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In the meantime buy the wet/dry vac and enjoy the 9.0 battery



Been debating on this^

I had the dewalt battery power wet/dry vac. Used it maybe 20 times for the 8 months that I owned it. Being able to carry it around and not dealing with a cord was great, but it lacked power, specially for carpet clean up in a car, also it was pretty noisy and loud. YouTube review shows milwaukee having that power, but also being a battery hog. Now that I got some 9.0 batteries I might pull the trigger...just waiting on a deal.
 
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Been debating on this^

I had the dewalt battery power wet/dry vac. Used it maybe 20 times for the 8 months that I owned it. Being able to carry it around and not dealing with a cord was great, but it lacked power, specially for carpet clean up in a car, also it was pretty noisy and loud. YouTube review shows milwaukee having that power, but also being a battery hog. Now that I got some 9.0 batteries I might pull the trigger...just waiting on a deal.

The Milwaukee isn't THAT much more powerful in my opinion. It's noticeable, but not a night and day difference by any means. The Milwaukee is also louder and bulkier. It does do well at carpet clean up in a vehicle and in fact that's what I mostly use it for, but I found the Dewalt sufficient for that as well. The onboard storage and hose quality also disappointed me when I switched. Overall though, the extra power makes up for what I perceive to be shortcomings. I don't think the battery life is all that bad. I do a quick clean up in 2-3 cars a day, and a 5AH lasts my work week.
 

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What's nice too is the vac accepts standard accessories. I have one of those small brush attachmens that I use with mine alot. Helps getting some stuck on dirt and dust off..
 

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So RTR just said this 18v cordless inline die grinder along with an updated version of the metal cutting circular saw were coming for the North American market. Anybody else hear anything?

Looking around online it seems that the grinder tool has been sold across the pond for at least couple of years now. :headscrat




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That die grinder is pretty cool, another pneumatic tool I could get rid of. Is it 1/8 or 1/4 shank, or something else?

I need to know whats up with the Milwaukee Miter Stand, the current one might be in process of discontinuing, oversees they sell one that is like the Bosch gravity rise but perhaps also in process of discontinuing... I would like a Milwaukee for the M18 Fuel Miter, but might wait or go with another brand. The Kobalt one with wheels looks nice and only $129 normal price, Hitachi has a gravity rise one on sale at Lowes for $149, but I really want a matching Milwaukee stand...

So RTR just said this 18v cordless inline die grinder along with an updated version of the metal cutting circular saw were coming for the North American market. Anybody else hear anything?

Looking around online it seems that the grinder tool has been sold across the pond for at least couple of years now. :headscrat

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I need to know whats up with the Milwaukee Miter Stand, the current one might be in process of discontinuing, oversees they sell one that is like the Bosch gravity rise but perhaps also in process of discontinuing... I would like a Milwaukee for the M18 Fuel Miter, but might wait or go with another brand. The Kobalt one with wheels looks nice and only $129 normal price, Hitachi has a gravity rise one on sale at Lowes for $149, but I really want a matching Milwaukee stand...



The Rigid one with the bigger wheels is great. I too wish I had a matching Milwaukee one.
 

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I'm pretty sure that grinder has a 1/4" collet.

This is one of the tools I asked for in their survey they put out a few months ago, except I requested that it'd be a Fuel model. I really wish they'd follow through with that. I think "constant run" tools like this benefit greatly from a brushless motor.

Oh well. It'd probably be too bulky of a tool with a good battery on it anyway. Plus...I've been eyeing this compact VS Metabo (120VAC) die grinder for some time now...like angle grinders, probably something that's just better left corded [emoji33]
 

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This one? $200 for a Rigid stand?!?!? Its made by TTI? Whats the best sale price seen?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-Mobile-Miter-Saw-Stand-with-Mounting-Braces-AC9946/206992161

The smaller wheel one looks a lot like the Milwaukee sold across the pond.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-M...PIPHorizontal1_rr-_-206992161-_-202673168-_-N

http://www.powertools-direct.com/PBSCProduct.asp?ItmID=11957948

The Rigid one with the bigger wheels is great. I too wish I had a matching Milwaukee one.

The Ridgid one is great. I use it for my 12". I think we all agree that Milwaukee needs to release a matching one.


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I'm pretty sure that grinder has a 1/4" collet.

This is one of the tools I asked for in their survey they put out a few months ago, except I requested that it'd be a Fuel model. I really wish they'd follow through with that. I think "constant run" tools like this benefit greatly from a brushless motor.

