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The MILQ Barn

SHawkins87

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Hello all, I have been looking forward to sharing my project with you for a good while now. I have a bit of a story to tell and lots of photos that I will be posting in the days to come.

This project originally started a little over 20 years ago. My young bride and I had found the property that we wanted to build our home on and raise our future family. At the time there was no way we could afford to both purchase the property and build our dream home. We were anxious to stop wasting our money on rent but did not want to settle for building a home on the property that we would not be happy with long term.

We settled on a plan to build the garage with an apartment above it. We would live in the apartment while we paid off the property and saved money to build our dream home. Here is the front elevation of the original building that we designed.

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The land that we purchased is a small farm parcel in western Scott County, Kentucky. The building was designed with the idea that when we built our dream home in the future this building would look at home behind it and not look like any old garage with living quarters above it.

My wife and I designed this building ourselves. We also completed nearly all of the construction ourselves with the help of family and friends. The only items that were contracted out were the concrete, roof, and HVAC.

At the time we were in our very early twenties and our inexperience in some of the areas of construction would come back to bite us later. I wouldn't trade the experience for anything and would do it all again if I had the chance.

Twenty one years later we have that future family in the form of a nine year old daughter, an eleven year old son, and an eighteen year old cat. We lived in the apartment over the garage for nine years before we moved into that dream home we had been planning all that time.

We thought that we would rent the apartment out to generate some extra income. As luck would have it, we had a bad experience with our first renter. We decided then that maybe the rental business was not for us. We never made repairs to the apartment and just utilized the garage portion of the building.

The original building had started to show its age. Our material selections and inexperience in construction had accelerated the aging process. Something had to be done so we re-imagined the whole project.

Over the past year and a half we have stripped it, gutted it, and added onto it. We built a separate RV shed with full hook-ups for our camper and added a few other surprises you will see as we go along.

I hope you will find my story interesting and will follow along as I document our progress.

Scott
 
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SiGmA_X

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Definitely sounds interesting. Pictures would be awesome, as would info on the renovations! Thanks for sharing Scott!

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SHawkins87

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Please forgive the quality of some of the images of the original project. They were all taken with a film camera and have been stored in albums for years. I am scanning and touching them up as I go.

Looking back I wish we would have taken more photos along the way. You won't see too many action shots because we were the ones doing the majority of the work! A lot of days the only photos were before we got started working and if we happened to knock off before dark we would get some photos of the days progress.

The earliest photos I have are post pour concrete. We contracted that part out. It is a basic concrete footer below the frost line with an eight inch concrete stem wall. The floor is your basic four inch thick wire mesh reinforced slab with sawn in control joints.

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That is the previously mentioned lovely young bride with the broom. The concrete contractor did a nice job, especially on the floor finish. The floor has held up well through the years with no visible cracks to this day.

In this next image we have started the framing. We used 2x6 walls for the first floor. You can see the rear of my wife's truck in the photo. She was driving this 1980 3/4 Ton 4 speed Toyota when I met her. I knew she was my kind of girl from the start.

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The garage foot print is 30x40 feet. I didn't want to have posts to bang my car doors into so we went with floor trusses. The trusses are 24 inches high to span the distance with no supports in the middle.

The trusses were one of our better decisions. They were pretty heavy so I had to call in some help. My dad and I and a couple helpers managed to get them put into place.

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Here is the first floor all framed up and the decking down. It is so much fun seeing your plans take shape. I love doing this kind of stuff! All of that time spent watching Dean Johnson and Joann Liebeler on HomeTime is starting to pay off.

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In the spirit of full disclosure, I am going to cheat a little here. I don't have a vintage photo of the view from that second floor. I am going to insert a more recent photo that would show what I saw that day after completing the decking. The view hasn't changed much over the years other than a little landscaping at the end of the drive.

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I have lived in Kentucky all my life. It is a beautiful state with lots of different terrain and things to do and see. Around here we have lots of gently rolling farm land. A lot of horse farms, some cattle, sheep, corn, and an ever smaller number of tobacco farms.

I grew up on a farm and love animals, horses included. You can see in the photo that we have the best kinds of horses you can have. The neighbors horses! They are across the street where we can enjoy looking at them but have none of the issues surrounding the care of horses.

That's it for today. Tune in next time for the next installment of this old MILQ Barn.
 
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SHawkins87

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Now we are on to the second floor framing. We used 2x4s for the walls up here.

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Here you can see the gambrel roof starting to take shape.

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Setting the roof trusses was an adventure. It was very windy. It seems it is always pretty windy on this hill top. My wife and mother swear they were almost swept away by a gust of wind. My mom and dad came up to help and we finally did get them set into place. It was great to see the final scale of the building taking shape and really get to see the 2-D drawing come to life.

