. Yes, even back then they killed a teacher. When they raded the lockersthey found guns and knives. One of my child hood frineds taught middle school while going to Wane St getting his Law degree. The boys wold flip coins in middle school to see which girl they would get for the night. That was in the late 60'
s. It was bad way back when.

You can not make this stuff up. It reall was the way things were.
Good or Bad Detroit has a hidden history. Much of North West Detroit had to be drained becaue it was a swamp. The elm Trees made each street look like a Gothic Cathederal. What a place in another time.
 
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For all of you in the Detroit area lets just put it this way. I lived in North Rosdale Park before Southfield became an up and down Freeway. It was such a wide bulivard that my friends and I played ball in the median because it was so wide. It was closer than the park. The freeway rolls up and down to dampen the freeway noise. It really works. I played food ball where there is no ground now. I played in what is now above ground space before man went into space. I went to Cooke Elimentry which include the 9th grade becaue Detroit had so many students.

I remember when Cobo hall was built and the 74 freeway went under it. I got my first ball glove and tennis racke in a pawn shop on Bagly Ave. Now there are no buildings there at all. I can just see what will go through my mind when I get to the old peoples home someday. LOL
 

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Ford field still has one wall from the hudsons building with all the street names on it. It is a great football field even today. While I miss Tiger Stadium and the awesome hot dogs, it was ready to move on and Comerica is a great ball park especially for watching baseball. Joe Louis is a great hockey arena, but we need a new one, but it will be sad when they have to take down all the banners and put them up somewhere else. I don't think Detroit compares to a lot of things in Chicago, but you know what I love the city and the area. I'm in Chicago monthly if not more, it's different to me, not bad, but it's just not "my" town if you know what I mean. There is something about being from the D that you can't replicate, and a lot of people in Chicago are from here. If youre into sports Detroit and the surrounding areas are top notch, the car scene is amazing, but yeah we have the decay, but to me it's almost beautiful. I like to see the old buildings, but it does make me sad to think what it all once was. I still think this is a great town no matter what, I love this place and am proud to say I grew up here, warts and all. A lot of people bash this town, but that's their issue, I can find a million things wrong about any city, but why dwell on it. We are detroiters and we move forward, can't live in the past and need to fight for another day. This city is about guts and it will continue to rise, not all of it, but enough of it to keep me proud saying this is me...

Btw, I like the memory lane, I still miss the belle isle aquarium!

Fantastic! I have never been to Detroit and it's true, us "outsiders" don't hear much good about it. I love hearing these stories from folks who love their hometown, and junk4's especially! I have the same feelings about my own beloved Syracuse, NY.

Thankis for sharing, junk4. I really enjoyed what you wrote.
 

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I lived in Toledo, Ohio my whole life until 6-8 months ago. Been to Detroit more times than I count, its VERY sad.
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OK, please keep this discussion going. "Junkfor Dummies", great stuff there. I have never spent much time in Detroit but truly enjoy the pictures and nostalgia. Change is inevitable though sometimes, maybe even often times it *****.
 

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Question? I have heard a lot in the last yr or so about how Detroit is experiencing a rebirth. If I recall there was a special on 60 minutes or some show like that that portrayed a real positive change in detroit. The downtown was starting to see some new businesse's move in, some large internet co. just moved there headquarters there, etc. Is this all just a big PR campaign or is there some truth to it? Of course then you have the new Chrysler ads playing Detroit as being "reborn". Just curious.
 

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Question? I have heard a lot in the last yr or so about how Detroit is experiencing a rebirth. If I recall there was a special on 60 minutes or some show like that that portrayed a real positive change in detroit. The downtown was starting to see some new businesse's move in, some large internet co. just moved there headquarters there, etc. Is this all just a big PR campaign or is there some truth to it? Of course then you have the new Chrysler ads playing Detroit as being "reborn". Just curious.

They are certainly trying. I believe you're talking about Compuware? They moved downtown several years ago and in front is Campus Martius park, which is the spot for the downtown winter blast (area for the christmas tree, skating etc.)

Google opened an office I believe in Ann Arbor. Seems a lot of tech companies have an interest in the area although not necessarily in the city of Detroit. The great news is the job market is rebounding but companies are having a hard time finding people (especially good engineers) because they are either already employed or have moved. There is still a very large automotive R&D presence in the area and apparently always will be, I work in the industry. While they have moved a lot of the manufacturing jobs elsewhere they have kept the engineering side here. I heard a broadcast the other day that said by 2015 the detroit three would have almost 2/3's of their total employees back here in MI mainly due to bringing back the manufacturing jobs because they are getting to expensive elsewhere. This was written into a contract extension so the city will come back, it just might take some time.
 

