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I noticed several members in here like the Fuel M12. Is there a reason to opt for those over the 18 volt variety? Is it more of a budget thing, compact thing, or something else?

I'm considering the non-fuel M18 compact combo set. Is it a good value? The only extra tool I'd plan to add is the impact wrench.

For most I think it's compactness and light weight.

But if those are the only tools you're considering I think M18 is actually more compact, although not necessarily easier to fit into a tight space and certainly not lighter.

Off the top of my head I think the M18 Fuel impact driver is 1/2" to 3/4" shorter than the M12 Fuel impact driver.

I'm not sure about the regular M18 or M18 brushless (non-Fuel) impact driver.

The 3/8" impact wrench is actually a bit shorter in M18 than M12.

Not sure about drill length in the different voltages.
 
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I noticed several members in here like the Fuel M12. Is there a reason to opt for those over the 18 volt variety? Is it more of a budget thing, compact thing, or something else?

I'm considering the non-fuel M18 compact combo set. Is it a good value? The only extra tool I'd plan to add is the impact wrench.

For me, personally, its more of a weight thing. The weight to power ratio in the M12 Fuel stuff is crazy. I just did a bathroom remodel and used M12 stuff almost exclusively. The only time I had to pull out my 18V battery was for the oscillating multitool because I dont have an M12 version.

Quite impressive what the M12 stuff can do. I do have a ton of M18 Fuel stuff too, just because :)
 

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I'm a big fan of the M12 stuff too. I mean, breaking out the M18 2763 has it's place.. but for most things I can get away with a little M12 fuel impact and it works just fine and is incredibly light. Battery life on both M12 and M18 are just crazy to me, so that's not something I really consider an issue for either line
 

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Thanks. I like the M12 line-up but lack of 1/2" or high torque impact wrench kills it for me. I'm thinking of regular M18 and buying the fuel tools as needed. That is, I'm considering the compact kit, which is non-fuel, but also the mid torque impact wrench (2860-22). You can mix/match the batteries, correct?
 

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Thanks. I like the M12 line-up but lack of 1/2" or high torque impact wrench kills it for me. I'm thinking of regular M18 and buying the fuel tools as needed. That is, I'm considering the compact kit, which is non-fuel, but also the mid torque impact wrench (2860-22). You can mix/match the batteries, correct?

You most likely will want the 2861-22. The 2860 is pin detent (physically press in the detent to release socket).

I agree that the m12 fuel impact is my goto 80% of the time. Personally I think the fuel is worth the extra money, brushless is the way to go for longevity.
 

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I noticed several members in here like the Fuel M12. Is there a reason to opt for those over the 18 volt variety? Is it more of a budget thing, compact thing, or something else?

For me it's a compact thing.

I work in a hospital out of a Snap On tool cart that I wheel around to where it's needed. We also do a lot of work at our off site locations. I'm constantly grabbing a bag and taking the necessary tools with me so fitting the smaller tools helps with space.

At this point I have a lot of M12 and M18 stuff. If they make a Fuel version I always get that over the regular. In most cases it's not that much more expensive but the performance is worth every penny IMO.

I mainly use the M18 out of my tool box and the M12 out of my tool bags. Both lines are fantastic and the M12 will easily do the majority of the work that I would need it for. Having a really compact 1/2" hammer drill in a tiny package is pretty awesome.

You can mix/match the batteries, correct?

Yup. Any M12 tool will take any M12 battery and any M18 tool will take any M18 battery.
 

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For me, personally, its more of a weight thing. The weight to power ratio in the M12 Fuel stuff is crazy. I just did a bathroom remodel and used M12 stuff almost exclusively. The only time I had to pull out my 18V battery was for the oscillating multitool because I dont have an M12 version.

Quite impressive what the M12 stuff can do. I do have a ton of M18 Fuel stuff too, just because :)

Exactly. I've got lots of tools and batteries in both lines but M12's weight causes it to get used more often. M18 has it's place for sure and it gets used, but M12's weight causes it to get used more.
 

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The M12 Fuel Hackzall has come in surprisingly handy as well. When you dont really need the power and destruction of the M18 Fuel sawzall. Make sure to get the FUEL version, though....the brushed version doesnt get great reviews.
 

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Maybe I'm late to the party but I saw this on Milwaukee website today.


This has been around for quite some time now but hasn't garnered much attention because it's a)significantly more $ than 5.0 and b)18650 cells. You're better off getting 5.0 for cheap or 9.0 for less thermal protection mode.
 