Oh well. It'd probably be too bulky of a tool with a good battery on it anyway. Plus...I've been eyeing this compact VS Metabo (120VAC) die grinder for some time now...like angle grinders, probably something that's just better left corded [emoji33]


Dunno how good it will work out though Bosch and Makita both have versions in 18V

When I was looking around I seen that AC Delco has 12volt models :headscrat both RA and straight. Have two sized collets also. I didn't take the time to look them over yet but I did also see that the TIA tool fools reviewed them way back in 2013

http://www.acdelco-tools.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=63_60&product_id=143

I love to have decent cordless 1/4" one I have been cleaning up some old weld work on a couple vise restos I'm into and been using a basic cheapie corded rotary tool kit recently bought. Is a pita with the cord but I just couldn't really justify plunking down the cash for a new Milwaukee 12v cordless unit. Though if I could find one for $40 or so bare tool new or even recon I probably buy it :dunno:
 
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I have the new 0882-20 M18 Compact Vacuum arriving tomorrow. One of the many uses I'm planning for it include using it like a cordless Dyson floor vac as our whole house is ceramic tile. Plus the ability to just take it anywhere in the house or garage without dealing with bulk or cords is exciting.

This will be my 12th M18/M12 tool and if it's as awesome as I'm hoping, it will probably become my most used. I'll be sure to post up some 1st impressions for everyone in a few days.

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Bought the M18 multi tool yesterday at HD. Decided to sell my Craftsman C3 one and will need a replacement. Wish they had a brushless version but oh well....
 

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The small wheeled one is the old model slowly being replaced with the big wheel model. The last two years it was $99 for Black Friday.


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I have the new 0882-20 M18 Compact Vacuum arriving tomorrow. One of the many uses I'm planning for it include using it like a cordless Dyson floor vac as our whole house is ceramic tile. Plus the ability to just take it anywhere in the house or garage without dealing with bulk or cords is exciting.

This will be my 12th M18/M12 tool and if it's as awesome as I'm hoping, it will probably become my most used. I'll be sure to post up some 1st impressions for everyone in a few days.

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At least your willing to get yours dirty :bounce:

And a lot of us have been waiting to know! :D

I really like a good honest user opinion, especially will it pick up something like small/stone gravel pieces or a 3/4"woodchips. The M12 unit has left some of us and me included lacking. I still have mine and use it often for sawdust cleanup around my miter or table saw. It is ok for fine stuff like that but really not much else. PTR just released a review today on that new M18 but personally I didn't glean much from it. Made comparison to the M18 wet dry cordless vac and really nothing much about the M12 version.

IMO was kind of like "if you cant say nothing good don't say nothing at all" :lol_hitti

https://www.protoolreviews.com/tools/power/cordless/vacuums/milwaukee-m18-compact-vacuum/28040/
 

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So RTR just said this 18v cordless inline die grinder along with an updated version of the metal cutting circular saw were coming for the North American market. Anybody else hear anything?

Looking around online it seems that the grinder tool has been sold across the pond for at least couple of years now. :headscrat




HD18SG-31-800-11.jpg

Upon seeing the picture of the M18 die grinder I was "come to poppa, I'll take two to start with. But then reading it was in Europe for two years, if true chars my toast big time, what are we chopped liver in the US?

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Needs some help. I am having issue securing a diablo blade onto the Milwaukee sawzall. The $1 diablo blade does not seems to lock in place. Good thing I pull on it to test before actually use it. Anyone having same issue or maybe I just don't know what I am doing?
 
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Upon seeing the picture of the M18 die grinder I was "come to poppa, I'll take two to start with. But then reading it was in Europe for two years, if true chars my toast big time, what are we chopped liver in the US?



TheGrooveking



It's definitely been in Europe for a few years...I almost bought one off eBay.uk a year and a half ago. It was too much money (like well over $300 USD) and not brushless.

An electric die grinder can be a tool that's put through a lot of stress. Like the angle grinder, it should be Fuel-ifed.
 

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Man, I really wish they made a brushless M18 jigsaw. One with a light. Wouldn't even have to be Fuel per se...maybe like the compact BL drill/impact. It's rare that I work with wood, but when I do it's usually things that require a jig saw...and corded tools that don't need to be corded are so annoying!
 
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Yeah and if its 2 speed wtf, needs to be more variable than that.

Upon seeing the picture of the M18 die grinder I was "come to poppa, I'll take two to start with. But then reading it was in Europe for two years, if true chars my toast big time, what are we chopped liver in the US?

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Man, I really wish they made a brushless M18 jigsaw. One with a light. Wouldn't even have to be Fuel per se...maybe like the compact BL drill/impact. It's rare that I work with wood, but when I do it's usually things that require a jig saw...and corded tools that don't need to be corded are so annoying!
I've had the M12 jigsaw for 2 years now. It's always handled any job I've used it for. The only other jigsaw I've ever used to compare it to was an old Black&Decker corded one of my dad's.