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So apparently there is some truth to the rebirth. That is good to hear, Detroit has a great legacy as the automotive capital of the world. It would be nice to get back to that.
 

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i hated detriot, coul;d not wait to get out of that city, those eight months was the worst ten years of my life
 

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I've been in the very near Detroit 'burbs all of my life. I feel safe in the heart of downtown Detroit - day or night. The area between downtown and the suburbs is nowhere for person to go strolling. Walking around Comerica Park, Ford Field, the Fox Theatre, the Gem, The Fillmore (formally the State) Theatre - no problem. Although I wouldn't be comfortable with my wife by herself downtown.
When I was walking to Cobo Hall this past February I saw a guy taking pictures of the buildings and the architecture - I asked were he was from, expecting an out-of-towner...he was a photographer from England. The pride that went into the buildings and homes so many decades ago - just to see them fall apart now, is sad.
As I understand, that huge Packard plant just recently lost it's last renter - there was a small 1 or 2 man company renting a very small area inside the vast shop.

Mayor Bing has a lot of corruption to fight...that's been going on so long that it's hard to realize that it's corruption and not normal business practice.
I enjoy talking to seniors that lived in Detroit during the '30's, '40's and '50's - always good stuff about kids getting into "harmless" trouble.
Don't stop now Junk4dummies!
 

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@ Junk4dummies:
I am glad to hear of all your fond memories of Detroit. I grew up here and still do. But I have to say some of what you are saying is untrue and one of the big reasons a lot of people still have a bad image of Detroit.

Downtown Detroit is NOT unsafe. The nightlife is awesome and unmatched by most cities. The eclectic mix of restaurants is top notch and still growing everyday. There is a HUGE movement in Detroit to try and restore what was once lost. With 3 major sports teams and concerts downtown, there is ALWAYS something going on. Detroit is even starting to be known the major art hub of the US. Its becoming a big thing right now in Mid-town. CCS is one of the top art/design schools in the country.

The Detroit train station is starting to being redone as we speak. There is a lightrail project being created that will connect the suburban areas all the way downtown along Woodward.

Being from Detroit and spending as much time here as I do, I find it very irritating to the point of anger to here people knock Detroit for "all the abandon buildings" and such; especially when they haven't even been to Detroit, or maybe have only driven through it.

Detroit and the surrounding areas is a great place. There are areas that are not safe, as in every city. That doesn't automatically make the whole city bad. The bad areas are not even near the Downtown area.

All I ask is that every try and experience what Metro Detroit is really all about these days before bashing it and deeming it a lost cause. I guarantee everyone would be really surprised.
 

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Odd thing that keeps going through my head, for some reason.

I want a pallet or two of bricks from the Packard plant for a patio project. It makes no sense and I realize driving to Detroit with truck and trailer to get bricks would not be cost effective. But it would be cool, to say my front sidewalk is from the Packard plant.
 

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Odd thing that keeps going through my head, for some reason.

I want a pallet or two of bricks from the Packard plant for a patio project. It makes no sense and I realize driving to Detroit with truck and trailer to get bricks would not be cost effective. But it would be cool, to say my front sidewalk is from the Packard plant.
My uncle floored the basement of the custom house he built for himself using bricks from the Diamond REO ("The World's Toughest Truck") factory in Lansing, MI, when that was torn down in 1979. He drove 360 miles round trip with a flatbed trailer to get as many as he could haul; if I remember correctly, there were a LOT of scavengers doing the same thing.

I wish I had kept a couple... I was born across the street from that plant.

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I was born and raised in Detroit and lived there untill three years ago when I moved my family to the downriver suburbs because the city is just to dangerous. I work in public safety for the city, all the things you hear on the news aren't true...it's much worse. Detroit is the murder capital of America, NO place in the city is safe. I see people from the suburbs all the time robbed and assaulted downtown. This place makes Gotham City look like a beach resort, they will rob you and leave you for dead as soon as look at you. Don't believe Detroit is on a comeback, it's in it's death throws.
 

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First post here for me, but I had these pics which fit the thread.
These show some perspective on Detroit over decades. Hope you can enjoy them.