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Anyone know the best way to buy the 1/4 ratchet? Kit or bare..

depends on if you need an additional charger or battery.

the little M12 bluetooth widget is a perfect example. 2592-21 (includes 2.0 M12 battery and M12 only charger) is everywhere for 79$. 2592-20 (bare "tool") is everywhere for 69$ (although HD seems to have them on sale for 59$ right now). now, that means you can get an additional charger and 2.0AH battery for 10$ (20$ at HD).

if you are swimming in batteries (and if you are, you are likely swimming in chargers, too), you would likely rather have the extra money. if you are not, 10$ for the battery (or even 20$) is a great deal.

while the M12 only charger is not that valuable a thing, having one to live in the house to charge the M12 vacuum i bought for dog hair is a worthwhile thing if it appears for free.

there is the issue. batteries are likely cheaper when bought with tools. the issue is when you end up with another charger, although i have noticed tools sometimes available with just a battery, but i am not sure if that i a milwaukee thing, or a store thing.
 

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depends on if you need an additional charger or battery. there is the issue. batteries are likely cheaper when bought with tools. the issue is when you end up with another charger, although i have noticed tools sometimes available with just a battery, but i am not sure if that i a milwaukee thing, or a store thing.

A while back Milwaukee ran what I thought was a good deal, get a free 2.0 battery offer with the purchase of a M12 Fuel bare tool. At that time the bare tools were each like $50 less than the -22 kit option. So I bought 3 different tools that way, getting one extra battery for each and passing up on a second battery, along with the charger and another hard case each time.

I seldom have a need or want for any more chargers and storage boxes :D

Just as an FYI the -21 ratchet kit comes in a decent soft sided zippered nylon storage case that holds everything and can easily store in a tool box drawer.
 

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depends on if you need an additional charger or battery.

the little M12 bluetooth widget is a perfect example. 2592-21 (includes 2.0 M12 battery and M12 only charger) is everywhere for 79$. 2592-20 (bare "tool") is everywhere for 69$ (although HD seems to have them on sale for 59$ right now). now, that means you can get an additional charger and 2.0AH battery for 10$ (20$ at HD).

if you are swimming in batteries (and if you are, you are likely swimming in chargers, too), you would likely rather have the extra money. if you are not, 10$ for the battery (or even 20$) is a great deal.

while the M12 only charger is not that valuable a thing, having one to live in the house to charge the M12 vacuum i bought for dog hair is a worthwhile thing if it appears for free.

there is the issue. batteries are likely cheaper when bought with tools. the issue is when you end up with another charger, although i have noticed tools sometimes available with just a battery, but i am not sure if that i a milwaukee thing, or a store thing.

I don't see the 1/4" any less than $99? I don't have lots of batteries yet.
 
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For all you guys with the M18 wet/dry vac, I STRONGLY suggest you guys pick up an accessory kit like this one for that vac..

http://www.cpooutlets.com/shop-vac-...jwLa8DrFnAoNVwMK5FDmLpSBRAGLLcWkIkaAlNC8P8HAQ

With a piece of electrical tape placed inside one of the wands, I was able to make my small Orek wands fit the vac, and the Milwaukee accessories I have still work on them, along with the Orek floor head.. you guys have no idea what you're missing..

It's like a whole new vacuum now.. just finished placing the M18 on cobweb duty on the basement rafters
 
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For all you guys with the M18 wet/dry vac, I STRONGLY suggest you guys pick up an accessory kit like this one for that vac..

http://www.cpooutlets.com/shop-vac-...jwLa8DrFnAoNVwMK5FDmLpSBRAGLLcWkIkaAlNC8P8HAQ

With a piece of electrical tape placed inside one of the wands, I was able to make my small Orek wands fit the vac, and the Milwaukee accessories I have still work on them, along with the Orek floor head.. you guys have no idea what you're missing..

It's like a whole new vacuum now.. just finished placing the M18 on cobweb duty on the basement rafters

Do you mind sharing some pics of your setup with the attached accessory?
 

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Does anyone own the Milwaukee transfer pump? If so, how do you like it? It's main duty would be to **** off the water that accumulates on our pool cover.

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2771-20

I recently purchased the pump (it was delivered a couple of weeks ago) I think it was with the 17% off sale from ACME but haven't really had any opportunity to put it to good use yet at least outdoors anyways being mid winter here and generally been below freezing too. Plus all the garden hoses are out in the storage shed and the water bib off yada yada yada :D

Though my first impression is its a surprisingly compact unit.

l'll bet it would work great for your use.