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You can see in the back of the truck our generator. Looking back we did almost everything the hard way on this project. We didn't put in a temporary electrical service we did it all with a 4000 watt generator. We didn't have any nail guns or any power tools really besides your basic circular saw and drill. We should have rented equipment to help with the floor and roof trusses as well. Somehow we managed to get it done no matter the job.

Below you can see that the roofing contractor has been at work. We had them sheet the roof with 1/2 inch plywood, put down the roofing felt, and later come back for the fiberglass shingle installation.

They moved pretty quickly and did a nice job. I am not a fan of heights and felt that this was definitely a job worth paying someone else to do. It is nearly 27 feet to the peek of the roof.

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Here we have started on the siding. We chose T-111 siding because we wanted to keep with the barn look theme. This was not one of our better choices. The look was great initially but the high maintenance material eventually lost out to time and the elements.

This is as high as I could go from my ladder. We rented scaffolding to get to the higher levels.

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We set up the scaffolding and I would line up a row of siding along the ground between the scaffolding and building. I then climbed the scaffolding and dropped a rope to my wife so she could tie it around the piece of siding. I could then hoist it up, nail it on, and drop the rope for the next one.

My father-in-law came up and helped get some paint on the building. We decided to go with a red and white color scheme. Almost all barns in our area are painted black with the occasional white barn around. I had all along been picturing a Fisher Price style barn like we all played with as kids. It has almost become a land mark in the area. A lot of people don't know our street but when you mention the house with the red barn everyone seems to know it.

You can see here I have been putting off the rest of the framing of the silo. The ground slopes away from the building on that side making work a little more difficult. It also makes it another four or five feet to fall for someone who doesn't like heights. :scared:

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Here is the back of the building taking shape. We have started work on the 10x10 deck.

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Turns out we mis-calculated and it should have been a 10x12 deck, oops. Notice here that the deck extends past the posts two feet. We definitely should have went with a better design for the supporting framework of the deck but it worked. It held up for the 20 years that it was in service.

You can see here the door to the living room in the apartment and my first set of stairs. I really like to start small and learn as I go. This set only had 18 steps lol. I cut all of those stringers myself with a cirular saw and hand saw. They turned out pretty good and I didn't waste a single 2x12, or at least there were no witnesses if I did.

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Those steps are really nice when you get a few inches of snow and freezing rain. I felt every one of them that first time I bounced down them on my behind. Maybe I should have put a landing in there somewhere to break the fall.

You can see here some of that snow. Also, the silo is starting to take shape.

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That's it for now. Hope you have enjoyed the story so far.
 

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I went through Kentucky not long ago. It is a great place. What a beautiful story. And a beautiful location. Thanks for showing it to us. By the way, what does MILQ stand for?
 

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great story/post.
this is something i had dreamed about doing too, but life had other plans for me.
can't wait to read more.
 
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I to am from the northern Ky area.I am in Kenton county as of now but we just purchased 8.5 acres in Grant county,We also have family in Scott county.
 
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SHawkins87

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Enjoyed the story so far absolutely, that is one awesome barn you got there sir :thumbup:
Love the Toyota pickup too, you still got it ?
Welcome to your new addiction ;) , welcome to GJ.
Please keep the pics coming !!

No unfortunately we do not have it anymore. It was a really good truck and served us well through the original build. We sold it to a local teenager with a newly minted drivers license. He was thrilled to have it. He kept it on the road for many years. We eventually lost track of it. I am not sure where it ended up.

We still have a Toyota truck but the current one is a little larger than that one. It is a 2008 Tundra Crew Max with the 5.7 V8.
 
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SHawkins87

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I went through Kentucky not long ago. It is a great place. What a beautiful story. And a beautiful location. Thanks for showing it to us. By the way, what does MILQ stand for?

What is a MILQ Barn?

You folks are impatient. Your getting ahead of me on the story! ;)

MILQ (pronounced as milk) is an acronym for Mother-In-Laws Quarters. Part of the focus of the rebuild was to return the apartment to better than original condition in order to get it back into the rental market to recover some of our investment.

My Mother-in-Law and her 13 year old great neice that she has custody of will be moving in shortly.
 
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SHawkins87

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Thanks to all of you for the interest and the positive comments on my story! This is the first time I have started a thread like this in any type of forum. It is a lot of fun seeing the view count increase and the responses from different parts of the world.

The kids think it is cool that I am writing a story on the internet. They have been setting goals for the view count each day and meeting them thanks to you.

I know I have enjoyed reading your threads as I have lurked here for the past couple of years. There are some great spaces on here and I have borrowed quite a few ideas and benefited from the information that you all have posted.

It is nice to see so many Kentuckians participating as well.

More of the story will be posted soon.
 
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