John

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Woodward between 6 and 7 mile roads (1908)

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Same stretch of road between 6 and 7 mile roads (1909)

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Busiest intersection in the World; Michigan and Woodward (1920)

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Shoppers wait for the streetcar on Woodward at State Street, Nov. 25, 1949

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Highland Park at Woodward and Puritan (1956)

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Newly opened bridge to help ease traffic on Woodward at 8 Mile (1965)

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Hudson's building circa 1983, building was imploded in 1998.

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Campus Martius has been a gathering place for Detroiters for two centuries(Jan 2007)

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The Bob-Lo Boat ! This was the way to get to the Bob-Lo amusement park down the river.
 

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john9 Those pics are fantastic really brings it home for a lot of people i was born and raised in Toronto but dad would take us for trips to Detroit and all over the states but i still remember Detroit city and the great ice cream don't know where it was but that was back in the 60's really miss those days P.S i love this thread!
 
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Great stories and pictures! Im a younger Metro Detroiter (28) and love downtown Detroit, I even graduated from Wayne State University a year ago.

There is hope to rebuild some of the great Detroit but it wont happen till all the idiots are removed, from polititions to residents.
 

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Personally I think the history of Detroit is intriguing. From the Autos to the bootlegging of the 20's, to the architecture. It is so sad that the corruption of the politicians destroyed the city.
I moved to the norther burbs in 1995 from the Pacific Northwest and was warned by friends and family about the dangers of Detroit When I arrived I worked down on Plymouth Rd and did not have any worries about safety, beyond watching carefully while crossing the street. The biggest culture shock was going to a bar on Plymouth Rd for lunch and getting the same reaction that the guys in Animal House got when they walked into the Roadhouse. On the menu was a White Fish Sandwich called the "Whitey" Fish. After about two minutes we were at the bar spending money and no problems at all.
My daughter was born back there and her first 12 years were an idyllic childhood. My wife called Clarkston, Leave it to Beaver land.
It is so sad to see how far the area has fallen, my house back there is worth half of what I paid for it 10 years ago.
It was sad when we left 5 years ago.
 

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I grew up in southern Kentucky, and moved to Lansing from Atlanta a little over 9 years ago. Just after I moved up here, I went with a buddy of mine that lives in Detroit to see Kentucky & Michigan State play basketball at Ford Field. The area right outside of downtown, driving in on Woodward Avenue, is the scariest looking place I've ever been. Even when I lived in Atlanta, I had never been anywhere where I felt compelled to lock my doors while driving down the street. It seemed like a place you wouldn't want to stop and get out. Having said that, there are still nice areas in and around Detroit. I've been to the North American Auto Show at Cobo Hall a couple times, and I tailgated downtown for the Steelers/Seahawks Super Bowl. The downtown area is actually pretty nice, especially compared to what you probably picture in your mind when you hear about Detroit today.
 

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I HATED DETROIT, my first job was at the ford plant in dearborn, I was up there for six months, the people was just down right mean, never saw so much racist bs in my life. That was the longest two years of my life. I still have relative that live in the city. They live in lincoln park. i was in dearborn heights
 

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I lived in Oakland County (northern Detroit suburbs) my entire life till 2 years ago. At one time Oakland county was the third richest county per capita in the united states. I have no idea where it is now. when I was married to wife 1.0 she did her best to turn me into a yuppie (the 80’s) we went on several different urban tours before some of the more serious deterioration had happened.

We toured several defunct old theaters including the Michigan theater. The balcony was chopped off a few rows down from the back wall. The tattered remains of the main curtains were still hanging. I spent some time in there later as well and just more garbage. There is a scene or two in the Eminem movie 8 mile. One of the other interesting abandoned theatres was the united artist that is visible from the people mover. The floors of the theatre were built over a basement with holes in the floor so that a large fan would draw air down from the seats so that people could smoke in the theatre.

By far the most interesting one is an actual success story. I was able to tour what became the “Michigan opera theatre” during the early part of the restoration. It has been fully restored since the mid 90’s and at least was very successful. I actually volunteered at the opera theatre for the first 3 years of operation after the restoration.

I also had been in the train station before it became a destroyed as it is now. I would not go in there now without body armor and a weapon.

I have also toured some of the more interesting art deco homes and apartments in palmer park, indian village and gross point.

I bet if you had the cahones to drive down every back alley and peer into some of the rickety old garages you would find some nice old rare cars worth restoring.
 

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I worked in Dearborn for Ford as an engineer, and lived in Dearborn from 1986 to 1992. I saw many games at Tiger Stadium, Joe Louis Arena, and at the Silverdome. I went to the Auto Show every year at Cobo Hall.