I might get motivated enough to try it out in my laundry tub sink yet. :scared:

I still would have to round up some parts though, I do have one short piece female thread 1/2" hose with a female end I use on my boiler drain here in the house but I'll need to locate another. The male end is around somewhere maybe out in my camper. I also have a double female brass fitting somewhere too.

My main plans are to use the pump for remote water transfer away from any electric source for horticulture use. The volume specs say 480 gal/hr. 240 gal using 5.0XC so I figure up to 30minutes at 8 gal/min. That would be plenty good enough for me. Specs 75' head so I am far more curious about the discharge at 100ft under my anticipated conditions. The hoses I have been using with my gas pump are only 5/8 ID max. but we do have full 3/4" hoses down at the greenhouses.

See my pump use review below
 
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I've been meaning to ask Milwaukee if the pump would be ok w windshield washer fluid. I don't know if the little alcohol content would be a problem.

We recently had a volunteer fill the radiator overflow w washer fluid (true overflow, not a degas bottle). I'm just leaving it as it doesn't REALLY matter but if I had the pump I woulda just pumped it out. The overflow is buried under a cowl and I'm not willing to invest the time in actually removing it to dump it.
 

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Just read a CPO email for the 2797-22 Gen 1 Fuel at $229 now. That's like up to $70 cheaper than list price on new non fuel brushless 2799 CX package. A bit more drill torque, more features like 3 speeds on the impact driver, accessory side handle and two XC 4.0 batteries instead of just one XC and one compact.

http://www.cpooutlets.com/milwaukee...0&spJobID=980052671&spReportId=OTgwMDUyNjcxS0

I saw that first thing this morning too. Now w the 27xx tools being out for awhile the 26xx tools are "so yesterday."
 

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I've been meaning to ask Milwaukee if the pump would be ok w windshield washer fluid. I don't know if the little alcohol content would be a problem.

We recently had a volunteer fill the radiator overflow w washer fluid (true overflow, not a degas bottle). I'm just leaving it as it doesn't REALLY matter but if I had the pump I woulda just pumped it out. The overflow is buried under a cowl and I'm not willing to invest the time in actually removing it to dump it.

I'm sure it would be fine.. if anything as a precaution maybe just flush it out with some water. The idiots on tools in action did a demo using it with coolant, and noted that Milwaukee doesn't endorse using the pump on anything other than water.. as long as you don't use it with fuel I'd think you'd be OK. I don't own it, but I wouldn't hesitate using it on anything non flamiible. If u ask Milwaukee, more than likely you will get a standard response of using it for water only.
 

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I saw that first thing this morning too. Now w the 27xx tools being out for awhile the 26xx tools are "so yesterday."

Yeah but at least with the 26xx hammer drill, you can replace the chuck with something much better.

Not sure there is a replacement for a wobbly 27xx chuck
 

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I've been meaning to ask Milwaukee if the pump would be ok w windshield washer fluid. I don't know if the little alcohol content would be a problem.

I'm sure it would be fine.. if anything as a precaution maybe just flush it out with some water. The idiots on tools in action did a demo using it with coolant, and noted that Milwaukee doesn't endorse using the pump on anything other than water.. as long as you don't use it with fuel I'd think you'd be OK.


Right...it is just recommended for water clear water at that even specifies no pond or creek water :D, laundry soaps or other caustics, water over 140F and of course flammable liquids.

The impeller housing is easily serviceable 4 screws and they list a gasket/blade replacement kit in the manual. Milwaukee 49-16-2771.

I just googled it but couldn't find it online though, Then it also says if anything besides clear water is pumped flush for 30 seconds.

Personally I wouldn't be afraid of pumping some glycols or washer fluid.

Sand or solid pickup is the real b*tch though. My big Pacer gas pump inadvertently sucked some sand up from creek bottom one time and the clearances in the impeller housing were so tight it actually locked it up and I couldn't turn the engine over with the pull cord the next time I went to use it. I had to take the pump housing apart and once it was clean again started right back up. Tough pump, another time it got caught in flash flood on the river bank ended up under 5 ft of water :wtf:. Had to drain the oil and take the carb off the tank to get all the water out after that day.
 

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Does anyone own the Milwaukee transfer pump? If so, how do you like it? It's main duty would be to **** off the water that accumulates on our pool cover.