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I can't even remember the last time I used jigsaw and I have a monster VS corded Craftsman scroll saw in my tool box. Obviously its not real detail work but I like use the M12 hackzall upside down as makeshift jig saw when I need to do notch cut outs in flooring and such :D
 

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Needs some help. I am having issue securing a diablo blade onto the Milwaukee sawzall. The $1 diablo blade does not seems to lock in place. Good thing I pull on it to test before actually use it. Anyone having same issue or maybe I just don't know what I am doing?

Dunno did you try a different blade?

I have Diablos along with a bunch of other different makes and lengths of blades from Chinese imports to Lenox. They all work in my hackzall just fine. Are you turning the collar enough before you insert the blade?
 

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Not the big daddy 2763-20 but AvE tears down a 1/2" M18 impact.
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ev7--VXfD_Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

What do you guys think? My first guess would be a cracked brush(es) since it seems like tapping the back end sometimes gets it working.
 
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Dunno did you try a different blade?

I have Diablos along with a bunch of other different makes and lengths of blades from Chinese imports to Lenox. They all work in my hackzall just fine. Are you turning the collar enough before you insert the blade?

I did not know I can turn the collar. I shined a light into the collar opening and noticed the pin does not extend all the way through the opening so the pin will never lock into the blade pin hole. Don't know if this mean it is broken from factory.
 

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Needs some help. I am having issue securing a diablo blade onto the Milwaukee sawzall. The $1 diablo blade does not seems to lock in place. Good thing I pull on it to test before actually use it. Anyone having same issue or maybe I just don't know what I am doing?

I have a Milwaukee corded sawzall that always gave me problems with the blades getting stuck if they weren't Milwaukee blades. I like the Diablo blades but they don't seem to work with my sawzall. It's probably the tool that I use the least so it's not such a big deal.
 

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Its on many of our lists, I would not settle for a brushless, Fuel or nothing.

Man, I really wish they made a brushless M18 jigsaw. One with a light. Wouldn't even have to be Fuel per se...maybe like the compact BL drill/impact. It's rare that I work with wood, but when I do it's usually things that require a jig saw...and corded tools that don't need to be corded are so annoying!

We have heard positive and negative reviews of both the M12 and M18, why many of use are waiting for a Fuel one that might be bad a$$.

I've had the M12 jigsaw for 2 years now. It's always handled any job I've used it for. The only other jigsaw I've ever used to compare it to was an old Black&Decker corded one of my dad's.

I rarely use one also, but still would like a Milwaukee cordless. I have a bad *** Bosch corded one I have never needed and just obtained a older heavy duty Bosch one I might keep and sell the new nice one I have. Though I am hoping the next time I need something like a jigsaw that I can break out the Fuel M18 deep bandsaw and use that instead :drool:

I can't even remember the last time I used jigsaw and I have a monster VS corded Craftsman scroll saw in my tool box. Obviously its not real detail work but I like use the M12 hackzall upside down as makeshift jig saw when I need to do notch cut outs in flooring and such :D
 

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I had the dewalt battery power wet/dry vac. Used it maybe 20 times for the 8 months that I owned it. Being able to carry it around and not dealing with a cord was great, but it lacked power, specially for carpet clean up in a car, also it was pretty noisy and loud. YouTube review shows milwaukee having that power, but also being a battery hog. Now that I got some 9.0 batteries I might pull the trigger...just waiting on a deal.

What's nice too is the vac accepts standard accessories. I have one of those small brush attachmens that I use with mine alot. Helps getting some stuck on dirt and dust off..

At least your willing to get yours dirty :bounce:
And a lot of us have been waiting to know! :D

Ok fella's just did a test. I hate you guys for pressuring me into the test and getting the new M18 dyson like vac dirty because I now regret buying it!

Test summary - Cleaned the filter on the M18 wet/dry vac, lets say it was 90% efficient. Used a XC 4.0 on both vacs. Performed various test on my carpeted basement stairwell which was disgusting.

I used the new M18 vac first, it seemed to be doing the job but was not blown away with its performance. Fired up the trusty wet/dry one and it was noticeably better. Sure its a lot louder but who cares, vacs are suppose to be loud and reducing the sound almost always results in less power. There was a stuck lint ball on the carpet, 4 hits with the new one and it was still there, 2 hits with the wet/dry and it was sucked up.

So the new one comes with lots of attachments which was a selling point for me. But whenever any attachment is on the unit nozzle or the hose nozzle, with moderate force they pop off WTF. Oh BTW KC mentioned its a standard size, WRONG. The hose end of the wet dry vac has accepted any standard vac attachment I have put on it. The new vac is a DIFFERENT SIZE!