But the best part was working in the automotive industry. I got to see concept vehicles and styling mockups at Ford's Design Center. I even got to visit Chrysler's design studio back when it was in Highland Park. I also got to see and manage design projects by outside design houses like Detroit Steel and Tube (DST), Carron and Company, and Creative Engineering. There was a whole "underground" industry around the auto companies where anything could be made within any time schedule . . . for a price!

Although I worked and lived in Dearborn, I really didn't spend all that much time in Detroit proper, unless it was for business. Ford had some offices in the Renaissance Center, so I made many trips there. Most of my friends lived in the 'burbs. Southfield, Plymouth, Birmingham, Dearborn Heights, and down river.

I had an annual membership to the Henry Ford Museum and Greenfield Village. It's still one of my favorite museums. The engineering building that I worked in, and the experimental garage where I spent a great deal of time, were within walking distance to the museum. There were many times I would walk from my office to the museum for lunch. It had a nice cafeteria and was a great place to go to relax.

There's not a city in the nation that doesn't have it's nice areas and bad areas. Detroit is no different. Just stay out of the bad areas. The people I met, worked with, and worked for, are some of the best I've known. Detroit proper may or may not make it back to it's former glory, but the metro area (the suburbs) still thrive.
 

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I have lived in the burbs of Detroit all my life and it's a absolute shame what Detroit has turned into. They keep electing corrupt cronies year after year the they just killed the city. As my father said " they **** where they eat". I love my Red Wings but were done with Detroit. The sad part is it's people like me in the burbs that keep that city alive. Without our influx of cash they might as well doze the city to the ground.
 

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This is just the tip of the decay.
The beautiful huge train station has been stripped. When I was a child the black man that kept the wash room for tips always talked to me. He sold clippers a splash of your favorite after shave for a tip. My grand father was a rail road engineer back in 1900 and we always went by train.

Hundsons Deprtment Store was the largest store in the world when it was built. In the 50's everyone went down down by car or on the street car and would walk around down town to see the beautiful Christmans displays.

The theater you picture was so grand it matched the palaces of Europe. The first time I was in it was to see the News Real of Queen Elizabeths' Coronation.

The architecture in Detroit was so grand that it was called the little Pairs because it had world class architectures in its buildings and homes.

Michigan had such high taxes that in the late 60's there were bumper stickers saying "Will the last one leaving Michigan please turn off the lights."

When I was in grade school we had a screened in front porch and we could sleep on the porch and leave the doors unlocked. Nothing ever went missing or touched.

It is the people, culture and politics that have destroyed Detroit.

I served a Tool and Die apprentiship with GM. Back then you could walk out your door and have a job by noon and be working by 1 PM any time you wanted a job.

Detroit was croupt and always has had problems. Look up the Purple Gang on the web. It was the Jewish gang that ran boot leg form Canada which is due south of Detroit.

You will be shocked on the crime history. The word Getto was first used in Europe and it comes form the Jewish poor community. It has spread to other cultures over time.
On the day of the St Valantines day massacure shooting it was the purple gang that did the shooting. They all died a vilent death as other gangs moved in.

They even tore down the Ford Autitorium on the water front. I was an user there for years during high school. I got to see and hear all the concerts for free and I have seen many of the greats in my day. Just think I got paid $2 a night to hear it for free.

Old Black bottom NE of down down was a black ghetto. It was called the black bottom becasuse back in the 1830's the sewer went through there and it has a dark rich soil and was kind of a marsh land. All the blues and Jazz greats played there. I was too young to go but I read about it in the off beat papers. They tore it down in 1960. It is now a park and freeway.

I could write a book on detroit. My fathers room mate in collage was John Fetzer. He owned the Detroit tigers for years. Another one of my fathers friends went all over the world and was in charge of setting up the assembly lines. Other firneds were the head of the union, VP's of both Ford and GM.

I was married in a house in North Rosedale Park, near Southfield and Grandriver.

It is more than sad what has happened to Detroit and America.

I saw this photo on the web last year and my heart sank.
It is true you can never go home again. Not even in your dreams.

I will add one last foot note. My uncle was in the Union and they drove him around in a bullet proof car. They were fantastic years like the world will never see again.

Much simplier life.
 