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2771-20



So I just run the pump. 50ft of output garden hose and about 6 ft of pickup line. 5.0 Ah battery Nice brass hose fittings on the pump. Moved water at a good volume very quick took about 15 secs to fill 2 gal container. Easily had good suction. Ran about 8 min playing around there with it. Battery showed 3 lights when I first stopped but after I picked up everything and put it all away when I removed the battery it was back to showing 4 bars again. :bounce:

Manual does point out a maximum 1hr continuous use something to be aware of. Being that small understandable, anyhow should do what I need well within those parameters.
 

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Man, the addiction is real. At least I get all of my Milwaukee stuff with a discount, or that's my excuse anyway. Haha. $130 for the radio and $50 for the battery. Radio sounds great in a enclosed space, like a house or a shed, gets a little muffled outside, but I'll imagine that'll be almost any radio. Over all I'm pretty pleased with it, don't think it's worth the full retail price, but the price I got it at, it's perfect. 7b7b51758bf568e418e0b79369e97277.jpg

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$130 for the radio and $50 for the battery. Radio sounds great in a enclosed space, like a house or a shed, gets a little muffled outside, but I'll imagine that'll be almost any radio. Over all I'm pretty pleased with it, don't think it's worth the full retail price, but the price I got it at, it's perfect. 7b7b51758bf568e418e0b79369e97277.jpg

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I am pretty impress by the Bluetooth range. The sound quality is ok. Good highs, ok mids, no lows. Sounds the same as the M18 jobsite radio (2890-20) I would have return it for the $179-$200 price tag . And I agree at $130 +- it's a keeper.
 

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Well that is unimpressive to say the least

A few days I inquired to ACME C.S. to see if as Milwaukee Tool distributor they could make both the 31-01-1586 hang bar for the 2361-20 floodlight and the protective boot for the 27xx compact impact wrenches readily available, and someone from their C.S team promptly responded back to me and that they would inquire further with Milwaukee about both items and would follow up with the Milwaukee response.

Anyhow this was just forwarded


Thank you for your patience as we waited for a response from Milwaukee.

Milwaukee said that the 9.0 AH battery should fit in the floodlight, but if you're unable to get it to fit, they ask that you send a picture. From there, our rep would be able to investigate further.

:headscrat

As for the boot covers, there are not any for the wrenches yet, but the new Mid-Torque impacts will have them available. I brought it to the attention of Milwaukee so they are aware people are looking for boot covers on all of their wrenches. They stated that, in the future, they will try to provide the covers for all impact wrenches.

:wtf:
 

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Last weekend I helped demo the whole first floor in my sister's new (to her) house.

I drained 2 fully charged 9.0s to 1 bar between my 1" Fuel rotary hammer and Fuel Sawzall. The RH totally de-tile'd an entire wall in a bathroom and the Sawzall was all over the place really (cutting old nail infested studs/counter tops/pipes/etc.) since it's so handy for all things demo. The RH had a brand new scraper bit and the Sawzall had a brand new Milwaukee 9" carbide blade. Both tools were complimented with the M18 fan and the M18 HP flood light.

All I can say is wow...these tools are no joke. I've used them before (obviously...they're mine!) but I was abusing them here. Performed absolutely flawlessly.

To those who question whether or not a 9.0 is worth it for the power hungry tools...it absolutely is IMO. The power and run time REALLY shine when you need it and want it. Very very noticeable. I wouldn't trade them for more 5.0s that's for sure...
 

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Just read a CPO email for the 2797-22 Gen 1 Fuel at $229 now. That's like up to $70 cheaper than list price on new non fuel brushless 2799 CX package. A bit more drill torque, more features like 3 speeds on the impact driver, accessory side handle and two XC 4.0 batteries instead of just one XC and one compact.

http://www.cpooutlets.com/milwaukee...0&spJobID=980052671&spReportId=OTgwMDUyNjcxS0

If you look on Ebay, CPO is selling them there for $199 with free shipping.
 

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Milwaukee said that the 9.0 AH battery should fit in the floodlight, but if you're unable to get it to fit, they ask that you send a picture. From there, our rep would be able to investigate further.

Around the time that the 9.0 battery was released Milwaukee updated the flood light with a different hang bar that would allow the 9.0 battery to fit. The model number of the light stayed the same.

Based on the response that you got it sounds like Milwaukee is willing to cover the replacement hang bar. I didn't mind paying $2.10 for mine.
 
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