The attachments for the wet dry vac do not fit on the new model. The attachments for the new model are too big for the hose end on the wet dry vac. I have no idea what size it is but if anyone knows Shark vacs they have a special size and its not even that.

EDIT - Now I am pissed. Took a attachment from my Kenmore house vac, fits wet/dry, does not fit new vac. Grabbed the caliper; wet/dry vac attachment ID 32mm nozzle 31mm, new vac attachment ID 33mm nozzle 32mm. BTW Shark vac attachment ID is 35mm.

The new model is for the ladies and the wet dry vac is for the guys.

IMHO dont bother with the new one and just get the wet dry vac. I would of been better off keeping the M12 and not getting the new M18 one. At least the M12 had I think the standard size nozzle...
 
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The brush I use on my m18 wet/dry vac I think came from Hd or lowes as one of the small shop vac attachments.. I have a Miele vacuum that I had to buy another brush for cause it was an odd size. eBay solved that for a cheap aftermarket.. seems kinda dumb they wouldn't make the tools for each model fit each other..

Question, does the hose kit for the new m18 attach the same way as the wet dry model? Or is that different also? Does it use that twist lock design or it is it just held on by friction?
 

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Yes I can not imagine why within their vac lineup the size is not the same for all models.

The nozzle on the new vac is angled like a crevice tool even though it comes with a crevice attachment, the hose that it comes with it slides over and is not twist lock.

I feel that the new vac was not designed in house and was designed/manufactured outside of the red houses.

The brush I use on my m18 wet/dry vac I think came from Hd or lowes as one of the small shop vac attachments.. I have a Miele vacuum that I had to buy another brush for cause it was an odd size. eBay solved that for a cheap aftermarket.. seems kinda dumb they wouldn't make the tools for each model fit each other..

Question, does the hose kit for the new m18 attach the same way as the wet dry model? Or is that different also? Does it use that twist lock design or it is it just held on by friction?
 

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Not the big daddy 2763-20 but AvE tears down a 1/2" M18 impact.
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ev7--VXfD_Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

What do you guys think? My first guess would be a cracked brush(es) since it seems like tapping the back end sometimes gets it working.



I'm pretty sure he came to that conclusion in the video...haha
 

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If I remember correctly, home depot does, or did sell multiple sizes of shop vac accessories, along with the ruducers to swap them onto different sized vac hoses.. don't ask me my, but at some point I bought the one or two smaller sized wand extensions and the different tools to fit on each one for my full sized shop vac.. Im pretty sure the brush I'm using is from that purchase I made..

As far as household vacuums, I have a Shark, Kirby, Miele, and the handheld Orek version they sold with their upright models. Pretty sure they all use different attachment sizes.. close in sizes, but not the same..

32mm is just about the same size as 1.25". This is likely the brush I'm using on my m18 wet/dry vac.
http://m.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-1-1...ombo-for-RIDGID-Wet-Dry-Vacs-VT1412/100638352

1.25" is a standard size for smaller shop vac hoses as far as I know.. the small Dewalt is also advertised as having a 1.25" hose, along with the Milwaukee m18 wet dry vac that's advertised as being able to be used with standard sized accessories..
 
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A while back one of the online distributors did a video on the new 0882 and posted it FB.

I had to laugh they dumped a box of popcorn and then cleaned it up using the new vac. When I called them out on that and said POPCORN all they could say was that was what we had available. All I could think was yea great...minivan cleanup. :D

I really don't understand why their falling so short of the mark. These cordless handheld designs should be great for quick cleanup before completing a job like the last few strips flooring or prepping for a baseboard install etc. or maybe cleanup after some little wiring job picking up those small wire cuts and strips etc. especially anyplace where you cant really work a push broom easy like around workbench. Sad they cant really pick up much and its not just from the limitations of the tube/hose diameter either.
 

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Upon seeing the picture of the M18 die grinder I was "come to poppa, I'll take two to start with. But then reading it was in Europe for two years, if true chars my toast big time, what are we chopped liver in the US?

TheGrooveking

Are you kidding? Yes we are. EU has had this in both 18 and 28V for a long time. M28 5.0's too and an M28 jigsaw.

Strouty and I got our hands on the M28 die grinder long ago. I definitely find it convenient but it's HUGE so not good for tight quarters or extended use. I had to open the collets up to 1/4" also but that turned out to be super easy.

I know GrooveKing has been here awhile but it's crazy how much turnover this board has. All these new guys don't know what's gone on and Strouty seems pretty absent these days.

Incidentally, the M28 grinder is the same as the M28 grinder :D Die and 4.5" that is! The only difference is the die gets 2 speeds.

SEE THIS: (it gets more on-topic the further you go - see post 26 fo sho) http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=285569
 
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