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Lot of memories stirred up in this thread. I was born and raised in Detroit until the age of 10 when my Dad was offered a new job out of state. I grew up living in Fraser, Utica, and later Rochester before we left. I have so many memories from my time there in the 70's. My Dad went to Cass Tech and my Mom went to Fraser High. Weekend trips to Bob-lo island, the Zoo, or Greenfield Village were common. My Grandmother would take half days on Fridays from her job as a secretary at Chrysler to bring me downtown to Hudson's and lunch at Saunder's. So much history in that city, so many memories during my short time there. Tigers games, Lions training camp out at Oakland University, Red Wing games and dinner in the Olympia Room(I think that's what it was called). My Father worked for Michigan National Bank after graduating from Wayne State, my Grandfather worked as a manager for A+P Grocery at numerous locations around the city, My other Grandmother was a secretary at Fraser High, and my other Grandfather delivered parts for Chrysler. I remember all of my friends parents and most of my relatives either worked for one of the big 3 or worked for a supplier to the automakers.

While I have been gone just over 30 years, I have never felt more attached to a city, and I've lived in quite a few. I am proud to say that I am from Detroit, no matter how hard it has fallen...

And if you havent seen this:

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Great Pics.

Only time I go to the DET is for the Tigers, AutoRama, Dream Cruz, or Car show. just not were I feel safe. Then again Toledo is head down hill also.
 

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I'm bumping this to see if junk4dummies would care to share some more stories.
Being from Detroit, hearing stories of yesteryear are incredibly fascinating.

A story of my own;
A couple friends and I would ride our supermotos (type of motorcycle) down to Detroit and around the city. This was back in 2004-2006.
We would ride all throughout the city, around and into the Packard plant and into some very sketchy neighborhoods. The sights and experiences were remarkable, even among the ruins.
None of us were too concern about safety - although in hindsight we should have been - it was probably part adrenaline and another part of being young and a little reckless that removed the fear. There's a definite lawlessness about Detroit, which was the appeal.

I no longer live in Michigan, but from what my friends tell me they don't ride down there like we used to. Things became much, much worse after 2009-2010; at least in the areas we would ride, which were already threatening places.

It's truly depressing how far Detroit has fallen, but the city and Michigan in general, will always be close to my heart.
 

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Overblown, exaggerated in most cases. I have to travel into the city several times a week, granted there is decay, crime etc, but not as bad as some of you say it is, I mean really. "Don't go into the city day or night" I wonder what the GM, CompuServe and Quicken Loans employees say about the city? They have to go down there Every Day!
 

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Well ain't that a *****.

Did you ever go to the Supermoto races up at Waterford Hills? My son and I made trip down town ONCE. He was a little freaked out by all the ruins. I don't think he knew how bad the bad area's were. He had only been to Hockey games. I did get him to stop for Coney's !! Didn't help that we were on a pair of Ducati Hyper Motards. I don't think they had ever seen something so radical .
 

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Did you ever go to the Supermoto races up at Waterford Hills? My son and I made trip down town ONCE. He was a little freaked out by all the ruins. I don't think he knew how bad the bad area's were. He had only been to Hockey games. I did get him to stop for Coney's !! Didn't help that we were on a pair of Ducati Hyper Motards. I don't think they had ever seen something so radical .

I've been to Waterford Hills many of times, but never for a sumo event.
The same friends that I rode with were/are VW enthusiasts like myself and we'd go fun run our cars September.

Oh, you gotta get a Coney if you're downtown!
I miss Coneys - there's zero down here in NC.
"Coney what?"

I rode a DRZ at the time with all the usual modifications; for a lowly 400 it had some grunt.
My friends still ride KTMs.
The noise from a group of thumpers echoing off the buildings was pretty rad!
 

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I'm from syracuse, NY for about 10 years or so I go to Detroit for the Autorama. I usually spend a day driving around the urban decay. I love to go to the abandoned train station, it is my favorite building in Detroit, it's just breathtaking (and saddening).

What I find unusual is that because of the types of building materials and architecture many of the homes look newer even though they are abandoned? Here in the northeast we have lots of houses with cedar shakes and clapboards so if they are not maintained they look abandoned immediately. In Detroit it looks like entire neighborhoods just up and left (like love canal).

The other thing I find perplexing about Detroit is the saturation/density of commerce (both open and closed) it's hard for me to drive around a few city blocks and justify why there are nine transmission shops within that small area, or how several hot dog restaurants complete all within a couple blocks of each other? Those are just a couple examples, there were lots more. Just some perspective from an outsider who frequently visits :)
 
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